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What NO ONE Knows About Pelican Cases 

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@andre-le-bone-aparte
@andre-le-bone-aparte Год назад
Would have been cheaper to just give this guy a new case... instead of having people see this video. 🤷‍♂
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor Год назад
For real!
@pandabear631
@pandabear631 Год назад
Yep
@samarianosans
@samarianosans 11 месяцев назад
Totally
@insulttainjury
@insulttainjury 10 месяцев назад
Yes
@aygwytes7736
@aygwytes7736 10 месяцев назад
yep. this vid just cost Pelican a sale.
@funpolice8128
@funpolice8128 7 месяцев назад
Owned Pelican for many years and use their EMS case in my patrol car for emergencies. Never had an issue. Have some Nanuk cases for home and vehicle first aid kits. Love em. Looking to buy another couple small cases for random shit but reason I’m gonna choose Pelican again is for the pick and pluck foam. That stuff is amazing for getting things just right. Just found out about an outfit here in Texas that is making cases for less but it’s hard to go with another and have to deal with cutting foam. Pelican has the lock on that it seems.
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 6 месяцев назад
Yeah Pelican has great foam - the Apache cases from Harbor Freight have good pick and pluck too, but the Pelican foam is a little better.
@imyourmutter
@imyourmutter 2 года назад
Lifetime warranty against breakage, unless damaged. Talk about going back on a word. That's disappointing.
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 2 года назад
Yeah, really misleading. It’s unfortunate that more people don’t know how shady the warranty is.
@joefelan1
@joefelan1 6 месяцев назад
Thanks! About to purchase some cases and found your video. No Pelican for me now.
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 6 месяцев назад
The warranty is a bummer for sure.
@Bulldog75stp
@Bulldog75stp 4 месяца назад
Nanuk has now entered chat...
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 4 месяца назад
😂😂
@Goearthtour
@Goearthtour 6 месяцев назад
Maybe not the airline fault. Maybe your fault for forgetting to open the airlock and it exploded at high altitude.
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 6 месяцев назад
Was unlocked, but even then the luggage compartments now are largely pressurized.
@JK-tu1xx
@JK-tu1xx Год назад
Well then... Guess I'm going with a Nanuk case afterall.
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor Год назад
I wonder if their warranty is better?
@JK-tu1xx
@JK-tu1xx Год назад
@@RiggsTaylor After further evaluation the Nanuk warranty is nearly identical to the Pelican warranty in its coverage against defects and breakage. I did find a company by the name of condition 1 that's very reputable and has a very solid warranty guideline as well.
@Photodiver7
@Photodiver7 Год назад
First, let me thank you for making this video. I have been a Pelican fan boy for probably 20 plus years. I have a [lot] of Pelican cases and have never had any issues with any of them. There are three main reasons why I am a Pelican fan boy. The first reason is they are made in America. The second reason is I have found them extremely durable and the third reason [was] the warranty. I have never had to use the warranty, but I am now really skeptical about it. Your case cracked and I would really like to know more about their reasoning for not covering it. As far as I am concerned their material failed. They market the cases as protective cases, which means to me it [protects]. It can't protect if it is broken. Again, thank you for making the video and informing us. We are now at least aware that if our cases break they made not be covered.
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor Год назад
Yeah, I really hope that my experience isn’t the norm, but I haven’t heard otherwise. I have other Pelican cases that I will continue to use, but I’ll have a hard time buying another 🤷🏻‍♂️
@christophers.8553
@christophers.8553 6 месяцев назад
Pelican has changed. I was a major fanboy as well and I am willing to pay more for USA made gear. I have at least 16 pelican cases that I own and I have purchased a lot more for work. Last time I had a failure I was shocked at their response. I hope you never have a case break.
@theoldluddite
@theoldluddite Год назад
Thanks for this information, I so far have a couple of pelican cases as I was willing to pay very high premium price for what I thought was the best warrenty available. I shall not be wasting my money again, will now be buying cheaper alternatives that suit my requirements just as well.
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor Год назад
Happy to help inform!
@kidcompany
@kidcompany Год назад
I was debating which box to buy, but knowing that Pelican does not property cover their warranty for basic breakage, I will just buy harbor freight and buy their warranty - which does cover breakage. Plus save a few bucks.
@headshotpros888
@headshotpros888 10 месяцев назад
I have like 8? pelican cases. It really sucks that they did you wrong! They deserve for this video to be made, with every detail you pointed out so well. You were not negligent!
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 10 месяцев назад
Thank you!
@peachypound6108
@peachypound6108 Год назад
Thanks for making this Video. I experienced something similar. Basically, my case was dropped. “ it was dropped”. As they are made specifically for this type of unfortunate handling. They’re suppose to be durable. Pelican sent me an email claiming that the product in question was “ misused”. I now use “ MEIJIA”.
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor Год назад
Sorry to hear that - such a weird runaround. Cases are cheap for them to make in the volume that they do, so you would think that they'd at least offer some help/compensation. I'll check those cases out!
@MikeVideos327
@MikeVideos327 8 месяцев назад
Skb is american made and lifetime warranty. Im trying out a few of their large cases
@r10vw
@r10vw Год назад
Thanks for this info on Pelican! The warranty is why I was looking at getting one. Im glad I came across this video! Ill just go to Harbor Freight and save a boat load and just know that the warranty is junk. At least I'll know what Im buying then.
@oarnold2900
@oarnold2900 Год назад
Looking at your picture of the damage (about 2:14), I am not totally convinced this isn't a manufacturing defect. The plastic may not have cured properly and failed under load. If this was not a manufacturing defect, I would expect impact damage on the top, or opposite corner. Or some kind of deformation on the opposite side. It does not appear to have been dropped on this corner. Based on your description and the limited information gleaned from the photo, I lean toward material failure.
@rangersmith4652
@rangersmith4652 7 месяцев назад
If it is a compression (squeezing) failure, it would probably not show any impact damage. So, yes, it could be a material failure and probably is. But as long as Pelican has its "user's fault" disclaimer, it will almost always win such cases (pun intentional) because the burden of proof is on the claimant.
@jaysax90
@jaysax90 2 года назад
Maaaaaaan. What total jive. Good on your for calling these jokers out. I was looking to buy one of these for a tour in Australia back in May...glad I held off. Thanks for the info!
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 2 года назад
Happy to help! I have yet to see if the alternatives (Gator Cases, SKB, etc.) have a better warranty, but I can’t imagine they are any worse.
@declicked
@declicked 2 года назад
fantastic video, thank you for making it. I'm a filmmaker and have been in the market for a pelican for a while now and this answered a lot of the questions that I've had. Thank for your digging and information!
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 2 года назад
Happy to help! Feel free to share- not a lot of people know about this unfortunately.
@rangersmith4652
@rangersmith4652 7 месяцев назад
One way of looking at this: Pelican, like all companies, will always try to protect itself from warranty claims and will word its warranty language accordingly. Another way of looking at it: Your Pelican case did its job and now needs replacing, like when your motorcycle helmet takes a whack. It's only good for one whack. I have only one Pelican case, a 1400 that I got for free (no, I didn't steal it). All my other hard shell cases are Apache (Harbor Freight), and I'm about to place an order for one or more of the Amazon brands. Pelicans are overpriced and under-warrantied. The other brands provide essentially equivalent protection, so why pay more than double?
@i.t.577
@i.t.577 2 года назад
I was about to buy one earlier today, up until I saw your video. Ughh! This is indeed misleading AND dishonest from them; very dishonest. I've been wanting a Pelican so badly for so long now; but I guess I'll just go with the $100 version from their competitors at HF.
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 2 года назад
While the Pelican is the better made case, it is tough to justify knowing that they won’t stand behind it. Also worth looking into SKB, Gator Cases, and Seahorse cases as well! Not sure about the warranty with those, but they aren’t as expensive either.
@jamjew
@jamjew Год назад
Another case of we dont give a shit anymore about you once we have your money .Thank for making the video because i just like a whole bunch of other ppl have bought their cases on the premise that these thing are virtually unbreakable and if that was to ever happen, they would honour their warranty apparently thats not the case .Completely dick move on Pelicans part .
@gary4645
@gary4645 Год назад
Maybe it's Nanuk time. Never had to warranty one but I have Pelican cases and have started ordering Nanuk. I am a photographer and videographer never had a problem but have heard other stories about Pelican and their get out of warranty free warranty clause. Glad to see you make this video and tell the truth.
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor Год назад
Good for you! Need to look at Nanuk.
@Huynhimages
@Huynhimages 5 месяцев назад
This video has 28,131 views until now. Imagine 1% of that number is 281 people includes Pelican customers or potential customers. They stop buying Pelican cases. Let's say Pelican make profit 30% for each $300 case 281 * $90 = $25,290 So, instead of give this guy another $300 case, they lost $25,290. A very smart move 😂.
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 5 месяцев назад
I mean, I’m saying 😂 I made it clear I can easily buy another case. They just didn’t even try to make it right.
@MechanicalMasterz
@MechanicalMasterz 3 месяца назад
Wow. Total dishonest and shady. Everyone ban and quit purchasing Pelican. Buy Nanuk. Way better company. Way better made. Way better prices.
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 3 месяца назад
Yeah it was sketchy for sure. Heard great things about Nanuk!
@seanlowkey9388
@seanlowkey9388 5 месяцев назад
End of the day, their product failed. And then they failed you as a customer. American made product companies should stand behind their products not cower behind a clause in their warranty, which i add is open to their own interpretation. If the airline threw the box from 20ft high they should be held responsible for the damage as its gross negligence. Pelican should tell their customers, it’s not indestructible and the product will fail eventually. Bare minimum $50 deductible one time replacement standard, with purchase of case to original owner, non-transferable with proof of purchase, bump the msrp +$15 and chalk the extra units up to project yield loss.
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 5 месяцев назад
Yeah, it’s wild that they didn’t try to help at all. That was my biggest red flag.
@jimgottlieb7367
@jimgottlieb7367 4 месяца назад
It appears that there might be surface damage on the case, but it is not clear if it pre-existed before the fracture or is the result of the initiating event. If you believe that it occurred simultaneously with the main fracture then it is clearly the responsibility of the airline. Nothing is indestructible; and I understand Pelican's position if this is what happened. Having said that, if the case was not damaged prior to the flight, and the case exploded due to a malfunction of the depressurization valve then it is Pelican's fault. My opinion only. Good luck.
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 4 месяца назад
Valid points! All damage was sustained because of this event.
@wallacekelley9179
@wallacekelley9179 Год назад
Thanks for the video, this has convinced me to buy a different brand case for less money.
@carw76
@carw76 2 года назад
Was just about to purchase a couple of them for me and my team deploying to an African UN mission. But after this review we’re back to the drawing board. Thanks 🙏
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 2 года назад
Sorry to hear that! Check out SKB, Gator, Seahorse, and other similar cases.
@ev-ezaye3580
@ev-ezaye3580 Год назад
Oh buoy! @carw76 can tell you're stressed already!
@Urbaneism
@Urbaneism Год назад
You still bought it. Stop lying 😂
@minhhoang326
@minhhoang326 2 года назад
Thank you for the video. I was planning on buying one of these cases until I saw your video. Wish Yeti made these types of cases. They stand behind their products. I bought a 5 gallon bucket from Yeti to carrier all my paddle board equipment and fishing gear. The bottom of the bucket crack, just sitting in my garage over the winter in FIorida. I sent them pictures and they sent me a new bucket after returning the broken one. Pelican should lower their prices if they don't plan on standing behind their inferior warranty and product.
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 2 года назад
Glad to help! I have another pelican case that I’ll use until it fails, but definitely disheartening.
@snusmumriken232
@snusmumriken232 2 года назад
I get what you’re saying but the two companies are not comparable. Yeti is a venture capital-backed company founded in the era of Silicon Valley startups and their cash. This gives them a crazy artificial financial runway to burn through warranty refunds. Yeti also does not own their own manufacturing facilities, they contract that out to USA and Chinese factories. Pelican meanwhile was founded 50 years ago and is more traditional. They own their manufacturing facilities for their primary products. Pelican was also recently acquired by private equity but I doubt they want to become a publicly traded company. All of these factors matter when you consider their approach to warranty policy.
@cryptocandyland3699
@cryptocandyland3699 4 месяца назад
The whole point of paying a premium is the warranty. There are cases like the Harbor Freight Apache 5800 that offer the same protection for a fraction of the price. Wont be buying Pelican again.
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 4 месяца назад
Agreed. Have a couple of the Apache cases and they’re solid for the money!
@prepperchannel
@prepperchannel 5 месяцев назад
Pelican needs to do better. I almost bought 3 Pelican cases tonight until I saw this. I would pay premium prices for subpar customer service.
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 5 месяцев назад
Kind of a bummer for sure!
@jen3800
@jen3800 2 года назад
i'll never buy a Pelican again. Scumbags. They should at least give you a tube of KY Jelly
@krsnab7718
@krsnab7718 Год назад
I was unsure abiut getting a Pelican case and now I am definitely not. Not because of the quality what so ever but just this crap corporate way of doing dodgy business. Many thanks for your video.
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor Год назад
Happy to help inform. I think they make solid cases, but this was shady for sure.
@evergold9054
@evergold9054 7 месяцев назад
@pelican not gonna chime in on this? Doing research now and this completely turned me off from pelican.
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 7 месяцев назад
Nope - they didn’t care that the video was posted when I sent it to them and let them know 🤷🏻‍♂️
@idiotburns
@idiotburns Год назад
8:56 still concerning
@nickcollins4268
@nickcollins4268 4 месяца назад
Thanks brother, won't be buying any pelican products 🤙 customer service 👎
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 4 месяца назад
Happy to inform! Yeah, they disappointed me with this one.
@Mad_Alyx
@Mad_Alyx 9 месяцев назад
Well guess I’ll go with a different company.
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 9 месяцев назад
Unfortunately I will as well.
@rogerw1942
@rogerw1942 9 месяцев назад
I used to think they were a GREAT company. Just going to buy Harbor Freight from now.
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 9 месяцев назад
Been impressed by them for the money!
@mjlopez6286
@mjlopez6286 2 года назад
Awesome Video was about to buy a Pelican Case... Banning that brand from my shopping List thanks so Much! They can keep there Dishonesty .
@kms3530
@kms3530 Год назад
Waaaaaw peli, really? Some cases are 700 usd. I was peli al the why but a reevaluating my choice now
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor Год назад
Yeah, it’s crazy. You’d think they would stand behind their product more, but not in my case.
@Richifornia
@Richifornia Год назад
weird i literally got a response in like 20 minutes and they sent me a new one no questions asked
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor Год назад
Dang! That’s amazing - good for you!
@andruestafford
@andruestafford 8 месяцев назад
Everyone. Always read the warranty before you call. That way, you know the appropriate mode of failure to discuss with them and can better describe the way in which the case has failed and should be covered. I can all but guarantee you would have gotten a replacement if you had just told them the material failed and fractured during normal use. I highly doubt they would have asked any questions at all. Its just a matter of modulating your description of what happened to better fit an acceptable failure mode. If you believe the case failed in normal use. Don't try to blame yourself or give them an out. Tell them the material failed due to a manufacturing defect as it is the truth. The defect being the inability of the material to maintain its integrity during normal use.
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 8 месяцев назад
That’s a good point! I had hoped they would’ve operated with more integrity, but here we are
@andruestafford
@andruestafford 8 месяцев назад
@@RiggsTaylor It's rare to find companies that do these days. You've just got to learn to play the game now. Also you can try again with the warranty unless they took your social or something lol
@harryniedecken5321
@harryniedecken5321 11 месяцев назад
Thank you for the video. I build products from similar cases ( different brand) so am fairly familiar with them in general. I have no affiliation with pelican. Let's for fun pretend instead that we are taking about a car and the warranty says that they will fix the car if the parts are defective or if it breaks. Now someone else runs into your car and dents it,. Is that part of the car warranty? Obviously no. IMHO, this is the same situation. Sorry that is how I see it. As a practical matter though, it gets very cold in an aircraft baggage area. Pelican cases are made from i think polypropylene, so not really cold resistant. What you want is a case made from ABS plastic like some of the underwater kinetics. ABS is intrinsically cold resistant and is used inside of refrigerators.
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 10 месяцев назад
Interesting! Like I outline above, and in their responses to me via email, they didn’t even bring up a party at fault. Even if I had been the one to drop and damage it, the warranty still is worded in a misleading way. I can buy other cases so I’m not worried about them replacing it at this point, but I think many people have a misconception about what the warranty is and actually covers. I would be interested in any case alternatives you’d recommend!
@harryniedecken5321
@harryniedecken5321 10 месяцев назад
@@RiggsTaylor Thanks. I attempted to make a suggestion but it got censored for some reason. Just look in my original reply for the brand and family of cases. I have the beginning of a channel but it is very simplistic.
@grrod88
@grrod88 6 месяцев назад
Loop hole, claim warranty on a brand new case to get a new case because it meets criteria 😂
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 6 месяцев назад
That checks out I guess 😂
@Bacano115
@Bacano115 10 месяцев назад
I was about to drop 300+ on a Pelican case. Your video stopped that.
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 10 месяцев назад
Happy to help - I wish there were better alternatives. Pelican still dominates the space.
@brianturner7919
@brianturner7919 5 месяцев назад
Warranty issues a Pelican are not honored as the 'Lifetime Warranty' they push. Purchased the R40 Ruck and it came with the wrong Flexible Lid Organizer. Received the one for the R60. Sue at customer support emailed that I couldn't purchase the correct part. They didn't offer to replace it in any way. Pelican needs to experience the Bud Light losses for a couple of years. Contact anyone you even suspect might purchase a Pelican case. Let's set this company on the right track.
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 5 месяцев назад
Man, that’s crazy. Sorry that happened!
@dannythemedic
@dannythemedic Год назад
All warranty claims of any nature are barred if the product has been altered, damaged or in any way physically changed, or subjected to abuse, misuse, negligence or accident. Pelican Products, Inc. (“Pelican”) guarantees its injection molded products for a lifetime against breakage or defects in workmanship. So what is BREAKAGE? VS WHAT IS DAMAGE? breakage: the action of breaking something, or the fact of being broken. damage: physical harm caused to something in such a way as to impair its value, usefulness, or normal function. WHAT THE FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF ???????
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor Год назад
Wild huh 😂
@user-nh3gu1ge3d
@user-nh3gu1ge3d Год назад
You are absolutely right. What they SHOULD say if they are honest is "we DON'T cover breakage", because clearly, they do not. I mean, it's bad enough they charge you TWO HUNDRED dollars for a plastic box, you'd think they would love to keep repeat customers. How much can a little bit of plastic material really cost them anyway? Seems like they don't care about their rep or repeat business. I was looking at getting one so this is a shame to hear. While I'll still look at getting one, it may shift me to 2nd hand. Why pay top dollar if this is how they treat their customers?
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor Год назад
Totally agree. Buy secondhand or another brand.
@toffybenedicto8888
@toffybenedicto8888 3 месяца назад
Seems like Pelican sucks when it comes to warranty.
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 3 месяца назад
Seems like it
@jeramybearamy8539
@jeramybearamy8539 2 года назад
This bums me out. I was under the impression that Pelican was better than this. The warranty slogan is very misleading if this is the case. "we cover breakage unless it's damaged???" I know a lot of people in the industry who swear by Peli. Guess I'll have to re-think my stance on their product. Also, good on you for reppin' Bad Cat. I know John, but haven't talked to him since before lockdowns. A mutual friend (who wired the amps) told me he sold the company. I was surprised, to say the least. Anyway, has Pelican done anything to make things right? I have a couple larger cases, one for my mix kit and another for some video equipment. I spent the money on them because of the warranty.
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 2 года назад
Nope- radio silence. And yeah, love BadCat! Good to see John is still there even if he did sell.
@UKMike2009
@UKMike2009 Год назад
This stinks! I've never owned a branded Pelican but I've owned many of the Chinese clones and none have given any trouble and I have carefully checked the materials and engineering of every case I own. Pelican cases cost around double what I have paid, but if one had failed catastrophically like yours I would absolutely expect better treatment under a warranty. This bad PR will cost them far more than a replacement case.
@twsconsulting
@twsconsulting 9 месяцев назад
Buy pelican vault line instead. Less expensive less warranty.
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 9 месяцев назад
Good option!
@close2arwa
@close2arwa 2 месяца назад
I was going to buy one but not anymore thanks 👌🏻
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 2 месяца назад
Happy to help!
@edgell3
@edgell3 8 месяцев назад
I came the conclusion not to purchase Pelican Cases many years ago. I had purchased several long gun cases and decided to go back to my trusted dealer to purchase two particular cases in black. I was informed by the owner (dealer) that the area representative could only get the cases in green. I was not satisfied with green and demanded black. Long story short I ended up contact (via email) the VP of Marketing and sales to voice a complaint and desired action. I was assured that I would receive the two cases in black as I have requested, which after approximately one week I did receive. I was satisfied at that point. But this is not the end of the story. One of the employees and a personal friend in formed me what the area represents said upon delivery to the dealership. And I quote, “it would have been a cold day in He- , if it was left up to me.” Of course I filed another complaint with Pelican, with NO ACTION OR RESPONSE ! Due Pelican’s attitude toward me, lack of action on a Formal complaint and excessive cost I will never purchase a Pelican product. They are much like YETI…….
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 8 месяцев назад
Dang! That’s crazy.
@Work_Data_PV
@Work_Data_PV 2 месяца назад
i was actually looking to buy a new pelican case for the rave... but after this i have nothing to say about it other than bad.
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 2 месяца назад
Yeah, my experience definitely wasn’t great.
@Work_Data_PV
@Work_Data_PV 2 месяца назад
@@RiggsTaylor just say it! it was horrible! its more like a build up to the moment you need the brands reputation and they let you down that's an ultimate betrayal! otherwise what's the difference between premium brands and Chinese products?
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 2 месяца назад
@@Work_Data_PV totally valid - I was very disappointed, and you’re right.
@jeremiahdillard9201
@jeremiahdillard9201 9 месяцев назад
Pelican has always been good to me, but the case was clearly abused by the airline. The airline should be replacing your case. But also, think how your EQ would have faired if you didn't use the pelican case. For the cost of the case it shouldn't be ablative, but it is. It's job it to protect your stuff and that it did.
@Pterodactyl-kn3ve
@Pterodactyl-kn3ve Год назад
It’s very simple. They aren’t the company we thought they were. Too much competition to spend that much on Pelican to not have a warranty.
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor Год назад
Unfortunately, I think you’re right.
@ev-ezaye3580
@ev-ezaye3580 Год назад
"When this is obviously not the case".... had me laughing 🤣 😂 unintended pun... sorry about your experience. I hope the airport or airline took up the responsibility for damaging your baggage!
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor Год назад
Thankfully yes! Sorry for the pun 😅
@solidsnake2021
@solidsnake2021 2 года назад
I used pelican in the Army and unlike the ones you buy from them in the civilian market, they are WAY different. Insanely bulky and can be beat to hell and back. Not designed at all for civilian travel. Now that I am a civilian and the army no longer pays for it, I wanted to buy a pelican but instead bought their cheaper brand Vault because the only difference was the “lifetime warranty” which the same sized pelican named version was about 60% more in cost. I figured for 100$ bucks I’ll take the risk. So far so good, I just don’t slam it around like a disgruntled baggage handler or a gestapo tsa employee. I just want to say thank you for making this video cause now I know I wasn’t missing out on that “lifetime warranty” 🤣
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 2 года назад
Good point! Yeah, the Vault line seems to be the way to go if you can find a case with the same size/function. I’ll use my 1510 until it dies, but now I know not to expect that “lifetime warranty” to pan out.
@ev-ezaye3580
@ev-ezaye3580 Год назад
Ha! Disgruntled baggage handler - I'm sure it was this type that caused Riggs all this 'pain', more like emotional discomfort! And as for the Gestapo TSA folks, the least said 'bout their prying hands the better! They ought to have frequent training on what's what for their level of inquisitiveness!!!
@JYMBO
@JYMBO 3 месяца назад
Top 3 Pelican Alternatives = Nanuk, Evergreen & Apache (by Harbor Freight)
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 3 месяца назад
Need to check out Evergreen!
@MichaelNatrin
@MichaelNatrin 2 года назад
Thanks for the video. This is upsetting information, since I was about to buy Pelican solely because of the warranty.
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 2 года назад
Glad to help man- sorry to be the bearer of bad news. Still solid cases, just not a solid warranty.
@flashdaz05
@flashdaz05 2 года назад
First off, bummed to hear this. Sucks what’s happened to your case, and wonder if the airline picked up the tab? Devils advocate here: maybe look at it this way. In actual fact, the Pelican DID do its job in protecting your gear. Had the pedal board been in say, a regular soft suitcase instead, it probably would’ve got damaged beyond repair by whatever it was that that caused the crack. In a sense, the case took the hit. Now whilst I agree that the wording of the Warrantee is a bit misleading (to your point, that opening line probably makes most believe they’ll replace anything) I personally don’t think there should be a sort of ‘blank cheque’ for any damage to the cases. They’re plastic. They’re not unbreakable, nor do Pelican suggest so. Despite what people think, they’re not ‘bomb proof’; nor should they be expected to be. You can’t be sure what cased the breakage, and hence nor can Pelican. For all you know, baggage handlers might’ve dropped it off the truck, driven over it a few times, and thrown in back on the plane. They’ve become industry standard protective cases for a lot of different industries (I’m personally in the photography) because of how strong they are, particularly where yours broke. Which lends me to believe there was obviously some sort of mis-handling here, pushing the case beyond its limitations. Think of it as if they were a Helmet company. You come off your bike and crack the helmet. Your head is thankful for it, but now you have a helmet you can’t really use. Would you normally expect a helmet brand to cover that broken helmet under their warranty? Personally I’d like to see some sort of middle ground here, like… a trade in system where you ship the cracked case to them and they offer you a replacement for 50% off or something. A sort of consolation if you will. In my dealings with Pelican, they’ve been pretty good with replacing latches and parts for eg. But obviously they’re standing by the strength of their shells- in your case. Anyway, hope your situations been resolved. Hopefully I could’ve brought some ‘other side of the coin’ to this discussion. Hate to see so many other commenters being so flippant and ‘boycotting’ brands like this over these incidents. But I appreciate you opening up the discussion.
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 2 года назад
Hey man! Totally agree- I don’t think Pelican or a helmet manufacturer should be held liable for a broken case/helmet, EXCEPT that their warranty initially implied they would. That’s my issue- the misleading warranty. I appreciate the thoughtfulness of your comment and totally agree.
@ev-ezaye3580
@ev-ezaye3580 Год назад
Daryl's take makes for a very constructive argument which I totally agree with! No boycotting of brands because of those 'misinformed/misleading guarantees' a number of manufacturers/brands do it! And what Pelican stands by, they do stand by...
@martin_wood
@martin_wood 9 месяцев назад
That sucks! Yeah if they say lifetime warranty it should have covered that. It's not like you drilled in something else to compromise the case. I have a Nanuk now, but there are pros and cons to both for sure. Even while claiming the same size, I can fit more into the Pelican vs Nanuk due to more boxy profile. Nanuk has better designed accessories (lid organizer) and they are prompt to send a replacement no questions asked (zipper on my lid organizer)
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 9 месяцев назад
Thanks good to know! Yeah, unfortunately there isn’t much competition in the industry. I’d love to see someone new enter the game. Seems like the same old tech for the most part.
@nobleknightus
@nobleknightus 2 года назад
Good to know, I think maybe they are referring to 'broken' as in it not functioning and not as a result of damage or mishandling. So if the latch suddenly stopped working or the hinge came apart. It is as you say very misleading.
@jasonoliver8660
@jasonoliver8660 8 месяцев назад
I just went through this a week ago and again a couple years ago. Denied both times. I'm curious what conditions are actually supported
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 8 месяцев назад
I’ve had friends have latches replaced, but that’s all I can speak to.
@aviator_bryan
@aviator_bryan 9 месяцев назад
That sucks. Try Evergreen cases. I have a Seahorse 920 for my fractal rig and it's built very tough. Also USA made with lifetime warranty.
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 9 месяцев назад
Checked out seahorse before - they look solid! I’ll look into evergreen - haven’t heard of them before.
@basilbcf
@basilbcf 9 месяцев назад
I was about to buy a 550 case, but after hearing this, I've often out. After reading their "warranty" it seems like the only time it would be covered is if the case were to just spontaneously break while sitting on a shelf!
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 9 месяцев назад
Yeah, I can buy another case no problem - I’m just unsure what would be covered at this point 🤷🏻‍♂️
@7curiogeo
@7curiogeo Год назад
The warranty sounds worthless. So pelican now looks worthless, if it is damaged, by transport, through no fault of the owner. Actully there are better cases. As for warranty I dont know, but I would not count on their warranty. To bad this is how company's loose their name association with quality and customer service.
@ChristopherStandardTime
@ChristopherStandardTime 2 года назад
i don't travel with gear like you do, but i do plan to bring a guitar back to washington when i head home to Texas later this year. i was planning on using an SKB iSeries case, and i've got several of these things so i'm pretty familiar with them in at least a storage capacity. part of me does not expect the case to survive, but if the guitar does, the case has done its job. still, i love my cases. it's weird, but you obviously know what i'm talking about. you spend money on these things that protect your investment - they become part of your investment. it sucks when this stuff happens. might be worth reading skb's warranty and see if it's the same as pelican's. they've replaced minor things for me without a problem, though i've never had your depth of experience.
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 2 года назад
Good to know! I fly with Mono Cases for guitars, and they’ve been great even when checked, which happens a lot with regional/smaller flights. It’s just crazy to me that Harbor Freights cases are 1/3 of the price, and they’ll give you a new one if it breaks, but Pelican being the “premium” option won’t even give you the time of day.
@JimMorano
@JimMorano Месяц назад
I have had two cases so far replaced by Pelican. After emailing them and them reviewing the case they make you go through a small amount of things like drilling a hole and providing pics and writing your case number in metallic sharpie on the case. No problems at all. Customer service has been great. This has made me brand loyal. I own 15 cases from them and also use them for moving music gear. Sorry to hear you were treated like this. From my past experience Pelican have been nothing but great.
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor Месяц назад
I love hearing that! I’m glad you were treated well - I’m hoping my case is an anomaly and not the norm.
@Louise_D_Myers
@Louise_D_Myers 8 месяцев назад
Nanuk, go nanuk
@jowalderhaug575
@jowalderhaug575 23 дня назад
When I bought mine the warranty said: «The guarantee does not cover shark bite, bear attack and children under five.»
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 23 дня назад
😂😂
@kokifreedom3563
@kokifreedom3563 Год назад
If I can’t get them cheap 2nd hand, then I will no longer buy them new. Glad to have come across this video. Thank you.
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor Год назад
Second hand is a great option!
@willg6997
@willg6997 2 года назад
It's hard to argue no warranty coverage for misuse and abuse, BUT the accident reason is total bullshit in my opinion. Who amongst us doesn't drop something from time to time. I mean if the case cracks from falling one foot out of your car or anything, then according to the warranty, you're S.O.L. Yes your valuables may be not be damaged, and the case did protect them, but if you claim military grade this, military grade that, and have a lifetime warranty, then people expect a simple accident to be covered. Your product isn't worth it if you can't honor your "misleading" warranty. I can buy a lesser known, and cheaper product and still have my valuables protected.
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 2 года назад
Precisely
@gabriellelish1564
@gabriellelish1564 Год назад
Wow, this is really helpful thank you, unfortunately, I just bought 2 pelican air 1535 cases. I am so pissed, what a tricky warranty. I will not buy anymore! Thank you. Sorry about your case 😞
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor Год назад
Glad to help inform! They’re great cases, so hopefully you won’t have any issues. A shame about their warranty though.
@vinr6867
@vinr6867 10 месяцев назад
I had a Pelican cooler that broke at a corner, about a 1" hole. They didnt honor my warranty either.
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 10 месяцев назад
Very interesting!
@Nordic_Mechanic
@Nordic_Mechanic Год назад
polypropylene becomes brittle below 0°C. Perhaps they dropped it when it was frozen
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor Год назад
Maybe so - that’s about the coldest it would’ve been in April.
@KeramatZMode
@KeramatZMode Год назад
Then what's the point of Pelican if they sell their case at a premium..? I came across your video to look for some good cases, and I do use Pelican cases for transporting really expensive survey equipments hence understandably, Pelican is the golden standard of tough cases. But now this story is pretty concerning in regards to Pelican's "lifetime" warranty and its perceived quality of their product... why not just grab the alternative brand that worked as well for way cheaper and insure it instead? Thanks for sharing this to us.
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor Год назад
Happy to help inform!
@Work_Data_PV
@Work_Data_PV 2 месяца назад
just because you can afford it doesnt make it ok this is why consumers need to anker down on companies as no company (most) take your money as fast as they can but afterwards they kick back and not comply to you. so why pay them?
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 2 месяца назад
Exactly - why pay a premium if you’re going to have to buy another anyways?
@petrsvoboda3902
@petrsvoboda3902 24 дня назад
Thank you for the video. I will go fine a company that stands behind there word and work!
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 23 дня назад
Happy to help!
@alphaandomegaproductions5073
@alphaandomegaproductions5073 10 месяцев назад
I have a ton of Pelican cases and like you, pay the premium because of the quality and warranty. Hopefully the airline paid for your bag. I will think twice before purchasing another Pelican case and will now look at other brands.
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 10 месяцев назад
Yeah, you’d think they’d at least offer to help somehow as a show of good faith 🤷🏻‍♂️
@Samoftheiam
@Samoftheiam 9 месяцев назад
Hey bro, this is definitely influencing my choice to buy another pellican case. If the case breaks, then they should warranty it - that's what a warranty is. Companies that actually warranty their products, and stand behind them, get my business. If they say they warranty your case, then say they actually don't in the same document, then it's trash for the wastebin - basically a nothing document.
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 9 месяцев назад
You’re exactly right. Just dishonest really.
@mydogsnameisbob
@mydogsnameisbob 6 месяцев назад
I was also about to buy a large pelican for my photography gear, and like you assumed the warranty was one of the reasons they were so expensive, which is a trade-off I will make. Since they don't seem to honor their warranty, I will just go elsewhere, thanks for letting us know your experience. How disappointing.
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 6 месяцев назад
Yeah, they’re great cases but a bummer the warranty doesn’t seem to hold up.
@idiotburns
@idiotburns Год назад
There is no misuse for Pelican since they are designed as any use, they of all should know this!
@jimmie999999999
@jimmie999999999 6 месяцев назад
i will never buy one
@duck853
@duck853 Год назад
"breakage" means breakage without any further explanation. Seems like they fine printed their way out of their first sentence clause. I was about to "place in cart" their 1535TRVL. Not anymore.
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor Год назад
It sucks for sure. I get they need to make money and can’t fix everything, but still.
@Rambokid
@Rambokid 8 месяцев назад
one of the reason of buying original pelican is warranty, when they not warrant this there is no reason to pay 4 times what other cases cost. i have considered buying pelican but after this video i will never buy pelican as long as i can get a simmilar case for 1/4 cost and problaby better waranty. i have many offbrand cases they work great and have taken a beating without breaking.
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 8 месяцев назад
Yeah, they aren’t the only option anymore. Wish they’d have tried to help somehow.
@lentzintl
@lentzintl 4 месяца назад
Thanks! I was looking for cases and almost went with the Pelican because I thought the warranty would make the higher price worth it. Going with Nanuk!
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 4 месяца назад
I’ve heard great things about Nanuk!
@idiotburns
@idiotburns Год назад
lifetime, why say lifetime and breakage?
@giottolaudo7672
@giottolaudo7672 Год назад
That's ridiculous. I have to say though...it might be worth actually getting someone on the phone, if at all possible. Emails can be ignored, a person on the phone is another matter entirely. Maybe it wouldn't help, but I've had multiple occasions (with other companies) where emails didn't help, but a phone call resolved the problem asap. It's a PITA, but actual human interaction with voices and everything is often a lot more effective. The customer service rep is recorded, and if it's a company like pelican with a reputation to protect, they're highly motivated to help you if they can. Even just a discount or gift card for a replacement case or something might be an option, and it's better than "sorry, no joy, buzz off" which appears to be the gist of your email interactions with them. • Thanks for sharing your experience, man. (Oh, and if you don't want to bother with warranties that won't be honored anyway, Harbor Freight Apache cases are hugely cheaper than Pelican, but I've had nothing but excellent experiences with them. If you want, you can even get the 2 yr extended service and replacement plan thing, and renew it, but I've never bothered. Never broken one, either.
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor Год назад
Good thought! Yeah, I’ve got a couple of Apache cases for lighter duty stuff, but I’ve definitely considered them over pelican now.
@TheBerji
@TheBerji 2 года назад
I have never heard of Pelican not replacing a broken case. If this is the direction the company is turning, I do not see its competitive advantage. When they first started out, they were the first to make durable plastic cases. But now, with the market saturated with copy-cat case companies that sell very similar products, also made in the US, at a fraction of the cost, why would I bother going with pelican?
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 2 года назад
Yeah, it’s unfortunate, because they had the reputation (amongst the musicians/photographers/videographers I know) of having great customer service and support. Again, even though I think the airline is at fault, I don’t see an instance where I’d rely on their warranty.
@Mickcotton
@Mickcotton 9 месяцев назад
@@RiggsTaylormo
@davidh3049
@davidh3049 9 месяцев назад
Damn I feel even better about going with harbor freight apache. I hope the airline covers for the damage.
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 9 месяцев назад
Thanks! Those Apache are solid - I keep mics in one and tubes in another. Granted, I don’t fly those.
@joshchamblee819
@joshchamblee819 2 года назад
They would have replaced it if you were John Mayer. Maybe escalate it to get his attention lol. He was who I first heard about using pelican cases. Really sucks bro
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 2 года назад
Haha. Thanks man!
@austinc5103
@austinc5103 9 месяцев назад
While I love the Pelican case and own a couple of them. I mainly use SKB cases at my work. I fly out all the time for event production with about 20 cases. not only do they hold their structures well, but their parts support is top-notch. we had one case that had a huge dent and we requested SKB for a repair, and they sent us a brand-new one.
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 9 месяцев назад
That’s awesome! They’ve definitely been on my list to check out
@yourbuddykevin
@yourbuddykevin 9 месяцев назад
I used to love SKB, but I had one for my ES335 Guitar and it rusted inside the case. I contacted SKB and they didn't want to help me out at all saying it wasn't their problem.
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 9 месяцев назад
@@yourbuddykevin that’s weird. How long was it in the case?
@yourbuddykevin
@yourbuddykevin 9 месяцев назад
@@RiggsTaylor a few weeks. I had another 335 in the original case and didn’t rust. I have a ton of pelicans also but they haven’t failed me yet, sorry you’re experiencing a bad batch.
@MarcosRobertoDosSantosJF
@MarcosRobertoDosSantosJF 7 месяцев назад
My experience with SKB warranty was great. I had a bass case that sliped from my hands, hitting the ground and breaking the handler. It was my fault, so I contacted them to ask to buy a new handler to replace it (the bass and the rest of the case was fine). They told me that their warranty would cover the replacement (even when I told them it was my fault), and got one free of charge (and it was an international shipping, as I live in Brazil).
@R.J-Macready
@R.J-Macready Месяц назад
Not to be offensive or anything but strawberries are toxic to cats
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor Месяц назад
What 😂
@remka2000
@remka2000 Год назад
Good to know. Any alternatives maybe ? They tend to be the goto default cases for carrying video (my field) equipment, maybe someone is interested into doing some kind of documentary ?
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor Год назад
I know Gator and SKB make similar cases. The Apache line from Harbor Freight have been solid for me, and significantly less money. They don’t feel as sturdy, but I’ve also never had one break 🤷🏻‍♂️
@james6454
@james6454 Год назад
Guys, seriously the used pelican market is something special. Over 80% off most any case if you look hard enough for it.
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor Год назад
I’ve bought some that way, and that’s probably the only way I’ll buy them from now on.
@TimG2553
@TimG2553 Год назад
Wish I had seen this before as I just bought one for my photography gear based on its reputation and and warranty this is now very concerning
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor Год назад
They’re usually really tough, so it’s sad to see the warranty is sketchy.
@NMdesertracer
@NMdesertracer Год назад
Harbor Frieght for me!
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor Год назад
They get it done! Have a couple of those myself.
@gerardogarcia7336
@gerardogarcia7336 2 года назад
That sucks man. The way you explain the story it sounds like you told them you suspect the airline misused/abused the case and therefore Pelican is telling you that you should hold the airline accountable and not them. Just saying the way you laid it out it seems that way. I had a flashlight from like 2003 that I used in the Middle East while in the service and around 2019 or so I filed a claim because the light was no longer bright as it use to be. They replaced the flashlight. I haven’t had any issues with the cases, yet, but thanks for the video, something to consider.
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 2 года назад
I actually didn’t say anything about the airline, other than it was damaged while flying. They also didn’t even mention who the responsible party was, just said they wouldn’t cover it. But yes, something to think about before you spend big money on a case!
@Canoneosmiami
@Canoneosmiami 2 года назад
It’s sucks ,they’re scamming people !
@williammccarthy1052
@williammccarthy1052 9 месяцев назад
If you are ever in Florida i have a store where i sell pelican cases for 80 percent off
@RiggsTaylor
@RiggsTaylor 9 месяцев назад
Love that! I’m in Florida a couple times a year usually 🤙🏻
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