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College also doesn’t tell you that professors determine your GPA, it takes one ego professor to turn your 4.0 GPA to a 3.2 because they don’t give As and their grading is harsh
Crazy how true this is, or They choose the scale of something like a 95-100 to be an A instead of a 91-100 so it shifts the grading. Requires you to check the syllabus every time
true, all of my classes have scales without plus or minuses, except for my physics class. And I got an A- and now my GPA is a 3.99 and I am graduating in the spring. Good thing is GPA doesn't really matter.
bro literally last year felt like i had less than half a semester of learning, literally woulda flunked all finials if i hadn’t crunched, and i always get a/bs
My tip (as a STEM): Don't believe Rate my professor at a glance. First off, the only people who rate professors are the ones who failed the class or the ones who got 99s and breezed by...you get an absurd bias of hate + love for the person. Even if you see a 4.0 professor you can take them and end up hating them and failing. It is better to just ask people in your degree if they have taken a class and what professor to take. Typically they will be the average and you will get a better representation/opinion of the prof. Exception: There are like 100 raters and the rating is 4.0.. at that point just believe it
One thing I learned from Ratemyprofessor is to pay attention between the lines. It doesnt matter so much if the student loved or hated the professor but why. There are a bunch of review like "Shes the best, her powerpoints are useless but the tests are all based on the book and really easy" or "I fucking hate her, we take notes everyday and she never used the book" Both reviews basically gives you hints on what you should pay attention to and how the teachers teach or what they find important
As someone who just graduated, I think the BIGGEST tip Ludwig missed is to take advantage of all the free shit your school provides you. Grabbing the granola bar and the fruit on the table even if you’re not hungry at the time; making a cup of coffee rather than going to starbucks and even taking the corny school pride shirt/cups/ lanyards etc. that they’re handing out will save you so much more money than you’d think over time
I had never considered it before, but literally all of the friends I made in college I made through clubs (even the ones who had the same degree as me) I was in a Tabletop Game Club (mainly Magic and D&D) and a Pokemon club and a Smash club
It’s easy to just make friends with people in your classes, I’m too lazy for a club and do extra work for it lmao I’m already struggling to finish my essays as is
I’m getting a PhD and have taught several college classes, so I’ve been both student and professor and seen both sides. Can confirm Lud’s advice was really good! One unfortunate piece of insider info is that professors, particularly at big schools, are NOT hired to teach. Their focus is bringing in grant money through research. Most professors are kind and want to help you, but they just don’t have the time (especially if they have thousands of students a semester). Learning how to teach yourself is a useful skill both in college and beyond.
That said, it's still very important to attend classes. They are a way to make sure you learn something throughout the semester. If you trust your self-teaching abilities too much, you might start studying too late to have the desired grades. Attending classes is important!
In Australia my STEM degree (civil engineering) requires you to get a grade above 40% to pass each the course which is insanely low. My building are going to be a pile of rubble with grades that low
I'm old and finishing my Ph.D. this term, what I have learned in the last 7 years of higher education are 5 major things. 1. Grades do not matter too much, as long as you maintain a 3.0 average GPA most scholarships will float through and you will be okay. 2. High school is over, if you are attending school hours away at least from your hometown move on from most of those people from high school. It will save you tons of emotional distress, as well as Ludwig, put it perfectly that you can "become a new person". 100% valid 3. Grades are not 100% true to finding a career after university. Networking and becoming work assistants under your professors or just become generally on good paths with them help a metric ton. 4. If affording school is hard, then work for the school. Universities are always looking for work at the beginning term for different offices or positions on-campus. These jobs can help pay for your tuition in parts if not full. 5. Don't stress too much, go to a party, relax, and breathe. You will burn out if you only fill yourself with 4-5 organizations while not having some reliving factor. (My significant other did resident assistant, university ambassadors, sorority, marching band, honor program, and ACS for her STEM major while studying for her MCAT. Her junior year was filled with constant breakdowns and stress. The alleviator we found for her was fitness) Tip: Any class before 9am is a trap don't do it, unless you have to.
Everybody said college would be so much harder than high school but you can make your own schedule and be much more selective in the classes you take as long as they fall under your major... it's honestly easier in my opinion. Much more freedom
Fewer classes and more time is real goated for being able to just breeze by. don't know how bad 2nd and 3rd year are going to be though as a CSE major.
depends on what you find hard in school. and yeah i dont think theres a one size fit all advice but as long as you cross out your goal/s at whatever stage of your life you're in without losing your shit then its all good.
Holy shit, that last tip he gave was spot on and really resonated with me. I started dating this girl in senior year of high school, and decided to stick with her through at least a bit of college. We went to different colleges for the first three years of college, and I really limited myself in terms of living life because of it. Would've loved to date around a bit and learn the ins and outs of dating, and maybe do some shit that I would've liked to do on my own. In my junior year of college, she transferred to my college and midway through the year, I got into a car accident. Was in a coma for three weeks and rehab for 3 months afterwards, during which she would come visit me every week in the hospital. I was so extremely grateful for her being by my side all that time, and fell into love with her stronger than all the years in our relationship prior. However, she had already begun falling out of love with me, and we broke up 3 months after I was discharged from the hospital. For the entire year after the breakup, I was hopelessly lost and without direction because my life had been centered around her for the past few years. I had not joined a club on campus, so I didn't really have a group of people to turn to. I was part of a frat, but honestly it wasn't really my scene. I was super depressed and had lost the will to do anything at that point, and my memory and concentration were impaired after the car accident, so I also failed a few classes for the first time in my life. About a year after the breakup, I went to EDC 2019, and that was one of the most impactful events of my entire life. I discovered a new passion for life and an appreciation for its beauty, maybe because I went with some incredible friends. I saw Martin Garrix at EDC and decided then and there that I would love to be a DJ. Joined my school's DJ club the upcoming semester as a fifth year, and fell in love with the art. I don't believe I have lived my life with many regrets, but one regret I do have is not joining that club right when I entered college. DJing was fun, and the people in that club were spectacular. Now I have a new passion in life, and have pretty much completely moved on. I guess what I'm trying to say is that Ludwig's last tip about not falling in love with the first one is so spot on. Don't ever limit yourself like I did. Do things in college that you yourself would like to do, because you're never going to get those years back. Good luck to everyone going to college, and live your best lives!
Completely wholeheartedly agree. I had a falling out with my girlfriend a month before college and it was the best thing ever. Yes it fucking sucks, but I realized that it doesn't matter. We put so much pressure on our partners, but we really don't *have* to be tied to anyone till we're 25 or older or whatever. Live your lives, don't depend on anyone so early in life
I genuinely wrote down every piece of advice that he gave. No kidding here, some of his stuff did genuinely help (either by reinforcing what I already knew or by being a new piece of info). Absolutely loved the stream. Thank you so much for doing it, Lud!
This is pretty accurate I gotta admit. Literally only thing I’d add is to at least start off strong. Not sure about majority of colleges but often your GPA will sort of snowball. So it’s easier to keep it from going down than it is to bring it up.
15:15 this applies to Eng. majors from my personal experience, same with ratemyprofessor. Also, like ludwig said, take your non-major electives online and over the summer; which depending on your university you'll be taking summer classes whether you want to or not so might as well fill that time with easy classes and make normal term easier, this includes your english classes.
I didn't realize how much college cost until I started it. I was fine, but since I thought I should've lived on campus I was in debt, and got kicked out of living on campus last month. But now the school owes me more than I owe them (I think?) so they give me the money now. Also my friend a block away from the school said I could live with him, which I might do since it'll probably be cheaper. Also because I thought I'd be on campus until a month ago my schedule is FUCKED. Always be wary of the classes you're picking, and pick very very early. I only got one class on Wednesdays and Fridays, but because I still have to go there, it still waste a day's worth of money for travel.
You're really lucky then. I got into a similar situation where my state university requires you to live on campus, the tuition by itself was actually really reasonable, but the room and board is really expensive. I ended up just not being able to attend at all. I Couldn't attend from home because my state university is way far north of me (over 140 miles), so living on campus would literally be the only way to attend. For some reason they thought it would be a bright idea to construct the college in the middle of nowhere (probably a ploy to get extra money for room and board) because I live in the most populous area of my state, where you'd presume it'd make more logical and logistical sense to have the campus, but no, apparently not.
Everything Lud said is accurate!! I recommend going to office hours! Going to office hours to get the extra help you need AND build a professional relationship with the professors! You will definitely need a professor help once you graduate (like a character letter or reference letter for an internship you want to get in to. Or something else like future advice) I'm STEM, graduated with 3.0 😂 yeah math isn't easy.
Another thing to add here, going to office hours shows them that you are simply trying, which could earn you some points (brownie or maybe even score if you are lucky). If you mess up, the professor is going to be more likely to help someone who legit tried be someone who started the night before
@@emmaf5705 Yes!! Definitely!! Definitely earn some brownie points! I remember the time I was taking the hardest math course and I was literally failing, I had an F. I talked with my professor on what I need to do to be better and he was dead honest with me and told me that I have zero chance of passing his course. His words were harsh but then I realized it is motivating; got the motivation to work harder. Go to class, go to office hours, study more, ask questions in class, and bam! Ended up passing the course! Yeah so NEVER lose motivation even if the professor tells you that you will not pass his/her class.
yeah, if you can afford it, college is awesome. Even if you hated high school college is so much better. You get SO much more freedom and it's honestly just as hard if not easier due to said freedom
@@sdhjsjana72js I think that might depend person to person. Some people in school would blindly follow rules, wouldnt even read one page ahead if the teacher didnt tell them to and I think they will get fucked in college. I stopped listening to my teachers since I was 15 because following them gave me a lot of stress.
@@anshi5098 Exactly! And that’s such a terrible thing, School doesn’t prepare you for this all this freedom, all this time to manage, and so yes, a lot of people get fucked because of that.
Lud did the same thing I did in college make an easy schedule, pack on hours when you can and keep your fridays free. Minus like 3 classes college was a breeze for me. Only thing I didn’t do was clubs, and my social life was terrible for a while until I started talking to more people my last two years.
Me, a European, I pay 1800 euros for the entire course. Here, in Portugal, you choose the course and then everyone has the same classes and you can’t really choose the schedule in the first semester. And if you are a Portuguese after graduating college you emigrate to a better European country and that’s why Portugal is losing a lot of people.
I'm a college senior doing a B.S. in cell and molecular biology, haven't taken a step on campus yet, going for my first in person class monday, hopefully this info will help
I graduated from ASU back in 2014, and just gotta say so much of this hits home, especially the last part. Would love to talk more about this topic because my story is so similar, but I’ll leave it at the fact that I am a happy homeowner, biochem major downgraded from bioengineering for bad gpa, lucky enough to work in r&d locally closing in on those 6 figures!
All good advice, except your major absolutely matters. Lud even kinda admitted to it when he said f off to the STEM majors earning 6 figures. Remember that college is an investment and that most majors are bs and you won't actually make any more money by having them. Unless you're in STEM, accounting, pre-med, etc. Choose very wisely, else end up f-ed with student loans with low pay, financially crippling yourself.
I’m so sick of the “most majors are bs” thing. If you expect your career to be in gender studies, sure, you’re unlikely to find a job in that field. But a liberal arts degree is meant to make you versatile. I know English majors who make 100k a year easy. Classics majors are actually in high demand from government institutions like the CIA. Most schools just don’t give students the resources to find jobs that match their skill set, but they’re out there. But college in the US is still stupid expensive and I highly recommend people look into Asian/European countries for their education - they’re so much cheaper
I'm starting my last college semester this fall, so I can attest to all of these. Especially the ratemyprofessor part, that saved me a lot of headache with shitty teachers
I graduated college with a degree in physics and in astronomy and astrophysics. For STEM in particular, ALWAYS have a backup plan. Even if you will never actually drop out, it really helps with peace of mind during the really bad classes. I got through two semesters Honors Quantum Mechanics by reminding myself I could always go into wedding photography if I couldn't do it anymore.
@@wade3ed I'm at grad school for astronomy, I have a few friends who switched fields after graduation and are now in grad school/masters programs for those fields, and one friend who is now working in industry as an aerospace engineer. No matter what you'll be fine dude, good luck
I'm starting my 2nd year as a STEM major at a STEM university, I think all of this was really good advice including the parts you said didn't apply to stem majors. If you've already decided that you want to be a stem person then your exact major doesn't really matter all that much. You can basically always change it later, even several years in, with little to no consequences. My college doesn't have *as* many clubs, and while I've been looking I haven't really found any that I'm interested in, I'm hoping to find one this year to join. Finding friends is DEFINITELY very important, I would suggest making sure to join discords that people make for your classes/school and talking to people on there, and also doing events and stuff with people even if the event itself isn't very interesting. Most of my friends right now I know from going to a late-night religious hike in the first week of school that a couple people in my major wanted to go to to meet up. Normally that was the last thing I'd ever do but I did it just to meet new people and now I'm close friends with several of the people who went. Also for that last part in the video, I found my first girlfriend at college and so far we're going great and our 8 months is in a couple days, so I guess I'd have to disagree :)
this was actually so wholesome. i wish i had someone to tell me these things when i started college. i am extremely socially challenged so... i went through college without making any real friends. most ive made are fleeting ones, lasting only through the semester bc i had the same class as them. at the time, i didnt feel really lonely. im mostly by myself anyway like 95% of the time. i played games a lot on my freetime, the library is my home (not to study mind you, but to sleep. a lot.) if you are the type of introvert who can't make friends on their own and has to rely on extroverts 'adopting' you, well, you can't do that in college if you want to make friends. it hasn't happened to me at least. unlike highschool where you get to be with people consistently, your peers in college are extremely fleeting. unless you join an organization/club/etc. which you should *force* yourself to do tbh. it'll do you good, you just got to get past that initial reluctance. id say friends are what will make you through the tough parts of college. my problems, i had to deal with alone with no one to turn to lmao. at least with friends, you have that backbone support, like people to help you academically, even emotionally. i didnt get to enjoy college that much. sometimes i wish i could redo my choices lmao. it feels like ive wasted years of my life but it is what it is. at least i got a degree.
Never underestimate how important making friends is. I go to uni in Australia and when covid made us study at home I was completely isolated because I didn't didn't have strong friendships
I just finished my second STEM degree. The schedule advice is super helpful. Remember to start studying one month before exams, even if it's 1 hour a day at the start. Saves so much stress and time without cramming.
Yeah, learned that the hard way first year in Electromagnetic physics by failing the midterm. Studied my ass off the last week and a half and aced the final and passed with a B. So study early and often. Also its important to have checklist with all your assignments and their due dates so you can keep track of what you need to do.
damn that last piece of advice came in about... 4 years too late for me XD.. but otherwise very very solid advice, especially the one about making friends and making a memorable first impression.
I've been doing online college for a year now and for this upcoming semester, but I am so excited (and nervous!) to go to campus in the spring! I see and hear so many things about college that I can't help but get excited! Especially since I've been stuck in a small town school my entire life and never truly made friends there, but I'm hoping this big college will be an opportunity to branch out more. "New school, new me" and all that....ah! I can't wait!
this kinda makes me regret dropping out to purse my small business but at the same time made me see that everyone has their own paths no matter what. Thank you Ludwig :)
first day of ENG 101 my professor looked us dead in the eyes and said I legit don't care what you do, please cheat on my tests and make my life easier.. safe to say I got a 105 in the class
This was actually really good advice, I’m still in high school but my parents are pressuring me to think about which course I should take and what should I do. Thank you
Stanford Astrophysics graduate here. I have seen people drop out because their lives and mental health were fucked simply because their parents/financers grew more toxic. It isn't always, well, almost never on you to plan through before subscribing to a college. There are a 1000 different problems that affect people not including family deaths and all. And don't follow ratemyprofessors because the data is extremely skewed both in favour and against. DTEM
I graduated with my associates in business and graphic design almost 4 years ago now. Mine was set up so we could not select the courses we took, nor could we select the instructors we had. We also could not select the amount of classes we took at one time. We were simply allowed to choose if we wanted the schedule that allows students to start an hour early or the schedule for an hour later. On average we had 6 classes per term. Each term lasted 8 weeks; every 4 weeks we had a mid term for each class, and on the 8th week we had a final for that class. We had classes through summer and had at most maybe 2-3 days off for a big holiday such as Christmas. All of these things combined, with the fact that I traveled to and from school rather than living on campus basically meant I had no social life, but I was so busy that I didn't care. A lot of the things I learned, I am still using to this day! I was able to graduate in 1 year and 4 months with only about 11k in debt to pay off. I was fortunate enough to be able to pay it off in about 2 years' time with the addition of medical bills and whatnot. If you can handle the extra workload, by all means I'd say go for it because lightening that debt is fantastic! However, keep your mental health in mind as well. Overworking yourself isn't good and eventually it will catch up. If you can't handle the extra work, it's also perfectly acceptable to take extra time for the things you need! Additionally, if you have something outside of school that is affecting your abilities or wellbeing, by all means, talk to your instructors! Most of them will be understanding/willing to help. Life can hit you with a curveball at any moment, sometimes you have to speak up about it. Lastly, do your best to keep yourselves safe, not just in terms of the pandemic but in general. Best wishes to all of you folks progressing your education!
i love Ludwigs community, when i donated and said i was heading off to college but was kinda nervous, a bunch of the chat was like good luck dono and it made me smile
I'm going to a state university this year after transferring from community college. I can't wait to actual get into the groove of things and make new friends. The past year has been rough
went to a community college for 2 years and then transferred to a 4 year college, was really looking forward to starting university and then covid hit and im pretty much done with my degree lmao i hope we won't go online again mid semester this time
@@somethingsomethingelse8812 Yeah unfortunately all my classes are online this semester, but luckily the campus is open for those who were able to get classes on-campus so I'll be going just to get the "university feel" lol. Hopefully I'll be done in 2 years cuz after 4 years at a cc I'm tired
Thanks to Ludwig’s advice to join a club I both had my first real relationship from joining the Baptist club on campus and made tons of friends there, and became the youngest frat president ever in my chapters history
I remember watching this video when it came out, and I was a freshman going into my first semester in college. I’m now starting my second semester and I remembered this video and I wanted to see how I feel about what he said in the video with some experience. 1. Definitely don’t fall for anyone, made that mistake and ruined what could potentially have been a good friendship, also made the second half of my semester really rough, its really just dumb. 2. You have to stay on top of your classes, I’m a STEM major, and I think he’s right in the part where college might not be harder than high school, but its a lot easier to fall behind in a class, as a class is squeezed into a single semester rather than a full year, and its also a lot harder to catch up in a class once u fall behind. You have to simultaneously relearn everything you missed, while also fully learning everything thats going on currently in the class so you dont fall behind even further. If you slack off for a week or 2 youre probably fucked. 3. Also since you’re taking fewer classes, they have a bigger impact on your gpa, I thought i’d be fine if i had some mediocre grades, but I ended up crippling my gpa, which I’m trying to bring back up this semester, knowing it’ll be difficult. Fewer classes equals much less room for error. That’s why so many people end up failing out of college based on their grades, it’s not because their dumb as I previously thought, it’s because its a snowballing effect, and once you fuck up once its hard to stop the snowball. Thats why he said in the beginning one of the major things you have to do is not fuck up. 4. Finding a group of friends is extremely important. Just being around people in general helps you a lot. It seems obvious but sometimes this can get forgotten. I was lucky as some people I didn’t know very well in high school went to my college and I ended up becoming close to them, and made a group of friends that way, but I also joined a few clubs and met more people there. The fresh start thing is really true, you can really just do whatever you want. My college has over 50k students. It’s not like high school, once you see someone you’re probably not gonna see them again for a long time, unless you have a class with them or something like that. It doesn’t matter if you leave a bad impression on them, they most likely don’t know anyone you know or are friends with anyone you know. I still have to work on this, but its been something I’ve been getting better at ever since I got to college.
STEM bros, get an internship as early as possible. Getting a job when you graduate will be so much harder if you don't have any experience under your belt.
I've been working full-time while doing community college full-time and I haven't had to pay A SINGLE THING. By the end of the first two years I'll have enough for the rest of college but I have literally no friends from doing this. Praise lud for the advice about making friends, you'll end up regretting it
For any upcoming high school seniors, scholarships and grants are really important. Apply for the FAFSA and any other grants your state may have. There's also a lot of scholarships available for any different things, and if you did pretty well academically you can earn a lot. I didn't even go too out of my way applying to like 1,000 different things, but I’ve basically paid for my first semester of college from scholarships and grants alone. Originally I had to pay like $11,500, and now with all of my financial aid I only have to pay like $100. If it wasn't for that, I couldn't afford to go to college. Seriously, apply for as many scholarships and grants as you can, you'll save a whole lot of money and won't have to go into debt to get an education.
Community colleges are underrated. My college paid my tuition in full and actually gave me more financial aid than my tuition so I MADE money going to college.
Man I watched this video the day it came out last year. Now going to college and it’s stomach churning forcing myself to watch this video again. Really nerve racking :)
I graduated from college this spring and let me tell you, it is the best 4 years of your life but it goes insanely fast, so make sure you take the time to appreciate it!
I start college on Monday and another thing I would add to is that you should make online friends if u haven’t already. A lot of my middle school friends ditched me, yet my online friends know more about me than they ever did. It’s crazy how many people you can meet over the internet and we even might move into an apartment soon.
I saved money taking community college classes during the summer ! It also freed up my schedule during the school year so it wasn’t as packed and could be more chill! There’s a site that lets you know what classes can directly transfer to your regular college’s credits, and there is also usually a limit to the amount of classes you are allowed to transfer so check that as well!
11:20 actually the best advice, try to bang out as much classes as u can per semester, where its manageable! Youll be there for less time and the classes can be typically easy, but thats all dependent on what your going for Btw in my experience classes you take can and may overlap with other major requirements, if youre considering switching.
As a stem major, I feel like some of the things that he said which seem to not apply to stem majors actually do apply very much. Your major isn't set in stone the second you pick it, like I switched from Physics To Math after my first 1.5 years of college, and I knew people who did the same thing between Biology and Physics, or even from Biology to Creative Writing, as well. I actually think it's pretty common across all college majors for freshman/sophomores to change between a few majors before they find the right one. With regards to finding which professors are good and which ones are bad, the best indicator I've found is to read the syllabus you get at the beginning of the term and also to see which book(s) will be required if any. The structure of the course in the syllabus will usually tell you how much work you'll have to put in and how challenging it will be overall. The book(s) will tell you what you can expect from the professor i.e. if it's a "standard" text of the field (usually at least 20 years old) the professor might be using it as a substitute to make up for poor instruction quality, versus a more recent text that presents things in modern ways and formats might indicate the professor cares about your learning as a student more and so is going to be a better instructor. With that being said, I've had professors who are notoriously difficult and found them to be fair instructors, and I've had "easy" professors who structure the course in a way that made it hard for me to learn, so don't go into a particular class thinking you know how your experience is going to be. The last thing I can say about stem majors is that your success depends heavily on how motivated you are as an individual to learn the material outside of class. For me, that was reading the math textbooks cover to cover instead of copying down notes in class word for word from the professor, so that I learned the material thoroughly and independently of the instruction quality, and so that I didn't have to study for the exams most of the time. For some of my math major friends it was working through lots more exercises than was necessary or assigned for homework. For other math major friends it was doing big study sessions where they would go over all the material multiple times before they took an exam. For some of my science major friends (computer science/physics/biology) they would use flashcards to memorize everything that wasn't going to be given to them on their exams. And of course, some of them cried (metaphorically) in a corner the night before the final and prayed for a multiple choice test. Basically, as a stem major, you have to put in effort outside of class to make sure you're really learning the material well, which I feel like is the secret to success that most people who major in stem don't ever talk about. Yeah science and math is difficult if all you're doing is going to lecture and then attempting to do the homework or labs in a vacuum without any additional effort, but it can be made almost easy and very fun if you set yourself up to understand all the material by knowing which methods of learning work for you and actually taking the time to use them effectively.
Personal number one tip for anyone in college is go to class. I pretty much maintained all responsibilities besides that and screwed myself over quite a few times. Not the only thing you need to do but I think its the top option to keep you grounded for the goal of completing college.
You might think what other responsibilities could you have. I studied, did assignments, worked, etc. just treated class attendance like a 50% achievement goal. Lost a lot of free grade percentage to attendance related grading. In the harder classes those free points were the difference between failure and success.
As a stem major who graduated in under 4 years. I never took a class load over 18 credits. I recommend focusing on your core classes that relate to your major and sprinkling your Gen Ed’s through your college career. Gen Ed’s are going to be around every semester, where as some of your core classes are only offered certain times of the year. My final semester of school I had 2 Gen Ed classes and it made my life so much easier because I didn’t have to steer about 5 projects a week.
i cant stop thinking about an alternate universe where lud didnt join the smash club. like he just has no friends and gets fired from a new job every week NOPPERS
