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Thanks for being a viewer! Yeah it is crazy, this is probably the most consistent I've ever been with something in my entire life. lol However, I love motorcycles and chatting with you motorcycle enthusiasts in the comments. I;ve learned a lot from you all, it has been fun.
When you finally bought a KTM, I thought your plan was to dump on the brand. Glad you kept an open mind and are starting to see how good they are. Welcome to team orange
I was looking at the new 390 but going from a 600 to the 390 I don't want to lose that acceleration so I think Ill need to spend a bit more and get another inline 4
I owned a 2001 ktm250sx as a kid and it was absolutely bulletproof. Before I got my 2021 690 enduro I heard about the reliability issues but those are with the 790's 890's and bigger bikes. The 690 is a tried and trued motor and it's been a very very good bike for the first 5k miles. No issues. Although I will say I don't think I'm guna mod it other than the muffler and 02 dongle because all the high mileage bikes have a stock airbox. Also I do believe the 690's are still built in Austria
Nice! The Rottweiler airbox makes a big difference. Just keep the filter clean and I don't see an issue. Dirt bikes have a similar air filter system and do just fine. It just has to mapped right. I might get a custom tune just to make sure the tuning is 100%. This bike has been out for a long time now to work out the kinks.
Interesting. I'm really curious about how they perform in long-term rides and their reliability. Gas mileage? Comfort. So much! Keep us updated please.
Gas mileage so far is about 43 mpg, about the same as my 2019 YZ450FX supermoto. Only time will tell with reliability. I'll keep you all updated like I always do.
Bikes have one thing in common with ag tractors that farmers buy. No matter how popular or unpopular a brand is, it boils down to the service after you get item first from the dealer then the factory. The dealer can often make or break a brand.
Stock seat is not as bad as some say but a little stiff. The KTM comfort seat is great to me, maybe not as cush as a Seat Concepts seat like I have on my YZ450FX but not nearly as expensive as one either.
I raced KTM in the 70's. Was in the business for years, from retail to Factory . Ridden hundreds of bikes, owned dozens...just bought an RC390, the most fun you can have under 100mph. KTM is for racers! Austrian Engineering! SUBSCRIBED
Nice! I didn't even know KTM has been around that long. I love ripping on the smaller bikes, more fun than riding fast bike slow in the city. Thanks for the sub!
@@CycleCruza KTM established by Mr. Trunkenpolz in Mattighofen Austria 1934! Keep up the great content. Duke 690 may be my next bike if my 32" inseam will reach!
I got a 20 duke 790 I bought in 21 new and only1200miles on it right now. Don't ride it much anymore but still Love it. Traded in a cbr600rr in on it and it's so much more fun on the streets. Nice low end torque. Awesome bike. Only problem is trying to get parts needed a new key and took a month since they had to email them in Austria
I have an 02 520 exc, and an 06 450 exc dual sport. Both have been very reliable, and easy to work on. Maybe you are buying bikes that are too finicky, and complicated. The latest and greatest isn't always what it's cracked up to be.
I like the stock look and the custom look. It is a good looking bike. There are some beautiful super motos out there. They just all look like a motorcycle should.
In 1983 I bought a Yamaha tt600 which is a dirt bike, but always like the streets. So at that point in time the only street tire that was a 21-in was designed for the Harley Sportster that had the 21-in front wheel, so I put Street dreads on my tt600, so basically I made a super moto bike before there was even such a thing as supermoto, and I loved it. Loved it! Got a KTM 690r at the present, then I'm kicking around doing the same thing too. But I got two other street bikes so I don't know what I'm going to do at this point.
Hey cyclecruza, loving the videos on the ktm. coming from europe ktm is big here. you should try the new dunlop mutant tires. just put them on my drz and they are so confidence inspiring its insane. they are good off road too suprisingly even though they dont look it. think they would suit the 690 better then the shinkos. keep it up, keep it real.
I have the Husqvarna 701 which is basically the same bike, and I’ve had a pretty positive experience with it, and the customer service. So far I’ve only put 1200 miles but it has been good to me, like you said, these bikes just rip!!!
The wiring behind the headlight mask on my 500EXCF is kind of a rats nest. The seat can also be a pain to get on and off. My KTM and BMW both use a lot of torx fasteners. I’m ok with that. It IS important to use quality tools on them and if your bits are showing any wear replace them or they will strip. I bought mine at KTMWorld. They have an excellent parts website. Check em out.
@@CycleCruza 2022. I do check all my bolts occasionally. The bolt holding the shift lever vibrated out once. I found the lever. Never found the bolt. I keep a spare in my toolkit now.
They are amazing machines. That little 2023 RC I had was so packed with tech for what it was. They put so much thought into their process. Your bike looks incredible. It's got some of the most fluid body lines out there.
@@CycleCruza Yeah the seat release and tool bag blew me away too. Easy to pop off and the tools are actual real tools not the Harbor Freight special like the Japanese bikes. I put almost 5k hard ridden miles, all four seasons, on the RC before trading it in and had zero problems the whole time. Yours is a much more premium bike. Pretty sure reliability won't be a problem. Those super motos are KTM's bread and butter.
I've owned all four of the Big 4 Japanese bikes and KTM's since the early '90's. KTM's and Yamaha's have been deadly reliable for me. Kawi, Suzi and Honda ...I'll never own another.
Happy for ya Cruza finding a good deal on your KTM. I have a 16 Super Duke R 1290 . Wecome to the Fam. Hope yours keeps running like mine has. Which has all the goodies Rottweiler etc. Runs like a Beast ha . Might have to Demo a Super Moto. Thanks for the great videos.
You get tools, that's sweet but that thing of waiting for parts that's universal. I keep buying new bikes because I think that the dealership won't have a problem with getting parts but I am always heartbroken.
I love mine! Had to have the ECU flashed since the power commanders don't work on the EU model anymore. If you want a little extra pep there's also a high lift performance camshaft for it to get it to 85+ HP.
If you really want to go to town, reach out to MCE performance in Austria. Dude worked for KTM and Krämer and is a wizard with KTM ecu's. He can send you a handheld device so you can flash your own ecu with the files he sends you, he also sells the camshaft. Also, drop a tooth sprocket on the front and it will feel zesty like your 450 :)
As soon as they removed kickstart and went full electric only I've lost interest in that brand. I've had d lc4 from late 90s and those were bullet proof(at least for me), but it was not good "woods bike", so I bought RM 250, big bore swap, tailor it for my needs and the bike is still pulling strong (with at least 500 hours of abuse on it, with few top ends replaced) despite it's age (2007).
yo not only are they torx bolts, they also are hexagonal and can fit a socket! i think they range from 6-10 but you can use a torx bit or a socket on any of them incase you accidentally strip the bolt in one way, youve got another way to still work with it
Those responsible for not zip tiring your hose have been sacked! Those responsible for not installing your grommet have been sacked! Those responsible for getting them the zip tie and the grommet have been sacked! The zip tie and grommet manufacturers have been sacked! Those who did all this sacking have been sacked! Finally, the guy in the cafeteria at the KTM factory who puts the cheese on the nachos has been sacked, though that was an unrelated matter.
Honestly if the parts are usually in low supply and you have to wait months to get a replacement part, that would definitely keep me from getting a KTM. Even though I loved test riding a Super Duke the other day. Also my favourite mod on this bike is the color scheme change, looks so much better black and orange than all the orange it had before.
That is the drawback with the exotic brand bikes, they are a smaller operation so manufacturing is on a slower pace. Hopefully, I won't have any issues with the bike . Yeah I like the black and orange much better, that popsicle orange and blue was a bit too much for me. So far i really enjoy this bike.
One thing I don't like about motorcycles is most are way to overpriced like I was looking for the price of the ducati streetfighter v4 lamborghini and I realized that when I was looking at john deere lawn tractors that they both are around the same weight but just two different things and I could get 6 or 7 of those high end john deere tractors to the price of one of those ducati streetfighters
Where ya at in Pennsylvania, Anywhere near Philadelphia? I've got the 698 rve wit some mods. Ya welcome to ride it to do a lil comparison, pros/cons or whatever. Anyways love the content, ride safe brotherrrr.
I don't live in PA, I live in Cleveland Ohio. That dealership is in Pittsburg and had a deal on the bike, the only reason I went there. Too bad you don't live around, we could swap bikes test ride. How has the 698 treated you? Any issues? Thanks for being a viewer, I appreciate it.
Love the quickshift up/down, the high red line. No issue so far she has 1100k miles on her at the moment. I have the termignoni exhaust and sounds so good although I removed the 2 cans right b4 the Y pipe, now she sound ridiculously loud and I love it 😅.
Broooo!!! I just posted a short about my Honda CRF150L that I converted to supermoto in the Philippines.. AND.. put some Shinko E705-II's on it.. $3,700 bucks bro.. custom wheels and everything. Check it bro..
Ktm has great engineering. Some stuff in the way it goes together seems un necessary to me. But they do have a quality feel. I like the stock look. Has a late 80s vibe
@@CycleCruza this platform is bulletproof man, don't worry about it, the LC4 motor has been around for over 20 years and it's not uncommon to see them in europe with over 70-80k miles on them without any form of rebuild. The only known issue is the clutch slave leaking, if you want to beat that the Oberon clutch slaves are like 150 bucks and will last forever.
But the dealership and service Staff have to be the worst I've ever dealt with. Like they know you love the bikes so they don't care how they treat the customers
Actually, it can be. You can ride it like a sport bike, cruiser on it like a cruiser, turn it into a ADV bike, ride it off-road, take it to the track and everything else. It can do all of it and has super low maintenance at 6k mile oil changes and 15k valve checks.
KTM has that Euro problem where they're putting too much tech into the bikes. Too many electronics, ditching the back up kickstarters, ride by wire. I want it affordable and basic and mechanical and they're always going the other direction driving the price up and making them harder to work on. 2004-2008 was the best KTM era.
Most of the new bikes have the electronics, one reason why I appreciate my MT-07's simplicity without them. I will say this 690 smc r's ride by wire throttle is good, so good I forgot it even had a ride by wire throttle. lol KTM' bikes are expensive but the same goes with Ducati, MV Agusta, etc.
the 2018 701 has the new motor theyve been putting in the 690s since 2019 but without all the tech if you can find one. Make sure to replace the camshaft with a 2019 camshaft to skip the 2018 recall, but you end up with the unicorn of 701s/690s if you do :)
Yeeeees! Simple usually equates to reliable! My 2022 WRX is base model because I don't want problems with power seats, or problems with Eyesight system. Honestly, I wish it didn't even have Bluetooth or some of the other features that I just know are going to be having problems in the future...
Spot on. German and Austrian engineers and business owners are really excited about technology. The reason BMW bikes and Mercedes cars, KTMs have reliability issues is because they load everything up with electronics. As someone who has been working in the Software department industry, I can tell you: development is iterative by nature, so usually it takes 4-5 development cycles for a major change to become reliable. However these companies want to be first to market so they introduce major changes concurrently. That's a lot of complexity and failure opportunity. The engine itself However is sound and best in class.
It’s because Japanese bikes are proper supermoto. The KTM 690smr/701/700 aren’t legit supermotos. They’re more like hypermotards. That’s why the wiring and seats concept are organized. Just my opinion
It's based on a naked bike instead of a motocross bike so, in that way it's not a real supermoto. It's still an aggressive single cylinder super light bike with all the supermoto ingredients, none of the japanese brands have anything on the market that can touch the KTM.
I thought the same until I realized he mentioned the grommet issue was with the dealership and the tech questions were with KTM corporate CS. I've encountered that with Honda, i.e. local dealer was an a$$ but going up the ladder resulted in a positive experience...
I have a YZ450FX supermoto, single cylinder as well. The wiring seems to me more organized and easy to figure out on the KTM. My YZ's wiring is not bad at all.
When it breaks down 200 miles from a dealer try to get parts. And with the aftermarket parts cannon you blasted it with, it will break down and Jesus himself will not be able to troubleshoot it. About all you can do now is cross your fingers and wear your Rosary beads!
