I think the main issue is that they're bad at defending, scoring, having a midfield, tactics, buying players, choosing managers, and squad selection. Once they fix that, they'll being competing for top 6 in no time!
Tldr: - played the most games last season - 12 injuries - using players out of position - forced to use existing players - new style of play with players who don’t know how to play it - losses = low confidence - conceding goals after scoring
Played the most games last season? City played just as much and won the Treble. And have romped the PL again from the first day of this season. Ridiculous excuses
@@jhpfdijtuiweruotHave you compared the quality of players? Man City may have played the same amount of games, but are able to rotate the squad far more without sacrificing quality. You change 2-3 players in the Man United squad and it will collapse from lack of quality
@ jhpfdijtuiweruot ah yeah the most expensive squad in the history of football built by one of the best managers ever vs a frankenstein monster created by 4 different managers and overspending at every opportunity because big clubs know they will pay because they’re desperate. Totally the same.
which is crazy cuz Allison and Ederson been playing with their feet for like 5 years, how can a newbie be better than possibly 2 best GKs in the last 5 years?
@@duyanhng8430With all due respect, Onana wasnt born yesterday. He's been playing with his feet longer than some people have been alive. The only thing he's a "newbie" at, is the premier league
As a depressed Man United fan I was hoping this video would tell me not to worry and why everything will be fine once we have our players back. But turns out knowing exactly what on earth is happening at Man Utd makes you even more depressed.
Remember when Dalot was the future of FBs? And Onana was the savior of Man Utd bc he is the greatest GK of all time? How do they keep bringing in good players and yet no matter who is the manager, there is no desire to hustle.
E10H is being found out, what works in Eridivisie wont here because the level of competition is way higher. Mount I have no clue why he wanted to buy him as hes putting Bruno wide to accomodate him and hes not a wide player. Amrabat is slower than a week in jail he didnt change it when it was obvious. look how far behind play he is for the 3rd goal playing everyone onside. Onana looks also unable to cope with pressure. In Milan he has time to pick passes not in the Prem. The media is also starting to put out stories about whether he is good enough. Utd will probably offer him a 3 year extension and fire him 3months later just like they did with Jose.
We didn’t have a proper start just like last year. Drama and injuries. From here on we can focus on the football and I’m already seeing better football than before. There’s potential here. Watch.
In what way was Galatasaray better without the ball? With the ball, you looked decent against them, but Galatasaray are a really open team that sort of invites anyone to look good in attack against them.
Players that currently are unavailable for man utd: Jadon Sancho for arguing via twitter against Erik Ten Hag, Kobbie Mainoo seems to be close to return but nothing concrete it seems, Tyrell Malacia has been out for ages and wont be back for a while it seems, Lisandro Martinez just had another surgery and wont be back for a while, Sergio Reguilon, Luke Shaw and Aaron Wan-Bissaka marking the second, third and fourth fullback injured, Amad Diallo is also injured but have not heard anything in a while.
I think the Rashford to Fernandes pass is clearly the correct decision executed wrong. Executing that pass was significantly easier than finishing the chance and would have lead to a tap in - he just fucked it up
He's made that 1v1 plenty of times before. He clearly has confidence issues and has probably been told to look for passes more often (since he's so selfish most of the time). It was the wrong decision to not shoot.
@@CoconutJewce Lol. You appear to be in multiple threads making negative comments about Man Utd players. The very same thing that you falsely accused me of doing. Projecting much?
@@CoconutJewce just because you've done something plenty of times before (he's also missed chances like that plenty of times before, as have most attackers) doesn't mean it's not easier to square a ball 10 yards
Very good video. I am a Utd fans from Aisa, I've stopped watching mid-night games since last season. Everyone knows how to beat Utd, the whole team is unorganized, fragile and slow. Erik ten Hag's tactics are stupid and stubborn, he was defeated again and again on the same problem, but nothing fixed. Rashford on RW, Fernandes on RW then LW, Mount on DM/LW/RW, Sancho on CF then collapsed, LB/RB on DM, Amrabat on LB, Onana on short passes or long kicks, almost everything he designed seems to failed and keep using them. I don't think he would survive on xmas schedule or even before that. Also, he's worst than Ole, at least Ole won most games against Top 6. The easy fact is, if a coach can't play the cards he has, only wins when he has all the aces, then he's not even a good coach.
Whats the difference between galatasarays 2nd goal and rashfords wasted pass to bruno? Both are the very same chance actually rashrords chance was even better as he was 1 v1 yet instead of a goal it was a wasted chance whereas galatasarays resulted in a goal. Defending uniteds players are not tracking their runners
Good point! I think we need a few games defending and pressing from a 4-5-1 or 4-4-2 mid-block structure. The high press cannot work because we don't have the pace in defence to push the defensive line into the opposition half and compact the space that way. The back four need more protection because too many players are out and they get exposed every week, then the midfielders get exposed because they have such a massive zone to cover.
United need depth the most. They waisted the transfer window chasing high priced targets when they should have invested in younger players that fit Ten Hag’s system. United right now aren’t built to play possession football, Ten Hag needs to sacrifice his style of play for now and survive the season with what he has playing counterattack football with pace in behind which they have.
We are even more terrible at 2nd balls, very slow and barely any reaction to it. Gala's 3rd goal was a 2nd ball and I know we tried to keep a high line and sofyan played icardi on, but the lack of reaction was evidently. Casemiro doesn't help in buildup too and I observed that for onana to play his football, you need players who want the ball and deal with it under pressure.
I feel Ten Hag does not analyze this or provide a solution to this for the players. Or, the players are not internalizing this analysis and the solution. Or, the players (Casemiro, Rashford, Fernandes, Hojlund) are not defensively disciplined or minded enough to track where needed. It troubles me that McTominay also was lazy during the Bayern game. Need some fresh legs in there. This crop are TOO LAZY on defense.
During the dark days during which Steve Bruce was in charge of Newcastle I saw an analysis show on which Eddie Howe, of all people, at that time unemployed, explain why Newcastle's tactics in the previous few matches were naive, primarily because he was playing a 442 diamond. Now, it was a particularly strange 442 diamond in which he had the strikers split so that we had strikers playing on the wing, central midfielders playing as strikers and wingers playing fullback...it still makes me cringe to remember it. The main point of the analysis was this....442 diamond was a formation that he, Eddie Howe, would only use for brief intervals during a match when one needed to try and take control of the midfield, but that he'd never start in it, especially not for several games in a row as Bruce just had, culminating in an awful loss to Chelsea which they used to graphically aid his analysis, because the formation has some obvious inherent weaknesses for the opponent to exploit. Mainly the fact that our fullbacks were easily doubled up on in wide areas forcing midfielders to waste energy going out and in all match in a vain attempt to cover them. How nice to see the current Man U boss has seemingly the same tactical nouse as their club icon Steve Bruce. Perhaps he should be their next boss. :)
Onana makes so many mistakes trying to save shots. Rashford, Fernandes, Casemiro, Eriksen, McTominay, Maguire is on too high and too long of a contract to listen to their manager and actually press the opponent. When the tough gets going they'll eventually throw Ten Hag under the bus like they did Mourinho, like they did Ole, like they did Rangnick. Like JJ said nothing changes because the players motivation/determination doesn't change, yet they're all on 100k p/w wages with 5 year deals. It won't matter even if we have Qatari owners, unless we have a Director of Football to actually stick with a football philosophy for more than 2 seasons and not giving Rashford 350k a week on a 5 year deal after 1 30 goal season we won't get any better. Sorry for rambling, this club is pretty bad from top to bottom yet they're too big to fail. We're just a banter club with too much money. 👍🏼✌🏽
It's an interesting comparison at the moment with Chelsea, who they're neck and neck with. both firmly in midtable as it stands. and both suffering from exhaustive injury crises, and both with squads of near identical cumulative expense (counting the CURRENT registered squad for the season) I believe both squads cost around £1bn in terms of their cumulative transfer fees, with United actually being marginally higher.... but Chelsea on paper are performing far, far, far better, same goals scored, fewer defeats, far fewer goals conceded, far higher xG and lower xGC. Signs are Chelsea are getting better as they grow accustomed to Pochettino,. where United are seemingly getting worse.
What is happening is that their manager is overrated, as well as most of their players, especially Bruno Fernandes. There is only one team in Manchester and its all blue. I've been humiliated most of my life when City used to be a smaller club. And now? So good to be able to ridicule the lesser team of Manchester 😂
City will never be respected. No matter how many trophies you have, you’ll always be an oil club. Been more than 10 years and still don’t have enough plastic fans to fill up your small quiet stadium. You better hope that when pep leaves, you have enough tools to remain relevant cuz if you’re barely relevant with all these titles, imagine without it. How useless and forgetful.
@@wespicedmemes Cry more 😂I'm interested in winning, I don't want to be respected. I want to be hated as we keep winning, with our without Pep. We won with Mancini, we are winning with Pep, and we'll continue to win, while the lesser team of Manchester will continue to make people laugh.
I simplified it for you all: just because ETH now has Onana DOESN'T mean Man utd will start to play like INTER🖤💙☝️ 🤣 Playing from the back can't play with 4 at the back but rather 5 in the midfield. Man utd doesn't have a Brozovic or a Calhanoglou. Even Inter’s Aslani is far better than Mount or Bruno F. And Man Utd also have no dedicated wing backs that would run up and down and back again to defend let alone do crossing. I'm very sorry to watch how Onana has become and more sad watching Eriksen in such calamity. Forever Interista 💯🖤💙
I'm glad you mentioned 2nd balls. This has been doing my head in since Hojlund came into the team. The amount of times we play long balls to him & whether he wins it or not isn't the point. The area for 25 yards in front of him & the defender he's challenging, hasn't a Utd player in it ever, to win the 2nd ball, this is basic stuff
We don’t even win many headers, every long ball ends up won by the opposition or poorly controlled and given away. It’s not even a flash in the pan, every game it happens. No idea why we can’t win a decent header while retaining possession.
It seems to be a problem with just wanting it, which is a MASSIVE problem because those players just don’t want to try harder than others. You can’t have that thinking in any sport, let alone a sport where the whole team has to work.
“I was in Munich and I spoke with (former Liverpool midfielder) Xabi Alonso. He said, ‘You have to adapt, (it’s) the second ball, the second ball’,” Guardiola said in 2016. “I thought, ‘It’s OK, second ball, OK’. But really, you have to adapt to the second ball, and the third ball, and the fourth. I never before was focused on that, never.”
It was only 4 months ago that most pundits said Ten Hag had improved Utd, as well as individual players, and made impressive in game tactical changes. Tifo itself has had several videos on how Utd will play under Ten Hag, how he has improved/fixed Utd. Yet this video and few pundits seem able to address whether Ten Hag is suddenly now a poor manager, tactically naive etc and what has changed. Is it just the injuries, is it to be seen as a blip, or was the original take by most pundits on Ten Hag completely wrong?
The original take was not completely wrong. He did perform well last season becoming third in the league. While it's true manu are struggling with many other issues at the moment Ten Hag has still made mistakes in my opinion. He's forcing this possesion based football and high line pressing tactics this season and it's not working at all. Manchester united's best players are good at sitting in a low block and playing counter attacking football, it's how they won against Manchester City last derby. Also some of his signings have failed (Antony, mason mount, Onana).
he's been given a tough hand, but also, perception changes based on the job you do. For me, it's reminiscent of the Arteta days where they finished 8th twice because the Arsenal squad lacked a spine and the right players. I think that once stuff falls into place and Utd make a few more signings, they can be good too. Maybe as good as Arsenal. Just that it's a big if. But I do feel like Ten Hag is the right man for the job. Need quite a few more bad results to have to change because let's be honest, who are they going to bring in
the hype of Ten hag laster year was dumb it was just hipster fanboyism, united play mostly the same as last year, defensive counter attacking side who can't build up, the diff now is a few injures and abymsal summer mean we've been exploited more. Ten hag has done nothing to suggest he has a clue.
Or maybe the players are not doing what they are supposed to be doing According to this analysis, players are lazy to track back, they never win a duel, they don’t win second ball, in my opinion that is all down to the players, even the space between the lines is players related not tactical in my opinion, players are not putting the effort, look at arsenal players for example, Jesus, martenilli and Saka win more duels than the whole United squad
Its not that they're not scoring goals, they've improved on that front. It's mainly that when they do score they always concede straight away. Like every, single time.
Honestly Casemiros I’ll discipline is costing us. Feel like he came to United to show he can do more than what he was asked to do at Madrid. The amount of first time blind lobbed passes he tries every game infuriate me, and then he gets caught out of position so much that he leaves us open to counters/cutbacks to the edge of the box
It feels like I'm watching late-stage Van Gaal's team and not just because the manager is Dutch. When they have the ball there's no middle ground between slow passes across the back-line and speculative long bombs across the field or down the lines. The players are clogging up the middle of the pitch when they have the ball, and spreading wide when they don't - fullbacks seemingly inverting just because everyone else is doing it, rather than because there's a plan or capacity to do anything once they're there. On the rare occasion the ball does end up with one of the wingers (Rashford and Antony for most of the season), they dribble down a blind alley and try to beat 6 players on their own, more often than not leading to a turnover. If they do manage to keep the ball it's then either a low percentage shot that ends up going 2-3m wide of the left post, or an attempted cross that goes 5m over everyone's head and out for a throw-in on the far side. There's no attempt whatsoever at subtlety or craft and instead just going for brute force at all times. I've watched a lot of poor United games over the last 30-odd years (often at 3am in the morning), and yet this current way of playing is truly making me question whether it's worth watching. That last half season under Van Gaal was the only other time in my life when I've experienced that feeling, and it very much feels like this is heading down the same path.
You've explained so much of my thoughts about United lately. Me personally, I believe that if Ten Hag doesn't salvage the team's form by November, he gets the sack by January
Yup spot on, ngl Onana did drop his performance since joining MU but the tactical problem has been very glaring too. Sounds like there is an indication of bad coaching off the pitch to me.
The podcast has become unbearably dry since the change, can't listen to it anymore. Such a shame, no idea why they seem to have downsized. You're right JJ is really carrying it.
Bad on the ball and off the ball. On the ball: No pattern, method, identity. All idividuality, no collective, no team work. Off the ball: Bad press and bad block. The press doesn't work hard, and works individually and not coordinated. The block is easily pulled out off possition. This is on the manager and coaching, the players, or both. If it's the players, the manager can't do anything, and even Klopp would be helpless.
The problem is to play Ten Hag's way in the Premier League you need exceptional footballers which Utd do not have. Ten Hag should design a tactic that suits the players he has. Plus, if the team is making bad decisions in the final third that's down to Ten Hag and what he is, or is not, training the team to do... Ten Hag should stop blaming the players and do what he is paid to do, get results any which way he can, including dropping his footballing vision and adapting to a more practical style of play that suits his player's abilities, at least until he can put together the team he needs to play his preferred tactics. Ten Hag is being a stubborn fool who will eventually be fired...
Exactly Tenn Hagg don't have the team to play this way, it leaves too much space time again and again, makes the other teams comfortable and once they work it out can have United on the back foot.
@ian-flanagan nah it's more like can a championship winning manager take the next step up to manage a big club that is playing mediocre football for the last decade.
These problems have been there since the real madrid preseason game where they got ripped apart every time real madrid countered and the struggles in build up were also evident in that game . Even with players coming back from injury, i don't see anything changing.
A left back returning from injury (or dalot to the left, Lindelof to RB as a stop gap) would allow Amrabat to go as the 6, Casemiero to the 8, Fernandes to 10 and Mount to RW. Fernandes will press but needs to track less, Mount will run all day but isn't in the middle where he's a bit light, and suddenly its way more solid but still with the creativity. Badly missing Martinez's passing from the back though.
Preseason doesn't tell you anything, its more for fitness than anything. Missing a real LB is huge, missing Anthony who tracks back from RW is huge, not having Licha who is our most aggressive defender is huge, etc etc
@@MarkG7 can't play lindelof at full back, a full back needs to cover a lot of ground to create pre assists, lindelof is slow af in those things, same with maguire and evans
@@randomhooman3236seen the team for today? We'll see how it goes. I'm not suggesting it's an ideal solution, just that it solves more problems than Amrabat playing at full back.
@@esochibuike8477 It's literally a rule of the league that you have to have a % of homegrown players in your squad. If we sold Mct for £30m we would have had to buy a British replacement who wasn't as good at a higher price. It's weird that you claim to be a Utd fan but you want us to sell our local academy talent on the cheap
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot You're half right: he has hardly played this season... because when he has, he's been woeful. Jogs everywhere, loses possession easily and never shows for the ball. I said nothing about him being the cause of our issues so I in no way scapegoated him. Don't put words in my mouth.
0:34 "..their non-penalty xG [10.4] puts them level with West Ham, which tells us they're not creating enough chances [11th in the xG table]..." Arsenal are in 10th place for xG with 10.8 but are joint 2nd in the league table by a single point. Are Arsenal not creating enough chances? Is xG not really relevant to show in isolation without xGA?
@@ally4commerce Nah not even close. In fact just like what the OP said, during the past 10 years Arsenal finished above utd 7 times... Also it's kinda cringe to bring them up here.
this is an excellent analysis. it seems all the analysis of United's woes this season imply that a) all teams have not only worked out how to attack Utd, but are able to do it quite freely and easily b) Utd themselves don't make any tactical tweaks to do the same to the teams they play i.e. exploit any weaknesses in their play c) It is easy to play against Utd in a defending sense, as a compact low block is all it takes This season it's really looking like pretty much every team IN THE WORLD is able to play against Utd, and we will be relying on the opponent having a bad day or making mistakes to score. The mentality in the squad is poor, and all you need to do is keep the team out for 30 mins, score the chance you get, and the win is in the bag - there is no chance this team will know how to come back, or indeed have the confidence to do so!
@@badashgr8 I'm saying both. ten Hag needs to be making more proactive and reactive adjustments in-game to address issues and opponent changes, but also the players need to be better at following ten Hag's instructions, and also play with a bit more intelligence based on the game-state i.e. tracking runners better, calming the game down right after a goal, etc. This team currently lacks real leaders who will put the boot in when players aren't doing their jobs properly, or generally help re-focus everyone during the game. we can't just play for 20mins and then stop, or worse, let our heads drop as soon as the opponent scores. ten Hag needs to help develop a better winning mentality, but the players also need to help themselves in this regard.
I just want to watch us play one match this season where we have the full squad available. It is getting silly when 3-4 fullbacks are out and midfielders are forced to play in that position. There was one game we had 3 extra keepers on the bench and we could still not fill up the squad 🤦♂
@@KazNovakthey have system implemented and also they do have 3 left cbs who can play wide centre backs. United case is different, they're slowly implementing and the players are not good for ten hags system
Perhaps the manager should start utilising players from the academy, fans from other clubs keep hearing from United fans how good it is/was, putting 3 keepers on the bench instead of someone who could play outfield but is inexperienced is ridiculous
@@sivekkr that's just last year before that they used to play without a left sided player apart from laport also city has played with CDM as their main cb in one season so what I am trying to say is that the manager needs to adapt according to the situation which ten hag can't do
Tottenham, Palace and Arsenal are riddled with injuries too. Palace are without Olise, Edouard and Eze and lost Zaha for nothing in the summer and still won 1-0 at Old Trafford 5 days ago.
Insane how we can not string more than 5 passes together. Long ball is not the only way to quickly transition. In fact it’s the lowest probability way to transition successfully. Klopp never does this. We are basically playing Sean Dyche ball. And not well.
I honestly think Pep, Klopp, Howe would fail at Man Utd. Failing there doesn’t necessarily reflect on the manager since they don’t seem to have the required tools
@@Brawlypython244 neither degea and ronaldo were the problems. they played in a bonkus team. Hojlund is just suffering what ronaldo suffered . scoring goals but let down by a dysfunctional team
@@Brawlypython244He won 5 UCLs without pressing like a headless chicken under world renowned managers. But Erik Fraud thinks pressing is more key than to score pivotal goals
They interestingly also play fewer fouls than the rest of the league. Considering how often they are found running behind the action this would be imperative to do though.
I just want to write this before even watching the video. Last year De Gea have made the same stupid pass to Eriksen and you made him spitroasted the entire season. Onana comes and makes the exact same thing. The only difference is Casemiro was more aware and saved the goal by getting sent off. As I have the opportunity to get the attention, I am adding a long edit. The edit: You have beaten the sht out of Ronaldo because he wouldnt press and your front 3 (sometimes 4) will be on an island because when the first line of press was broken they wouldnt jog back (By the way I also didnt like Ronaldo playing and thought he was a terrible role model for everyone involved.). So you put Rashford in front and get some guys who will jog back and added a defensive anchor and a player who can progress the ball without losing it so often. You play alright and get in to top 4 (Well done.). Then you buy Hojlund, who can press willingly. But to accomodate him you need to put Rashford on the left side again. And now, you are having the same issues. When the first line of press was beaten you have 8 opposition players running at your 6 players. If you try to keep a compact low block you will never getting that ball back and a good passing team is whipping you for 90 minutes. If you try to play man to man you got turned into a piece of gruyere. I also think the team is on one if its lowest points right now and will be better when Shaw is back to fitness. But I also think Man U. replaced panic buys with well scouted buys over panicked deductions, and they dont think of what will happen afterwards when they try to solve a problem. Response for people saying De Gea did more mistakes: When they got Onana people said that he is a worse shot stopper but he wouldnt make these mistakes. And for the last season I would say De Gea was demoralized by the huge criticism because he was basically played out of position and you need to adapt for a season or two to be able to play that role and he wasnt given the time. Further edit: It seems like De Gea had his contract ran down. So the same as I suggested but the mainline of my statement was to have a gk grow into the position in time. I am saying spending 50M€ for not an improvement should be out of question for Man U. because they needed so many outfield players to fill the gaps that already exist in the team building.
It was also the exact same pass that De Gea made to Maguire against Sevilla and the deranged internet mob have been abusing and attacking Maguire ever since
@@PullThatUpJamiethe fact is that we didn’t need a gk, you can just buy a gk and expect him to do well for a big club never really works out, you have to gradually bring him in we should’ve bought either CB or midfielders and not mason mount
@@jhpfdijtuiweruotRewatch it. That was maguire's fault. He asked for the pass and for some reason passes it directly to En Nesyri causing the first goal. And with our fragile mentality when losing it helped hasten our downfall.
For an amateur like me this man to man marking feels a lot like Leeds when they were not able to carry Bielsa’s instructions. It’s got to be stubborn as a manager but when your team can’t press after 18 months under you, players like Rashford can’t be bothered, either change the players or change the system. When we went down to 10 men, should’ve gone back 5 and dig in for a draw and maybe a lucky counter.
This reminds me of liverpool 20/21 where the defense was wrecked by injuries to the centre backs and liverpool played dms (fabinho and henderson) in cb spots and it just made the team imbalanced. And rival fans went in on liverpool that season. This will go on (for man u for the whole season) unless they can salvage their season
The different is Liverpool lost player that game changing in the back like Virgil, Konate even Matip so they don't have choice but to put Mid like Henderson, Fabinho or Milner in that position, basically they lost all their first squad CB. Now see what Utd injuries list and see which player that are important enough that will change the game for the better for Man Utd ? I can't see it.
I think a lot of Liverpool rivals knew what the problems were, which is why they got bantered and why Manchester United are getting smoked by rivals as well.
@@senoalamsyah7481 only one fit fullback? Varane just coming back from injury. Licha out from a second foot surgery. But see it however you want, doubt I could reason enough to change your opinion
@@punctualwizard yeah i can't change my opinion because i can't see it. The only thing i have trust is on LB back from injuries so he can free Amrabat but will it change the game for the better it still uncertain. Maybe the manager need to start with 3 CB without FB formation than stick when it hard to work
@@senoalamsyah7481Shaw? He basically locks the left flank, and is the best progressor at the club, also our midfielder is playing lb since coming at the club
u can’t break up a defence and bring a brand new gk in and just drop him in there, he need to be gradually brought in de gea did not to get yet, we should’ve used that 50 mil on a new midfielder or defender he did need to move but not yet
I’ve really hated watching them play this transitional style of football. It sounded like a bad idea, it’s been ugly and it’s useless when you’re playing against teams that can defend. I wonder how long before ETH has to change.
I think they would be better as a counter-attacking team. Playing as a defensive 7 man block and 3 upfront just loitering. Also they need a decent keeper.
Man United have been a counter attacking team for the past few seasons. Ten Hag by his signings is trying to change that. Losing a world class shot stopper in De Gea and exchanging that with Onana who is all about passing..idk man I feel like United are in this weird middle ground where they can't thrive at anything
He wants to play possession but the team gives better result on counters. He can't seem to strike up a balance between both. He's not known as a master tactician anyway
they need word class ball playing defenders and deep lying playmakers, which ten hag just refuse to buy and spend the money on signings that should be made way later than rn
@@duyanhng8430 You´re spot on. The only consitently good ball playing defender they have really is Martinez. But the rest aren´t up to par except maybe Shaw. Neither is the defence strong enough to compensate for Onanas slippery hands. Ten Hag apaprently wnted De Jong as the deep playmaker as well. Which is a good profile for what they need, but he was unattainable (obviously) and they wasted time on that front. And now he has brought in a completly different profile in Amrabat who is just a worse version of Casemiro. Then they bought Mount who is a worse version of Bruno. So Ten Hag has either not brought in what he needed for his style of play, or he has brought in players simillar to what he already has but not as good.
Never have I seen another club that brings out the ownership to the light at every chance. The club politics should be invisible on the pitch and among discussions regarding the team.
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot Maybe they just need to spend another couple hundred million and the players will stop being arrogant pricks or domestic abusers - who knows?
Disagree that ETH should be sacked this early, but these insufferable idiots on Twitter that blindly back him are the problem, they find no fault in his system and always blame it on X or Y player. Also seeing idiots saying “bring back De Gea”
At this point keeping Ten Hag won't do any good, but sacking him will make it worse. He brought in a lot of players that only he wants, for a lot of money. When the next manager walks in, they're instantly dead wood. Maybe it was his plan to bring them to buy some more time for himself. Anyway it's not looking good at all.
The analysis is pretty spot on. I notice our inability to quickly move the ball out of the back in every game. The ball keeps moving between Onana, Lindelof, and Varane. Casemiro is always blocked by multiple players and doesn't make any movement to be in a better position to receive the ball. We need to move the ball faster and drop in more players from midfield to create an overload.
Every team that plays from the back has a DM that has good technique on the ball, being able to wriggle out of pressure. Casemiro doesn't have that, which is why he doesn't scan around him that much. It also seems like he has lost his legs. I have a feeling he would have been dropped a while back if we didn't have the injuries we have - Mainoo would've come in and played in a double pivot with Amrabat. We'd have more legs and energy in midfield. Cas seems slow to react to danger, much like Fred and Scot.
Varane, Lindelof, Dalot, and Casemiro arent technical enough to play out of the back. United needed to bring in someone like Minjae and Pavard, its going to take a couple more transfer windows to fully revamp the squad.
So I mostly hear that the system isn't bad (defensively at least), it's the players that either don't track back, sit around freely or don't have enough confidence to commit to chances created. The biggest criticizism I can do to Ten Hag is that he should probably be a bit more flexible with tactics because transition and long passes has never been a good way to attack a low block, like ever.
New system didn’t work first two games, everyone proceeded to get injured, now we’re playing decently again but can’t finish our chances and keep making errors in defense. Pretty crap start the the year, but I think we’ll turn it around, only problem is we’ve dig too deep s hole for top 3 or success in the UCL imo.
@@jhpfdijtuiweruotClearly you have no real understanding of football. Or nuance. They're playing good football but inconsistently, and in spurts. Individual mistakes are costing them. Considering all the injuries and the spine of the team being new players, not unreasonable to think they'll improve with time and players coming back. Martinez and Shaw alone will make a huge difference.
The same thing that’s happened since Fergie left. Team in disarray. Hires a new manager to completely change philosophy. Mid transfers with one star in their 30s coming as well. New manager boost wears off. Team in disarray. Wash. Rinse. Repeat
I know that it's "dunk on Utd" season again. But we've been really close in most games this season - a few decisions/moments go the other way, and we're looking good for the season
They all love Dunk on United season… more hits, more views, more traction, more pressure… our manager gets sacked, we get a temp manager for 6 months, hire a new big name to steer the ship and rinse and repeat for another 18 months… I see the cycle, media doesn’t help us at all. If you have the largest fan base it pays to take the piss unfortunately. Won’t be fixed until glazers piss off. Could you imagine being an “elite team” when your training facilities and home ground is crumbling, we have Wolves level facilities and Real Madrid pressure.
Can you compare this to how Ajax were playing under Ten Hag. I want to see if it’s a player personnel problem or if he changed his tactics to something that doesn’t work so we know if the blame lies on the players or on the manager/tactics
JJ said it takes one player to screw up, the problem will cascade. So the one who makes the first error should quickly react to recover and take on his man. Our front 3 don't seem to do that, except for Garnacho and Antony when they play.
I don't care what's happening. All I know is it's delicious!!! 20 years of plastic fans built up during my childhood. Now they're getting their comeuppance. But being serious, this new trend from goalies is really annoying. Just slowly walking up the pitch waiting for a press so they can bypass the midfield.
This whole channel would be 10x better if you could use videos of events from matches instead of just freeze frames. I'm sure it's a legal thing to do with copyright and it must be very expensive, but if the Athletic could work out a deal where the PL allows them to use short clips I think it would increase the views on these videos significantly.
The Glazers are thinking about selling. So they are running the club on life support. The squad is filled with free transfers and loans and overinflated academy players. And they then complete a few token signings like Mount across multi year deals that have very little impact on the day to day cash flow. It's very simple and obvious what's going on for anyone who understands how the football industry works
@@patientswim6888 Yes, the Glazers pay ridiculously overinflated sums and wagesfor the players that they do buy and spread the payments out across multiple years so that they can bulk out the balance sheet and fund transfers from cash flow (fan money). Just like I said. It's one of the strategies they used to increase the value of the club by billions. Anything else I can help you with?
@@luckyspurs Yes, the squad is bloated out with overinflated transfer fees /wages that are spread out over long contracts. Just like I said. What's your point? Which part of my comment are you struggling to process?
Basically, everyone is lazy. That will do as a summary. I guess Man utd players have come to the conclusion that they can make do with doin 50%, until the manager is sacked. They can't shake it off.
There's at least 100 teams in Europe with better ball usage than Manchester United. This goes back to the Mourinho era. We seem to hire managers who are stuck in the pre-Pepcelona era. How ten Hag managed to fall into that category is just our luck. He's otherwise also a very poor decision maker. The Antony signing at 80m seemed absurd to everyone at Ajax except him, he also bought Onana because he wanted to play out the back but still lets Casemiro spam long wasteful ball(he got rid of a shotstopper in goal for what exactly?)
One could argue that at any modern football club, the manager isn't the one who has total control over transfers. Why is it at United that things are different ?
@@FieldTestedSemenKun The manager should never have total controll over transfers. And ten hag is a good example of why. He got almost every palyer he wanted and they can´t play his style of football. His talent ID and profiling ability is non existent.
Ten Hag playing this man for man system is like LVG refusing to drop Rooney. It'll be the end of his career at United. United just don't have the players to perform this system.
Hopefully it’s a matter of getting fit and in form. The tactics Ten Hag used against Brighton, for example, were similar to how Villa went about playing them. Very different results, but point stands.
Ten Hag went with 41212 diamond formation pressing with no wingers and De Zerbie adjusted his the CBs to go wider. Aston Villa went with 4231 pulled down the line. So I don't get what you mean by 'same tactics'.
@@msfklfl123 41212 diamond? what are u smoking thats not a formation 😹 they both played a 442 diamond to shut down their 6 man buildup shape centrally, but what AEK athens and Villa did was have a better plan and execution for when the ball inevitably made it down the wings into midfield
@@ultimateblaze23 when you have 5 different managers and the same problems, you dont sack the manager lol. lets start with the owners and the sporting director
United used to be counter attacking team. Build up play or possession football maybe not their best. Probably using 442 counter attacking again will solve this.
Really?? The Butcher who was present in all the disastrous losses last season? 4 against Brentford, six versus City, seven versus Liverpool, four against Villa? Before getting injured- I think not 😢
Martinez is officially and undeniably one of the worst CBs to ever play for Utd. He has been an unmitigated disaster in the EPL. What have you been watching? Lol
Erik Ten Hag is definitely the right man for the job, but it's going to be impossible for Utd to achieve success when City and Liverpool are investing in the latest technologies and have better facilities, and even if they do have success it won't last long, as long as the Glazers are still in charge. Do you remember what CR7 said, the glazer never visit the club. Meanwhile City, Tottenham, Newcastle and even Chelsea's owner constantly work on investing in the club. If our club was anywhere as good as Ajax at recruiting players we'd be challenging Liverpool and City by now.
Excuses, excuses. They're not good because the massive amount of money those meany greedy owners have given the manager have been squandered by him. He buys poor players, for way over the price they should be bought because he knows them from his time at Ajax problem is that for ever RVP or Ruud they comes from that league there is an Alvarez or Kezman. The team seem oblivious of what they are supposed to do and that is all in the manager. As for injuries not having it, when Liverpool had 4CBs out and the midfielder covering at CB all at the same time they were told get over it
I've been out of the loop with football due to my time zone but isn't tenhag meant to be a tactical genius? Why hasn't his approach changed already it's quite a few games into the season and it's clearly not working. I see two reasons for this, first the quality in defense isn't there and more importantly everyone is doing the same thing to break their lines. It doesn't matter how good you are if the opposing team knows your next step.
