What REALLY HAPPENED On The OTV "PVP" Server 

Video is long, people probably won't watch the whole thing, but for those of you who do, you'll see I wasn't an asshole on a rampage, but rather quite friendly and nice. The information that caused all of the drama is at the start. Time stamps are on for those of you who want to skip through. Washing my hands of this now. Also, it was a *thompson* and an mp5 I heard in the train clip, not a custom. Sorry Rust chads.

Xqc killing someone: thanks for loot kid Xqc getting killed: this is anti-fun dude

The T-bag he talked about is literally how rust players loot. never stand still.

Its cool coming back a year later and the rust community is still on your side heavy, more than 75% of the streamers quit the game because how garbage they were at basic skills

Watching this back a year later, it's really funny drawing parralels and double standards, especially after the recent twitch rivals fiasco. Time and time again we've seen Rust shatter planet size egos and time and time again the smaller creators benefitted immensely, just like Minecraft Mondays did Technoblade and other smaller streamers. Its especially hilarious considering the only reason people like train wrecks got attention was because they were being total assholes.

Rust is the perfect environment to bring out the true character of people.

I'm sorry, killing people on a pvp server without a Million subs? Disgusting.

Ser winter, I just want to say, even though I watched from XQC perspective the entire time, I have realised after watching this that you did NOTHING wrong, and i enjoyed your video. The threats done to you were COMPLETELY unjustafied, and I apologise and I have subscirbed and will watch other videos you have made.

Dude I remember watching this when it first came out. I had hated xQc and Train beforehand. Thought they were douchebags and this only reaffirms it. Year later and it still makes me happy to watch.

ah yes, the usual "I can kill you, but you can't kill me" deal.

I'm not even a Ser winter fan but the way he finessed that horse man, i gotta respect it

I revisited this and my favorite part is glancing over at the chat to see the legit rust content creators absolutely wrecking these dudes

this whole ordeal proved how catered streamers are. This is rust. You were being nice by standards. I respect what you did 100% When I heard that someone "griefed" the server. I said to myself "Good that's real rust"

If you go look at train wrecks stream, he wasn’t “ roleplaying “ at all. Actually quite the opposite. He was try hard the whole time then accused ser winter of being toxic. I’m glad you clapped him good!

Looks like you and Stimpee are upsetting a bunch of children.

My reaction to getting ambushed isn't "what a dirty camper", it's "holy shit how did I not see that?" and then I start being more vigilant around similar terrain.

I love watching content creators clutch their pearls when they can’t have their usually easy mode gameplay especially in a game like rust

I really wish Aqua, Sam and Poob had played on this server. Three little gremlins terrorizing everyone would be the funniest shit ever.

This shit is sad. I lost some mad respect for some other content creators. You're the man for keeping it real Winter. OG

having a "RP/PVE" zone and a "PVP" zone just gives mix messages for everyone, the Admins/Devs need to install mods that actually zone those areas. The admin needs to make this happen As to the kills you've done , I saw nothing wrong. Raging over a horse getting stollen is petty. Players not knowing "north" and "south" is their problem. If you dont want to get killed, don't get past the halfway point. XQC needs to grow up and chill, yes even for me i get mad, we all learn and adapt

You and stimpee made otv enjoyable

So, basically: Kind of big streamers just onto rust for the first time to follow the “streamer server” trend to farm content and attention; then make the mistake of letting people who have been playing for a long time and are good at pvp; they then are epicly swagged on by said pvpers (Specifically Ser Winter, Stimpee, and Zuckles); streamers become angry at the fact that smaller youtubers/streamers are owning them, shattering their ever so fragile egos, which culminates in a mass tantrum in Winter and Zuckles being banned and subsequently dragged through the mud. Final Note: These are my words, not a summarization of the video. Just a summary of the situation from my point of view which comes from watching multiple streams and getting multiple points of view.

I am not going to lie with the amount of misinformation going around I went into this video pretty biased against you, but after watching this I gotta say man got dogged by these petty narcissists

Just looked back on this gem. I love the double standards those streamers showed when it came down to play the game as we all play it. Just lovely.

Just started watching this old OTV Rust debacle and I really hope they do it again, but require that everyone streams rust on public servers either on stream or off for at least three\four days in order to be admitted. Legit once people know how it feels to be a normie in the sea of vindictive, brutal, opportunistic players on rust, they are gonna have a much better time when playing together.

that horse theft was legit the best thing I've seen all week.

This video is proof of how streamers egos are attached to their “content” and why you can’t have an RP server that allows any amount of PvP. It’s strictly one or the other

It's especially funny watching this in 2022, when train's whole career is now solely pimping crypto gambling to kids

"To live a peaceful life is to not argue with morons" Ser Winter is based.

Wow that Trainwreck dude is legit salty and toxic as hell.

a pvp server that seemed to discourage pvp was never going to last

24:33 “Have a reason to kill people other than ‘i want their loot” Can these people hear themselves? Do they know how this game works?

Hey winter, love the vids but this one is one i watch about every few months because its so entertaining. keep it up

>Dies in a PvP game >"Hey lets get my army of premature children to harass him over literal pixels" This has to be the dumbest drama Ive seen in a long time, seriously. Keep doing what you're doing Ser Winter. Been watching you for ages, your content is at least entertaining. Don't try to argue with them, can't argue with idiots.

Would love to see train on a official server were no one cares about him being a streamer and trash talking he would be sitting crying in a corner for half the wipe

Watching this again still makes me Smile! You should share this on your socials again absolute classic!

To me you're a legendary Rust content creator. You blend a beautiful mix of pvp, and causual rust play (rp), into your gaming style. From asking people to give you quests as if this were a mmorpg, to playing with new rust players you've just met. I do think it's the name recognition bs. That trainwreck immediately brought up you're from youtube shows this problem so strongly. It's as if many streamers wrongly think that their fame should give them special treatment in the gaming world. Which is super extra mega cringe in games like rust. And anyone who plays rust and doesn't know who you are, likely wouldn't even recognize Vertiigo either, and his avatar is at freaking launch site. It's the youtubers like you who brought rust to the modern gaming era, who gave it recognition and light.

the people who were like "I'm raiding him" "I'm killing him" and actually full tryhard tries and kills you, and still gets tapped LMAO

Ngl I watch a lot of the streamers on the OTV server and I had heard of this whole thing in passing. Im glad I didn’t blindly listen to what everyone was saying. You were actually quite nice and kind. It was a PVP server and those who jumped in without knowing were just dumb. I personally feel like you did not do anything wrong, sorry you were penalized for other peoples crap. Best of luck!

I'm actually crying at zuckles and swagger. They're legit legends. Great vid man. Also Ray is such a dude

43:30 When Winter needed it the most, he ran into the kindest person on the server, Dyrus.

Yo train straight lies in chat lmao, says he was planting a berry next to the bush Winter was in, but has mp5 out while running down middle of road? Hmmm

Also, there's like a bajillion ads on the video, but I'm not making a cent, nor do I want to from this. The copyrighted song put them on there.

I remember the day the server launched, me and a few Rust vets who do not even know who the fuck half these people are, strapped in for what was going to inevitably be an extremely entertaining experience. Anyone who has played Rust all sweaty style on either officials or communities whatever saw the following: - The nightmarish no fun of getting greifed and killed in your birthday suit because you existed is literally par for the game - Teeny tiny character flaws that cause disruption in teamplay or co-operation are exacerbated and swollen during the stress rollercoaster of fighting/farming/basebitchin' - "Who took all the syringes off my sleeping body what the fuck" - 30 people seething angry calling each other bitches and rats and Sir Wanker is again, absolutely just par for the course - Also "lol thx for the shit nerd" into a "fk this game I dont even wanna play" in under 45 seconds, absolutely comes with the standard package It was a blast to watch the "Social Experiment" finally be used as something akin to a "Social Experiment". Btw we all failed, barely human. P.s. I love Apex and Lulu is favorite, watching her smile vaporize as the horse rider pulls up and waterpipes her is literally the core, the KERNAL of Rust. Without that we are lumpier minecraft. P.s.s Holy fuck hearing Knut talk about the horse has me rolling, I love that dudes accent P.s.s.s "Yoyoyo" immediately assaults you with a mace, dies. "Make an effort to use voice chat" LOL I can't even. You were supposed to beg and plead and make them feel good in that 0.75 seconds before it connected with your brain.

Ser Winter... You totally just earned a sub hands down bro! GGs!!! I bet it was so hard to be on a server with RP. What a great show!

this is pretty embarrassing for trainwreck lmao

Banned for nothing. “It’s for content and rp and pvp mix” but my boy Winters is rping more than half the population

Even watching this a year on I just hope some of the streamers have grown up (I doubt it). They display insane ego and their fans let them get away with it, it still makes me angry what TrainWreck said and he had literally no right to do so, nor any repercussions for what he did or said. It's a sad reality and I am glad you're still doing well!

As someone who has played Rust since legacy when it had zombies, the player base this game has fostered has to be the most sensitive, unstable and depressive group of people I’ve ever encountered. And it’s exactly why I don’t play Rust seriously, or rarely let things bother me. I log in and expect to play for a few hours and lose everything each time. It makes things far easier to enjoy when you start looking at it like this, and removes the incredibly addictive / destructive infinite loop the game has…the same loop that sparks impotent man-boy entitlement rage.

its funny, looking back at this, all the people who made the server "bad" according to the mob are the people who actually made the otv stuff entertaining at all

Subbed, genuine content and an even more genuine person. Swaggin outt 😎

2 years on i just had a little rewatch of this, sums up my feelings on quite a few big time streamers, its not about the game or the entertainment to them, its about stroking their own egos, and putting down anyone who shows them up. love pretty much everything you do Winter, still one of my favourite rust youtubers by far, never change

Great response, Trainwreck really cried so much about this to the point of making fun of your personal life. That is low asf

I made it through the whole video and all I can say is it seems like the others are using you as a scapegoat for their shortcomings

Watching the past 80min, your ban reminds me of my time in a staff discord guild. The headmaster is a busy man, streaming all day and leaving the server in the care of his subordinates while coming online from time to time and interacting with the community in form of events. I was invited to a staff-only guild as a non-staff with titles given to players that will have non-staff functionality on the server. I was part of the idea panel and later also part of beta testers. After two months, the head-admin told me to follow staff rules, but the staff guild did not have any rules, no rules channel, no basic conduct guidelines. I wasn't staff, so I couldn't tell if there were channels for support on probation or above, who could see those channels. They told me over and over to follow the staff rules, after telling me so much I made screenshots of my discord app, apparently, it's in another guild THAT I WAS AND STILL AM NOT IN. On the server, and on the guild, I was told that I can't impersonate staff because I am not staff, and before I joined the panel, I also assumed that I can't do that, yet they told me to follow staff rules. I think they or another server told me to follow "common sense" I repeatedly asked those who told me so to tell me which kind of common sense because the common sense of a non-rust gamer differs heavily from a seasoned rust player. I think you can guess that I am not talking about some rust server but another game's server.

As someone who has played and watched a lot of Rust, you were beyond nice and friendly to these people lmao

you and stimpee are heroes for what you have done, funny as hell to see people fall for stuff which would normally get you blasted in the face

"Trainwreck is a literal trainwreck rn" lmao

Bro got into drama with much larger streamers and turned it into a genuinely entertaining video and gained thousands of new fans

3 years later this intro with the music hits so hard xD Love the vid man!

Lmao ok, "you couldve been big if you just befriended us", thats just kinda petty and sad ngl, hopefully they realize how messed that sounds.

if u go to trainwrecks chat ull see his channel rules says "no bullying", man is the biggest hypocrite, i lost respect for so many "popular" streamers after seeing their true colors in rust

I already know what happened on the otv server. Winter shat on a bunch of egotistical “big creators”. Who then got super mad they got done in and complained like the little biznatches they are.

Not gonna lie I come back to watch this every now and then it makes me feel nice and warm inside

you know someone has never played rust when you move around while looting in case someone grubs and they think you are tbagging

You, Zuckles, Swagger, and Welyn are the best Things that happened to the OTV Server 💀💀

Loving every second of this. Nice vid

i love that im able to learn WTH all this new terms mean lol your not alone there ser winter. BTW i love your content you inspire me to play better

Dude was making friends, having a laugh, helping everyone and being the genuine guy he is, if these so called "content" creators were half the person he is, this community would be a lot more fun to play in... almost 600k people got your back mate! If any of the bad mouthers watch this video, fucking shame on you, view hungry grubs!

I came into this vid to see what the drama was about. After the first 10 minutes I completely forgot about the drama and just enjoyed the video.

Goes to show how sheltered and immature a person can be over a game. Ser Winter you handled it like a champ

ive never heard of ray c but just the way he speaks he seems like the nicest person ever.

The best part of this vid is seeing all the OG rust content creators kinda stick up for each other and vent. It's nice to see that other people were confused and unsure what to do. Meanwhile some of the big babies were just following the rules when it suited them or even made up their own

The reason trainwrecks said you t bagged him was because of the rust instinct to move around while looting

Damn all that hate for nothing, trainwreck was a wreck lmao...

I've never played rust, however I've watched hundreds of hours of videos of it. I'm hooked and absolutely love the content. Good to see your side of things. I've watched many videos pertaining to this server and this was one of the best! Toxicity is on a whole different level with those guys though....love the video, love the content, keep up the great work!

I fucking loved Swaggersouls on OTV, shame people shat on him for no reason. He stuck to his character and rp for pretty much 99% of the time and every interaction was pure gold

Actually hilarious seeing all the people who were made to out be villains, chilling together

18:02 Blooprint: are we allowed to play? I see you Bloo, I see you 😎

first vid ive seen of urs and was expecting some major drama saw the video was 2 hours didnt think id watch it all but i stayed cuz it was quality content

Really changes your perspective after only seeing the big streamers POV

wow hated from the whole sever honestly impressive.

Never stop doing what you do best bro.

Chillin on the toilet rn, will be the best 2hrs for suuuuureeeee

I actually really appreciate you because you exposed what a bunch of children some of these people are

Theyre the main character youre just the side character in their anime bro... streamer mentality at its finest

It's been a year and looking back these ego driven assholes brought you so much exposure and I commend you for that

i thought it would be boring after the intro talking part, but ended up watching the whole video. Nice :)

I'm not surprised. Rust brings true color out of everyone, Winter just happened to has mastered the emotion

What sucks about this whole situation is Charlie ranted about this without knowing both sides. Disappointed really.

Going back and watching this after, then and now it is hilarious watching all these streamers playing Rust and getting shook not knowing what environment they are putting themselves into

Just recently learned about this debacle because of the current twitch rivals debacle. Watched the whole video and it’s a whole lotta nothing to pissed off about. Also love that you got to play with Pestily! I’m a Tarkov main and he’s a bloody legend. Also, Zchum is pretty cool… just don’t tell him.

This is where the term “mad cuz bad” really shines lmao

Just remember that the people who cares about your content are also the people you care about....and were not going anywhere other than coming back for more content. Love you Ser Wanker.

Good content. Had to sub

Dude, the swaggersouls phone call was like a scene out of RvB man

it's really interesting how the big streamers can create a narrative & it immediately becomes adopted by commenters & smaller streamers. Like a religious leader who can provide followers/attention to preachers that spread their word

For the North! 💙 Don’t worry, Winter, we know you’re a role player at heart and you were doing everything right on that server! The OG fans before the drama all support you!!

when i started watching this i thought i would just have a little watch.. made it to the end and it was worth it!

bro I respect this man takes no bullshit. I stumbled up on you again my guy because of SirDimetrious.