Тёмный

What REALLY Happened To Johnny Silverhand? 

McTannen
Подписаться 1,7 тыс.
Просмотров 5 тыс.
50% 1

Cyberpunk lore, if you didn't know, is ONE GIGANTIC WEB of futuristic chaos!
It'd be easy for any goon to get themselves lost amongst it, but for now I've been able to navigate my way through the Arasaka Tower attack of 2023, and it turns out Johnny Silverhand had a much different tole then that depicted in Cyberpunk 2077.
Was Johnny lying, or is it the relic that is somehow changing the memories?
What do YOU think?
How GOOD is the music used in this video? Normally we always credit the great Carl Kasey at White Bat Audio for the music used, but THIS track specifically is definitely a favourite. Please go and check him out and subscribe to him. From dark synth, to chilled out 80's, he has it all!
Twitter/X: Mctannen

Игры

Опубликовано:

 

14 сен 2023

Поделиться:

Ссылка:

Скачать:

Готовим ссылку...

Добавить в:

Мой плейлист
Посмотреть позже
Комментарии : 31   
@ODMA2112
@ODMA2112 10 месяцев назад
I know Johnny is an anti-hero, but I connected to him at a deep level, like few characters before. He is that aspect - the cynic, pessimist, the one who has been burned, the defensive subconscious mind... inside all of us. Keanu just brought him to life....
@That_SaladGuy
@That_SaladGuy 9 месяцев назад
I wonder if it's more like how in the beginning of the game you fight the twins who share one mind, but several different bodies. It could be that both silverhand and blackhand were soul killed, and what we see is the amalgamation of that process. Both peoples memories merged into one trying to make sense of how they managed to be in both spots at once. Maybe the scene where silverhand sees arasaka blown up is actually blackhand's POV, but he doesn't know it. Sort of like how V can become Silverhand, but you aren't really just silverhand, you're something new.
@the_other_jackal
@the_other_jackal 9 месяцев назад
I really like this theory. It kinda explains the inconsistencies presented by the original saka tower raid as well as Morgan’s disappearance
@wolfwilkopter2231
@wolfwilkopter2231 2 месяца назад
@@the_other_jackal Not to mention that Smasher had it out for blackhand since forever and tried multiple times to fight him to prove that metal is better, but Blackhand didnt budge and couldnt be bothered, so taking the opportunity to finally get to him...was for sure much more tempting than to get rid of the annoyance Silverhand presented..
@TheMANGADUDE2
@TheMANGADUDE2 9 месяцев назад
Honestly, I like the idea that some of Morgan Blackhand's memories were implanted into Johnny. I can't fathom how Johnny might've been lying; he never told V what happened, V saw Johnny's memories, so the memories themselves must've been modified
@IsilmeTuruphant
@IsilmeTuruphant 9 месяцев назад
The weird jump cuts in parts of Johnny's memories, especially in Arasaka Tower, do suggest the possibility. The new memories play right to Johnny's ego, so his mind accepts them as true. If that's what happened, my guess is Arasaka so desperately wanted to avoid the truth of what actually happened that day from getting out that they even went to the trouble to edit Johny's engram in the faint chance someone might access it someday looking for the truth. Johnny's memories perfectly line up with the official story of the tower's destruction being a terrorist bombing, hiding Militech and Blackhand's involvement completely.
@TheMANGADUDE2
@TheMANGADUDE2 9 месяцев назад
@@IsilmeTuruphant Yeah, that's true. And it would absolutely make sense for Arasaka to want to make sure everything is covered up, even in the slightest details
@TheMANGADUDE2
@TheMANGADUDE2 9 месяцев назад
@@user-ZeroZelenskyNow 1. the memories, are different from the canon established in the source book of the TTRPG and takes place in the same timeline as the TTRPG (not some alternate timeline with small changes). So the memory altering is anything but B.S 2. Blackhand was literally on the same mission in Araska as Johnny, on a different team. The memory we see of Johnny on the roof was actually something that Blackhand went through, no Johnny; he died before that
@TheMANGADUDE2
@TheMANGADUDE2 9 месяцев назад
@@user-ZeroZelenskyNow I see no point continuing this conversation, you're not gonna change your mind
@alexandertiberius1098
@alexandertiberius1098 9 месяцев назад
​@@user-ZeroZelenskyNowyou can't ignore the previous games when talking about the lore of this one, it is a direct continuation. The memory editing isn't B.S at all, Johnny's memories are different from actual events: Shaitan wasn't shot in the helicopter and Johnny didn't take over the turret, Johnny was killed on the roof by Smasher and not in front of Saburo Arasaka and some of his memories literally belong to someone else. That's probably why B.D editing is waved in our faces so much in the game, because it's essentially the same technology. To my mind, the most likely reason for the discrepancies is that this is NOT Silverhand at all, but a wild A.I using his engramatic data just like the one V meets beyond the Blackwall that is using pieces of Alt's data, which Spider Murphy scattered in to the net in an effort to protect her from Arasaka (ask me how I know that...).
@Doinge
@Doinge 9 месяцев назад
so johnny mentions during a conversation that what he hates most about mikoshi is that it can change you without you even knowing it. that conversation is right after you speak to alt for the first time and she mentions that his memories are inaccurate. I think he is either planting the idea that he didn't change his memories because either he didn't or he's manipulating you. another time this is apparent is when he gives you the dog tags for his war buddy - robert john linder. but that's his real name. other stuff like militech wouldn't start an op outside a concert, samurai wasn't even together for either of the shows he remembered, he says he never worked with thompson again after 2013 but he's in the 2023 flashback, and he says he went back to arasaka with two nukes but militech only ever brought one and the other nuke on site was arasaka's failsafe. he also seems to have completely forgotten everything about morgan blackhand. before he was stuck in mikoshi and arasaka did who knows what with him, he was in the hands of a netrunner named Angel who is very likely Alt in a new body or someone working closely with her. as her partner, it's likely he saw some stuff she didn't want anybody to know, clear motive to modify his engram if she intended to put him in a body again at some point. I think it's safe to say the johnny we meet is heavily edited, and the only debate is who did it - arasaka, alt, or himself
@R2A97LB
@R2A97LB 9 месяцев назад
Now it's 100 likes hopefully 100 million in the future cz ur video shed light to what really happened and deserves more recognition....thx bro
@cliffyk3380
@cliffyk3380 9 месяцев назад
I got my own Theory, I still think the point at which Johnny first encounters Adam Smasher a huge chunk of that is missing, I think at this point in the story Morgan Blackhand killed Adam Smasher which would explain how he was caught in the explosion when Johnny Wasn't and the confrontation where Johnny is shot on the roof is actually Morgan who was always a double agent. Now this is were I get crazy. The took Johnny to interigate and copied his mind to an engram, which the game makes us believe killed him. We know though that Saburo had copied his own mind at least once, maybe more. I reckon as punishment and probably using alot of blackmail and threats to Rogue who was possibly pregnant with Johnny's child and twisted him into becoming the new Adam Smasher because again they assigned him to look after and acquire all of Johnny's stuff for no reason. Now I also believe Yorinbo got hold of Johnny's engram to put his original personality onto Adam Smasher to aid him in over throwing Arasaka which ended up slowing down his plans because hes left with the near mindless Adam Smasher. Which weirdly would tie everything together. Either this or Yorinobo had planned a donar for Johnny's engram and had already found a perfect match, like say Rogues child which is why he had put the job out to the afterlife but it was taken by the moronic DeShawn instead of the intended target which was Rogue..
@silvarace
@silvarace 9 месяцев назад
1:59 Right, Morgan Blackhand. Left, Johnny Silverhand
@floopsfooglie213
@floopsfooglie213 9 месяцев назад
I like to think it’s johny trying to make his death seem more than it was to try and come to terms with it. He died so red shirty, he prolly just wants to think it was cooler than it actually was
@nk-dw2hm
@nk-dw2hm 10 месяцев назад
I think it's likely his engram was modified by arasaka while he in their possession, memories could've been implanted
@alexandertiberius1098
@alexandertiberius1098 9 месяцев назад
I'm convinced that this is, in no way, Johnny Silverhand. The amount of engramatic data retrieved from Johnny's corpse, a process which is shown to result in fragmented pieces of the person's memories and personality when V meets Jackie in one of the endings, is far beyond what what soulkiller could do in 2077, never mind 2023. The implanted memory of being soulkilled could be so that anyone diving in to Johnny Boy's memories, who had knowledge of the program, would have a harder time working this out. I think Arasaka have blended up his memories with Blackhand's for a very specific purpose, building themselves a rockerboy shaped sleeper agent to send into the world looking for someone who was involved in the tower raid. Likely, Alt and Spider and Rache Bartmoss. My other (tin foil hat) theory is that a wild A.I has found it's way through the Blackwall, which is all to easy it seems, slipped in to Mikoshi and is using his engramatic data to escape the net entirely.
@nadg866
@nadg866 9 месяцев назад
Yes and no. SPOILER: you have to take also in cosideration how well done is the Saburo's copy in 2077. What was done with Jackie shouldn't be taken in consideration as he was severly wounded. Having a Johnny copy just to look for his friends doesn't sound reasonable to me. In my opinion they already knew what the Netwatch and the VBs also knew, that is, someone needed to communicate with Alt. Arasaka soulkilled her for her ability to navigate the Blackwall. Having the Blackwall by Arasaka's side would have been a huuuge advantage for them over others megacorp. Making all of this effort just for revenge is too emotional for something so cold and calculated as Arasaka
@alexandertiberius1098
@alexandertiberius1098 9 месяцев назад
@@nadg866 Johnny was also pretty badly injured, Firestorm Shockwave says, "An arm comes up. The autoshotgun in it opens fire. APDS rounds cut the young rocker in half. Johnny spins and falls to the ground, a surprised look on his face, the Malorian still smoking in his fist." And I never said anything about revenge, I think it's about finding Alt. The whole thing started with her and how capable a runner she was/is, and knowing that it was Spider who scattered Alt into the net, she would seem to be their best bet at finding her. The Blackwall thing doesn't seem likely to me as it's hardly difficult to get through it, people are just scared of it; Delamain is from beyond it*, Maelstrom manage to pull something through it and Songbird actually manipulates the thing. And that's not taking into account that the Blackwall is more likely a wild A.I that they brokered a deal with rather than some revolutionary A.I someone developed practically overnight. * I also have a theory that a wild A.I using Del to get through the Wall is what fragmented his personality, most of the "divergent" cars could totally be aspects of his personality, but one of them literally says it's from beyond the wall.
@taliawtf6944
@taliawtf6944 9 месяцев назад
The relic is not damaged for the bit of Johnny's memories, that was all his own ego and how he wanted to remember it. Remember Johnny is not wrapped too tight so to speak and has bouts of doing things he then blames on his silver hand. Most of what we see in his "memories" are just delusions of how he wanted it to be where he can be the tragic hero and not the addict socio-path he actually is. He does care for others but it's twisted up in what they can do for him not what he can do for them sadly. This why he tries to reconnect with Rogue and his former band mates but figures out it can't be like it was which is when I think he becomes ok with going with the AI pretending to be Alt in the end. After all to him it would be hell to live in a world where he doesn't exist anymore and no one fawns over him.
@Chessheromusic
@Chessheromusic 9 месяцев назад
Yea some of Jon’s ego. The real truth is that the construct is not at all John. It’s a caricature of Johnny where suburo wanted all of Jon’s worst attributes heightened. The truth is that there is no immortality. The construct is a completely separate new creation that is absolutely only part of someone’s personality. There are many memories missing. All the memories from 2013 to 2023 are not there. John’s last show with samurai to him becoming disillusioned and isolated . This made it easy for militech to seduce him to be a suicide bomber. They later find he was taken to a bunker … where his body may remain. But even the construct was given the same memories in soul prison for 50 years may have degraded the memories or the truth behind them. What ever Johnny sees he believes that what happened
@toddmccorkle8309
@toddmccorkle8309 9 месяцев назад
Johnny caught a good dose of radiation. He isn't lying per say, he's just had what is and what he wants to have been a bit scrambled. He was the hero, his attack on Smasher when they were all pinned down gave Shaitan a chance to get a real attack in on good ol Adam. At least enough to be a diversion anyway for Spider and Rogue. Anyway, yeah, that's how Johnny remembers it, just not how it happened exactly.
@destroyercreater98
@destroyercreater98 9 месяцев назад
From what I understand. The fourth corporate war basically happened cause of boats…. That’s it. Just boats. Two rival corporations who are allied with Militech while the other was allied with Arasaka wanted the stuff from a dead boat company, and so Corporate War 4 happened.
@chaseteague8733
@chaseteague8733 9 месяцев назад
Just saying what if Johnny's not dead but captured and frozen by arasaka reason don't know why probably the founder wanted to keep Johnny silverhand alive as bait to lure out any escaped rebels that attacked arasaka tower? Thats just me
@atompunk5575
@atompunk5575 10 месяцев назад
What is real in cyberpunk?😮 Its so... surreal, maybe he was trolling us the whole time😅
@banquetdiet928
@banquetdiet928 10 месяцев назад
hmmmm
@stacy_isa
@stacy_isa 9 месяцев назад
this manner of speech is too fast for me:(
Далее
Firewatch Is Beautiful Nightmare Fuel
5:12
Finger Heart - Fancy Refill (Inside Out Animation)
00:30
Secret Experiment Toothpaste Pt.4 😱 #shorts
00:35
What I Want From Cyberpunk 2077's Sequel
5:31
Просмотров 2,6 тыс.
Cyberpunk's Bleeding Effect.
13:30
Просмотров 7 тыс.
NOT STOPPING TIL NEW WORLD RECORD
10:4:59
Просмотров 1,9 млн