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@richpollock383 15 дней назад

I was in the automotive side of the insurance industry in the 1980s. This is when body on frame was being replaced with unibody construction. The same types of things were said back then. There seems to be a distrust of change but other than trucks, body on frame has completely disappeared.

@tacticalskiffs8134 15 дней назад

For sure, but it isn't easy to repair, though it can be repaired in some cases.

@jonevansauthor 15 дней назад

@@tacticalskiffs8134 it is easy. You just take all the bits off, and put the working ones along with replacements, back on a working body of whatever form that takes. It might not be worth doing for a particular car, but mechanics do it all the time. Look at what they do with barn finds. Right now, they're restoring HMS Victory for what's probably the tenth time in its lifespan. Most things can be taken apart and put back together. It's only hard with things like a Stradivarius, or a renaissance painting, or anything Apple make.

@orionbetelgeuse1937 15 дней назад

@@jonevansauthor it depends on how much you have to disassemble and replace vs the cost of the whole car and the severity of the collision. If the car is a bit older and not very valuable anymore and you have to disassemble half of the car and replace a part very expensive then it will not work. Also it is unlikely that the manufacturers or 3-rd party manufacturers will gigacast large and expensive parts as spare parts for mildly crashed cars. The effect will be that all the cars will be thrown away. There must be an equilibrium.

@mememaster147 15 дней назад

@@jonevansauthor For a gigacasting car, you need to completely strip one end of the car and dismantle like 1/3 of the bodyshell.

@chillfluencer 15 дней назад

I cannot believe that there are people that things tucked together are safer and easier to fix than one single unit.

@petersimms4982 16 дней назад

Matchbox have been doing it for over 80 years, the clue was there all along 😂

@changeofseason8054 16 дней назад

Didn't Elon mention this during one of his early Tesla presentations?

@iandavies4853 16 дней назад

Yeah, but no survivors in Matchbox crash. ;-)

@Longtack55 16 дней назад

Children of the 60s know this😊

@Michael-yi4mc 16 дней назад

You mean Hot Wheels toy cars. I had a whole bunch of them.

@Karl-Benny 16 дней назад

Nobody ever died in a Matchbox car

@punditgi 16 дней назад

They can't stop progress, Sam!

@martyh1963 15 дней назад

0:18 Automotive OEMs suddenly concerned about the environment when it comes to „Giga casting” but fail to reflect on the more than 100 years of fossil fuel burning ICE. That’s some irony 😂

@Withnail1969 15 дней назад

Where do you think the metal used to make a giga casting and the press itself comes from?

@frankcoffey 15 дней назад

That's like when people just "assume" I care about green issues because I have 2 Tesla cars and interested in solar and battery technology. I'm not. The earth does not give a $%!# about what we do, human activity is a non issue and it would only takes one volcano to humble us back into reality. Humans have been on earth for a blink of a eye and are so $%!@#! arrogant we think we have stewardship? Go ahead keep taunting and we will be reminded how much we matter.

@martyh1963 15 дней назад

@@Withnail1969 Maybe I am wrong but my assumption is that the metal for “giga”chassis and the giga press is similar to that needed for conventional chassis and assembly machines and equipment and therefore have similar environmental impact.

@Withnail1969 15 дней назад

@@martyh1963 Yeah that's right.

@torben777 15 дней назад

I think the environmental impact they talk about is that it forces damage cars to be thrown away and a new car build, which is obviously not ideal from an environmental perspective. Despite what this youtuber tries to push, this is a true effect. They ARE harder and less financially viable to repair in heavy crashes. That being said, I doubt crashes that heavy are common enough for this to have a huge statistical impact. PS! Its a misunderstand to mix ICE polution, gigacasts and OEM npmanufacturers in one discussion. Firstly you can gigacast an ICE car just as well as an EV. Secondly the suppliers do not build ICE car parts or EV car parts. As a whole they are kind of indifferent. Obviosly battery specific OEMs want more EV and engine related OEMs more ICE cars, but there are at least as many business opportunities in an EV. Anyway, they just build the parts that the car manufacturers order. So you cant blame ICE polution on them Ultimately its up to us consumers. Car companies build what we buy, and parts manufacturers build parts to the cars the manufacturers build.

@spacecowboy2483 15 дней назад

The part naysayers are not touching on is: If the collision was so hard to cause the gigacasting to crack and need replacing, how would a traditional stamped steel have faired?

@rogerphelps9939 14 дней назад

Crumpled a bit and be amenable to straightening out.

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@franciscoshi1968 16 дней назад

I used to think a casting was a bad idea until I saw a video of someone repairing a crashed car with a casting. It is easier to repair a casting than straighten a steel body. I saw a car fixed over a week end that would have taken weeks to repair if it was made out of stamped steel.

@kallekas8551 15 дней назад

I doubt the repaired casting will have the required strength as a new one. It just doesn’t work…

@franciscoshi1968 15 дней назад

@@kallekas8551 It was even simpler than that. They took a casting from a car that had damage on a different place and replaced the entire casting. It did not take as long as I expected.

@kallekas8551 15 дней назад

@@franciscoshi1968 I see…my misunderstanding. I wrongly assumed it was two fractured castings formed or repaired to make one. Have you got a link to the video?

@zizimai7568 15 дней назад

I would prefer an accident car with replaced cast parts than a car with straighten part by part as the car just doesn't feel as strong & as ridgid as before. Those straighten metal parts are no longer sturdy or may be off mechanically as the eye can't see the minute differences.

@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck 15 дней назад

Lars Moravy explained that repairing a Tesla rear end costs 1/3rd as much as repairing an ICE car - mainly saving labor cost - and can be done in 1/10th the time, a HUGE saving in labor. Why? Did Tesla do this? ‘Cause Tesla is an insurance company too - saving repair costs means Tesla Insurance makes more profit than legacy insurance companies❤

@jonevansauthor 15 дней назад

I love the idea that people think you can build your own entire car, strip down a Rolls you found in a garage most of which has rusted away and restore it, build cars in the first place, but there are parts you can't replace if you want to. We write cars off because they're cheap and it's expensive to rebuild an expensive car and the insurer has to provide you a car in the interim and also provide customer service e.g. get you back in a car as quickly as their competitors otherwise you stop using their insurance. Why did they write off gigacast cars after accidents? Lack of data. They won't keep doing that. And they don't do it with cars they're familiar with, if they are confident repairing it can be done cost effectively, and safely.

@binarybob9644 15 дней назад

From what I’ve read I think the problem with a gigacast repair is that the structure cracks rather than bends. Immensely strong but difficult to repair.

@jgarbo3541 16 дней назад

Ggiacasting is a terrible idea (because we can't do it)...

@GaryJohnWalker1 15 дней назад

When insurance companies write off a moncoque car - 'modern' since the 50s - that had a minor corner collision - even glancing a garage wall - while the door's open claiming too twisted, these gigacasting whines are ridiculous

@metalmick99 16 дней назад

I expect a car to help me avoid the consequences of any mistake I might make and also help me avoid the consequences of any around me who might also make a mistake; failing that, I expect it to protect me. It seems to me, Tesla is doing a good thing with its design and manufacturing process. And on the topic of repairability/writing-off a car, when I took delivery of my Subaru Outback almost 3 years ago, one of the dealership employees told me that if I was in a significant-enough accident to deploy all the airbags, then the car would essentially be a write-off due to the difficulty/time involved in replacing them.

@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck 15 дней назад

Absolutely correct!❤

@frequentlycynical642 15 дней назад

Without the airbags you may not have reason to worry about the car being written off.

@metalmick99 15 дней назад

@@frequentlycynical642 umm... I'll pass on that one.

@JBoy340a 15 дней назад

Yep. Labor rates are over $100/hour in many shops. It does not take long for it to make more sense for the insurer to just total the car.

@warrenyoung173 11 дней назад

I had front row seat when a car centre punched a power pole at 70km/h and snapped it off. When I went to open the door there was only a small deformation in the A pillar. Driver walked away due to modern design, seat belt, airbags, and the car sacrificing itself to dissipate the energy. I think it was shortened nearly 1 metre.

@norduferhandel4512 12 дней назад

I worked in the automotive stamping industry and people don't realize the amount of blanking and forming tooling needed to produce one part of a unibody vehicle, don't forget you have RH and LH parts too. Then you need assembly fixtures and spot welders, glue applicators etc.to finally assemble the steel version of the Giga casting.

@Known-unknowns 16 дней назад

"Some humans can’t stand change" It’s a lot more than some, my guess would be well over 80%.

@larsnystrom6698 15 дней назад

To me it seems like Americans have become more backwards lately! The decline of a nation might do that to the people. Considering the decline Europe is in, caused by its vassal policy, we can expect that to happen to us too! Asia, on the other hand,...

@alexkotenko1737 15 дней назад

It's simpler and more sinister - lots of people are to lose from this development. Someone's costs is someone else's profit or salary, and cheaper parts mean less costs, so less profits for suppliers and less employment for factory workers.

@jasjordan1 15 дней назад

Some humans are easily convinced that anything new is automatically better. They are the same ones who believe that you can build a car in 60 seconds. They also like to use peer pressure to convince others to believe the same because they don't want to look like idiots.

@larryc1616 15 дней назад

@alexkotenko1737 efficiency and innovations are a great thing

@djt8518 15 дней назад

People don't like change because change isn't always good some people are always hurt made homeless no job stuff like that

@Chris-ly8wt 15 дней назад

The hate has a whole lot more to do with lost revenue than safety.

@proximaone1350 16 дней назад

About 5 years ago, my mates Mazda BT50 Ute was written off after being hit in the front side wing by a small hatch batch . They said the chassis had been bent and was not a viable repair.

@veikovasko5603 15 дней назад

Good point, most structural damage is instant writeoff, days of body stretching are long over

@desertdan100 15 дней назад

I wonder about impact absorption. In the late 90s, my second vehicle was a 1974 pontiac Bonneville. That thing was a land yacht and a tank. I used to tow my camper or my boat with it. My wife had my kids in it one day because she went shopping and wanted to drive it because of the trunk size. You could throw a 55 gallon drum in it and shut the trunk. She was stopped at a light and a brand new Mazda ran into the back of her. It did not even scuff the bumper on our car but the person driving the other car destroyed the front end of theirs. They must not have a had a license or insurance yet because they took off right after it happened and did not even bother to check on my wife and kids. My family was fine, and my old car didn't even get a scratch on the rear end.

@dandantheideasman 10 дней назад

By design, the impact absorption is greater in a single cast, as it is factored in in the design and there are no additional parts to fail 🙏😊

@markboscawen8330 15 дней назад

In a lot of write-off the cause wasn’t structural damage. It’s the cost of replacing all the sensors & cameras that enable many safety features &/or (semi-)autonomous driving. The labour to calibrate & confirm correct operation a large part of the total cost.

@tomhoots 8 дней назад

This.

@stevencole7331 15 дней назад

Full self driving will reduce crashes which intern lessens the need for body repairs .

@gregorycrose5846 15 дней назад

Everyone saying that cyber truck will be dangerous when crashed, but when FSD is active crashes will be very rare.

@danharold3087 15 дней назад

@@gregorycrose5846 They also say the CT has no crumple zone. Everyone is misinformed.

@turkeyssr 8 дней назад

That's not going to happen for a very long time. Also, there will be a time when non-FSD cars are on the road with FSD cars. Good luck!

@glennmorgan4197 12 дней назад

Subassembley has been in use for decades, giga-casting just increases the size of them😊

@iscadean6038 16 дней назад

Well, yes and no. Giga casting works for the manufacturer. It speeds up manufacturing, reduces costs and improves margins. Does it make repairs cheaper/better when owned? I don’t think the complex alloys used are easily/cheaply repaired making ownership/insurance costs higher. So what makes the original vehicle cheaper to produce makes the same vehicle an owner’s liability.

@mattx4253 15 дней назад

Any structural damage is a write off anyway. Even if it’s repaired for road use it then it’s a salvage car. The insurance company still takes a total loss less the value of the parts or scrap

@jonevansauthor 15 дней назад

Umm. That's not how maths or compound interest work. You paid less, therefore you have more money and every year you don't crash, you have more money. Thus you can afford any portion not covered by the insurance. And obviously if you bought a brand new Tesla you are uber wealthy anyway so can afford to replace it yourself without insurance, otherwise you wouldn't be buying brand new cars like a rich person who doesn't have any common sense.

@iscadean6038 15 дней назад

@@jonevansauthor that’s true. But some people can afford a new car and are willing to lose 25-30% driving off the forecourt. Uber wealthy is not true unless your annual salary is less than £25k - in which case I understand your comment. I lease mine and it costs me £400/month - same as buying without the risk of failure, damage or repair costs. No residual value at end of lease but, because the technology is changing so fast, by the time my lease ends I’ll lease a better, faster, cheaper to run alternative

@user-vj2dw8pi5g 15 дней назад

Wrong

@user-vj2dw8pi5g 15 дней назад

VW air cooled flat fours had cast aluminum heads inn the forties. Very easy to repair when cracked. Old news boys.

@etmax1 4 дня назад

Note that a car gets written of at the point where the insurance company would pay more for its repair than to write a check for it's replacement. If a car costs $35,000 to buy and is 3-5 years old it may only be worth $12,000 and it's very easy to rack up $12,000 in repair costs when there's a lot of bodywork. We had major hailstorms where the hail stones were tennis ball sized and caused a lot of dents and the write-off point was $5,000 even though the cars were perfectly drivable and in no way less safe. That year I went to a model show so I wasn't parked where the hailstorms were. Then I sold the car and the new owner experienced a hailstorm and got money to buy a new car.

@steve_787 15 дней назад

Crazy that the Model Y weighs LESS than the new AMG-GT. They tested one on Carwow and it was 2130kg for the UK spec one!

@kaasmeester5903 5 дней назад

If ANY French industry claims something is dangerous, it almost always means: “This new tech is a threat to our business, and we refuse to innovate”.

@charlesrovira5707 День назад

It's not just the *French.* _Everybody_ gets complacent and resists change.

@wlhgmk 15 дней назад

Since when did you have a car that needed repair of it's frame. I never had this necessary. And when you have a crash, most cars this day are scrapped.

@tacticalskiffs8134 15 дней назад

I thought most repair shops had fixture to save banged up unibodies. Been doing it for ever. Rail frames can be repaired also, though with what everything costs these days, it probably doesn't pay any more.

@jbermiup8030 15 дней назад

Every body shop has a frame straightening machine, ask around.

@HPcadWS 15 дней назад

I had a 2015 F150 where the frame kinked just a bit under the front part of the cab from a collision. It turns out Ford had reduced the weight by using high strength heat treated steel in the frame. Ford said the frame had to be replaced. This tripled the cost of the repair. Maybe France should outlaw heat treated steel. BTW: The F150 repair was so good no one could tell the frame and other parts had been replaced and/or repaired.

@sjdtmv 15 дней назад

The sky's falling in France, especially when they are a glass ceiling, the last car factory left in France, "please turn off the light because you can't afford to leave them on"

@bigbird2100 15 дней назад

Great video 👍 In the 80s the new ford sierra had an insurance fight about the floor is unrepairable 😅😅

@Tbone2839 15 дней назад

Thanks!

@pauljefferies9087 15 дней назад

Good content Sam! As Always.

@davideyres955 4 дня назад

The problem that most people forget is cars are designed to be manufactured as easily as possible. For easy read cheaply. They are not designed to be easy to repair of fix.

@bonkersdrifttrikes8799 4 дня назад

I get the structural integrity and manufacturing advantages but I think an important point to mention here is that once FSD is in full swing, Tesla's will rarely be at fault in accidents compared to other manufacturers anyway

@mp6756 4 дня назад

In the United States, Tesla vehicles are generally classified as luxury cars, and, as such, their insurance premiums tend to be up to 50% higher than those for other vehicles. The casting process employed in Tesla's manufacturing is not a common repair procedure for automotive body shops, and delays in obtaining parts can significantly prolong the repair process. Consequently, when an insurance company provides transportation for its clients while their vehicles are being repaired, it is essential to factor in the potential need for a rental car for up to six months as part of the insurance calculation.

@arthurwagar88 8 дней назад

Interesting. Thanks.

@electricviking 5 дней назад

You're welcome

@suggesttwo 4 дня назад

It makes no difference. Body shops have been cutting bodies in half and welding the good parts together and throwing away crashed parts making 1 car from 2 wrecked cars. A front ended car is combined with a back ended car. An unbranded popular car can fix up to 4 cars because it's usually the corners that get hit.

@davidbrayshaw3529 16 дней назад

Everything can be repaired, within reason. Cost, however, varies. It's not that long ago that Tesla buff, Ryan Shaw, had two separate "accidents" in his model Y. The first fender bender came with a $10k Usd. repair bill. The second one was a bit better of a hit: $20k Usd ($30k Aud) to repair that sucker. Neither of these collisions were severe enough for the airbags to deploy. So, basically, once these vehicles depreciate beyond a certain point, they won't be getting repaired. Insurance companies will pay out the insured value and take the car to the tip. That probably explains why insuring these, at least in Australia, costs twice as much on average as a similarly priced vehicle from any other manufacturer. The average cost of model Y insurance in Australia is $3900 p.a. My $30k ute, by comparison... $700.00. Ouch!

@tacticalskiffs8134 15 дней назад

You nailed it. This is not likely the part failure that will tip it. Some places won't tow, or store the EVs even, so repairs are moot anyway.

@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck 15 дней назад

Ozzie’s get ripped off by local insurance.

@davidbrayshaw3529 15 дней назад

@@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck Yep. That's the beauty of droughts, fires and floods.

@tomhoots 8 дней назад

This is the actual reality, not some story written by someone who knows nothing about what's really going on in the real world. And this is true all over this planet. It's all based upon the value of the vehicle, and if the cost of the repair is more than that value, they just tow the useless pile to the junk yard.

@scottbarr9867 15 дней назад

You nailed it!

@tacticalskiffs8134 15 дней назад

Still not sure what it is. But casting Al, cold forging, has been around in bicycle for at least 40 years.

@RawandCookedVegan 11 дней назад

Interesting piece Sam. I was wondering how are they going to repair these things after an accident.

@kennethread5637 15 дней назад

You did great exclamation on this one

@carlbernhard9617 16 дней назад

Nobody hates the castings. Will Tesla ship out castings to body shops in a timely manner? Remember that rental bills can be huge. The castings, batteries, motors, etc have a lot of salvage value, and there are diminished value claims so totaling out teslas often makes sense, even though they could be repaired in many cases.

@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck 15 дней назад

Will Chevrolet ship parts in a timely fashion? My body guy’s new Silverado was RAMmed after a month: he waited 11 months for GM to deliver a new front fender. GM Citrus Co. doesn’t care once you’ve bought one of their lemons😂

@tomTrophy 14 дней назад

Will Toyota ship out new V8s for all the recalled tundras in a timely manner? Doge was backordered for over a year on the hood for my SRT,... This is an indistry issue, not a tesla issue.

@carlbernhard9617 14 дней назад

Read what I wrote, a question, not a statement. The reasons that cars are totaled go beyond just the ability to repair them, for the reasons stated. Also, do shops have access to classes that instruct on the proper way to repair or replace these cast frames? There are certifications involved in the body shop world.

@Jimbojam 14 дней назад

what I have noticed is my insurance rate has gone way up because of the cost of repairing Teslas

@mrmawson2438 15 дней назад

Yes cheers mate

@chrisduffill5248 15 дней назад

Many thanks, let’s hope the insurance risk modelling takes this into account, and will bring down costs

@jonevansauthor 15 дней назад

If the data can support it, it seems inevitable they'll pick up on the waste eventually if they are writing off more cars than they need to. And Tesla insurance will undercut them if they don't pay attention (or else make more profit). It's not like they write stuff off because they don't prefer to have money.

@user-jt4fy4od9r 13 дней назад

Practically all modern cars are unrepairable. yes, they bodge it occasionally but mostly they are insurance write offs because there is a cracked headlight.

@Karl-Benny 16 дней назад

The Giga Cast seems a bit like the Three quarter Chassis on some car`s just unbolt and replace simple

@user-yi8uu1du3b 12 дней назад

There are videos of minor scrapes & repairs involving welding. The kind of thing done on steel assemblies. I reckon repair might be more expensive with castings, but in the the bigger picture - are there less deaths? The model Y is 1000lbs lighter than a Range Rover Evoke! Cars aimed at the same market!

@darrincooper1318 16 дней назад

Sam you’ve been posting some really good content, keep up the hard work dude it will pay off

@steve-qe7tj 14 дней назад

The primary purpose of any automobile is to protect its occupants in the case of a major crash! If you have more than a minor fender bender your vehicle is probably screwed up anyway! They're going to be so cheap pretty soon that any thing over a totally minor crash, will make it simpler and cheaper to just replace the vehicle, and recycle the old one!!

@yggdrasil9039 16 дней назад

Dangerous to French automotive interests I think they mean. True there is the issue of repairing a Gigacast which requires a different approach to repairs, but this argument that you can't repair a GCed car isn't true.

@tacticalskiffs8134 15 дней назад

A minor pooch to the battery and you have a write-off anyway. That may not be the material science, but it is the insurance industry.

@tomofnorthcal 15 дней назад

All businesses must change over time to survive and we all know this.

@changeofseason8054 16 дней назад

Have a friend that has had his model 3 fixed 3 times. One where he was rear ended and two times he challenge a post one on the back and one on the front. No issues in getting it fixed each time in Brisbane.

@td4940 16 дней назад

The model 3 does not use the gigacast to build.

@iandavies4853 16 дней назад

Yeah, no Gigacasting. Only on the Y.

@davidbrayshaw3529 16 дней назад

It's a pressed and welded unibody. Totally different kettle of fish.

@stefan2796 16 дней назад

Maybe your friend needs to follow some additional driving lessons? Just a thought... Insurance cost will of course increase with this kind of behavior.

@jbermiup8030 15 дней назад

It reminds me of the progress made in battery technology. A better idea improved upon over time, and it most definitely will be.

@JoeyBlogs007 15 дней назад

They could design the car shell panel so it simply unbolts from the chassis tray.

@suggesttwo 4 дня назад

The hard part was to prevent unwanted freezing in a part of that shape

@kevinmcgrane4279 4 дня назад

Had to replace a transmission on the family van: $6000USD. TELL me gigacasting parts are too expensive. HA!

@pubwvj 13 дней назад

The vast majority of cars do not crash making this issue moot. Bravo that they are getting more repairable but I have only had one vehicle out of 13 that was in a crash over a 55 year span. That is 0.14% per annum. Insignificant.

@JoeyBlogs007 15 дней назад

Also the vehicle gigacast could be designed in a way that it has join seems built into the casting, that can have panel sections that can be more easily cut out replaced ( and re-welded back etc.. ) Thus the gigacast would retaint the strentgh benefits, whilst also having panel segment seems in the cast shell for typical panel damaged areas. Basically designing the cast car shell with the expectation that panel segments will require replacement and provisioning for that.

@user-xq1wz3tp5z 15 дней назад

Yes, Joe: it is good IF the structure is DESIGNED for MAINTAINABILITY.

@danharold3087 15 дней назад

As the collision repair industry comes up to speed cars with gigaCasting will be repaired at a lower cost than conventional cars. Less labor.

@brucec954 15 дней назад

Depending on the age, from what I have seen, if all the cars airbags go off in a crash, it will likely be totaled anyway.

@frankcoffey 15 дней назад

There has never been an expectation (or requirement) that cars could be easily or cheaply repaired. There are many gas powered cars that can be totaled by a minor accident because a bunch of tiny parts are too expensive. Rover, BMW, Mercedes, even Genesis cars can be not cost effective to repair and there is no real standard auto body repair shops have to comply with to certify a car is as safe as it was when new after a repair. That is a myth.

@RadioCamp 16 дней назад

Love your work and watch almost every day. One small area for improvement: I've noticed that your voice is sometimes over-modulated. It could be your record levels are just a bit too hot, or you need to upgrade to a cleaner preamp/converter. ✌

@user-rq1mk9hi4x 15 дней назад

Sounds ok to me. Let’s not nitpick !

@RadioCamp 15 дней назад

@@user-rq1mk9hi4x It's a small detail, but one easily fixed with a small adjustment or a bit of compression. True, most won't notice the difference. I'm a VoiceOver pro so immediately notice these things. Just trying to help Sam to sound even more amazing.

@gerrylangford6485 15 дней назад

They said the same when manufacturers moved away from body on chassis manufacturing to monocoque construction.

@robertduster8508 14 дней назад

How much is it to replace a gigacast part. Not just the part. but stripping and reassembling

@XinaCCPFreeTibet 16 дней назад

“Huawei now being able to make a vehicle in 67 seconds” 😂😂😂 this is not a Xinese propagaaanda channel. No. It is absolutely not. Who told you it is ?

@iandavies4853 16 дней назад

Even in 2022, Tesla 3 or Y were being produced every 40 seconds (38-44). That’s just the speed of modern design. Unlike VW or GM.

@XinaCCPFreeTibet 15 дней назад

@@iandavies4853 I don’t believe he said “every” .. he said “in”. Which is kind of the propaganda that many people are likely to believe. 1:15

@iandavies4853 15 дней назад

@@XinaCCPFreeTibet shorthand. Is it rewarding being pedantic? I now regard Tibet activists as idiots. It’s on you. I see basis of your commenting. Hate.

@tomtompkins6779 15 дней назад

Some people find it difficult that other countries outside the US have much better technology and engineering than the US does. The few things that are still made in the US are made by mostly dinosaur legacy companies that don't want to change the way they do business. They say it's too expensive. Eventually they'll go out of business by not keeping up. I wonder how expensive that is.

@MichaelGreenLagos 5 дней назад

Hi. What about FSD if they don't get into crashes they don't need to be repaired.

@stefan2796 15 дней назад

In time, more and more partitions of the giga casting are suitable for repair (Tesla shares this information with repair shops). So parts can be cut off, put back into shape and/or (re)welded. So if a model Y gets a hit at the rear side, this doesn't make the car a total loss in all cases. It depends on where exactly it was hit and the force of the impact (as with any car, i would say).

@basilmcdonnell9807 15 дней назад

Local shops can weld steel, but welding aluminum requires skills and equipment that shops don't have. It's called the hardest material to weld.

@stefan2796 15 дней назад

@@basilmcdonnell9807 Specialized shops can work with a variety of metals. Not on every corner though.

@ExploringCabinsandMines 16 дней назад

Sam only has one shirt!

@binarybob9644 16 дней назад

He’s probably got seven of them, one each for Monday to Saturday and a special one for Sunday.

@jantjarks7946 16 дней назад

Actually, one shirt, one washing machine and one tumbler. 🤔😉

@IoniqIonityIonna 16 дней назад

Haha

@Kukaboora 15 дней назад

If the main purpose of Giga casting is to reduce the cost of building cars, Giga casting had failed miserably. BYD, Geely,Nio,XPeng … can produce cheaper cars. Furthermore, one piece body has outrageous expensive repair costs. You cannot put a body back in original shape without some hot work of cutting and welding.

@dikkybee4003 15 дней назад

Have worked in die casting for the last 20+ years. Casting in aluminium has no engineering qualities. Would not touch a car that has most of its structure made out of any cast material.

@casperhansen826 15 дней назад

Are you sure they can build their cars cheaper? Do you really think there is any correlation between sales price and production cost?

@suggesttwo 4 дня назад

1 large part is much stronger than 150 parts welded together. Even if they are seam welded. 5:49

@flutieflambert 14 дней назад

Debating whether or not the gigapress is a bust misses a larger issue. Sellers profit by passing along costs to the consumer, like planned obsolescence that plagues every industry. Once upon a time, you could buy a fridge, a phone, a stove, a dishwasher, a washing machine that would last a lifetime. Now you're lucky if they last 10 years. A computer and a smart phone lasts 2 years. So if Tesla, or Toyota, or Honda, or any manufacturer of any product, can make pieces of crap that break in a few years, why wouldn't they? Let your competition try and do otherwise and you can watch them flounder as you profit. And this was and is inevitable, because the profit incentive itself is a race to the bottom. The consumer's loss is the supplier's gain.

@Dutchastic 5 дней назад

Gigacasting is efficient when you know up front that you're to sell large quantities of your car...

@timfehlberg9051 15 дней назад

Funny that the French are complaining about giga casting. IDRA was acquired by Circet which is a French Company.

@timfehlberg9051 15 дней назад

That's according to Pitchbook but Wikipedia says the parent company is LK Machinery.

@iandavies4853 16 дней назад

At 3 min, subtitles indicate gigacast cost $25,000, yet Sam explicitly says 2 & half thousand dollars. This comment was in answer to Vasil7410 (since deleted)

@christopherj2231 15 дней назад

Subtitles do not indicate that.

@iandavies4853 15 дней назад

@@christopherj2231 captions (autogenerated) English, 3:05 It’s irrelevant now, only triggered by Vasil7410 who then deleted his comment. $2,500 for a huge, intricate casting is good value - when rest of job will exceed $20,000.

@zenster1097 14 дней назад

It depends on the gigacasting. It depends on the severity of the crash.

@geob3963 15 дней назад

Some people fear looking like they don’t know what they’re doing. Their walk, their talk is all about convincing everybody else around them that they are in the know. Not knowing is a sign of weakness. Change often brings unforeseeable opportunities where they might slip up and appear weak. Change bad.

@mrmawson2438 15 дней назад

Googled it In simple terms, 'cut and shut' describes the practice of combining two cars that have been involved in an accident of some sort. It involves an undamaged front portion of a car being combined with the undamaged rear portion of a different car.

@user-rq1mk9hi4x 15 дней назад

Frankenstein repair !

@user-xq1wz3tp5z 15 дней назад

U.S. calls it a 'clipper'.

@buixote 15 дней назад

Hey Sam, as a cyclist, you must certainly know that "innovation" is frequently undertaken *for profit*. For example, newer, finickier parts that no longer conform to established standards, and require the purchase of an entire "suite" of other parts.

@pepedafrog6951 15 дней назад

Cars are unrepairable because they are not designed to be reliable and easily repairable. It has nothing to do with the gigapress. Take a modular approach to allow for controlled damage that can be repaired.

@Tigerex966 15 дней назад

It gets scrapped because its too hard to repair. It can be repaired but expensive insurance co.oanies say tjis ate they lying. It really is cost cutting thats why its even a thing yet savings are not pass to consumers its profits.

@dankuo8561 15 дней назад

Collision repair will be a thing of the past in the new AI backed transportation. Autonomous vehicles will be so good as to reduce injuries and deaths from human driving by orders of magnitude. There will be a short period needing repairs during the transition period as humans crash into AI-vehicles.

@aware2action 5 дней назад

Cracks on the casting can be repaired, but larger cracks or need for a lot of disassembly, Insurance will right away total the car, since they can recover the the cost(not cast😂) much more easily, without any additional work on the claim🤔. Deformation, even small sections will lead to totalling the car right away😢. The issue is the insurance industry, not the gigacasting to fault at. Any significant manual labor is deemed as an excessive cost overhead unfortunately. Any structural repair is also considered a liability(which the consumer can make insurance pay for legally, in the court of law) and will not be acceptable as a repair solution. In this case, it is the legal system that is to blame, since liabilities are not just limited to the repair cost, and could involve personal injury and coincidental damages🤔. This is where a complete replacement, such as cutting out and welding a metal sheet is considered an acceptable repair.

@newsgeekus1216 15 дней назад

Manufacturing experts, including Sandy, have been suggesting casting for over 20 years. But legacy auto changes slowly. Not auto exec ever got fired for saying no. You only get fired for saying yes and it fails.

@justinr9753 15 дней назад

He also praised taking the buttons off a $32,000 Chevy Bolt to save a few bucks. That's his job is to help manufacturers save a few bucks at manufacturing and almost everything was his idea despite not even being new after his hero does it

@shawneliason790 15 дней назад

Ill tell you what happens to it. Its done. You have to replace the entire casting. A casting breaks. It doesn’t bend. Sheetmetal bends then bends back if you pull on it. A casting doesn’t stretch, it doesn’t bend, a casting cracks and breaks. So therefore it must be replaced. And that means your removing the main structure which weakens the structure. Takes a huge amount of time. So. Too expensive. So they total the car.

@mrmawson2438 15 дней назад

Morning mate

@SHO1989 15 дней назад

I wonder what the scrap value is for a damaged gigacasting? There's a lot of what ever special aluminum alloy in there and if returned to Tesla for recycling into a new casting, what would that be worth? Might be a valuable core refund towards the replacement casting.

@MD-rz7dn 2 дня назад

Its about replacement cost installed. You have that info?

@ObadiahIsurfate-ze7zq 13 дней назад

Why aren’t the gigacastings in the 3, S & X by now ? I was disappointed to find that the new 3 didn’t have the gigacasting in it.

@alancadorette3447 15 дней назад

old companies do not like risk like that. big thing was everything was out sourced. who would pay for new tech, if not sure ford or Gm would buy parts

@darrenmurphy6251 14 дней назад

not a mechanic and i dont know for sure but i think bmw have been making die cast aluminium sub frames and major load bearing suspension parts out of cast aluminium for a few decades now ,this is just a natural progression the scale is new the tech is old, trusted, tested dont see what the fuss is about ,but i do wonder about aluminiums rapid corrosion in coastal air issue, but bmw must have already fixed this since road gritting with salt will be a major issue too

@georgestreicher252 15 дней назад

I learned to drive in the Northeast US. The sanding trucks were a frequent sight in the winter spreading out their salt laden sand. As a result, cars back then would start to disintegrate in a few years. My question is how corrosion proof are these parts?

@jonevansauthor 15 дней назад

Gigacastings are aluminium so very would be my guess.

@cg5648 15 дней назад

@@jonevansauthorunless it is a Cyber truck, they rust 😂

@georgestreicher252 15 дней назад

@@jonevansauthor Salt is no friend of aluminum. I have seen outboard motors back in the 60s and 70s that have been in salt water, and they looked bad. Maybe today there are coatings or better alloys. Let's hope because this technology will be catching on. On the other hand, EVs, I believe will be someday supplanted by the good old combustion engine run on gasified water as was done by Stanely Meyer.

@user-rq1mk9hi4x 15 дней назад

Back to the Future !

@levenkay4468 15 дней назад

@@georgestreicher252 Have you ever run across the subject called, I believe, "physics"? Stanley Meyer's a fraud; look him up with a Web search.

@rp9674 15 дней назад

I'm not sure crash strength is good, usually they're looking for a controlled collapse. The labor is likely to be much higher cost than the part. There are a lot of cost-benefit calculations to be made, all depends on insurance companies decisions, a salvage car is almost worthless. I'm not afraid of change, but I'm not going to consider it better just because Sandy Monroe or Tesla says it's better.

@DileepaRanawake 15 дней назад

Woah insaine what the model y has withstood. I’d be a bit worried about the safety of repairing a gigacast (even after the video) but what would be more interesting is perhaps it might one day be economically viable to replace the whole body after a crash and retain the more valuable electronics. Can understand how repair could be more complex and costly atm but most of the legacy autos claims don’t make any sense.

@danharold3087 15 дней назад

Look at the cyberTruck tear downs to see the future of cars. So long as the passengers compartment is still square one can remove and replace either or both ends of the car with new true components. Bolt off. Bolt on. All in a faction of the time it takes to work on a conventional car body.

@Wandering_Bear 15 дней назад

The US led the way in this legal framework of lies among the large corporations. I remember learning about the US legal system giving businesses the right to lie in public statements. The argument was that businesses deserve the same legal privilege to lie as private citizen. As long as no one is in danger because of the lies they are allowed. It seems that this has spread around the western world. So it's legal to make false statements like this, and governments often take what the legacy auto makers say as expert opinion.

@belowme4927 15 дней назад

and.......what are the labor hours for ripping half the car apart to replace the casting?

@tonys6601 6 дней назад

The Tesla casting is very cheap, about £500 UK. To fit it, involves so many hours it isn't worth repairing.

@mountainadventures7346 14 дней назад

I think the external parts of the car should be tough plastic.

@castletown999 15 дней назад

I would hae thought Tesla would buy back the bent casting for recycling. After all, they know exactly what it is made of and could just throw it back in the melt for a new car.

@rodmitchell831 16 дней назад

Go get em Sam

@levenkay4468 15 дней назад

I wonder if there's a market for cars assembled from a new Gigacasting set, and a collection of major components (battery, motors, electronics) salvaged from low-mileage wrecks? Would people buy such a "recycled" car for, say, one third the price of new?

@nickreid5297 15 дней назад

OK, but if it's possible to repair a car, the manufacturer should be required to supply the spare parts in a reasonable time. In Australia, for instance, manufacturers who want to sell in our market should be obliged to keep a warehouse of parts in Australia--and not make people wait for parts shipped in from overseas. Too many EVs here are being written off because the parts can't be sourced. And we are all paying more for insurance. If an ICE vehicle runs into an EV, the ICE vehicle's insurer has to pay for an unnecessary write-off; and insurance premiums for all ICE vehicles rise as a result.

@paulhill182 15 дней назад

Follow the money. Who does GigiCastings (as apposed to sheet metal build-up) hurt. 1) Unions (less labor per car), stamp parts suppliers, people who hate change, and Tesla's competitors. In some cases stock holders are unhappy since it requires their companies to spend capital $ for new, expensive, equipment and to hire new technical talent.