What's going on with the new Superman suit? 

My ex was a costume designer for marvel and she explained why they all use that fabric. It’s like very technical but mostly comes down to “looks good on camera” “doesn’t suck to wear”

The color is bright, the torso is battle damaged, if you look at the chest you can see it, if you look at the legs you can see the actual blue

I think it is definitely bright. It's just filled with dirt and damage. The legs as you can see are pretty bright.

I think they put the lines and texture in modern costumes because otherwise they read as Walmart pajamas.

The fact that Superman is unhurriedly putting his red wellies on one by one while sitting in an armchair like a dad with a bad back, while Metropolis is being fried, is so peak Gunn.

SUPERMAN With a - Long ass cape? - Hair Curl? - RED TRUNKS? - Collar? - Looks homemade? Not big on the lines but everything else makes this suit 100% GREAT!!!

James Gunn has said this film is about Superman dealing with the balance of his Kryptonian and Earth heritage. I feel the suit is his "Kryptonian" suit. But by the end of the film, he'll get something closer to the edit as he realizes he's both Human and Kryptonian. Keeps the colors, but softens out the suit to match humanity. Changing the S. I think this suit is OK, it doesn't feel iconic, though.

It's amazing how much people are inferring simply from costume design. I guess people don't have much else to talk about at the moment.

Honestly, I think we just need to see it in daylight without the battle damage. That honestly should have been the reveal rather than this

My guess is that this suit is a Kryptonian military uniform. The colar, the way the cape atatches, the material of the suit, and the wrinkles at the shoulders make me think that this is the suit worn by the Kryptonian military. Similar to what the classic version of General Zod wore

I was honestly expecting the line “Not to belabor the Snyder thing” to be followed by “not unlike my podcast,’belaboring the Snyder thing’ ”

I’ve seen theories that this will be sort of a reverse Kingdom Come story. It will be about rejecting the modern “realistic”/ less hopeful superhero trajectory and by the end, David will be wearing a much more classic looking suit

I’m pretty sure this is going to represent the theme of “legacy” and how it feels like a burden. Then he’ll get a more classic look by the end when he decides what kind of hero he wants to be

Well the cape attached to shoulder stands out because of the collar. So it's basically like new 52, forrnitee, and DACU Injustice movie.

I think the texture is really just about how I doubt like casual audiences could take anyone seriously if they looked like they were wearing pajamas, personally I would love very bright and solid colours but I can see how they wouldnt look on camera and casual audiences just wouldnt like em

The lines and collar are from the new 52. This suit is an amalgamation of different Superman suits.

I agree that this suit could’ve been made on Krypton maybe as a military uniform and that could explain the collar and more authoritarian look. Then either at the end of this movie or in a different movie later down the line he wears a more traditional suit that pays homage to this suit while also combining it with a more friendly, simplistic look that’s more welcoming to the people of Earth. He combines his Kryptonian heritage with what he’s learned about humanity while being raised on Earth. Then maybe Supergirl goes through a similar costume transformation after she sees how her cousin adopts the customs and traditions of Earth and how humanity accepts them as heroes. I think it fits nicely with the idea of legacy that this movie’s going for and would be a good visual representation of the journey Superman might go on in the film.

It does feel slightly over designed. Like it's taken the best from all versions of costumes

Also one practical reason against the collar.. it's going to stick out from under Clark's shirt 😅. A low neckline costume is much easier to cover.

looks like a what a space cop uniform would wear.

I think you’re right that this isn’t gonna be the only Superman suit you see in this movie. I wouldn’t be shocked if this is deliberately made to resemble a more modern Superhero suit, and by the end of the movie you see him don a much more simple, iconic Superman design to parallel the rumored “reverse Kingdom Come” arc of the movie where it is very much about transitioning from that modern, edgier, militant age of heroes into a more classic, optimistic, and simple one

years ago, a friend of mine described the textured look on Tobey Maguire's Spider-Man suit as "made of basketballs" and I've never been able to unsee that. It still applies here.

The geometrical lines going around Superman's costume doesn't fit him. It makes it look complicated which is like, the antithesis to Superman's costume.

people just cant accept that n52 looks good when there is no little devil whispering in your ears that it's not like the typical superman suit

This movie is going to be a very introspective one, not just on the nature of the superhero but for Clark himself. Who he is, who he wants to be, how he sees himself and his own existence, what he wants the new wave of heroes in his wake to look like. So it seems given that Gunn is going to have his exploratory innerward character arc be the main focus even moreso than his other work, and once he reaches his conclusion by the end of the film (even if not a conclusive or permanent one) it seems very likely he's going to switch to something much more simple.

I've been saying the collar makes him look too military/ like a cop for ages, thank you for agreeing. Superman should not look like a cop, he should look like your friend.

I do think this suit is brighter when it isn’t battle damaged, and agree generally on the Snyder suit, with one exception. The one major advantage of the Snyder suit is how the cape attaches to the suit. The way it folds and gracefully attaches to a clearly designed mounting point just tickles the brain. Looks gorgeous in flight, best the cape has ever looked by a million miles.

My only complaint with the suit is it looks almost loose on him. Idk if that's just the ankle or its cuz he's sitting.

i love the new 52 inspired suit. bringing back the neck collar is a huge win.

My reaction "hmm, I'm not against it, but it doesn't quite look right..." glad to hear you kind of identify why it feels a little off for me. Saw enough posts loving it to wonder if I was crazy.

Not just the costume but the tone of the photo itself is strangely off putting to me. Say what you will about the Fantastic Four cast but at least that Valentine's Day announcement photo (which was also sort of a costume reveal) actually seemed to match the expected tone of the movie or its setting or characters. The tone of this Superman picture though just seems so conflicting with everything we had been hearing. Normally there'd be nothing wrong with that, but in this case it invites obvious comparisons to Snyder's take on the character's first outing.

I’ve heard a lot of people comment that they’re surprised his suits isn’t brighter. I think that this is a very interesting image. While his suit is primarily darkened by shadows and some obvious battle-wear, there are very obvious hints towards the image so many of us have in our minds. The colors behind Kal paint the sky with shades of purple and green. Commonly associated with villains across comic book lines, these secondary colors are also closely aligned with Green Lanterns (confirmed to be in the movie) and Lex Luther (ditto) Meanwhile, our hero is getting dressed for work as any other person on this planet might on any given day. He’s got clear signs of many hours logged, this suit is far from fresh off the rack. Yet… as he slips on his red boots, the scarlet shows brightly with just a glimpse of the cheerful & friendly blue of his suit-leg. A sign of his underlying purity and the hop he brings those who see his colors blur across the sky Love the 2nd channel Nando! Not to nitpick, not unlike your podcast Mostly Nitpicking, it would be cool to see videos or clips of you and the gents doing the podcast. Thanks for all the great work!

It’s not an ideal costume for sure, I think the texture lines are a bit unnecessary, but I’ve always been a rare Superman collar truther. I don’t know what it is in particular, I wasn’t a huge fan of New 52 Superman overall, and ironically even in a lot of his stories they forget the collar, depending on the artist. But I’ve always liked it. It’s definitely part of the desire to do something different with the costume, a change that feels very significant to make it clear that this is a new universe and a new version of the character. Maybe that’s why I think it works here, too, to contrast with Cavil. But I do like the way it makes the suit feel more snug and more like a costume, since I tend to see the existence of the costume as a very deliberate choice by Clark to let people see that he’s there to help. It works less in the New 52 where Batman was on the scene before Clark was, but I think it could work here. But that’s just my two cents, I know I’m in the minority by a lot here

I've heard the theory that the Kingdom Come influence on this movie is gonna be a reverse Kingdom Come: where the current heroes are militarised and cynical and then Superman arrives and ushers the world into a Golden Age of Heroism. With this in mind, it's possible that this suit is the one Superman wears initially to conform to that darker era, but later he goes to a simpler version as part of making a statement.

It's a very MCU costume, where costumes have some thickness to them kinda like captain America, probably heavily inspired since Gunn was a big part of the mcu for so long and the GotG costumes are so good and follow that same line

I think the collar and the boots can have another non authoritarian meaning, Superman is putting on his boots even in a time of peril in this photo, and I think the collar and him putting on his boots even in distress can give him the interpretation of being a symbol of a working man, no matter how bleak the situation is, Superman is still suiting up to fight

It looks to me that the picture is taken at a point in Superman's day when he's been through ordeal after ordeal trying to keep Metropolis safe, flying through burning buildings, stopping muggings, saving kittens, battling androids and what not, and he's just returned home, suit covered in the debris, ready to kick the boots off... and now Solaris has come down from the sky, blasting the city. And already, it's time to suck it up, put the boots back on and fly back out there. I think the film may be humanising the responsibility Superman has, in a way that's very much akin to characters like Spider-Man. This picture, to me, indicates that the film will be, at least in part, about Superman coming to terms with the immense responsibility on his shoulders and adjusting to the many demands on his time, which I think makes sense, given that the film is very much about Superman in his early days, grappling with his Kryptonian legacy, reconciling it with his place on Earth and discovering what it means to be Superman.

I absolutely hate the texture. Also if I were the actor and got as jacked as David has for the role and then they made the suit so loose fitting I’d be like really?!

The costume looks bright af. So many people are being confused by lighting and dirt. It’s weird

The only thing that I cannot live with is the top. It makes him look like a NASCAR driver. I expect to see logos all over the place.

Not to nitpick, but if I had a complaint, it'd be the fabric bunching up in the shoulder makes it seem like it doesn't fits him quite right, and the cuffs look rather thick, almost like armored paneling, or light gauntlets. But in all honesty, I'll just wait to see it in action.

I don’t hate this costume but I definitely think that Super Man is one of the few characters that only really makes sense to be in skin tight spandex. It’s pretty much Sups, The Flash, Spider-Man and the Fantastic 4 that should keep it skin tight. Honestly the thinner Super Man’s suit is the more clearly his invulnerability reads.

Point blank the Cavil suit is better.

I generally don't mind the lines, but I don't think they really work here. They generally go on skintight suits (I always figured the point was to break up what would otherwise be a full skinsuit), but here his suit is clearly fabric so it just looks clunky. With the way it bunches up at the shoulders, to me it kinda looks like he's wearing a Henry Cavill Superman Halloween costume. I'm ready to be won over by it when we get a better look at it, but I will need to be won over.

I think you hit the nail on the head with ‘battle armor’; it’s meant to be a flexible but highly resistant material.

Every single take you’ve said in this video are the exact ones i have. I feel so seen lol

I like visions look in the mcu because he is a android specifically a synthezoid so that looks great to me

I really like the fact that it looks like a costume. Not some weird form fitting thing. Like, I know it’s accurate to be a perfect skin tight suit, but I prefer when it feels like a tangible object

In some versions the superman suit is Ma Kent making it from the blanket that baby clark was wrapped in. I always liked the origin of suit being Ma Kent making it from Lara's blanked wrapped on clark. It makes his suit much like him a product of krypton and kansas alike.

Looks derivative of Snyder's. Not understanding why he's getting ready so slow when it's iconic he can get ready at superspeed.

I'll gladly defend the lined/textured suits as opposed to a leotard look. I don't want my superheroes looking like they hit up Spirit Halloween as they're only costuming source. It looks cheap. Don't get me wrong- a suit can be cheap and look fantastic, but if you're going to save the world, spend more than $30 on the suit, please. A leotard or even spandex should also be very fragile to the sort of paces it would be put through in a fight. The simple Superman suit that his mom made for him should be torn to shreds if he gets put through a wall or gets shot up. Superman is bulletproof; spandex is not. Textured suits at least look like armor that can take a hit.

Sorta makes me instantly worried about this interpretation. nonchalantly focusing on the suit while people are dying is… a take. I won’t jump to conclusions from a teaser image but it wasn’t exactly what I expected. The suit looks great tho.

Controversial but I actually like the suit, Reeves suit. Whilst is super accurate and great for the time just would look a bit cheap in a £300m+ film

This is basically the Supergirl Tyler Hoechlin Superman suit ,From the boots to the cape. The Superman & Lois suit is probably the best Superman suit to date and the original Cavill costume minus the muted color.

I was waiting for this since I saw the trunks. I do hope that in different lighting it looks bright and bolder, the colors and art in All-Star Superman is my favorite version of the Superman visual style.

Honestly, while ig the picture kinda shows off like a day in the life of Superman, it sucks at showing the suit off. Gunn and Dc need to release a pic of him in just the classic fist on the hips, cape flowing in the wind picture to really show off the suit and corenswet.

There are other ways to break up the blue in the suit without the goofiness of trunks. And the New 52esque collar...they should have just gone with the open neck, especially if they are using trunks. Oh well, it is what it is. One thing is certain, they better get the story on point or this movie will sink like an anchor.

My brain reads things as symbolic so I'm reading this image like his top half is covered in soot because he's dealing with a huge problem but his feet and legs are pristine as if to say this Superman has his feet firmly planted in the bright, hopeful, better tomorrow idealism Supes' has been sorely missing on the silver screen

I imagine the collar will make a really clean line as well for the vfx artists. Its clean and distinct, good for crops, face/body swaps, etc. We all know how much directors lean on the vfx team for suits. Just my thoughts.

You really dont think the Vision in the Halloween ass onesie looks silly? I get that maybe some modern costumes are overdesigned but even if we are talking about wrestlers and drag queens who are both famous for their love of leotards, any modern iteration gets critiqued very harshly if they where a completely plain one with no additions, patterns, or designs on it. It is just too plain for almost any character or circumstance imho.

I kind of feel the same way, one thing you didn't really mentioned is it looks kind of baggy or ill fitting. Might just be because he's leaned over sitting down, but it just looks a bit clunky looking.

I kinda wanted Superman’s costume to be made by Ma Kent, to really drive home that Superman doesn’t need extravagant clothing, or fancy padding… just the hand-stitched love of his mother. It would have served as a testament to the lovable wholesome farm boy that Superman’s always been. At least they embraced the red shorts. I’ve also never been a fan of the New 52 Superman costume. It (like the overworked hyper-detailed MCU costumes) suffers from excessive line-work, and the collar almost militarizes the costume. That’s why the collar works for Injustice Superman, or Soviet Superman. Having no collar, the campy red undies, the bold logo, and the simple fabrics is what helps make Superman so endearing just to look at. It adds a layer of (physical) humility to one of the most humble and wholesome superheroes. Going for excessive line-work detail, and giving it the look of being thick/padded was a very unfortunate choice that they made. Oh well. I just hope it looks better when we see more of it later on.

OMG .. seriously, I am 62 years old and I have been a fan of Superman since I was 7 and this amount of fuss about the SUIT stuns me … really . Give me a great story and some awesome flight scenes and I am good !! I don’t get this amount of attention to the suit wow 🤯

Nando its time for more Marvel Snap! Come on I need to know about all these new characters like Blink, Nocturne, and Sasquatch who I don't know about!

Why not? The funny thing is that Superman fans never question why Superman needs a cape.

People aren't getting the bigger picture. He got this suit from Krypton, so it looks futuristic and bulky and has an alien symbol. This Supe will definitely get a suit made by Ma Kent in like the third act. A simple, more traditional, one with a very clearly S symbol. He may be a Kryptonian, but he's his mom's son first.

I think the best way to explain / design Clark’s costume in universe is for the Kent’s to like old strongman performances. Just make the implicit inspirations explicit lol.

I have theory that this suit is created by Mr Terrific to harken back to his Kryptonian heritage. That is probably why it looks a bit techy and militaristic. I like the boots, colour scheme and the velvety cape.

I hate the new "S". I know the character has used it in several times. Even the Infinite Earth's one. But I still hate it. Thank God Superman and Lois went with the traditional "S" because that costume is chef's kiss.

When I first saw the suit I wasn’t sure how to feel about it but it’s grown on me a bit. I think my main issue is that it looks a bit baggier than I would’ve liked but other than that I don’t mind it.

As a avid trunks hater for every character ever... I think it's fine.

Giving me Monel vibes with the collar and cape

Hearing so many similar things to when THE BATMAN suit came out at first

The whole shot is definitely giving Laundry Day. There’s a Superman fan film called “Laundry Day” on youtube you can look it up.

I agree completely on the collar but I absolutely loved the look of the Cape and the way it attached to the suit

Maybe I’m in the minority on this but I think it looks kind of perfect? Like it’s a perfect fusion of his more modern looks like the Snyderverse and New 52 versions with the more traditional aspects from the classic comics and Reeves movies. The boots are great. Trunks are a win. Hair looks good. I like the collar, tbh. If this IS like the suit he gets from maybe his dad, then it makes sense it would be slightly more formal with the collar since it’s Kryptonian. But the highest praise I can say is that when I first saw this image out of context, I thought it was just REALLY good fan art, and to me that is a good sign for any adaptation.

It's becoming apparent that Gunn has gone for an image with a bunch of easter eggs, which has gone over everyone's heads. It's a shame that he didn't go for a simple reveal to start with, but I'm still hoping it all falls into place by the time the movie comes out.

I don't like the new 52 collar but not just because it's a collar. I don't like them bc every hero had the same collar and the same physique and the same face and it felt very uninspired. Here there's barely a collar, it makes it feel more like a top than a body suit

take the cape out, take the chest logo out and change it to a star and you got Captain America's suit lol

I hope your Solaris theory is right. An evil sun is something James Gunn would use.

While I am not a huge fan of the suit design, I don't think it's a bad suit. I like how it still looks like a Superman suit and the colors fit with the suit. IF I could put on my Nando Rewrite helmet, I would have this be the suit Clark wears at the the beginning of the movie. Since James Gunn has confirmed that superheroes have already been around in this universe with Hawkgirl, Green Lantern, and Mr. Terrific being in the movie, what Clark does is take influence from these other heroes and make his suit more uniform-based. It shows that he sees being a superhero as the equivalent to being a solider. He has his heart in the right place, but doesn't fully grasp the idea of being a superhero. What could also be the case, as Nando said, that the suit is Kryptonian and could be a sort of military design. This could also be part of Clark's character arc of trying to honor both is Earth and Kryptian heritage. He doesn't really know how to honor them both, or feel ashamed of being an alien on Earth. Then towards the end of the movie, when he is fulfilling his arc, Clark modifies the costume to make it more simple and less like a uniform. He could even modify the emblem to look more like the traditional one as way to honor his birth home of Krypton and his upbringing on Earth; being the bridge of two worlds, a symbol of a better future.

What if the costume was made by Maxwell Lord, who gives all of the other heroes (GL, Metamorpho, etc.) their costumes. This one could be based on one that Martha made for him in his first years as Superman. The new suit could be meta for modern MCU style suits that Clark rejects in the end of the film for his original.

I heard that the costume texture works better with camera focusing, lighting etc. Not sure if that’s correct but sounds plausible. Personally, I like the traditional Reeve version but understand the need to do something new. I think the collar could be a wink to Supes being a ‘blue collar’ farm boy…? 🤔

It should have been tights.

Reminds me of the injustice sups

I dont't know what people are complaining about in terms of the suit not being skin tight. It is when he stands. I'm impressed that a Superhero movie has a suit with no padding. I don't like the collar. My only thought is that it evokes the idea of a young Superman on general audiences? It's comprimise to get a certain segment on board for the movie? Maybe? I'm sure we will get multiple suits in the franchise. I wish I loved it though.

for me the suit looked like something anyone can buy at a motorsports shop, nothing special by the government , not home made or krypton made. Which explains how thick it is.

People saying, “Maybe he’ll get a more classic look later,” and me when I saw this saying, “Wow! That’s a great suit! Finally we have a more faithful suit in a movie!” 😂 I think the collar is a bit of a silly thing to get hung up on. It’s barely even there since it doesn’t go that high up his neck. Idk, I wouldn’t mind if this WAS his suit!

I think he’ll combine a Krypton and a Homemade suit to make his official Superman suit

I think he was going for the grant Morrison cape relaxed look and I’m 90% satisfied with the look although I wish it was a little more saturated and spandexy but I think we are going to be in for a treat.

I can see this picture as a part of a montage of clips when they’re trying to show his everyday superheroing.

Everybody’s gonna eat crow when the costume is great showing him standing up

It’s exactly what I expected from a James Gunn Superman.

He looks like a universal multi planetary cop

I'm hoping it's just dirty and that's what's muting the colors. The lower area around the knees and boots do look more vibrant.

James eventually changed the guardians suits so i think he’ll take the same approach.

A big part of this film, and James Gunn's style in general is world building. I bet this suit is by Star Labs. Good way to introduce the entity of Star Labs early, as it will likely be featured in other films. Logically this would make a lot of sense.

The lines are there to imitate the physique of a comic book character. It's the same reason a lot of these suits have fake muscles (and fake tits for the women), comic book characters are not particularly realistic and it takes an immense amount of work for an actor to get something even approaching that kind of physique, and many don't want to or simply can't. The lines on the suit trick your brain into thinking they're more jacked than they actually are, which is important for adapting source material where even the non-martial characters are insanely muscular. Also, it should be remembered that this is a technique used all the time in comic books, too. The reason why Spiderman's suit is designed in that t-shaped pattern is to present an exaggerated form of the male physique.

Yay! Testing someone with the trunks was my comment! It’s like he’s Witnessed Me.

He could wear a black suit and a mullet for all I care. I just want the character to be written well.