What's in the Black Box? - Kingdom Hearts Explanation and Theory 

An embarrassing photo of spongebob at the Christmas party.

Luxu: Make sure to hide it very well! Brain: YARR HARR, X MARKS THE SPOT!

With 4 darknesses stuck in Data Daybreak Town, could we see more of a further callback to symbolism with 4 horseman of the apocalypse when the box is opened?

It's Walt Disney's heart. When it opens in Kingdom Hearts 4, he will rise from the dead and begin his reign over the Earth.

_Union X_ has convinced me that the Black Box is the “waypoint” mentioned by the Master of Masters. He plans to travel to the distant future (the present of our heroes), and arrive inside the Black Box. ^ But in order to do that, he needs Luxu (who has memories of MoM) and the No Name keyblade gifted to him (a medium containing MoM’s “gazing eye”). And for sure, MoM’s true name will be derived from _superbia,_ Latin for “pride”.

I was chatting with some friends a week ago and this exact theory just popped into my head while we were discussing some KH lore. That data daybreak town was in the box, and idk how to describe it but it made so much sense. I also had another few theories I was thinking over, however I prefer the data being in the box one given all the evidence you gathered supporting it that I missed.

new Damo theory just dropped!!!! so cohesive, thought out, and compelling. also happy belated birthday!!

I think Maleficent may be wrong about the black box appearing after the Keyblade War, since that timeline's version of her time traveled before the war even took place. So she may be banking on a notion she is unaware has already passed. But she does at least know of the box's destined disappearance and reappearance, so she may learn more in KH4, and find someway, or be led by Darkness, to thwart the ranks of Yen Sid and the Lights, to find a way to get to someone who knows how to get to the box.

Counter theory: The box contains the MoM's Chirithy. The original Chirithy. All of the Foretellers had one so why shouldn't he? 1. As it would remember its master as well as his apprentices, it makes a good destination point for time travel, which requires someone at the destination coordinates who remembers the traveler. 2. The box stops existing until after the end of KH3 using the Chirithy's ability to appear and disappear at will. (Presumably into the Sleeping Worlds) This explains why it cannot be found. 3. As the Chirithy would have always been by the MoM's side since it was created, it would naturally know all sorts of lore from before the 1st keyblade war and have full knowledge of the book of prophecies. 4. It is the "hope" in the since that it is the only way to summon the MoM and the Foretellers into a time after the Keyblade War, and thus their only means to survive it.

You’ve done it again Damo. I’m convinced at this point that you’re reading over Nomura’s shoulder! It makes so much sense!

Inside the box is... Sora's invitation to join Smash.

The wait for KH4 is on and we still don’t know what’s in the Black Box, meaning whatever’s inside is HUGE

I've been operating under this assumption for awhile since the UX finale dropped and if we do assume it is data daybreak town in the box it would also explain why the Chirities had the ability to protect their wielders heart by storing it within themselves, after all they were created by the MoM so it must tie into his plan in someway, because of this I've been thinking that it may be that the data within the box could be used in the same way as shown for how Roxas returns in KH3, by using the data of the individuals stored within the digital space to prepare the bodies/replicas for the ancient wielders.

My boy Damo out here laying the real shit down! Keep it up bro Damo!!

To call someone back you need what again, a person that remembers you and an item of importance to the person? Did Luxu have anything from the Foretellers, or is it is the box or is the box as it would be an entire world in this case.

My thought is that it must be related to the Master of Masters. I even thought when seeing the cutscene for first time that it might be the Master of Masters' heart or actual body (if corpse can actually exist in the Kingdom Hearts universe or they simply vanish upon death in most cases unless becoming nobodies). I mainly just want any excuse to hear more of Ray Chase as much as possible.

When you mentioned the X mark's the spot and the crossroads it made me think of crossroads demon deals. Burying a small offering to summon a demon to make a bargain. Let's potentially apply that concept to this.

Holy crap, all this time I thought it would be a vessel, an eye, a heart, an artifact It's a backup. This fits so well. I think you nailed it. Love these videos Damo. Thank you.

Maybe this is some Inception levels of complex. Maybe the box also had a data version of the Graveyard, and it was literally buried in that Data, probably by Brain. The reason the Box can’t be found prior to the Keyblade War was because it would only reappear after a Nexus, or repeat, of a significant event, like the Keyblade War. Knowing where the Box would be at all times, the Master put Xeanort on the path of recreating the Keyblade War, just so the Box can reappear for Luxu to take back

Amazing Video :) Did A Brilliant Job With This Video :) Same With Your Other Videos :) Never Had The Idea That The Black Box Might Contain Data Daybreak Town :) Thank You So Much For Making This Video, Made My Day And Gave Me A Different Perspective On The Black Box :)

"Nothing. Nothing at all." "But why?!" "You'll see."

X marks the spot???? Oh my gosh why didn't that click before!!! I'm laughing hysterically at that realization.

I completely forgot, the evil queen in snow white was all about having hearts in boxes, and then the person carrying the box didn't have it in him to put snow white's heart in it so he put a different heart in there. I wonder if that traditional fairytale hints to what is in this KH box and if it's why Malificent is so drawn to it.. perhaps the most purest heart of all

Okay there's no way your theory is wrong. I think you nailed it right on the head!

Great video, I agree with the points of the Box containing a backup/server for DDBT but Xigbar's whole search arc seemed a little weird for me. Why would he need to enlist Luxord and Vexen to try and find it if he suddenly knew its location? whether it is in the KBG or any other place, also the fact that the scene where he recovers The Master of Masters Keyblade from the KBG after Xehanort's defeat, shows rhat he already had the box by that point could mean that the box was somewhere else and he just returned to the KBG for the Keyblade He is even shown grabbing the keyblade that just fell from the sky, so it would mean this happened pretty much instantly after Xehanort's defeat (probably even before Sora and the gang returned from Scala inside KH) so if by that point he already had the box meant that it didn't take him long to retrieve it (assuming he went and got it after he "died" during the labyrinth battles, knowing that Xehanort would soon fall) As for the master's goal, I think that's where Quadratum comes in place, being a world outside the nornal KH universe the laws of Light and Darkness would work different so maybe all of this was set up as a way to prepare a setting where the darknesses could be definitely destroyed without allowing them to come back (something like the marvel comics where if you take the infinity gems outside their home universe they become useless) MoM locked darknesses fragments among the apprentices hearts and his own as a way to gain time until the future where they could be defeated comes into existence and someone who can destroy them appears, AKA our boy Sora who has learned to wield light, fight darkness and now will have to learn to fight in this new universe (also the "powers" or light and darkness not existing in Quadratum serves an in universe explanation to whu Sora would be Lvl1 again in KH4, on top of the whole "you'll lose your powers after breaking the Nature Taboo" which at least during his battle with Yozora he still had them)

Thank you for your hard work and this excellent video Damo!

Wouldn't it be interesting if the Black Box contained a full data copy of the ENTIRE REALM OF LIGHT as it originally was in the Age of Fairytales? Data Daybreak Town included? That would be an interesting interpretation of Hope.

Great job! I created a RU-vid video of the black box a few days ago.

At 18:13, am I not remembering something? When do you play as Ephemer with Donald and Goofy? Which game is this in? It looks like it's KH3 from the game play and graphics

The real question it's not whats inside the box but why there is a box and why Mom disapeared to get a clue about the box. Moms plans were always about whats AFTER the keyblade war, but is just when we finish the game when he and the box comes back. From here there can be some theories that i myself have but cant garantee what possibility will be.

Braig = Brain = Luxu // The contents of the box are the Master's of Master's body, which you have to leave behind in order to time travel.

For some reason, Luxord is the biggest mystery to me. That, and who the "third" heart is in Sora mentioned in KH3, since we know that Ventus and Roxas were two, but Xion, Kairi, etc were not in Sora's heart. So who's the third? KH3 mentions it as kind of a throwaway line (which means it's not...) but we are never given an answer to that, not even when Sora is diving through hearts left and right. 7:05 - I mean, MoM could also have spoken to her. We already know he has the capacity to manifest, considering he spoke with Young Xehanort 75 years ago, and obviously still live at this time. 9:00 - Is another mystery to me. Marluxia/Larium and Larxine were both in Union Cross, with Larium being a Union Leader. But why is Dimyx there? What "ancient Keyblade legacy slumbers within" him? Have we seen his original self in Union Cross? Yet another "throwaway" line that likely isn't. And, again, Luxord is one of the four in that scene as well. Though I don't recall ANYONE who was like Luxord in Union Cross. He has a pretty unique muscular build, so unless he was Ira or something... 13:00 - I have an issue with it being Darkness that put Malificient up to finding the Black Box. The main reason I say this is that PETE describes the person that told her as "that bozo in the black coat", right? Pete was not with her in the past. The implication of Pete saying this is that he was present, or at least nearby/close enough to see her talking with someone in a black cloak before she set out searching for the Box. So it can't have been the Darkness of the past while she was in Union Cross, since Pete wasn't present then to witness those conversations, right? 14:05 - Pandora's Box, confirmed...? But it can't be, because they DID find that one, and left it in Olympus because it wasn't the right box... 14:52 - Ironically, the flight recorder on a plane was what I was thinking of with all these mentions of "Black Box", since there seems to be _A_ Black Box (or something similar) all across the multiverse. Made me think of the airplane recorders. Funny you should mention that here as well as me thinking about it... 15:30 - Backup...data? Like...a Data WORLD or people's backups? His Cloud/Hard Drive backup of the Union members' data? o.O 16:30 - Heh, minds think alike, I suppose? :) 21:30 - Well, keep in mind, Luxu IS "The Traitor". He might have eventually opened it, or considers doing so. 22:25 - Why would it create destruction? 24:05 - "And X never - EVER - marks the spot." "X...marks the spot. /shy shrug" - Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade . As with your other video (on both the Brains being Brains), an interesting theory. As always with Kingdom Hearts, you're probably partially right...and somehow completely wrong at the same time. XD I don't know how many KH theories I've had or others have had over time that simultaneously were KIND OF true, and yet also COMPLETELY (more or less) wrong, paradoxically, at the SAME time. :D I guess we'll find out! Well...eventually.......

I like the theory you came up with but what if they brought back pirates for a reason... The Dead Man's Chest, also known as the chest of Davy Jones was a chest of unknown origin which contained the still-beating heart of Davy Jones. Maybe its the Master's heart, or Luxus, certainly someone's

These are interesting points The X! That's amazing!

What if MoM put data Daybreak in the box so that they could revive all the old Keyblade users, perhaps by using the now perfected replicas that Vexen made in KH3?

Man...I wish I cared like I use to. I was such a die hard fan but God I just don't care anymore it's all so convoluted for no good reason. I hope it all pays off for those who are still in there.

If you’re right I’d say that all of sora’s story take place inside box because SORA technically died but was brought back, I think what’s in the black box is data and just data of all of kh

The box probably is a that "afterlife" world we saw in kingdom hearts 4 trailer, as it seems like everyone who died is in this box including Stella and the MoM himself.... The idea for re-coded is interesting though, but the data characters don't have any physical forms so I'm not sure how they would be digitized and given new body's that way....

What if sora himself is in the box. As a gateway to unreality he is now trapped there.

*what's in the black box, turn out the liiiiight, something something i don't know the words, the shower of lies feels sooo gooooooooood*

Isn't Braig and Brain one letter apart? Is that coincidence, or does that more connect Xigbar/Luxu and Brain?

Idk why, but I have a feeling that Luxord’s somebody might get revealed in Dark Road as one of the upper class men. He’s been searching for the box so that he can uncover the truth of the past. But that’s just out of the blue speculation. Luxu May not be the only body snatcher.

Another meaning for 'black box': Something which works but you don't know how. Used in both programming and in certain high-security projects. Here's another suggestion of where it might have been. What if it was INSIDE of Kingdom Hearts? No safer place. 'Locking' KH could have released it, like gummies fell out in the first game.

I have theory here after last listening to this video what if just maybe there two requirements to open the box 1: the clash of 13 darknesses and lights 2: you need the master of masters key blade to open of the box or the creation of the x blade of the x blade to bring the box into reality Just a theory though If what damo said about the box not being in the timeline yet that we were in this makes since then this begs the question what's in the box ?

A note. "The real light is the friends we made along the way" *Yeet the note and box*

I think its the frozen head of Walt Disney which will finally bring him back and into the game. I just hope they keep his hunger for flesh in check.

Nomura is a sneaky one. He does not need to create lore/Scott as he can just use fan theories to explain everything in kh

how do you stay to all this now after the Dark Road ending? Seeing That Luxu can take faces from others somehow in taking over Briar or how he was spelled? XD

This is Overlord, and yes that box is where I keep all my stuff

I'm a little disappointed that no matter what you do, darkness overtakes light, then it's undone, might have been nice to have multiple endings

It’s a body. Sora’s body from a different timeline

This is blowing my mind

Every Single Kingdom Hearts Character IS A REPLICA. Because they all possess Xehanorts Powers. The Book of Prophecies is in the Box, Maleficent will find it first, then Riku will hack into it, because Namine has direct control of Jimineys Journal, which comprises Sora's Memories, then it will become the Date Escape, and act as a waypoint for both Xehanort, Sora, Maleficent, the Foretellers, the Dandelions and all who have ties to them. The box contains HOPE which will require all of the Hearts and Memories that are contained within the Book of Prophecies to complete the REAL SORA's heart. Xehanort is looking for Sora's heart in Melody of Memory. Sora's heart is lost, while Xehanort's Heart returned to him to form his older self.

Mr Burns: You could choose the new collection next where nomura is standing........or trade it for WHAT IS IN THIS BOX Fans: THE BOX THE BOX

if luxu was split into a nobody, then when he reformed at the end of 3 his memories of where the box was would return

It's probably something similar to Pandora's Vox

just as mysterious as the box at the end of FNAF 4

So, I like the idea. However! If the DDB town is safe and stored in the box, how is it that [Player Character] manages to escape the data realm to become Xehanort? If they are in the box, then has the box been opened to release them?

Do you think that the player character canonically joins the unicornis union since it was shown in Quest 977?

The box is the MoM way of time traveling. It’s an item attached to him

Truly we have been blessed

Does that explain the wave of key blades that come to help you in the graveyard ?

the question here is Did Ansem just steal all the tech from daybreak town? how?

Huh honestly I had a similar thought tbh, I like this theory

What's in the box? Kingdom Hearts V, obviously

The Masters of Masters heart is inside the box

also, WHAT IF both Luxu's are the real ones? but, after KH3 Brain was sent to the future scala place like. And without Brain knowing due to Xigbar's death, Brain was sent to both places one after the other

What if instead of Data Daybreak town, it's the exact copy data of MoM?

Black box was in xehanort heart that's why it didn't appear til the end of kh3

Do you think that maybe there’s a data version of the black box?

Want more proof? Xigbar has an eyepatch... like pirate

crazy theory i like it but dies the mom rlly does need that black box? i think there might be another secret plan we might dont know

In the box, it's the smash world

What if how luxu had gotten the box was when xehanort open the gateway to skyla Ed caelum and Lucy was able to sit there and enter the gateway as well and the box was hidden there.

I think the box’s similarity to the pirates box goes farther. The Davy Jones box is how they controlled Davy. What if the black box holds hope, the tool to control ……darkness, the enemy of the master of masters?

"A giant X marks the spot" Not gonna lie, that one BLEW me away!!! So simple, and yet it's its simplicity that makes it believable.

The "X" marks the spot gave me chills. So genius.

As usual, I'm baffled by your ability to make logical sense of this whole mess, and also grateful for your easier to understand explanations and theories. 👍🏼👍🏼

Another box. Then I will put it in another box and smash it with a hammer. It's brilliant, brilliant,

this is the best theory i’ve heard! thanks for mapping it all out Damo, fantastic KH video essay content as usual~

The fact that you used a Goofy Laugh to censor "what's in the the f****** box?!" near the beginning at 1:08 is hilarious!!

I just realized that the use specific renders, shades, and coloring for the same characters depending on what world they are on, Olympus has a more cartoonish intermediate Blender animator look, Toy Box exaggerates the plastic look of things, and Caribbean has photorealistic appearances. I now understand why the game needs to take so long loading into a new world but runs so smoothly and transitions take so little time in said world. The game needs to completely swap out nearly everything graphically per world. I am pretty sure Kingdom Hearts 3 is not the first game to do this; however, it is amazing nonetheless.

What if Luxu turned Brain into a nobody and immediately defeated his heartless and hop into his Nobody until he was ready to hop into another body which would destroy the Nobody and cause Brain to reform

Yooo, nobody is really trying to make KH theory videos anymore. Then here you come out of nowhere with an absolute juicy banger. Bro, thank you. You brought back the chills that I can only get from this beloved series.

Some small additions that I've noticed: A) When Luxu asked the Master about what was in the box, he reacted very surprised if not shocked by the answer. Now, the Digital Daybreak Town alone would not be that surprising an answer, even for Luxu who doesn't know that the memories saved there can be used by the vessels developed in the future to restore the lives of those sacrificed. But according to the plan the Master told Luxu (i.e. not his actual one since that one depends on Luxu reacting in certain ways to his fake one), one of the 13 Sentient Darkness' would be locked up in that Digital World with no apparent means of escape. Therefore, Luxu is shocked at the Master ordering him to carry around a trapped Sentient Darkness to later be opened instead of hiding or destroying it. B) According to the Master of Masters, he does not plan on sacrificing anyone. Now, this gets a bit tricky to interpret since we do not know who he all considers a sacrifice, e.g. do the children turned Darklings which only happened because they served a Union, an institution which he created, sacrifices or does he say they would have fallen to darkness either way once it would have taken over the world? However, assumming he considers the Children who have died in the 1. Key Blade War to be sacrifices, then while we do have Data Versions of them meaning their memories, as well as the possibility of creating replicas for them, we saw their hearts leave for Kingdom Hearts, meaning they would already have been reincarnated as someone new, instead of the Dandilions which we know are stored in the Dream Eaters due to being in a Sleeping Word. C) You were right in that Brain or at least someone who looked like him was the last person we saw with the box. However, we saw him right above the Keyblade Graveyard, meaning it could have been moments before he buried it there, therefore clarifying if it had been opened previously and where it stayed in the mean time. Also, this would still match the description of "having been guarded by Key Blade Wielders through the ages", just in this case dead ones.

Several thoughts: - I have a feeling that the MoM might be who told Maleficent about the box. The use of dingbat as a descriptor would fit his demeanor and being in a black coat, hood down, it could be an easy sell as just another member of NeoOrg. - For some reason, I can't get "I open at the close" (from Harry Potter) out of my head when thinking about the black box. Its way too convenient that it only appears at the end of the game. Possibly linking to how it 'appears' again, maybe it was tied to Xeahnort/darkness losing the prophesied battle OR light expires battle wasn't in KH3, a red herring, and the box's content will lead to the real fight. But what would that say about the masters intent? That he wants darkness to win this fight? - What about the seven crowns mentioned in I think the first part of the KHUX finale, I kinda feel that's whats possibly in the box. - Vibing with the idea of it being a literal black box, maybe it being left in the keyblade graveyard, it was meant to gather the light/darknerss/spirit? of those who passed in the Keyblade War. Assumable that their would have been more people fighting then Dandelion's who escaped so being able to capture them could be a big advantage for a fight against the darkness. Also, would explain how the Foretellers could be summoned back, if they died and are contained within the box, then Luxu could easily just bring them back from it since he knows at the very least what it contains. - Regardless, I think its going to be a Pandora's box situation, theirs so much emphasis on it that from a story writing perspective, it just feels like the best pay off. Especially cause it could be opened by anyone now that its back. - Also, low-key been thinking for a while now that Luxu and MoM aren't on the same side/fighting for the same thing. Which going with my idea earlier, it would make sense that the MoM could have told another party to look for the box and that that would be enough pressure for Luxu to spill the beans and get NeoOrg to look for it too.

So, I'm not sure if anyone else has come up with this, since I haven't seen anything but according to the MOM, he is planning to move forward in time. But to move in time he needs the way point, a vessel, and someone with memories of him. He's using the book as the way point, the keyblade as the vessel, and luxu with the memories of him. What if the box actually contains a way point for every person that has died during the keyblade wars? If that's the case, when he moves in time, he would be there at the keyblade graveyard with the box and if the box is a way point for everyone that died, the keyblades would be the vessels and all the fortellers would be the people with memories of them since all the people that died were part of the unions. He might be planning to use sora to complete his plan of destroying the willful darknesses and after the battle, bring everyone back that died....

No one ever seems to mention Pete's Outfit has the Recusant's Sigil, meaning they've always got tabs on Maleficent's whereabouts too.

your conclusion gave me goosebumps omg it makes so much sense with all of the information given and the hints at what it is.

I'm convinced. It makes a lot of sense that it contains the backup.

So. I have a weird theory regarding Brain and Luxu. Names are important and Kingdom Hearts, I'm recently going through the games again and I've been seeing hints that Luxu was Xigbar all along. I think Xigbar "Braig" is the physical body of Brain and the mind of Luxu, almost like Xehanort and Terra were in one body. It just seems too much of a coincidence that Brain is just one letter removed from Braig, you just have to remove the N and add a G. But you notice that Bragi and Braig are the EXACT same name just with the letters rearranged, and we see that Bragi is in fact Luxu at the end of Dark Road. With Brain saying he'd need more than one lifetime to fix things, I think somehow Luxu gave him that opportunity and "Braig" is in fact Brain's physical form. What COULD be interesting is if Brain has his moments of taking the body and implementing his own agenda and hid the box from Luxu.

never played khx, khux or dark road, but i finally decided to watch all of the cutscenes over the past week, and now your videos make a whole lot more sense to me now! I wish there were more content creators talking about lore and theories the way that you do! you are very logical and straightforward in your approach, you seem to be able to think laterally to connect the pieces together, and overall you seem to have an extremely intuitive understanding of the kh universe! can't wait for more of your vids, and of course can't wait for missing link!

If the mischievous Master of Masters was the original owner of the black box, then the box is probably empty and only exists to promote conflict.

The Box containing Data Daybreak has been by far the most convincing theory for a long time to me, but I never could really explain it - but this video is just it. Oh man this was soo so good! The X marks the spot is so genius, and i never thought about the Box being buried. I really can't wait til we actually know what's in the Box in the end, but I truly hope it is Data Daybreak :D

Another hypothesis is that the box actually contains Quadradum which is a virtual world created by the Master, tailor made to be of neither light nor darkness but where hearts can be alternatively transferred to instead of the final world when perishing. The nameless star and Yozora are data copies of Kairi and Riku (that’s why they share their likenesses) that the Master created after gaining knowledge of their existence through the Book of Prophecy. Yozora was told to save Sora because he was literally programmed to do that but the actual heart residing within Yozora is of another person who we haven’t seen yet. (Possibly KH’s version of Noctis) This could also lead to the denizens of Quadradum actually being the data copies of wielders from the OG Daybreak Town but without the magic of light and darkness ended up turning the world into a more real world modern day setting more focused on technology and the creation of the Gigas. Some elemental magic may still exist based on what we see in the Beat of Lead Toy Story world trailer.

Awesome Video :) Enjoy It From The Beginning To The End, My Theory Was That The Black Box Literally Contain H.O.P.E (Looking Back After Your Video Was That Luxord, Vexen, Maleficent and Pete Went Through So Many Worlds To Find This "Black Box" But What If One Of Them Found The Black Box "How Would The Person Even Open The Box Anyway?". "Wouldn't You Need Some Key Or Keyblade To Open It?" Like You Mention: Both Pete and Maleficent Found Pandora's Chest In KH 3 But They Didn't Open It And Also To Open Dead Man's Chest Was To Get The Key :) Makes Me Think "Wouldn't You Need Something To Open The Black Box?" "Or If You Opened It Would Some Effect Happen To You?" :) (Maybe You Need The No Name Keyblade) :)

This theory is... pretty goddamn good Making sense of kh3 black box scenes in a cohesive and symbolical way, connectin all the mobile games information. I hope you're right even if only to validate a job well done! (would be a pretty cool way for the story to go too)

Damo is back like a sage with enlightened knowledge

I don't even think Nomura knows whats in the box

I think the box contains a copy of the Book of Prophecies that has a different ending. It has the true ending of light prevailing over the darkness since the Master would be able to see the timeline splitting through his Keyblade since it’s in both futures.