MYSTERY GUEST: Horst Bucholtz (actor in the Billy Wilder film "One Two Three" that Arlene had recently appeared in) PANEL: Arlene Francis, Buddy Hackett, Dorothy Kilgallen, Martin Gabel
He and Pamela Tiffin were young lovers in 'One Two Three' which we saw in our annual class party when I was a junior in high school. Neither one emerged as a major star, surprising because of their good looks.
I never knew that he made movies in America. He worked in Germany, perhaps in France (French spouse)... but Hollywood??? Astonishing. Greetings from Germany
Dorothy is so clever. Arlene knew who the mystery guest was right away and passed. When her turn came around again, she was couldn't pass again and asked John what she should do, so Dorothy said, "Ask a question that'll help us." They all worked so well together.
gacj2010 Funny thing then, that Martin Gabel was five years younger than Arlene 😉 Looks are of course something subjective, but I disagree with you here, too. I personally don‘t think that Martin was ugly. As for opportunist, he certainly did introduce her to a whole other group of people, as Arlene said herself in her autobiography, but by the time they got married she already had made quite a career for herself on the stage and in radio, hosting her own radio-show, blind date. Also, I really don‘t think you can call someone an opportunist if they then spend 40 years with that partner. About her first husband, sure, he was quite a bit older than her, but there is a section of the column Dorothy wrote (that predates WML by several years), where she talks about Arlene and how she doesn‘t take any offers where she suspects that her husband (Neil Agnew) might have had something to do with it. arlenefrancisandwhatsmyline.tumblr.com/post/189193500624/it-is-so-funny-reading-something-that-is-obviously
Interesting how often people assume that looks are not only the most important quality, but, really, the ONLY important quality. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Beauty is only skin deep. Ugly, too. Judgemental ....
If I am allowed to comment on Arlene... from Germany and as s. o. who did not know her before watching that show... She is a good looking and very charming, witty, slightly saucy, vivacious , elegant woman. It is great fun to watch her. Mr Gable is a nice, intelligent man, but, sorry, not the outward match for Arlene which you would have expected... But their long marriage proved their harmony eventually, didn't it?
Twice in these episodes I have the irresistible urge to have a pint with Martin Gabel - once when he couldn’t control his excitement at identifying Dorothy as the mystery guest, and another when he patted Buddy on the back for identifying the mushroom picker. He seemed both a genuine and a generous chap.
FlorisX92 REALLY? A pint with that old fuddy-duddy? He's such a 'bank manager' type.Soooo boring. No creativity, no wit, no banter. Dull, dull, deadly dull. WHAT Arlene saw in multi-millionaire Martin Gabel I don't know!! Ha ha!!
Bucholtz was the youngest member of The Magnificent Seven. He said it was HEAVEN for a little German boy to play cowboy! In fact, lots of big stars are like little boys when they get into a Western.
The Germans had an affinity for the American old west and Indians (our natives) in particular. My dad was full (Mom was all white) and when we were stationed off-base in Germany in the early '60s, the older town folk loved talking to him and doing things for him.
Groo Vin8tor - Mostly he stuck to his stand-up comedy persona. Now and then a bit of Buddy came out. Nonetheless, he never held up the progress of the game. He had a kind heart, was bright, and played the game well, so he was welcome.
I have TIGER BAY but it's in another region. I wonder if it could be converted ? Or I'll have to get another player. I'm looking for THE ADVENTURES OF FELIX KRULL with Bucholz.
Tiger Bay has been freeon RU-vid for a long time. WONDERFUL. Hayley said she had a major crush on Horst - he just treated her like the little girl she was.
When Henry Barnes was the traffic commissioner of Denver, he developed "Barnes' Dance." That occurs when all traffic lights at an intersection go red and pedestrians can cross pretty much any way they like, including diagonally. For years, downtown Denver traffic lights had on each corner three pedestrian walk signs -- N-S, E-W, and diagonal.
We had the Barnes Dance here in Baltimore too. Barnes also hated streetcars stating that the only thing wrong with them is that they were in the street.
@@gabrielebader9474 Yes, and they hadn't finished it when East Germany started to build the wall. They had to construct a life-size model of the Brandenburg Gate in order to shoot the last scenes..!
@@gabrielebader9474 Billy Wilder's parody on the situation of the divided Berlin ( before the wall ) was not met with positive feelings in Germany. One paper wrote: " What breaks our heart, Billy Wilder seems to be funny. "
I suspect that, if there had been another 30 seconds or so to spare at the end of the show, John Daly would have corrected Arlene and reminded everyone that the following week's WHAT'S MY LINE? would be pre-empted by a special "Golden Showcase" program: a 1-hour adaptation (by Robert Emmett) of Maxwell Anderson's 1927 play "Saturday's Children." In the cast were Ralph Bellamy, Inger Stevens, Cliff Robertson, Lee Grant, Doro Merande, Katherine Meskill, and Ted Beniades. The play was directed by Tom Donovan and produced by Marshall Jamison. (The executive producer was Leland Hayward.) That's why there is no 25 February 1962 episode in this playlist.
In Germany we had a similar show, but one difference was, the person with the secret gets offered a piggy bank, could chose from different colors and gets for every question he could answer with no a 5 Deutschmark coin into the piggy bank.
"Was bin ich" was a direct copy of "What's my line", even though I think it was inspired by the British version. But the German version didn't have the same wit and charm as the original I think, even though the panel members were just as cultured as their American counterparts.
It appears that Bertha Zema is still alive at 76 years old, and still lives in Cabot, PA (Butler County). That region (along with neighboring Armstrong County) has several mushroom producers.
Buddy Hackett was surprisingly good and serious as a guest on the panel. He stuck to his line of questioning when the audience were laughing at him and probably not with him - about the colour of mushrooms being closer to white than yellow.
Traffic men like Mr. Barnes are of the mind that the more lanes you have and the more roads you build, the better the problem of traffic jams are alleviated. Not so fast, pardner; time has shown that building new highways and widening streets (which often entails destroying entire neighborhoods and more) results in more people and more cars flooding the new avenues and interstates. The old conception of redevelopment and Urban Renewal, which often took away entire districts was a failure in so many ways and deprived people of housing and businesses that had existed for many years.
Joe Postove - You are absolutely right. I've known of entire historic neighborhoods being destroyed in the name of "progress." Even know of residents' attending city council meetings to try to stop planned major thoroughfares being built that crisscrossed and destroyed the cohesiveness of the neighborhoods. Big business always win out and neighborhoods always lose.
One,Two,Three is one of my favorite movies. Arlene Francis, Jimmy Cagney, Horst Buccholz, and Leon Askin, who played Gen. Buchalter in Hogan's Heroes. Horst Buccholz also starred as a terrorist in a version of Raid on Entebee.
Transportation engineering was the field I originally wanted to have as a career. Alas, it was the upper level theoretical physics and calculus courses that did me in. In calculus, the eigenvalues of n-dimensional matrices that had me stymied. And in physics, it was probably that I took Werner Heisenberg too much to heart. We engineers were fond of claiming that at one time he said, "I am certain that I am uncertain." And from that a principle was named after him! So I was never able to help solve the traffic problems in NYC (especially Manhattan) which are still a mess. Sometimes there's even a traffic jam in Harlem that's backed up to Jackson Heights.
YOu need to move to California and you can discuss our freeway problems the way we do. We always have a new twist on how you can avoid freeway problems by finding the best one for the time you want to go somewhere. Or just keep going west on 110 until you just drive off the off ramp into the ocean. There. Problem solved.
Eigenvalues - a function such that inputting a vector results in the same vector times a constant [F(x)=xc] - is a differential equation which would have followed you into physics and with String or n-Bane theory might as well have become n-dimensional.
@@loissimmons6558 Be optimistic. It’s not too late to return to school. Something that amazes me is QM and relativity are over 100 years old but the general public knows little about these fundamental concepts, and worse, some math concepts known for hundreds, maybe thousands of years, are considered too complicated to be taught. Go figure
I just remember Horst Buchholz as the 7th of the Magnificent Seven. He does seem to have a sense of humor, though. That's always nice. Didn't fool Arlene for a minute!!
Buddy Hackett was really one of the brightest panelists in the history of WML. Funny but also a good game player as illustrated by his brilliant solving of the second contestant's line. Technically mushrooms are fungus. I used to show this to my college English classes as an example of technical definitions. Dorothy gets so bogged down in technical definitions of vegetable growing positions that it's pretty funny.
+soulierinvestments ...er, I am somewhat reticent to correct - let's say I'm REMINDING you, shall we ? - that, in your words ( should'a been , anyways ) : TECHNICALLY, MUSHROOMS ARE FUNGI .... how I shudder in hesitation and shiver in satisfaction at my remark to you, the English instructor.
Couldn't have said it better. Just because he plays the "goofy one" doesn't mean you shouldn't take him seriously, he's a comic relief all right, but he's certainly not dumb.
Complicated terms indeed, as mushrooms are not plants botanically; fungi are in a kingdom of their own. In culinary terms they are treated as a vegetable, but the part of common mushrooms that we generally eat is the "fruiting body" from which the spores are dispersed. And of course this is the part that grows above the surface of the soil, despite the misleading answers; otherwise the spores couldn't go anywhere to propagate.
After reading some comments with regard to Buddy Hackett and that he was more intelligent than he appeared to be, I wish I could remember where I saw this, but in an interview he talked about always having trouble sleeping, so he would read a lot. To hear him say that, "mushrooms aren't phototropic" was just awesome. Of course he followed it up with a great line about them "not being photogenic either."
@@philiphalpenny9761 If they didn't get on, it certainly helped their performances, as their characters didn't get on. My favorite line from Cagney: "Put your pants on, Spartacus!"
I'm waiting for TIGAR BAY IN MAIL (DVD) The one I can play in the USA. I haven't seen it since it came out in '59 ? I had the DVD but it was not playable on my player, but would be on another in England .
@@hertzair1186 I got the right one in the mail. It is an excellent movie. Hayley Mills is excellent. It was worth the wait. The director did a great job. Great story.
I have to confess that I've never heard of Horst Bucholtz. He definitely had the looks to be a leading man, so I'm curious why he apparently didn't become a star.
Miss Frances lived a long time and had such a positive drive about her. Even with Alzheimers she probably was delightful. I've worked with Alzheimers residents over 28 years who were very cheerful despite the condition and remained so till the end. My mom was one, I cared for her the last 6 months of her life and she had Alzheimers. They also have very lucid moments from time to time triggered by different activities.
I met Mister Buchholz in 1997 on a television program (morning show). He seemed to be in thought. He was drinking then. He was very well and elegantly dressed. He often turned down good offers of roles and was stubborn in his younger years. The film portrait of his son is very critical. but, he really had charisma.
I can't stand him ever since I heard about that, knowing that Jimmy was one of the nicest, kindest people in the industry. He literally quit acting until "Ragtime" after this experience.
Yes, this is just one of the MANY errors in basic biology that were made routinely on WML over the years. I just posted a brand new clips video compiling dozens of examples like this (and which includes this very segment!) Check it out! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-oPSejh5E7BQ.html
They mention at the end of this segment that it is a fungus. But in terms of food sales in the produce aisle and food preparation, mushrooms are included in the vegetable category. In a similar way, tomatoes are categorized as a vegetable even though in biology terms it is a fruit. (While watching this episode, I just drank some V-8, not a V-7/F-1. The juice is made from tomatoes, carrots, celery, beets, parsley, lettuce, watercress and spinach.)
For now, yes, I'm skipping that show. All I have is the mystery guest segment, which is very short. Another collector sent it to me very recently and I haven't looked at it yet, or checked to see if it's already been posted to RU-vid. I'd rather wait to get the full show if I can find it than upload a clip, and I would never post a clip if I could determine that someone else already posted it.
When Gil Fates's book on WML was published c 1978, he appeared as a guest on “The Tonight Show” starring Johnny Carson. He brought this particular mystery guest clip with him. Really one of the most funny things Carson ever did on WML.
Horst looks like he's about to burst into tears over Arlene's introduction of him. Frankly, I don't know when she had time to get to know him during production. He acted mostly with James Cagney and Pamela Tiffin in 1-2-3. I don't remember his crossing paths with Arlene's character.
Most likely because the entire cast was on location shooting in Berlin. I recall reading that they all stayed in the same hotel/apartment building, or some such. So they basically had production "family" time whilst filming, meals together and touring around.
Horst handed Arlene something as he exited the stage, and then turned back to take it out of her hand. She looked so disappointed. Wonder what it was. A program from "One Two Three?"
According to wikipedia, Horst Bucholtz was offered the role that Omar Sharif ultimately played in "Lawrence of Arabia," but turned it down because he had committed to do "One, Two, Three." For multiple reasons, Sharif was a far better choice for the role and it is all for the better that Buzholtz was unavailable.
NO ONE COULD HAVE DONE IT BETTER THEN OMAR...They use to say when Omar walk or rode onto the screen you could hear panties drop in the theatre! not my quote- Herb Caen I think, when Omar was on screen you could hear sighs
One, Two Three is one of the funniest movies I've seen, and I've seen tons. This was James Cagney's funniest movie. And if you are an anti-communist, this is even funnier, because it's so true.
"But i hate Lenny Bruce" does anyone know the story? And buddy Hackett was a storyteller like Michael Richards was a visual comic. Buddy stuck to it I wish Michael had. He was really funny
@gcjerryusc it is much easier to act like a nice guy for a few minutes on camera than it is to actually be a nice guy. Many celebrities' images are completely different from their reality as people. Not all, but many.
+sweiland75 John Daly was a bit high with his estimate of the NYC population. According to the 1960 census, the NYC population was 7.8 million, down from 7.9 million in 1950. It picked up that lost 100,000 in the 1960's but high crime in the 1970's and suburban flight pushed down the population to about 7.1 million by 1980. Since then the population has increased with every census and the estimate in 2017 was about 8.6 million. There is still usually a net outflow from NYC in terms of moves within the U.S., but the number of immigrants arriving here and settling in NYC more than makes up for it.
I'm assuming the answer is "yes", but can anyone confirm if the goofy way Buddy Hackett spoke, was a put on, and was part of his act the similar way that Jerry Lewis' similar silly voice was a part of his own "act"?
I thought Buchholz also looked somewhat similar to Arnold Schwartzenegger. And when I googled his name, up came a pic of him during his more mature years where he looked as if he was Arnold! (To boot, he's also German. And even though the spelling of his last name was "Americanized" it originally meant 'wooden book" ( ! ), I believe.
As much as I like Horst Buccholz, I've read that James Cagney hated his guts while they were working on the movie they did with Arlene, "One-Two-Three." Horst was purportedly pulling every scene-stealing scene in the book -- as if it were possible for anyone to steal a scene from Cagney! -- and Cagney said he wanted to kick Horst's a--. I believe that's more or less an exact quote.
Omar Gonzalez - I agree. We think that police officers have to make their quota by giving out a certain number of tickets per day. That's why depending upon the time of day you might or might not get a ticket for a specific behavior.
If you watch "One, Two, Three" you see that Arlene and Horst have almost no screen time together at all. So I'm not sure just how well she got to know him.
It's interesting that they don't share the screen so much but no surprise to me that they bonded. They all seem to become like a family these people when they make a movie. I would imagine Arlene was even best mates with the makeup girls and the key grip too. Look at De Niro and Pacino....didn't share the screen over the course of three hours in Godfather II....but the closest of buddies off-camera.
Arlene was very jealous of beautiful women contestants when Martin was a panelist. On the other hand, she was quite flirtatious with the good looking men contestants.
"It's a fungus, but it's part of the vegetable family." No, John. No, it is not. It's a fungus. It's part of the fungus family. The ignorance of John Daly and the regular panelists regarding basic facts of biology never ceases to astound me. Perhaps the most risible example was when Dorothy Kilgallen referred to eggs as a "dairy product."
+Ernie Galvan Very true. "The best known groups of cryptogams are algae, lichens, mosses and ferns, but it also includes non-photosynthetic organisms traditionally classified as plants, such as fungi, slime molds, and bacteria. The classification is now deprecated in Linnaean taxonomy."
+fishhead06 I believe she referred to eggs as a dairy product because they were often delivered by the milk man and are also found in the dairy section of many supermarkets.
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