What's My Line? - Jean Hersholt; Artie Shaw [panel] (Aug 31, 1952) 

Based on hearing him interviewed and reading about him, I am surprised that he even agreed to do this show.

@@rayjr62 he admitted to being too uptight in every part of his life.

Well said Bambi. Those are exactly the aspects that make this programme so compelling as well as fun.

@@rayjr62 I don't know much about Shaw as person , but I've become quite familiar with this music. He was a "rock star" of the day. Need to find out more about him I guess

@@onecake34244 He apparently was an absolutely awful human being, at least to women.

Dorothy, meet your namesake the panelist...

I saw that too. One book is still on Amazon in November, 2022, the one about the otter. It looks like the other books may yet be lost. Groundhogs are supposed to be affectionate animals, strangely. South Bound Brook NJ is quite near to a locality called 'Ukrainian Village'. בס״ד

@@KelikakuCoutin Thanks for those details, I often wonder what became of the competitors and their various professions.

Juliansinger and Kelikaku, thanks for all that info! I often wonder what happened to the various contestants and their (sometimes) odd professions! Dorothy Gross I found an interesting person. At first glance, I thot hmmm, shy and "mousy". But then Ms Gross answered the questions so confidently! And went on to an interestong, productive life.

+juliansinger Not Woodlawn. Thomas Nunziato said that he was from Woodside (9:23), right next door to Sunnyside to the east. You may recall that Hal Block's free guess made a reference to the Long Island RR. Quite possibly that was Hal connecting Mr. Nunziato to the LIRR's major 6-track Woodside railroad station and the nearby Sunnyside rail yards. It was also likely a dig at LIRR's poor service with many trains running late. I do appreciate the information on where Mr. Nunziato worked. When Arlene asks where, there's a glitch in the tape where it seems to freeze (at least on my computer - I've tried it 3 times) and when it starts again, it is obvious that he had already answered the question and about 6 seconds elapsed. I wondered if there was some legal reason why it was being elided, or if some notorious event happened there which the syndicators of the show didn't want to draw attention to in later years.

@@loissimmons6558 Ah, thank you, it helps if I listen. As for the Horse Shoe Club, I confess I relied on tv.com's listings. (OTOH, they often get contestant names wrong.)

The recording's been redacted/censored as to where Mr. Nunziato worked. It's on the video that way.

Nice to fill in the cut portion. 👍

​@cjohnson7251I've noticed that for a few places actually. Not often but every once in awhile.

I'm thinking that John Daly was the model for Donald Trump's current hairdo.

Daly wore a toupee which was easily recognized 😊

he was married 8 times. I loved Gracie Allen's line "I bet every woman would like to know what it's like to be married to Alan Ladd, to bad he isn't Artie Shaw so we could find out."

He certainly was

@@markxxx21 Charlie Barnet beat him with 11 marriages!

@@markxxx21 each woman must not have talked to her predecessor, because apparently he was incredibly abusive.

Loved playing Begin the Beguine in high school but not goin to say what a great guy he was based on a WML appearance like most.

soulierinvestments I had never heard of Jean Hersholt before, but there's quite an extensive little biography of him on IMDb: www.imdb.com/name/nm0380965/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm. Interesting career, and in fact at one point in his life, he did indeed play a lot of villains. I never heard of "Dr. Christian" before either, but I'm sure I must have seen Jean Hersholt as the grandfather in "Heidi."

SaveThe TPC I know him mainly from Eric Von Stroheim's "Greed".

***** I'd love to be under 45 again (if that were possible ;) ! ), but I'm afraid my ignorance comes more from the fact that I have never been particularly interested in medical drama shows, and if IMDb is correct, it looks as if "Dr. Christian" was only on TV from 1956-57, which _is_ before I was born. I've heard of most of the others you mentioned, though (the exception is Dr. Gillespie), but out of all those, the only show I ever watched with any frequency was "M*A*S*H." As you may have guessed, that's because it was more comedy than drama (although it touched on some very serious subjects).

+Jim Stark "You must be under 45." Nice ageist assumption that proved to be false. Please try to remember age doesn't dictate everything.

IT WAS A RADIO SHOW!

TanRu Nomad Great???? As in, cringeworthy.

That's not a "great line" - would you say that to a woman you'd just met 2 minutes earlier, in a professional setting? I sure as hell hope not. It's crass and disrespectful

Definitely bad form. And it wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't every word that came out of his flabby mouth.

This was a different Era where no one was offended by his statement 😊

Bigfoot Mangiacavallo I agree that it was too good a quip to be overlooked, but Block tries too hard. He talks too much and his lame comments crowd out the clever ones.

soulierinvestments Huh?

Hersholt leaving the wrong way. The next guest coming in . . . . all in the same space. Rarely saw that sort of thing on this program..

I think back then, the custom was for men to stand when there was a woman contestant, which was part of the day's standard of etiquette. Of course, they did stand at other times, but the pattern generally was the men on the panel stood for women, and the women on the panel never stood.

You live in SF but have a double standard for men standing vs women?

This was a time when women were publicly referred to as *BROADS* or 'girls' by men. This was also a time when almost EVERY FAMOUS WOMAN ACTRESS (whether they admit it or not) had sex with studio brass at one time or another to get a significant part or a leading part in high budget movie or Broadway play. Men and women would act sophisticated and proper in public but whored around in private, cheated on their spouses, and looked down on each other. Dorothy Kilgallen was cheating on her husband while filming the show and her husband had numerous sexual flings while married to her. Dorothy would drink heavily and used various drugs for depression and to rest. This was also a time of EXTREME racism in the entire nation (including New York) Nat King Cole stated in an interview, when asked about being on WML, that he had to come into the theater at the back entrance and remain in a dirty room the size of a small closet until his guest appearance at the end of the show. ALL the famous African American guests had to stay in a small, dirty dressing room until called to the show at the end.

​@@tumarbongrox6074great days indeed.

@@peternagy-im4be yea they were definitely great times....but it's looking like they won't be GREAT AGAIN🙂

I wouldn't be surprised if GSN took that out because the place is still in business, and well-known.Wild guess.

corner moose No, I'm afraid it's just a glitch in the video. I don't have an alternate copy to patch it with. Sorry.

What's My Line? corner moose I was also wondering if it might have been deliberately cut, either for GSN or possibly even for its original West Coast broadcast for some reason.

SaveThe TPC It's just a glitch in the video.

TV. Com gives the place as Sunnyside Horseshoe Barroom.

What's My Line? You forgot to fill in the date, Gary, but based on the time stamp on your comment, it looks as if perhaps I am finally catching up with the rerun schedule again. :)

SaveThe TPC Thank you-- I corrected it. I often do the daily postings-- which involve about two dozen steps at this point-- first thing upon waking up, while still in a semi-hypnotic trance. ;)

What's My Line? Btw, I don't remember this episode at all, and I don't see any previous comments from me, so I wonder if I somehow had missed it the first time around. On the other hand, I didn't really remember the previous episode either, but I *had* posted comments on that one, so I can't always trust my own memory!

Hal Block was one of the best panelists, I thank him for his priceless humour.

@Mary C You were absolutely right. His intelligence and humor was totally underrated and underappreciated by Goodman and Todson. Asshole producers.

PepsiMama2 That was just a mannerism he had when he was being facetious about something or made a bad joke, I think. He'd deliberately look away from the camera, as if in embarrassment over his own remark. (Btw, I think the moment is closer to 11:08.)

It DID sound to me too like "Manhattan," but what was said was "Manhasset." That is, of course, indeed on Long Island.

And Jean Hersholt was the half-uncle of the comedy legend Leslie Nielsn.

Not Lee Vines?

I don't think it was on purpose, it's like the DVD froze up.

Glitch in the video 😢

Dr. Christian

I heard "Merry Christmas to you"

A. Vangelista is right: "Very good to see you."

Merry Christmas from Payless, Merrrrry Christmaaaassss

"Very good to see you". He said similar things to the second contestant and the last contestant.

I actually made that same observation this episode too. My working theory is that she shifts it a little on purpose to allow some light in. I imagine it could get quite claustrophobic blindfolded for so long.

Or to peek

I always figured it was difficult to get the mask on without messing up the hairstyle. They switched to opaque sunglasses in a later season to help with that.

Dorothy had no reason to peek, she was very intelligent and was an outstanding journalist 😊 It's a game show, not who wants to be a millionaire 😊

soulierinvestments It converts to a bed. The most famous company (and likely the first) is probably still Castro Convertibles, but today there is also Jennifer Convertibles, and many other furniture companies make convertible sofa-beds as well.

what we call sofa beds today.

+soulierinvestments Yet you couldn't figure out what it was from knowing that...?

I think the best known brand for sofa-beds or convertible sofas (at least on the West Coast) was Hide-A-Bed. People even used "Hide-A-Bed" to mean any old sofa-bed, the way people say "Kleenex" to mean a facial tissue or the way some older folks used to say "Frigidaire" instead of "refrigerator".

To a bed. Not unlike a davenport: another older term.

Actually, the question asked if it was used MORE by males than females. Since most scientists at that time were male, the answer should have been changed.

I figured that part was cut out for a reason.

The people that leave comments here have a way of researching the past history of some of the contestants on this show, maybe someone could look up his name and find out where he was employed.

Another post said tv.com listed it as Sunnyside Horseshoe Barroom.

Lorna Badeo I don't think it's the only time, and though I'm not 100% sure, I think Louis Untermeyer might have called her Dottie in some of the very early episodes.

About where in the clip does someone call her Dottie? And who is it who calls her by her nickname?

I've heard Bennett call her Dot. A few others also.

Faith Adams. Who,s. John Harley ?

Yes he does...... with his own hair, lol.

@@dcasper8514 Last guest..

No

Very vague resemblance, maybe.

Jack, have griped incessantly about tv's penchant for sillying up its format-using canned laughter, even hiring pro laughers, making the audience a part of the show, etc. It bothers me because it seems to be an insult to the tv audience's intelligence. They should not have shown the guests' lines to the audience.

Knott Reel. YES , on # 2...

Artie Shaw was the famous Band leader that played the clarinet.

Artie Shaw was probably the bigger sleaze.

Sleaze?😝😜 Yes to Artie

Groo Vin8tor • That’s what made him so lovable and so John Daly!

John Charles Daly, ever the diplomat in his role as moderator (known today as host)...

I've said that many times/ He tries to impress

The product wasn't effective!! 😮

Geez..you poor victim!

Calm down woke loon

Thank you for displaying your virtuousness so ostentatiously. I’m sure that future readers tweny years from now will be impressed by your judgement. Speaking however, as a person raised during the era in which the show was broadcast, I am confident that most of my contemporaries would judge you to be a humorless and sanctimonious git.

🤣

@@petemarshall8094 Truth