What's My Line? - Jill St. John; PANEL: Henry Morgan, Joan Murray (Aug 20, 1967) 

Johnny Olson was one of the greatest broadcast announcers who ever lived.

The show was never the same after Dorothy Kilgallen's tragic passing!

At 8:15 Arlene asks the first contestant "Could you possibly be a private detective?" I'll bet a lot of viewers were thinking what I was thinking: "So could you, Arlene; so could you." Her analytical and intuitive skills were certainly on display in this episode!

Jill St John aged beautifully!

June 4, 1967 was a great night. Two gorgeous sixties stunners as Mystery Guests. First up was Jill St. John, and then on the live June 4, 1967 episode was the British-born Jean Shrimpton as Mystery Guest #1.

Joan Murray looked a little nervous and lost through most of that, but I'm so happy she was able to guess the MG.

Arlene Francis- so delightful, dignified, poised, gracious, funny. Is there anyone like her today? Can't think of anyone.

Jill St. John. Stunning :-)

I'm so glad they had Henry Morgan on these late episodes: I am about to start watching the series from the beginning again, and having seen Morgan I won't have to watch the Hal Block episodes thinking that Block was the most distasteful panelist ever.

Joan Murray came up with some good questions.

I don't always remember to comment because I binge watch these shows so much BUT... Arlene Francis just nailed this one!!!

I can only imagine how colorful Arlene's dress must have been in this episode. That bold print fabric looks as though it had at least four colors, perhaps five.

When John Daly was announced I noticed Henry Morgan turned his back. I also noticed when John Daly was explaining a Yes to Henry Morgan. Morgan got kind of smart with him.

Wish I could have bumped into Jill on the street back then!

2:23 Henry Morgan throwing major shade at Bennett (turning his back to him) while Cerfs telling his lame joke introducing John Charles Daly

John definitely must have known the guests names ahead of time due to some of their writing talents. I can hardly read most of their signatures.

I like how the men stand to shake the guest's hand and the women remain seated...our society sorely misses the manners and etiquette shown only 50 years ago.

You’ve gotta love Arlene

Now here is an episode that I would have loved to have seen preserved on color videotape. Jill St. John is known for her shimmering, glimmering, and eternally red hair. Seeing Ms. St. John, and her beautiful red hair on WML, in living color, would have been, for me, something to dream about.

I'm shocked they had him back.

The movie Jill St. John promoted, "Banning", also featured her future husband, Robert Wagner, whom she married in 1990.

I wonder if the panel ever got a hint of who a mystery guest was if they got a whiff of their cologne, perfume, cigar, etc.

Joan Murray was born in Ithaca, NY in November 1937. Prior to her career as a journalist, she was a secretary to Allen Funt who graduated from Cornell University in Ithaca in the 1930's.

Jill St. John was the first American Bond Girl, and she starred in 1971's "Diamonds are Forever". Her husband, Robert Wagner, starred in the "Austin Powers" series, a parody of James Bond films.

This is the age when Americans had CLASS! I love Jill St. John. "Diamonds Are Forever"🥰

Joan Murray was just one of three African-American panelists on the original WML, along with Harry Belafonte and Sammy Davis, Jr.

Happy birthday Jill. Beautiful lady

Joan Murray died December 18th and Betty White on Dec 31st. The list of panelists from the original gets shorter and shorter each year. As of 1/3/22, the he following panelists from the original what's my line are alive: 1. Woody Allen 2. Joel Gray 3. Harry Belafonte 4. Jane Fonda 5. William Shatner 6. Steve Lawrence 7. George Hamilton 8. Joanna Barnes 9. Jeannie Carson 10. Michele Lee 11. Joan Collins 12. Aliza Kashi 13. Dick Van Dyke 14. Robert Morse 15. Paul Anka 16. Anita Gillette 17. Jack Jones 18. Dick Cavett 19. Pia Lindstrom 20. Barbara Feldon 21. Marlo Thomas

Regarding Jill St. John's age on this episode: Jill St. John turned 27 on Saturday, 19 August 1967 - the day before this episode aired on CBS. However, at the time the episode was videotaped, on Sunday, 4 June 1967, she was still 26. Another WHAT'S MY LINE? connection: On 14 October 1967, less than 2 months after this episode aired, Jill St. John married singer (and recent Mystery Guest) Jack Jones - who was, in fact, the second Mystery Guest on the live episode which aired on the same Sunday evening that this episode was videotaped! (Jean Shrimpton was the first Mystery Guest that evening.) This was Jill St. John's third "marriage-go-round" - and the marriage ended in divorce less than a year and a half later.

Close to the end of the original WML's long run, there were only 1 or 2 more shows after this one in 1967

Everyone so civil back then. Today there would most likely be a few obscenities to bleep out.

around 6:00, 13:45 and especially the exchange around 15:55 and 16:20 : Listen carefully. These bits of Henry tend to illustrate that there were tension as early as 4 June between Henry and John and especially Henry and Bennett. Bennett may have had a good idea, but Henry shuts him down TWICE --- 'cause Henry's so smart.

Jill St. John is a beautiful lady.

And another dead giveaway that this episode was taped on June 4, 1967: As with the live EPISODE #864 of June 4, 1967, Rowland Vance is credited as associate director this evening.

We need great shows like this.

Landmark WML Sunday night panelist Joan Murray was a precursor to Melba Tolliver, the New York TV news reporter - anchor who appeared fairly regularly on Syndicated WML.

That must be the third horse blanket maker they've had on the program, and it's probably the third female detective as well.

Joan was accomplished in aviation like so many contestant's and also a big interest of Dorothy.

Jill St. John was a very attractive woman. But the panelist Joan Murray was stunning.

I don't think I've seen Joan Murray since I was a kid in the 70s.

Arlene Francis MUST have been a clairvoyant. I don't know how she figured out so many "lines" with little or no clues.

John is so amazing. All around amazing.

When Henry Morgan spoke to Mrs. Twinn, I thought I heard Tony Randall laugh. I wonder if he was in the audience during this episode. There’s no mistaking that laugh 😆.

It’s interesting how John became much more generous with the cards as inflation took its toll on the $50 maximum payout.

As of 2020, the panelists over the course of WML through Aug 1967 who are still living are Woody Allen, Paul Anka, Joanna Barnes, Harry Belafonte, Jeannie Carson, Dick Cavett, Joan Collins, Anne Douglas, Barbara Feldon, Jane Fonda, Anita Gillette, Joel Grey, George Hamilton, Jack Jones, Aliza Kashi, Steve Lawrence, Michele Lee, Pia Lindstrom. Joan Murray, Sue Oakland, Mort Sahl, William Shatner, Marlo Thomas, Pamela Tiffin, Dick Van Dyke, Betty White.

i was born 15 year later after this was broadcatsed!

When Jill St. John started her answers to four questions with "Would you believe..." I suspected that she was repeating a phrase from the comedy series "Get Smart", and that "Get Smart" must have been new and trendy at the time. But I looked it up, and when this episode of WML aired, "Get Smart" was nearly two years old.

Jill St John lied when asked if she was under 25, she was actually 27 here.

The problem with the horse blankets topic was that John indicated you could get into it. This set the panel into a completely wrong direction.

*_PRIVATE DETECTIVE_* *_MAKES HORSE BLANKETS_*

Henry Morgan had a self deprecating wit. A lot of people don’t get this. I find “What’s My Line” a fascinating history of personalities and how they ended up.

My bet is it was Henry Morgan's LAST appearance on What's My Line... Ouch!

I loved how Henry put Bennett in his place, not once but twice. Bennett feels he can talk or suggest questions any time he pleases, and Henry wouldn't stand for it and apparently, by the audience applause, they enjoyed his justified putdowns. He deserved it.

For a private detective, she's a little dim. I'm assuming it's because she was caught off guard, but her admitting to the Governor of Florida using the employ of her boss directly was very indelicate. Leave it to Bennett to bring up something so brash and uncouth. He always had a habit of asking extremely inappropriate questions and making very personal comments. For such an educated man, he had a very crude way of me with no social skills.

Back in the 1960s, Jill St John always seemed to be the leading lady to bunch of men who were old enough to really be her father , like Bob Hope, Frank Sinatra and Dean Martin.Who have long past away. She is still here at this time. In the 1950s Audrey Hepburn seemed to be on that run with Humphrey Bogart, Fred Astaire etc.

John Morgan so disrespectful turning away while Bennett introduced John. No love lost there.

All contestants tonight were female. A rare occurrence on WML.

The 1st lady deserved a few wolf whistles. I think at the time it would be a little insulting to have none, especially the unmarried. Jill St. John has those incredibly high cheekbones. Gorgeous!

Recorded on June 4, 1967. Twice the Henry Morgan. The infamous Henry/Bennett row was five weeks later.

They really seem sentimental tonight as they say goodnight. I wonder which was the last episode aired and which was the last recorded?

Jill St. John was born in 1940. Henry asks her if she is under 25. She answers 'yes'... 19:48

Haenry and Bennett: dissension in the ranks.

This is the second episode I've seen where Henry Morgan and Bennett have been at odds with each other.

Curious - if this was recorded in June 1967 well before the notorious Henry Morgan incident, then why did John make reference to the "August heat" at the beginning of the show? Was this just John pretending that it was August when it really was June?

Henry was ascerbic, and there's nothing wrong that. Some aspects of these panel shows did make him mad, however. For one thing, he showed disgust on I've Got A Secret when the secret was very inane or outrageous no one would logically ever get to it. For example, he liked straightforward teasers such as, "My grandfather saw Lincoln shot," or "I went to secretarial school with Betsy," he would sometimes ask on the air, out of frustration, how the producers could expect the panel to come close to guessing a wild thing like, "I snuck a kangaroo into a first class cabin when the Queen was getting ready to board a plane." or "the home I bought contained a secret room filled with Revolutionary war cannons." Henry also made his anger known after a few times he was the butt of the celebrity segments involving his having to travel somewhere far away immediately without prior notice. For example, in one segment, Henry was picked by the guest to fly to England to get a British citizen his traditional English pudding. Henry was not pleased with having to go along with the joke. In contrast, if the segment involved a joke or activity there on the show, he was fine. For example, in one great IGAS segment, a mock political convention is held. and the audience whoops it up in voting the panelist to get "it". Balloons and confetti fell as audience members announced they were voting for Henry Morgan. A band played and there was pandemonium. The "IT" they were voting for was "who should clean up all this mess"..

I never heard of Joan Murray, I've searched. any body know her claim to fame?

One of the best Bond girls :)

Agreed. She is missed on this show.

I have never said this about a Guest Panelist before. But I found Henry Morgan to be stiff and somewhat rude towards Bennet Cerf.

Joan Murray guessed that the MG was Jill St. John because she bumped into her yesterday on 5th Avenue. Then John says Jill arrived late today. You can hear Bennett very softly whisper to Joan "Did you bump into her?". If he did this out of curiousity or if he doubted her, I don't know. Joan says Jill was with another movie star and Jill admits that. 21:30

I’m surprised Henry Morgan was invited back after his tie-up with John Daly on a previous appearance. Maybe it was finagled to pay John back for saying if Morgan had attended Tilton he probably “would’ve been a better man”, and John wasn’t joking when he said it. You can see Morgan take a swipe at John during this episode - and he wasn’t kidding, either. Can’t stand the man (Morgan) because of his behavior on WML.

Daly always picks on dear Bennett even when he is so genuinely sweet!

i was 4 days old when this aired holy shit

They asked if she was under 25 and she said yes, but that wasn't true.

I never understood why they asked Henry Morgan back after he was so rude the last time he appeared on the program. John Daly and Bennett Cerf were clearly annoyed by his outbursts.

I wonder if they knew that this would have been the second last show to have been produced and shot?

I wouldn’t describe a horse blanket as solid in all ways.

Joan Murray was a good panelist. Was she on any other episodes? Jill St John..... yowza.

Jill St. John’s born name was Jill Oppenheim

At 19:50 Henry Morgan asked Jill l if " she is under 25 ? " She replied " yes " She turned 27 the week it aired.

I always loved Henry Morgan as a panelist on game shows.

Diamonds are forever.

She lied about pretending to be less than 25 years old - she was born in 1940, which would make her 27 years old here.

Kinda funny that Jill St John mentioned here that she was about to work with Robert Wagner, whom she later married.

Joan Murray was the only Black Woman to ever sit on the panel (CBS). Correct me if I’m wrong, but was Harry Belafonte the only other African-American to be on the panel?

Are you married to a movie star? Not yet! Lol

So, she is now married to Robert Wagner is very good at keeping deep, dark secrets.

Henry Morgan is more unlikeable than his more infamous namesake back in the 17th century.

Jill lied about her age. She was 27 years old here.

Parents don't teach manners. They don't even have them.

Freeze at 16:25. Bennett's reaction to Henry caught by Franklin Heller. Probably as evidence.

she lied and said she was under 25, but she just turned 27 the day before this was aired.

2:23....Henry rudely has his back turned at Bennett's intro of John.

Was this originally recorded in color? I thought TV shows had switched to that format by the end of 1966.

Does anybody know if those celebrities took the money or whether they gave them to charities? I would’ve thought that the format would’ve incorporated celebrities giving their winnings to charities.

The first contestant, Joan Gordon, was a very attractive woman--yet there was only the "ghost" of a wolf whistle when she entered. Do you think this is indicative of a change in the times; when wolf whistles were beginning to be seen as rude and crass, rather than complimentary?

According to Wikipedia she was lying about her age, she was 27, and in 1967 she was married to Jack Jones.

I think that it was hard to get Jill St. John is because she wasn't married to or related to anyone in show biz which is usually a big crutch to the panel.

She answered yes when asked if she was under 25. But according to wikipedia and imdb this was the day after her 27th birthday. Maybe she misheard the question and thought he said 35.

Scam artist is a noun, not an adjective, but it certainly fits Bennett Cerf