What's My Line? - Peter, Paul & Mary; Woody Allen [panel] (Jul 7, 1963) [W/ COMMERCIALS] 

And Mary Travers was so gracious and beautiful. Their harmonies were some of the best.

I really miss Marry. We did a Meet and Greet with them after a show once to benefit a charity and Mary was the sweetest lady ever. 💗

@@dorothycordova1678I hope you referred to her as Mary and not ‘Marry’ … you should eat more Special K.

Peter is equally kind and generous.

Me too. I met her in their beginnings. Such class and the harmony was sublime

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Puffed up corn … yuck!

Passed away February 2024 Rest in peace Mr Ozawa ♡

Back when Woody Allen was a human being.

That's for sure! I've been to a concert in which he conducted Ravel. He was great!

@@feraudyh Interesting!

LEGENDARY conductor of Boston Symphony Orchestra, I saw him many times.

I saw him with the Boston Symphony orchestra many times.

I saw him when I was 14 at the Paris Opera, when he conducted-- if I remember correctly (that was 50 years ago!) a production of La Traviata.

Alex Daniel its 1963 ... why would they.

***** No reason. I just find it funny. Especially considering most of their guess work leads most of them to thinking that he's an acrobat or circus performer.

***** Because Ozawa was assistant conductor to Leonard Bernstein of the N.Y. Symphony 1961-1962. It strikes me that, for all they knew about the theater, I've never heard the panelists talk about the symphony, and I'm not sure they were all that familiar with the opera.

Alex Daniel Unless he's continually getting public mention, no-one would know who he is, unless your into classical music and do your own research.

When contestant #1 signed in, I ran it, back-three times. This, certainly, isn't a "mystery guest." This was fine-now, to view it! Re: the mystery guests-I have the group's(now)50-year-old 'live' 2-LP set. It's wonderful. I, especially, love, "Paultalk." It's a twelve-minute segment, in which Mr. Stookey monologizes.

I prefer being advised about Corn Flakes by Dennis James than the Beverly Hillbillies...

Paul Duca :D

Paul Duca, Kelloggs produced the show, not commercials featuring them. The Clampetts don't eat cornflakes, they have possum dumplings for breakfast!

Barbara Danley 😂

At least it wasn't a cigarette commercial.

I was lucky enough to meet them at a mixer after a concert in Houston. They were great & I loved them all but Mary the most!

I saw them from their beginning Wonderful people with great voices That blended so naturally and Mary Wow.

They sang one month after this show in washington DC for justice and freedom.

Have you seen the Jack Benny episode they were on. It's one of my favorites.

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Pretty amazing to see Seiji Ozawa show up and nobody knows who he is.

Fascinating factoid!

Yes, much like Noel Edmonds and Mr Blobby.

I wonder how many musicians were able to make a living from performing in the creation of the jingles! I was surprised that that I still knew the sominex song by heart, and I never saw that product in our home!!

Lily Bean I agree. Not on all cylinders. I think it really knocked her for six.

Lily: Miss Francis looked very sharp here...

Cup of black coffee for Miss Francis, please. That was a bit of a slight at the end to Woody Allen....."He wasn't much tonight, but when you see him perform....." Lol! It was okay, I'm sure, but I wish they'd have shown Woody's face.

And their big hearts and work for charity and peace.

My mistress wears a ball gown on a daily basis. She also wears a baby doll nightie when it’s time for our regular game of ‘Casanova’s Conjugals’ 🤵‍♂️

I need to amend my post. The proper address was New York, New York 10022. My original post put the zip code in the wrong location. Note to self: when correcting something, make sure to do it correctly.

Everyday habits take time to form, and a lot of time to break. My dad wrote addresses that way for years, many people did. Placing the full zip code at the very end, hopefully even sticking out a bit, became essential as mail sorting procedures changed. Mail handlers needed to flip through stacks of mail scanning just the zip rather than reading the whole address.

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I really like her a lot. Very very smart, very pretty, the pinnacle of class.

It certainly united the nation.

Phil Tevlin - How lucky you were to have seen them. I bet they gave a wonderful performance.

@@shirleyrombough8173 Their concerts were so much fun. I saw them several times.

poetcomic1 I WISH I was there to enjoy that Greenwich Village scene back then.

@@davidsanderson5918 Whatsamatter? You have a problem with 2020?

@@poetcomic1Lol, I LOVE good sarcasm!

Very

I'd be annoyed too, after hearing the product described as "fish".

​@@kentetalman9008*shellfish

Possibly the most versatile name plate on WML if they used the same one for all three. But there were four panelists over the years whose name ended in those letters, seeing that Dorothy Kilgallen's name also ends with "allen".

@Robert Melson. Lol. I did too- especially since Steve Allen was a panelist quite often.

He'll be 88 next month, and still going strong.

There was still a lot of resentment towards Japan at this time, just18 years after the war. But Japan was being run by warlords up until they lost the war. It would make no sense to hold Japanese artists who were children during the war responsible for anything that their government did.

Ignorance causes people to not be able to mentally remove citizens of a rival nation from the warmongering powers that be, that ultimately drag a country into war with another. But with all respect, there were painful, lingering memories in the minds of direct participants in that horror, and I believe it in important to consider their feelings and how long deep scars take to heel.

Wow-- as I said in another comment, I'm really not familiar with Ozawa. Somewhat surprising to me that anti-Japanese sentiment was still that strong in 1962 in the U.S. Or was that not the issue?

NHK is a Japan TV network, so the problem had something to do with him personally.

soulierinvestments Ah, okay. Interesting info from you as always.

soulierinvestments I did not know all that about Ozawa's history, but as I mentioned in my reply to Aleta Curry's comment, above, the fact that he had already established that much of a name for himself by the time this episode was taped makes it even more astonishing that the panel had no clue who he was!

I saw him perform as director of the Boston Symphony when I was a student at Northeastern U. He was a very dynamic person.

Even better in the gownless strap!

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Aye, laddie. These washed-out old video tapes don't do her justice.

For her age🤣 you didn’t have to tell yours

That was from "Annie Hall", his most famous film ever.

I remember thinking about the exact same "Annie Hall" moment when I first watched this show!

"It's the size of a Buick!"

Paul Duca You probably know this full well already, but the spider was the size of a Buick. The lobsters were just. . . well. . . "lobster-sized". :)

BV You and David Von Pein must have been posting around the same time and sharing brainwaves -- he posted a link to the clip you referenced in a separate comment, above yours. It does seem remarkably apropos to Woody Allen's own questioning of the lobster seller. I wonder if he had that in mind at all when he wrote the scene.

I thought so, too....

I absolutely adore watching them now since I heard but never saw them before..

What's about to hit them more immediately is Bob Dylan, for the upcoming Newport Folk Festival that Peter speaks of here will introduce Bob to a much wider audience. Beatlemania, meantime, has already gripped parts of Europe, but Capitol execs weren't interested in the Beatles and other problems kept the Beatles, for the most part, off American airwaves until Dec, '63. The Beatles would arrive at JFK in Feb '64 and American pop culture would change forever.

Is that “Ozawa” in Chinese? I’m just curious:)

@@caraevans2609 No, it's "Ozawa Seiji" in Japanese.

I was fortunate to see them live three times in Toronto, during the 1980's. Twice at Roy Thompson Hall and once at Massey Hall.

I went to two of their concerts in the sixties, both at Kent State University. (This was before the May 4th, 1970 shootings.)

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Well observed! ❤ 👏🏼

Don't forget the significance of the events in Dallas later this same year of 1963, that would see a President committed to ending our involvement in Vietnam being violently replaced with another President all too happy to rev up the war machine.

You're very welcome, Martha-- glad you enjoyed it!

The biggest stars of the time appeared as guests (and on the panel), which goes to show just how intelligent and respected this show and John and the panel were.

That was Ted Mack doing the Sominex ad, wasn't it?

Then I am 19 days older than your mother. Now, get off my lawn, whippersnapper!

Who cares!!!

Exactly one month before mine.

I know! i’d say - or guess, whatever - that about 99% of conductors are extremely good pianists. Interesting, eh? (Maybe he was just being a little modest… He didn’t rate himself as enough of a virtuoso, perhaps , to call himself a “pianist,” c.f., the virtuosi he and his orchestras accompanied …- ? -_Ahh, well. ( Sorta like Hector Berlioz. 1 of the very few great composers who didn’t play an instrument well at all…)

He doesn't play an instrument IN HIS LINE. He conducts the ones that do.

Mr. Ozawa was an aspiring pianist before he broke two fingers in a sports injury.

Aleta Curry Yes, it amazes me that the panel neither had to be blindfolded nor even introduced to him as Mr. X! And after watching the full segment and finding out that he had already won some major awards and positions in the world of music by that time, I am further surprised that none of the highly cultured panel regulars had any idea who he was but needed to identify his "line" through the usual question-and-answer process, just like any other contestant with a job outside the entertainment business. The other contestants I can think of who I was equally surprised were not recognized by the panel were Jacques Cousteau (who was introduced as Mr. X, I believe, but whom the panel did not know by sight) and Colonel Harland Sanders (of Kentucky Fried Chicken fame), who, like Ozawa, signed in under his own name and also looked every inch like his image on millions of cartons of fried chicken. I don't remember for sure whether either of those was in an episode before this one (I think Cousteau was, but not Col. Sanders -- is that right, What's My Line? ?), but I had watched the clips of both of those segments elsewhere on RU-vid before I discovered this channel. As someone who grew up in the 1960s and 70s, it's hard to imagine a time when these people were not both household names and familiar faces.

SaveThe TPC Cousteau on 9/16/56. Col. Sanders on 12/1/63. Neither were the main mystery guest. Cousteau signed in as a "Mr. X", Col. Sanders was still unknown enough to sign in with his real name. No blindfolds on the panel for either segment.

What's My Line? I *thought* I remembered seeing the full Cousteau episode on your channel already, and the 1956 date confirms that, just as the Dec. '63 date confirms that I haven't seen the full Col. Sanders episode yet. I remember both segments well from when I first saw them as clips elsewhere on RU-vid, though, because I was so amazed by the fact that the panel did not need to be blindfolded for either of them and that Col. Sanders didn't even have to hide his name or try to dress differently from the very distinctive and memorable style that I associate with him.

@@WhatsMyLine I am reminded of the Fred Allen tribute show, aired the night after his sudden death. Cyd Charisse was the MG, but the three "regular" contestants were Jacques Plante (future NHL Hall of Famer), Mrs. Jules Lederer (aka Ann Landers), and Toshiko Akiyoshi (future jazz great). Lots of wow factor thinking about what the future held for each, as well as lots of tears with the tributes to dear Mr. Allen.

You do realize, of course, that most famous people were unknown when young.

Indeed! One of my favorite things about seeing PP&M in person was the many generations singing along in the audience!

Radiant, lovely, charming, glamorous, classy lady!

Her eyes are a bit puffy in this period, to be fair. For a year or two prior to the accident she looked AMAZING!! Big eyes, loose soft hair, great look....she was stunning then. She's not quite her usual sultry self here.....yet. I don't think.

Bob Hay: yeah, she was a babe, I can see how Martin stayed with her...

Like my naughty Auntie Jennifer.

Dan Celli one of the greatest.

He's vile

Interesting

I think his appearance on this episode was before he became so very well known.

I'm not all that familiar with Peter, Paul and Mary or Ozawa's careers, but certainly, Woody's great fame was yet to come. I believe I've read in bios of him that he had to be practically forced to do things like this by his managers, Rollins and Jaffee, for the national exposure it would provide. Seems like it sure worked!

P -P-M started performing in 1961, so all of them were relatively new on the scene.

soulierinvestments An impressive line-up indeed!

soulierinvestments Absolutely. I'm sure both Woody and Arlene were laughing at every BSO Carnigie Hall opening after not getting this.

Maybe he was sore at her for being so sloppy with the medications and libations (if that's how she died). Sad resentment to ease the pain.

I think Bennett would have secretly been resentful/jealous of Dorothy’s superior game playing and sharp mind. Bennett had his own intelligence and business skill but he was no match for Dorothy at this game. This would irk many men from that era at the time.

However they truly felt about each other, they would have kept their feelings out of their performances. I think the audience and watchers would have been turned off by excessive snarkiness from the panelists.

Joe Postove Yeah and to think she was about 55 here at a time.

Women are beautiful at all ages.

You should see her in a gownless strap!

Dorothy was lovely and very sophisticated.

@bellend2463 Broadcast date is correct - July 7, 1963

Yes if you use BS government inflation numbers. I seem to recall buying individual serving size of 2 - 2 oz. hostess chocolate cupcakes for 25 cents and I was born in 1956 but other than food things have gone up even more than that. Apparently thar cupcake size has been reduced 20% too.

You are probably correct, as far as MALE panelists. This is the episode where "Allen" surges into the lead as far as panelists' names. It will be tied, however by "Douglas" (Melvyn, Mike, and Anne). Second place is "Lewis" (Robert Q. and Jerry), Cerf (Bennett and Phyllis), Andrews (Dana and Eamonn), Hayes (Peter Lind and Margaret), Mason (James and Pamela), Grey (Joel and Coleen), Price (Vincent and Roger), Cook (Peter and Sarah), Carson (Johnny and Jeannie), Young (Robert and Gig), Powell (Dick and Jane), and Hoffman (Harold and Richard, though technically Richard had 2 'n's in his last name). There could be others that I can't think of off the top of my head or find with a quick scan. I definitely did NOT conduct an exhaustive search. Someone with a searchable database might find something surprising.

Allen Konigsberg = Woody Allen

This was soon after Mary puffed the magic dragon. Oh wait, that was, 'go ask Alice, when she's ten feet tall.' Grace Slick! 😎Groovy.

That was my very first exposure to this show-- I had never sen a single episode of WML before seeing Woody's version!

I saw that film. It's titled "Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Sex.". The show was called "What's My Perversion?". Incidentally, there is a WML parody in the original 1961 animated version of the Disney classic "101 Dalmatians". It was called "What's My Crime?".

64chromedome It was a great example of early, tasteless Woody Allen comedy.

64chromedome That parody was featured in the original 101 DALMATIONS novel...

I realize this is a very old comment, but I also recall an earlier film where WML was parodied (though not as elaborately). This is from "Take The Money And Run". ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5nNWIVkLJ-M.html