What's My Line? - Tribute to Dorothy Kilgallen - Maureen O' Sullivan (Nov 14, 1965) [W/ COMMERCIALS] 

Alli Payne Oh, wow-- I know I'm not alone when I say, as a WML fan, I'd be delighted to hear any and everything your mom remembers about being on the program. I'm very annoyed that I almost COMPLETELY missed your comment, got no notification for it from RU-vid at all. It's very rare to hear from people who are related to contestants, and always extremely welcome, but even more so if your mom was on such a historically important episode. Thanks for commenting, and if you can share any more, please do!

What's My Line? Norma did not know who submitted her name to the show, and assumed that particular episode would be cancelled in light of Kilgallen's death. But, as she didn't hear anything, she went ahead and flew to NYC. They put her up at the Americana Hotel. When she arrived at the studio, she was ushered to a small room where she waited alone. The stage manager told her there would be no meet and greet after the show as was usually the case. So, she went back to her hotel and on home the next day. In the mail she got her big winnings and a note from the producer saying that she had received a very positive response and that she should run for president! I know she was annoyed with Kitty Carlisle's comment about how everyone voted her because she was pretty, but appreciated Serf's flirtatious question about whether she was the cause of the recent black-out and thought he was clever to pull out her party affliliation. One can see how that went over! And she chose not to correct Daly's gaff, calling her "Norman", figuring folk could see she was not male. Then, as instructed, she shook the panels hands and left. Decades later a graduate student who was doing a paper on Kilgallen managed to track her down in Arizona to see if she could shed some light. But, she told him everything was very somber and hush hush, and no one was saying ANYTHING.

Alli Payne It's truly wonderful of you to have shared all this information. I can't thank you enough-- it's fascinating. And it's just very nice of you to take the time out to respond in such detail. We WML fans eat this stuff up, really. As I commented in the WML Facebook group (where, I can tell you, no surprise that the folks there are very interested in your comments), I've always felt bad for the contestants on this particular episode for having the misfortune to be booked on the single most depressing, laugh-free, difficult-to-watch episode of WML. I'm convinced that even if you snipped the opening and closing off and showed the rest of the episode to someone who had no idea what its significance was, even though there's no mention of Dorothy at any other point, it would still be apparent that something was very, very off that night. But though I'm sure it wasn't the fun experience it would have been virtually any other week, your mom does have the distinction of having appeared on one of the most historically significant episodes of the series. And certainly the strangest! If you'll indulge me one minor question, I'm very curious about the prize money, if your mom remembers. My understanding is that all the contestants got the full $50 regardless of whether they won the game, plus an all expense paid trip to NY if travel was required. I've also seen mention of some spending money given to the regular contestants for the trip, but all of this info is very murky. I couldn't resist at least taking the shot that your mom would remember a small detail like this 50 years later. And really, thanks so much again for your comments.

What's My Line? I'm so glad the WML fans are enjoying this! Yes, she did get that whole 50 bucks. The show paid for the flight and the hotel, but that was it. She was not allowed to leave right after her appearance, but was ushered back to the same small room until the show was over. As she was walking back to her hotel, an audience member called after her, "Mayor Walker! Mayor Walker!" and asked her tell a former mayor of Aurora hello for him. She clearly remembers the flight back because she had to prep for the first council meeting of her term. I do love revisiting this show now and again - but looking at all the guests are the right side of my screen, I might fall down this rabbit hole for quite a while.

+Alli Payne Wow! This has been ultra thrilling to read and I thank you so much for sharing with us. As an avid WML fan, this episode is one that I have seen many times and "enjoy" in a very somber way. It's rare that I remember a contestant's name, but I always remember your mom's name! And I noticed the incorrect reference to her name as "Norman" and wondered why it was never mentioned. Your comments are great!

Everyone dressed so properly...

​@@timcarr6401What is "properly"? Forget the style. What I noticed is that they held themselves well and could have been dressed in anything. It wasn't the clothes that made the mayor.

@@nedludd7622 The word 'properly' means correctly, suitably or in a fitting manner. If one is describing an action then you would use the word properly. The word 'proper' is used if you are describing a thing.

Bennett was not mannered by asking one of the contestants their political leanings.

@@nedludd7622 I understand the word “proper” is open to interpretation. My feeling is that these people had style. I remember the days when people even dressed up to get on an airplane. Even now if you visit a church or a nice restaurant you will see many people dressed like slobs. It’s become normalized. There are people with style today, they still exist and I am always happy to see someone looking sharp.

Yes, I'm in tears as I respond to you.

@@LauraMorland same...

@@Marie-oy1bd I can't bear to watch it again. I guess I'll watch Betty White on WML and cry about her!

Such an emotional commentary, it made me cry. Very somber.

@@IrishAnnie I can't bear to watch it again for a long while.

And, MORE IMPORTANTLY, RIP, MIss Kilgallon, my FAVORITE EVER panelist on WHL.

I couldn't agree more. I still watch these videos frequently, and I remember when this happened. That evening, we were all in shock. Watching these brings back good memories of my youth and a wonderful pair of parents who watched it religiously. May they all RIP.

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That was commonplace back then - an example I aspired to as a young boy, which put me at odds with my juvenile peers. Considering the tenor of our society nowadays I feel my aspirations were vindicated.

@@schullieringer What do you mean by Rest in Peace? Any other way of resting?

He looked like he had virtually aged overnight...

They are all dead now rip

@@coolfinetime you’re correct, they are all passed now. But don’t negate what these folks went through that night.

I agree.

Mark Shaw is doing all he can to make sure it is addressed AND revealed.

@@andrewklados4096 Thanks. I will check it out...

@@tfcmls_domination6801 -- Sorry, but in my opinion, (and this is not the place to debate it all) but only the utterly ill-informed would believe that preposterous story,...

Dorothy's personality does not go with how she died. It will always be a mystery.

She was intuitive. She would have been a great detective.

I think Dorothy was killed by the government. She was getting too close to finding out what happened to Marilyn Monroe. Marilyn did not commit suicide and yes, Dorothy was a talented investigative reporter.

@@gurucarcar well, she was kind of a detective...an investigative reporter.

It was amazing to watch her go. Like a dog on the trail.

She was absolutely brilliant, insightful...one of the first 500 persons to have a Hollywood star granted

WML producer Gil Fates wrote in his book on the show that it was never the same after Dorothy's passing. Bennett and Arlene liked the show, but they didn't play with the intensity DK did. Dorothy wanted to win. Fates said they tried to keep the "journalism / reporter" chic of the show with several other writers (Suzy - a newspaper society columnist, author Helen Gurley-Brown and AP news service reported Mary Ann Means. All three tried - Suzy and Helen were better - but none came close to Dorothy. Another thing which helped speed the end of WML was Daly's refusal to introduce panel participation or other demonstration segments as To Tell The Truth had done. Daly told Fates, "Save that cr@p for I've Got A Secret."

I would love to read the Gil Fstes book!

@@snowden67 I sometimes think that Dorothy's death was what ultimately led to the decision that the networks made to get rid of all of the panel shows in 1967. Her death exposed the biggest-and indeed only-weakness that panel shows in the US and Canada(The CBC's Front Page Challenge would have similar issues in its later years) had: They were all, after so many years, so dependent on the personalities sitting on the panel that if something as calamitous as this happened, they wouldn't be able to keep the engine running for long, as Gil Fates practically admitted that they couldn't. British panel shows, by contrast, often went off the air for a period of years before returning, sometimes with the old faces but sometimes with new ones, which allowed them to run for longer periods(As an example, WML? in the UK ended in '61, came back briefly in the 70s, and roared back in full force in the early 1980s, lasting over a decade. Eamonn Andrews even hosted the 80s edition all the way until his death in '87).

@daniel anderson I remember reading it on the back page of the paper; totally surprised.

It carried on just fine

+Joann Smith I agree with you 100%.

+Joann Smith They were all devastated by the loss, and they were out of it as a result. You could tell that all of the performers were completely preoccupied... to the point that none of them really seemed to want to be there. When Maureen O'Sullivan was on specifically, each of the panelists were missing the important questions. The dynamic that Dorothy brought to the panel was lost and, as a result, they were flustered during the mystery guest round. Though, Kitty Carlisle did her level best. If Dorothy had been there, I'm certain they would have guessed the mystery guest in one or two rounds.

Yes, I believe that as well. I particularly didn't care for Kitty Carlisle. She didn't seem one bit sincere when she commented at the end of the program about her sitting in Dorothy's seat. It just seemed so thoughtless.

What in the world did you expect her to say? They weren't close personal friends. Kitty gave a respectful and thoughtful short tribute, just like everyone else on the panel did.

+What's My Line? It just seemed forced and not heart felt in my opinion. Even though they may have not been close personal friends...it just seemed empty. Everyone else's seemed to come from the heart. Like I said though...that is just my opinion. No need to get angry about it.

Well, he was a permanent panelist before he was in the rotation.

He also filled in after Fred Allen’s death.

I like to call it the "Allen Slot". Filled by Fred Allen, Steve Allen, Woody Allen, and occasionally Marty Allen.

@@PhilBagels Not to mention Allen Ludden.

Steve Allen was a quick witted, brilliant comedian, and performer.

I know where Dorothy is. She is in my heart. Your SAVIOR would would get his ass kicked if she tried to change that.

Passed so suddenly? She was murdered because she was going to expose the conspiracy of the JFK assasination.

She knew too much and had loose lips

@@dinahbrown902I don’t think ‘loose lips’ is appropriate for an investigative reporter.

@@raymondkymsuttle okay

She, and all the other reporter sleuths tried to find evidence of who assassinated JFK--- She had apparently uncovered evidence of who it was, and was killed to keep her quiet--- She was not suicidal, and a What's My Line episode was just filmed that evening--- Go ask the FBI or Frank Sinatra who killed her!!!!!!

@freeguy77, In fact, she just passed away this past September, at 95.

@@mitchellmelkin4078 So sad to hear that, but she lived to have a long life at 95, which few people get to enjoy that long. She was so gorgeous in this WML? episode!

I just watched this on you tube. And my tears flowed as well, considering how & why she passed on. Very eloquent tributes to her from the panelists. RIP, Ms. Kilgallen.

@@wendylee9779 RIP? What other way is there to rest when you die.

Love you people from the past accept Jesus in your heart soul mind

@@Robert-re5vk I always think of this too! Breaks my heart that so many don’t know the joy of knowing our wonderful savior! Worst yet thinking about what eternity means for them!

@@lindapearson3411 😅😅

I totally agree. Ive only been watching clips from youtube since this aired long before i was born. From the clips ive seen so far, Shes got the most correct.

She got so many right . May God rest her soul in His peace , please & thank U , Amen .

Yes she was

She was/is fun to watch. While Arlene was all woman, Dorothy had a certain girlishness. She was sometimes criticized for wanting to win, to get it right, but that was part of he appeal.

The whole panel was a "class act." Dorothy was a true talent and was sorely missed as the panel indicated. Supp-hose stockings? Do women even wear stockings anymore?

It should've ended after her death. It ran two years too long, and even before Dorothy passed, ratings weren't as high and many people were losing interest.

They tried but the end was near

This was the mid sixties and viewing habits had changed.

@@wendyfried4589 the television landscape was starting to change in 1965 and by the the year 1972 the game shows in primetime were gone and the westerns had about three more years on TV so tv changed with the times

So very, very true.

Everything about this show exuded a classiness that will never be seen again.

That was one gorgeous and glamorous mayor.

I am crying as well for this great panel and for The marvelous, intelligent Dorothy. Fun memories of watching What's My Line in the 1960s as a boy. 🙂

So, Who killed here---- The mob, the FBI?? Somebody wanted to shut her up before they were exposed--- She may have had the evidence on who the REAL killers of JFK were-----

I've recently found this series and really enjoying it. This is such a sad episode for them all, missing Dorothy so much.

And the audience didn't whistle at the first contestant as per pulchritudinous tradition. Everyone seemed to be in a daze here.

+Chris Barat It would be a major leap to say the studio audience was in a daze, but the four panelists and John Daly probably were.

@@2508bona ...I noticed that. I think the whistling is cheap and tacky and I'm glad they had the sensibilities to refrain. Other than the whistles...I really enjoy this show...as much as I did back in the 60's.

It's a tough watch. Bless them 🙏 💗 ✨

@@anselmgolden8286 yes

I remember this show well. I was just but 12 and we all thought that she had killed herself. It was all quite shocking since it happened following her appearance of WML the night before.

Rick jones she did kill herself

@@donaldmcauliffe7653 She had no reason to!

@@colleen4ever she met jack in prison he gave out information which got them both killed

Donald Mcauliffe supposedly in her last two weeks alive she bought a gun because she was threatened her life while working on a JFK story.

Sadly if one displays those qualities today, one is thought of as odd. I miss those days as well.

... and when women were women and men were men...

They were less racist, homophobic and overall more tolerant, right? 🤔 🤔

@@MrJerry9691 Yes, overall there was considerably less racism in the 1950s than there is now. Promoting racism has become the primary interest of the media and the Democrats. And since there is no such thing as "homophobia," that question in meaningless. Tolerance implies respect. Yes, the 1950s were much more tolerant. People were much more respectful of others, period. Any look at our politics and "social" media proves that every single day.

@@timothywilliams1359 , I beg to differ. Polite meant as long as you didn't question Jim Crow laws and stayed closeted, you were considered one of the good "ones" as long as you didn't buck the system. The 1950s was a time when people had to look to the ground or move off the sidewalk , in the south most often, if someone was of a certain complexion waliking in their direction. I know people from that time period and they seem to be the same as people are now ( cultured and uncultured).

Randy Bailin Arlene's eyes were never the same. So sad what life can do.

I agree, I was the only one in the family that felt a part of the game show no one else did.

With the demise of Fred Allen the show was losing its charm surely and after Dorothy's demise it surely lost it totally.

Dorothy Was murdered because she was close to finding the true murderers of JFK.

@@allenevans6478 No she was not and you offer no evidence to support your claim. The Manhattan DA reopened the investigation into Dorothy's death in 2019. He found no basis to prosecute because there was no foul play. Case closed.

preppy socks Go back and do more research . You are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay offfffffff, She was poisoned with drugs and found sitting up in a bed, she never slept in. Who would be prosecuted in 2019? Everyone, is deceased, or aged.

@@preppysocks209 um, maybe you should do your research

@@kristabrewer9363 When you know more than the DA despite not having seen evidence he has seen, let us know.

Yes she was highly intelligent. I can remember vaguely some of the later shows, but this program did start before I was born. I became intrigued with Dorothy when I recently heard several programs about her on the Coast to Coast radio show. She was quite the investigative reporter. I was tickled to recently find her on these videos and connect a name and a face. She was highly intelligent and so beautiful. I am a child of the 50s and miss the days of women dressing up and having impeccable manners. Being smart and inquisitive got Dorothy killed. She was onto the Marilyn Monroe "suicide" when she was murdered by the federal government. Dorothy held her own in a man's profession at a time that women didn't do that. She was awesome.

@@scottishhellcat It was her understanding that some in our own government killed her to stop her investigation of who assassinated JFK. And why

Yes, the mustang commercial I liked. I am in a mustang club.

devoutman-Well said.:)

she was a total professional

SHE WAS MURDERED

@@harlow743 GOD killed her. It was her time to go.

@@harlow743Assasimated. I wonder how many viewers know that - and know why.

@Mary C No she was not. Offer some proof if you are going to put out falsehoods.

@Andrew Ongais I don't know what Mary C said, but Dorothy was definitely murdered.

@@dorothykilgallenwasmurdere1653 No, she definitely wasn't.

She might have uncovered who really killed Kennedy rumors have it the secret service killed Kennedy that's why they killed her

@@JimBalter the events surrounding her death are so clearly suspicious.

+downtonabbeyfreak I agree. Arlene usually is bubbly and impish. She is completely serious in this episode. She knows what questions to asks and she asks them, but she is doing her job automatically. There is none of the usual joy and fun. Her comments at the end bring me to tears. Also, Steve Allen seems to be trying to hold himself together as he speaks about Dorothy. John Daly, though, is the one who really breaks my heart as he looks like he is so heartbroken that he just wants to sit down and put his head in his hands. They are all performers but I don't believe there was any acting going on; they were all devastated by Dorothy's sudden death.

I think Steve was pretty upset too.

@@patshhi4620 I feel the same way. He's so subdued in this episode. Even Bennet's missing the twinkle in his eyes which belies the smile on his face as he tries to play the game.

@@BBCHZ Agree on the others but not so sure on Bennett. I really didn't like what I consider to be, rather unkind comments at best and disparaging at worst, that he made about Dorothy just 3 short years later, during an interview. I was shocked and to be honest, really quite sad. It was wholly unnecessary and I think if the positions were reversed, Dorothy would have been much more magnanimous and dignified.

Love Dorothy Kilgallen, best panelist ever, such a loss when she passed away. John, Bennett and Arlene were favs too and while I’m sure they all had fun doing the show and enjoyed each other’s company on the set, was surprised to read in Arlene Francis’ book that she and Bennett were not really close to Dorothy. They were in different political camps and didn’t travel in the same social circles.

have you read any of the books about her? I've read 2 already and I 've been slowly reading a nother one.

J Edgar Hoover had so much involvement.Dorothy knew too much

​@@wanupgirlWhat are the titles of the two books?

@@WATCH-IT-BUSTER Ther Reporter who knew too much and Fighting for Justice: by Mark shaw

@wanupgirl Oh yes, I've watched Mark Shaws RU-vid videos on the subject.

soulierinvestments I also watched it live when I was a kid and it affected me the same way. I loved the show. John Daly was obviously heartbroken. That's the main thing I remember. Dorothy was wicked smart and had a good sense of humor, despite what people say. The panelists were my role models. Well, butterflies are free, aren't they?

I was 10 at the time and although we always watched this program, on that particular night we did not. It never occurred to me until now that my parents probably didn't want us to see it due to the tragedy of her death. My mother in particular was very protective. I'm so glad I was able to view it here.

I was also 10 years old when this aired and I remember watching this with my family on TV. After WML ended I never thought about these shows again, until my Mother died six years ago. Somehow I found WML on RU-vid and came across this. As I watched this show and other WML episodes with my small dog beside me, I found it comforting to watch these people who were like "family" to me from so long ago. Many happy memories resurfaced and I did not feel so alone.

I, too, remember seeing this episode as a child. Despite the next day being a schoolday, if my homework was done, my reward was being allowed to stay up to see this show. I have just now discovered this post, along with many other broadcasts; and at 80, I completely broke down in sobs to relive this episode, especially John Daley's introduction. Miss Kilgallen contributed so much charm and "class" to this delightful show. She, and John D., and all the panel had a ready wit and tasteful reperte that is sadly wanting in today's TV.

@@jerrymunroe2233 I was 12 at the time. My Mother along with her 12 brothers and sisters are all gone now, the many cousins are now the next generation and like you, watching these shows brings back memories of a simpler time and a feeling of "family" also. This is the first time seeing this episode and I'm glad to finally see it.

John looked like crying most of the show. Must have been tough to film that episode.

"Several times"! Stupid spellcheck!

Does anyone know why or how Dorothy died? She wasn't old or anything... I mean makes no sense. It was a shock to me even after all these years. I never watched nor I knew about this show before . It was sad because I watched an episode before this with her dad as a guest. I think she was very intelligent and a big asset to the show. I really liked her... Rest In Peace!

yes but there is life after death my friend. They have all passed on to a better or worst place, depending on the state of their relationship with God at the time of their departure from this earth. I trust the great mercy of God has allow for them a better place.

Mehdi B. Idk if you found out by now or not but she was murdered, probably was a hit by Kennedy, as she was about to drop the story of Marilyn Monroe scandal

@@mehdib.628 A book has recently been published on the death of Dorothy Kilgallen. The author discusses this book titled "The Reporter Who Knew Too Much" at ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-nvpkE29X3tM.html

z your joking right! Take your own advise weirdo

MisterMasterShafter1 e

If I were to write a comment about the show, I could simply cut and paste yours. Exactly my experience.

@@ibnalhaytham I hope you guys are members of The WML Facebook Page!

I am on the What's My Line Facebook page. But it's the syndicated version instead.

@@ibnalhaytham Hear Hear!

🙏 Amen.

I was just thinking the same thing! R.I.P.

Brittany Welty That makes me feel very, very, very good to read. Thank you for the comment. I'm on the same page as you, too. My admiration and affection for Dorothy has grown in leaps and bounds over the last year and a half of posting these videos, especially after I read her biography.

Sad that she died surrounded by controversy ... I find her intelligent and inquisitive ... I really enjoy her on the panel. RIP 😥

Yes, very similar in appearance to Geena Davis - a statuesque beauty!

I agree.. I am a bit shocked in a female mayor in this time

The Mayor of Aurora, Mrs Walker is certainly better looking than the Azzhole of NY, DeBlasio, lightfoot of Chicago and other dogs that currently mismanage American cities!

@@scarsdale22 I don't see the connection to what I wrote years ago. Can you?

@@freeguy77 I did not mean to write my comment as a reply to your comment! Wrong places.... perdonami

@@scarsdale22 Totally inappropriate and off topic! No one should choose their leaders by looks alone!

In the face of self administered pills and booze, genes do not stand a chance.

@@JohnParks-zc1pn Not sure that it was self-administered. Many questions surround the death.

@@XCodeHelpHub such as?

Read The Reporter Who Knew Too Much!!!!

@@MichelleCahill-qp9mc What about The Reporter Who Drank Too Much (!!!) and The Reporter Who Popped Too Many Pills (!!!!)? One merely has to watch re-runs of WML to become painfully aware that Dorothy Kilgallen had a major substance abuse problem. Toward the end of her life, her speech was often slurred, and she did not look well. It's no surprise she met an early demise. I'm sure none of the long-time WML panelists were surprised. People would rather invent outlandish conspiracy theories than face the obvious.

serf lol

@@rosemma34 Yes, the last thing Cerf would ever be thought of as was a "serf"!

@@robertfiller8634 Cerf's up

Frank Sinatra would have attested to Kilgallen's not letting anything get in the way of getting a good story.

@@nothingtodo58 No love lost there. He called her “the chinless wonder,” no?

Wife and mother? That's funny! In light of her affair with Johnny Ray.

You musta been into chinless uglies

@@dei1 superficial morons like you have no idea what appreciation for intelligence and elegance is.

@@dei1 is a sociopath.

@@dei1 no, I don't believe they are into your type, try that line next time on "what's your issue."

I wonder how it's possible to rate the degree of which various people feel pain and loss at the death of a dear friend.

He hated Dorothy because she was smarter than him

@@GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath there's definitely some truth to that but he clearly had a lot of love for her as well

@@forrestfootball He’s a con artist

​@@GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath why do you say that?

And trying to bring truth to our citizens 😢

The panelists were all highly intelligent, but I swear Dorothy Kilgallen was practically a genius. She was a regular Sherlock Holmes!

If she had not been murdered we would KNOW what led up to JFK's death.

I also liked what Steve Allen said about how their inability to guess the first three contestants (including the mystery guest) showed just how much Dorothy's absence was felt in the game. Of course, at other times when Dorothy was not on the show for one reason or another, the other panelists usually played well, but I think their inability to guess the lines reflected not only the loss of Dorothy's skill in the game but also the loss each of the panelists was feeling that made it hard for them to focus and play well. During the Maureen O'Sullivan segment, I could practically hear each of them thinking, "oh, if Dorothy were here, she'd be able to guess this one!"

SaveThe TPC Steve's tribute was pitch perfect-- just as his remarks about Fred Allen were on the episode following Fred's death.

SaveThe TPC She certainly played the game very well, as did so many of these panelists. No question about that. So many of these game show greats were such masterful game players...it made the shows that much funner to watch. What's My Line?

Dorothy used all her resources to try and figure out the lines. And when it came to mystery guests, she would try and remember knowing who was in town that week to see if they were the MG. The fact that they never found a full-time replacement for Dorothy (much like they never did for Fred Allen) showed how good a player she was. Phyllis Newman was the closest they came to a regular fill-in at that spot (Also adding Sue Oakland later).

Vahan Nisanian morning

& so R us who got 2 know her .

Very astute catch.

Same with Arlene. She looks like she hasn’t slept in a week.

"the perfect embodiment of intelligent and elegant "womanly charm" of that era, "the total lady", has to be Kitty Carlisle." Absolutely! But I see Arlene Francis running "neck and neck" with her. I also appreciate how both of them had long, loving marriages.

I have done an extensive thorough research about her death and strange circumstances concerning her demise ... and I strongly believe with all my heart that this beautiful charming lady was murdered 😔

@@rafaelramirez1507 Kilgallen was not murdered. She died of a fatal barbiturate/alcohol interaction, either suicidal or accidental. There was no evidence of a break-in, violence, or foul play. The incident was twice investigated (by the NYPD and the HSCA) and the case closed. In nearly 57 years, no one has been able to adduce solid evidence that would give credence to any different conclusion.

@@apointofinterest8574 I respect your opinion, but I still strongly believe that she was murdered ... the same as I feel about the mysterious deaths of Marilyn Monroe and George Reeves ... (❓)🤔 😔

@@rafaelramirez1507 It's not in the realm of "opinion." There's no evidence to support that which you "believe." It just comforts you to believe it.

@@apointofinterest8574 no it don't, it makes me feel sad to know that the police did not investigate properly , happened all the time back then

Yeah, I miss it too.

Watch earlier episodes. All remained seats during the goodbye handshakes.

Resurrection will be get Dorothy up from her sleep. Always is wrong, Christ will call Dorothy from the grave. First Corinthians 15:42.

💔🙏😥🥀🥀🥀🥀🥀

And she’s still going strong today at age 93.

Yeah, you're right. Today's stars are so full of themselves that they seem to have lost all sense of humility and that's a shame as it's what we need right now.

Blank expressions and blank minds as they stumbled through the first 3 contestants. No applause at the show's completion either.