What's My Line? - Wilt Chamberlain; Joan Crawford; Joey Bishop [panel] (Jan 8, 1961) 

Yes elderly people used to be given respect.

It’s called good manners. They did exist once.

Same!! 😁

I was born in 61 and find myself doing the same thing!

1959 for me!

They were earning a living and raising a family .

@@alexdadalt3441 Uh, okay, I guess.

Who would come on? Tik tokkers?

I agree. I can think of any number of mystery guests and even professions that didn’t exist then. The real challenge would be to find another John Daly.

Annoying too. Wilt The Stilt?? How insulting.

@@weedermann That was his nickname. He was used to it,

@@weedermann it’s no more insulting than Iron Mike Tyson. That was his billing

The best score for him was 5,000 women!

@@captainvin9009 actually wasn't it 10k women??

@@janetcarlson31His wikipedia page says his claim was 20,000 women.

Whenever you get a chance checkout her daughter’s Christina’s interview re her infamous autobiography Mommy Dearest.

Oh, you mean the book full of lies that was disputed by many? Joan's twins said she was an excellent mother. @@mona2242

Great response. Wilt was charming and so accomplished at a young age. He's probably about 25 yrs old here. RIP Wilt😍

And I loved when the store detective shook all their hands and they responded so warmly.

+Purple Capricorn -- He's one of my favorite guests -- I love his deadpan delivery of funny lines. They're all the funnier because they're spoken as though they're serious comments when, in fact, they're humorous.

ToddSF 94109 It's hilarious. Ive seen him crack a few times though.

I enjoyed his late-night talk show on ABC in the late 1960's, opposite Johnny Carson, 11:30 p.m. to 1 a.m. He was funny and that serious delivery of funny lines worked so nicely. The only problem with "The Joey Bishop Show" was that his sidekick was Regis Philbin.

ToddSF 94109 Eek! I like Regis,but I don't think that was a good match up.

Purple Capricorn -- You're welcome to like Regis. I can't stand him myself.

bt10ant Basketball royalty. You lucky duck!

Wow, that's interesting! I'm from Wisconsin and followed the Big O's career intently since he played for the Bucks, and he and Lew Alcindor/Kareem Abdul-Jabbar were my two favorite players growing up, but it wasn't until recently that I heard that Robertson was not the friendliest person.

Well one of those two daughters wrote the book mommy dearest. There was something “dark” and unsettling about her.

@@leesher1845 I agree, as a matter of fact, I sensed Crawford’s hypocrisy in this clip. There was something just not genuine in the way she smiled and moved. I read the book and absolutely believe every word .

@@leesher1845 Actually, neither of those two girls had anything to do with writing Mommy Dearest. It was her first daughter, Christina, that wrote the book.

@@brkitdwn I have been doing nothing all day today but watching things about Joan Crawford. Did you see the documentary made by friends and some family saying Christina was mentally ill and that book was all lies?? Pretty interesting. But I still get a vibe from her that she could be hard as nails!!

@Puccini Fan I thought the reference was to Joan Crawford being "dark and unsettling". She sure it! And the daughters looked frightened even here.

James Sn Those guys have been dealing with height related comments since they were little.

All the way to 1999 it's mostly all non-sports interviewers could seem to think to say to him

Although he might well have been tired of such things, he gave no indication of it on this episode.

You got something against Duck Dynasty and Real Housewives of Orange County?

Culture, critical books and publishing, serious film and art are all being pushed to the margins of today's society in order to mass produce cheap entertainment, such is the attention span of an undereducated mass. WML was a reminder that art (books and plays) and refinement were still a vital part of American society, even if it did help mask what was happening in Vietnam and Selma.

He was a cheeky fella, so I feel ya on that one. Was a cool move by him :-)

😂

he was very well spoken

I do, too. Like her, it's stunningly beauuuuuutiful!!! ❤️❤️❤️

I think its because its something lacking in the world today..I grew up during this time and it had its bad times as well as good just as today has but overall ppl seemed to have manners.

especially for authority figures--teachers, police, etc.

You said it! The mystery guests are great, but usually I find the "regular" guest segments more entertaining overall.

Well said. But then not everyone is interested in 'the show' like we are. Henry Fonda fans looking for Henry Fonda will get here and just spin forward to Henry Fonda. I'm here to watch the whole show each time because I willingly gave up my TV licence so this is 'my TV' watching for the evening, cast to my TV!! :)

Yes, many of us who've played jazz for 5 decades have always appreciated the very skillful composing talents of Sasha Burland.... the WML theme is a favorite.

Leek America was NEVER so. That is why AMERICA is the anagram: I AM RACE. Sadly so it has been and remains in 2019:/

Sorry but racism existed

Leek I agree with you 👍

Angela Joseph You need help. Badly.

LegitPlays It did, it does, it always will. It’s human nature.

To an extent. Baseball was still king around this time. The NFL (and also the AFL pre-merger) was starting to make its ascent, as was the NBA. Had this been 1982 or 1991, or had he been Mickey Mantle, Yogi Berra, Willie Mays, etc., then he would be a true Mystery Guest by WML standards.

His voice like his PHYSIQUE changed dramatically by the end of his career.

Don't you think he sounds more like The Skipper rather than the Professor?

@@waldolydecker8118 😄

She was indeed a spokeswoman for Pepsi. But she also became a member of the Board of Directors of the corporation, at a time when no women had ever been CEO of a Fortune 500 company. By the 1950s a few women were directors of Fortune 500 companies, mostly due to their status as widows of men who had been directors. Somewhat ironically, the first major corporation to have a female director was the Coca-Cola Company, some 25 years before Crawford became a director of Pepsi.

She was a spokeswoman/promoter of Pepsi Cola, and she was also on the Board of Directors.

TheWriterWalker Poor Bennett had trouble getting up on his chair while much younger Joey was on his and still shorter than impressive Wilt Chamberlain, the BIG DIPPER as he preferred to be called rather than Wilt the Stilt. RIP wonderful Christmas Wilt Chamberlain.

I found it very disturbing to hear her describe one of the shoplifters as a 'colored' woman, in the same episode as having a black athlete.

@@janetcarlson31 Same here! Very disturbing, especially in reference to her having been caught shoplifting. MacAvoy probably paid special attention to Black customers.

Lovely to see the panel's consideration for an elderly person. There are those who would have liked to see her run off the show and cancelled.

And teaching children about hanging up their clothes properly and trimming roses.

She was fanatical

@@SymphonyBrahms And beating them if they didn't. . .

She was an Alcoholic monster who beat her kids

His best record is bedding 5,000 women

@@captainvin9009 I thought it was 10,000?

Mike Hudson 58

NO!....FIFTY-SEVEN!!!-----It has been -----finally----settled.....1904- 1977......

I wish she had not gone with the heavy brows and eye makeup. When she was starting out a cameraman said her face was built, but nobody was going to see it under all her fat. She immediately lost 20 lbs. She took thousands of pictures with photographer George Hurrell, she always wanted one more picture. She knew her youth and beauty were fleeting, thank God it was captured. The pictures are art.

@gcjerryusc well those are actually her real eyebrows, when she was younger she plucked them.

@@sarasmith5110 Come on, at FIFTY-SEVEN she looks fantastic for the period-----before TODAY, when Dermatology has transformed women and stars that are 70 look 50----CHER being a rather, well, extreme example (grotesque, really) of what Science has accomplished cosmetically----a lot of those beautiful women (observe the great beauty of Vivien Leigh!) look old by the time they are fifty....A pity.....

Yes with the two children she didn’t abuse.

She was to me. You must think Kim Kardashian is a legend. @nickxero2740

"Humoresque", "Possessed", and "Harriet Craig" are also very good.

@reina coffee - It was "What Ever Happened to Baby Jane" - not "Hudson".

@@SymphonyBrahms IMO, she should have gotten the Oscar for Possessed!! She was so good in that!!!

The McAvoy store detective looked to be in her 80s...the oldest contestant I've seen in WML.

2dasimmons a guy that saw Lincoln get killed was on the show, he was much older

@@mylifeisaparty It was on a different show, I've Got a Secret

D.B. Johnston oh, my apologies.

@@mylifeisaparty Check out Pop Carter on YBYL, he was 102

Please don't hate. I hate haters

The thick eyebrows and the bony cheeks were her trademark.

@@SymphonyBrahms as were the shoulder pads

I very much doubt it.

In front of the cameras, sure. But once the cameras were off, she was beating and neglecting her son and daughter, Christopher and Christina.

Mommy Dearest

@@georgiesinclair6951 I agree!

@@TheRetroGuy2000 pfff no

You haven’t seen mommy dearest huh

She retired in December of 1960, and was 88 at that point, so... Yeah, likely.

According to a Find A Grave entry attributed to Emily McAvoy was born in 1880 but no death date was given.

I wonder where Christina was?

Christina at this point was appearing in small roles in minor films. She was also doing summer stock theater. Also made the rounds of some talk shows. It's rather nice to see the twins. It's also clear from their body language that they respected and loved their mother. I'm not saying Christina is a liar. I believe her stories. Not everyone in Hollywood took Joan's side. Most prominently: Eve Arden and Helen Hayes sided with Christina in the brouhaha. Joan clearly treated the twins differently, and they responded in kind. Only two of the four adopted children are still alive. Christina and Cathy. Cynthia died in 2007 and Christopher passed away in September 2006.

Mrs. McAvoy, the store detective, is still alive as of May 10, 2017. She just celebrated her 139th birthday which makes her the oldest woman in the world. She can only work part time now, but last week she tackled a shoplifter and put him in a choke hold until police arrived.

sfbayareagirl Rather younger Sharon reminds you of Miss Crawford:-/

@@angelajoseph6709 yeah because of her hair style here

You mean Sharon Stone reminds you of Joan Crawford?

+Patti Whitington you & 20,000 other women................

No I grew up watching him play. Love me basketball worth watching.

+orgonko the wildly untamed Paul Pierce fer me :)

He does have the best nickname in all of sports. The Big Unit being number 2.

It’s called Hollywood manners , not necessarily sincere respect. The entertainment business was & is one big cocktail show.

Mrs. McAvoy had been working at the store since 1897 - that's amazing!

She wasn’t that old, early 50’s… but it was Joan Crawford!

@@KevinMontreal she was 57

She only 57 😆 hardly elderly. To be fair, she looks early 70's here

What do we now know? I am not very familiar with her.

Well the twins weren’t the ones who complained it was Christopher and Christina

Doubt they had any choice to be there. Mommy dearest called all the shots.

The two young women looked fatigued and recessive. We now know why, after "Mommy Dearest," which may have told only part of the history.

Am I the only one to have noticed the goose egg on the one's forehead...?

Wilt averaged 30 PPG for his career, and hit 54% of his shots from the floor. Bill Russell averaged 15 PPG and hit 44% of his shots for his career. Their rebounding and playmaking were comparable. Some think Russell was better because he won all those titles (11), but I say if you trade the two - put Wilt on Boston, they NEVER lose a title.

An a record that will never be broken: Wilt Chamberlain scored 100 points in one single regular season NBA GAME! NEVER EVER, BET YOUR LIFE, WILL THAT RECORD BE BROKEN!

@@robbybonfire9944 Would you say he was better than Jordan?

@@janetcarlson31 yes. I also say Magic and Oscar were better than Michael. Look at their points scored per missed shot. Look at their dr and assists per minutes played. I grew up in Philly so I am biased for Wilt but wish he had Red Auerbach as his coach. Red was the real difference in favor of Boston back in the day.

Alas Jordan is not only the most clutch player with highest scoring average ever he is also an all time defender. So no..those two are not as good as him.

@gcjerryusc of course not. 'Evidence ' found a way of disappearing, depending on the scenario.

Me too!

Yep Manuel.

Read Vincent Bugliosi's book "Reclaiming History" he debunks all the conspiracy nonsense, including any regarding Ms. Kilgallen.

@@Satyric7 thank you for suggestion

Dumb bitches wear flip flops in public.

windstorm1000 Wearing slippers these days out of the house is so atrocious

You mean... they dress like they want to like regular people? How dare they!

Her secret to looking so glamorous was not using wire hangers-- in her closet!

they have fans who made them rich, they owe it to the fans although i wouldnt waste my breath on any ''celebrity'' today.

Dee Cee What a douche! We all know what he did to NatLie Wood!

You mean he didn't attempt to drown her, too.

I understand that she cornered a teenaged Jerry Mathers (Leave It to Beaver) in a swimming pool once and that he ran for his life.

@@SymphonyBrahms Does anyone know about her short but torrid affair with Marilyn Monroe?? Joan fell hard for Marilyn. Marilyn used Joan strictly to reach orgasms!! She rarely did with men.

@Tania Orlov Tinn Lady please with that. And how would these other people, whom you CHOOSE to believe, know what went on behind closed doors?

Galileocan g She really didn't seem to be all there. It's hard to believe she could have been an effective store detective, when she doesn't even seem to understand the point of the show she's on.

+Galileocan g -- Clearly the woman was no longer playing with a full deck.

And she made the "colored woman" reference right after Wilt Chamberlain had appeared as a contestant, too.

That was actually the "appropriate" and polite term in those days. "Black" was not in play until a few years later after the Civil Rights Movement, and "African-American" was a long way off. This woman was born in 1880, and 81 yrs old at this time, so expecting her to be socially forward-looking is a stretch. The NAACP stands for the "National Association for the Advancement of Colored People," hello.

Galileocan g Doesn't matter how politically correct she was. Today, identifying someone by their ethnicity would be a big no-no today.

You mean men? JC was a man.

@@Amandadances1983 ugh i hate when people disrespect people they have never met, and in my opinion shes a gorgous glamour girl

I knew John was tall, and while he obviously didn't measure up to Wilt, I was surprised he wasn't dwarfed by him like the panelists. Sitting down, they were almost the same height (although perhaps they adjusted the seats for a better camera shot).

@@alskndlaskndal Bennett Cerf was taller than John by a fraction of an inch.

Actually it's the other way around - John was taller by a half inch or less. He was 6'1" whereas Bennett was 6 feet and just under an inch. They sometimes play argued over who was taller but they were almost exactly the same height.

@@sdacj No, John came on and when he and Bennett got into height talk before 7 footer Wilt Chamberlain came out, John conceded he was just a little shorter than Bennett. But poor li'l Joey Bishop was still shorter than Wilt even standing on chair. RIP gentlemen😍

Hmm....there was another episode where John said he was taller and Bennett accepted it. We will probably never know, especially the way they kidded each other all the time. All in good fun, though! As you say RIP to them.

Yes, doesn't she?

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