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@LegalEagle
@LegalEagle 3 года назад
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@cormacmacsuibhne2867
@cormacmacsuibhne2867 3 года назад
Any plans for Christmas?
@cakeller98
@cakeller98 3 года назад
@yung sh4d0w that’s the excuse. but SCOTUS should be BALANCED regardless of size.
@user-xr4wp3wj5m
@user-xr4wp3wj5m 3 года назад
yes
@raawesome3851
@raawesome3851 3 года назад
In my opinion, if they are doing this for a political gain, and to suppress republican votes, then no. If they are doing this for another reason, I'd have to ask what their reasoning is for it. It should be even, though.
@brendathompson2288
@brendathompson2288 3 года назад
@yung sh4d0w Who is a commie?
@koloqial
@koloqial 3 года назад
Not an American, but this channel has given me such a great insight into the US legal system. Everything is digestible and easy to understand. Thanks Devin!
@crimsonhawk52
@crimsonhawk52 3 года назад
This channel should not be your solitary source of info if you intend to learn about the US legal system, as the author tends to present information that benefits one political party over the other, and equally importantly, chooses not to present information that does the opposite, even when relevant to the discussion. But the format of the videos is certainly excellent and easily digestible!
@koloqial
@koloqial 3 года назад
@@crimsonhawk52 What other sources could you suggest to balance it out?
@koloqial
@koloqial 3 года назад
@aaron guest Of course. Could you suggest some other reliable sources?
@rickross9829
@rickross9829 3 года назад
@@crimsonhawk52 Well actually he only presents information that is confirmable...
@rickross9829
@rickross9829 3 года назад
@@crimsonhawk52 Are you someone that tends to believe anonymous commenters on faith and instinct?
@csours
@csours 3 года назад
I gotta say this McConnell character is unbelievable. No one is that hypocritical in real life. I think you need to do a re-write.
@GamesFromSpace
@GamesFromSpace 3 года назад
He's so one dimensional, I just want his inevitable and predictable comeuppance to happen and then never see the character again.
@winser21
@winser21 3 года назад
They're all hypocritical in the interests of their parties. McConnell, Graham, but also Schumer and the Democrats fighting against ACB's hearing on the same basis as McConnell's for Garland's hearing.
@freakyzed8467
@freakyzed8467 3 года назад
Having a handlebar moustache that he could twirl while laughing sinisterly would complete the look.
@chaseblauvelt7008
@chaseblauvelt7008 3 года назад
He's not a hypocrite because he's totally nihilistic. He doesn't have principles for others which he doesn't follow. He just straight up has no principles
@BrianHolmes
@BrianHolmes 3 года назад
@@winser21 Ten months from an election is much different than two weeks. YOUR bias is showing.
@richardcheng7622
@richardcheng7622 3 года назад
Honestly this channel has the most underrated subtle burns and pop cultural references, and the smoothest translation to sponsor.
@hannibalburgers477
@hannibalburgers477 3 года назад
Did you meant transition?
@justicebrewing9449
@justicebrewing9449 3 года назад
It’s well produced. But he’s basically a shock jock that will talk up anything. It’s all ratings driven. No depth to his show. Just flash and low hanging fruit treated like... low hanging fruit.
@janaleland9038
@janaleland9038 3 года назад
@@justicebrewing9449 i would not have known any of that had you not informed me. I find LE extremely interesting and I'm able to understand his explanations-teachings better than i can understand my legal eagle Harvard brother, Dan Wolf, of DemocracyCounts.org, also a professor of international law. I'd much rather listen to LE and THEN discuss-question with Dan. It just seems to me you are keying 'sour grapes'.
@seaturtlepoppy7679
@seaturtlepoppy7679 3 года назад
@@janaleland9038 - the quotation marks added some snap to its contents 😃
@jamesduffy7549
@jamesduffy7549 3 года назад
"all lawyers have to learn to write well" Sidney Powell: and I took that personally
@mathirojust7402
@mathirojust7402 3 года назад
To be honest i wished for an episode about the number of laws that santa breaks while crossing borders to deliver presents
@ojrmk1
@ojrmk1 3 года назад
Definitely breaks some aviation ordinances by flying at higher than supersonic speeds near population centers.
@Creationweek
@Creationweek 3 года назад
He has an army of elves, he probably has all the required visas and permits. Also his sleigh is magic so probably does not actually fly at supersonic speeds. Also is it breaking an entering when we all leave milk and cookies out inviting him into our homes?
@ulrichkalber9039
@ulrichkalber9039 3 года назад
@@Creationweek you mean it is NOT breaking and entering if he is invited...
@Fritzy1587
@Fritzy1587 3 года назад
@@ulrichkalber9039 I'm sure he could get by in a court of law insisting that the leaving of milk and cookies was an implicit invitation for him to enter the house lol
@AustynSN
@AustynSN 3 года назад
I've always wondered about how many patent laws he breaks in building computers, game systems, toys, etc.
@capncrackfiend
@capncrackfiend 3 года назад
“All lawyers have to learn to write well.” *Stares at The Kraken*
@blake60ah41
@blake60ah41 3 года назад
Some take longer than others to learn to write proficiently
@tom_ad9343
@tom_ad9343 3 года назад
Typos, running hair dye, and parking lot press conferences force those with 'superior intellect' to stare at things they otherwise might not.
@SimGunther
@SimGunther 3 года назад
*Stares at the oligarchy*
@archlab007
@archlab007 3 года назад
She, rights just fine
@Pro_Butcher_Amateur_Human
@Pro_Butcher_Amateur_Human 3 года назад
@ARCH Lab7 Based on your sentence, I don't think you're qualified to _judge_ that. Pun intended.
@marc-antoinegagne2951
@marc-antoinegagne2951 Год назад
I remember researching about this a few years ago. Mexico made a solid point that 11 justices is a magical number for a supreme court. It allows to spread common tasks more evenly, and even to split the court in two to hear leaves of appeal by forming set panels of 5 justices.
@a24396
@a24396 3 года назад
"...hang on like grim death until the Angel Gabriel blows the horn." Why can't the politicians and Government officials talk like this now? As long as we have to listen to them they might as well be clever/ entertaining.
@aoikemono6414
@aoikemono6414 3 года назад
They do. You just miss it when there's 99.9% noise out there.
@dwc1964
@dwc1964 3 года назад
16:37 - "... all lawyers have to write really well." Me, a word processor for corporate lawyers: I dispute this claim.
@TheAwesome45
@TheAwesome45 3 года назад
Also me, a 1L whose read judge’s decisions.
@dwc1964
@dwc1964 3 года назад
@@TheAwesome45 sorry, but doing my job here: *who's *judges'
@dwc1964
@dwc1964 3 года назад
@@TheAwesome45 What do you call a lawyer with an IQ of 50? . . . . . . . . Your Honor
@jonribeiro266
@jonribeiro266 3 года назад
Devin's seamless transition to a skillshare pitch is always incredible and gets me every time
@johnjones_1501
@johnjones_1501 3 года назад
When we talk about the life expectancy in the past being in the 30s, something you must keep in mind is that this included everyone. Infant mortality was pretty high at the time, so if you made it to your toddler age, you could expect to live significantly longer, if you were a boy. The other big killer were women dying young in child birth, and kids dying from things like small pox. If you were an male who made it to age 20, you could pretty much expect to make it to your seventies,.
@Mentisia
@Mentisia 3 года назад
I looked it up: still just over 50 in 1790s (Change and Persistence in the Age of Modernization, 2020)
@ryankelly2109
@ryankelly2109 3 года назад
Law degrees across the world don't spend enough time teaching history.
@seaturtlepoppy7679
@seaturtlepoppy7679 3 года назад
@@ryankelly2109 - but what sounds better to a jury/judge/whoever? A nice mathematical statistic or an essay answer? You just made me wonder about historical law and how many people specialize in it ...
@Sean-xq3qo
@Sean-xq3qo 3 года назад
Not necessarily the 70's due to things like smoking and poor medical care later in life. But certainly your 50's or 60s. Even in ancient times, once you made it to adulthood, you were expected to make it to your middle ages unless you were murdered or died in war.
@merrymachiavelli2041
@merrymachiavelli2041 3 года назад
@@Sean-xq3qo Sure, although, 'life expectancy at judicial appointment' would have been higher still, given that most people appointed to be judges would been high socio-economic status men in their 40s-50s, who would have 'dodged the bullet' of mortality due to combat and would also, probably, be less likely to die from homicide, workplace accidents or poverty-related morality. Given the Founding Fathers were also mainly high socio-economic status men in their 40s-50s (often with a legal background to boot), they probably were able to imagine justices living into their 80s or early 90s.
@mikeappleyard1898
@mikeappleyard1898 2 года назад
Listening to this video kind of makes one wonder if the entire judicial system's integrity is nothing more than a house of cards because of the insanely partisan nature of the judges appointed by the parties in power.
@Jay-vc6pf
@Jay-vc6pf Год назад
AND BOOM ROE IS OVERTURNED AND SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE . We are screwed .
@Nimelennar
@Nimelennar 3 года назад
"If you want to get to the Supreme Court, you have to write really well. In fact, all lawyers have to write well. Which is why I'm recommending this course teaching you how to write fiction."
@MagmarFire
@MagmarFire 3 года назад
You'd be surprised as to how many legal documents have been written in prose.
@BaronSengir1008
@BaronSengir1008 3 года назад
@@MagmarFire Well, it would probably be a bit awkward if they were written in poetry...
@Chas-OTE
@Chas-OTE 3 года назад
@@BaronSengir1008 Awkward? Sure. Potentially more entertaining? Most definitely 😆
@noesunyoutuber7680
@noesunyoutuber7680 3 года назад
@@Chas-OTE There once was a man from Nantucket...
@emeraldkat2167
@emeraldkat2167 3 года назад
@@noesunyoutuber7680 who murdered his wife with a bucket. As he sat in his trial, his lawyer spewed bile, and eventually he just just said "aw f*ck it!" I just had to take a whack at it. My brain won't leave those alone.
@AntZen85
@AntZen85 3 года назад
Objection! 9:28 Life expectancy statistics of that time were not reflective of the average lifespan of a healthy person who lived past age 18. It is instead indicative of infant mortality rates being much higher then. Generally speaking if you lived to 18 during that time, you made it to 60+ at about the same general rate as modern Americans do. Using it in the context of the upper limits of average lifespans during that time is not accurate and slightly misleading. Otherwise great informative video! Love your content and thanks for explaining the history and modern events surrounding this controversy!
@SamAronow
@SamAronow 3 года назад
I wish people would bring this up more.
@GumaroRVillamil
@GumaroRVillamil 3 года назад
Yes and no. Modern medicine has greatly increased life expectancy beyond lowering infant mortality. In the time before antibiotics and vaccines any number of now easily treatable or preventable diseases would have been a death sentence, no matter your age.
@ruukinen
@ruukinen 3 года назад
@@GumaroRVillamil Still living to 80 years or so was completely normal even 200 years back.
@GumaroRVillamil
@GumaroRVillamil 3 года назад
@@ruukinen yes, but a far lower percentage of the population reached that age than today
@dontmisunderstand6041
@dontmisunderstand6041 3 года назад
The only point being made by your objections is that wealth has a proportionally smaller impact on mortality rates today than it did back then.
@MonkeyJedi99
@MonkeyJedi99 3 года назад
McScrottle really roasts my chestnuts. "Half a year is too close to the election of the next President, so I will refuse to even let the Senate even vote on the nominated candidate." - Four years later: - "We need to seat a justice even though it is less than three months until the election, so I will make sure to twist arms and get this nomination rammed through the Senate." - And this is the same group of career politicians who removed the rule requiring a 60% margin to confirm all judicial appointments, and this year Lindsey Graham lamented that "it is something we can't fix" - But it IS something the Senate can "fix" by the same process with which they lowered the margin to 50%. It's easy to figure out, if you can chainsaw through the rampant egos and institutional stubbornness.
@natecorbett5305
@natecorbett5305 3 года назад
All while stealing the 6th hourrux from Voldemort's grave
@Park501
@Park501 3 года назад
additionally they did it whilst ignoring the deceased justices dying wishes, so disgusting, don't know how anyone can say they did it in good faith
@HC130P8419
@HC130P8419 3 года назад
@@Park501 Dying wishes of government employees are utterly meaningless.
@ryuzakikun96
@ryuzakikun96 3 года назад
It was Harry Reid, the Democratic Senate majority leader at the time that did away with the 60% threshold for confirming judicial nominees. And like the other commenter said, the dying wishes of a justice should have no bearing on who the President nominates or if the Senate will begin a confirmation hearing.
@coolkid7151
@coolkid7151 3 года назад
Pelosi did the same exact thing 🤦🏼‍♂️
@ignitionfrn2223
@ignitionfrn2223 2 года назад
3:10 - Chapter 1 - History of the judiciary act ? 4:15 - Chapter 2 - The civil war era 5:35 - Chapter 3 - The judiciary in 2020 10:40 - Chapter 4 - The inherent flaws of court packing 11:55 - Chapter 5 - What else can be done to reform the supreme court 13:25 - Chapter 6 - Term limits 14:15 - Chapter 7 - Bigger court & panel review 16:45 - End roll ads
@guss77
@guss77 3 года назад
The Israeli supreme court has 15 justices that hear cases in panels of 3, 5 or 7 justices as determined by the head justice according to their significance. This allows the court to hear about 10000 cases a year. This is about the same case load as if the US supreme court heard every case it was petitioned for and then again half of that. Also justices retire at 70 years old - like in England.
@guss77
@guss77 3 года назад
Also, Israeli justices are not appointed by a political process, but are nominated by a professional process and then represented by a committee made up of a third elected politicians, a third elected bar representatives and a third unaffiliated public representatives. So the Israeli supreme court is astoundingly apolitical and as a result they have been taking a lot of flak in recent years for being too "ivory tower" and not addressing "the plight of the people". So maybe that system isn't so good either.
@EebstertheGreat
@EebstertheGreat 3 года назад
Normally just three judges though, unless their decision gets appealed to a larger panel. I find that system interesting and a bit surprising. Of course, the role of the SCOI is somewhat different from SCOTUS, and as I understand it, the precedent for changing the enforcement of Knesset law is relatively young. So they aren't directly comparable.
@user-nf9xc7ww7m
@user-nf9xc7ww7m 3 года назад
I like the IG system that I read in a book (Psyber War). The inspector-general (IG) is the chief justice and figurehead head of state, but he has teams of justices for various constitutional issues (eg speech, religion, federalism)--essemtially meaning the supreme court has 90ish justices, but don't all meet together. Each team (5 members) reviews the case and submits their recommendation to the IG (eg unconstitutional and why, constitutional). The IG usually signs off on it. For fellow commonwealth members, this is like a governor-general that proactively conducts judicial review (rather than reactive judicial review that requires someone to file case), but has absolutely no executive power.
@guss77
@guss77 3 года назад
@@EebstertheGreat as far as I understand, a SCOI decision can't be appealed, even if given with a panel of only 3 justices - and I have never heard of such a thing. OTOH, 5 justices panels happen from time to time and with high profile cases - especially "High Justice Court" cases - a 7 justice panel is common. Which is the major thing that the Israeli court differs from the US court, IMHO: in cases of a citizen against governmental bodies, a case may be filed directly with the supreme court as the "High Justice Court", which is where the (indeed relatively new) theory of being able to cancel legislation can take practice. So yes - the courts aren't very similar in their duties, but I'd claim that the with a similar setup SCOTUS can be much improved in taking its current duties, and it will likely leave them time to maybe exercise some Israeli style "High Justice".
@EebstertheGreat
@EebstertheGreat 3 года назад
@@guss77 I think it's called a "petition for further hearing" (rather than an appeal). But it definitely happens, both in appellate and original (high court of justice) cases. It can sit with any odd number of justices, but in most low-profile cases it has just three. In a rehearing, I think there has to be more than three (not sure about that though).
@jeremychoo934
@jeremychoo934 3 года назад
By way of comparison, while the UK’s Supreme Court has more judges than SCOTUS, it very rarely sits in banc. Most appeals are heard by divisions of 5 judges with some of the more important cases heard by divisions of 7 or up to 9 judges. As was pointed out in the video, this potentially allows the Court to hear more cases. In the UK, judicial time is not 100% devoted to hearing appeals and writing judgments and the Justices often have other administrative responsibilities which may also take up a substantial part of their working day. The Supreme Court has a Registry which makes administrative decisions as to what cases come before any particular division based on a number of factors such as Counsels’ and each judge’s availability and subject matter expertise. For example, the Registry is unlikely to include a judge whose expertise is family law in appeal involving an IP dispute although if it’s necessary to make up numbers to have 5 judges, that can sometimes happen. With so many permutations, it’s very unlikely that any party will be able to pick and choose which division or which judge(s) the appeal will be heard by. As to whether the Registry may be prevailed upon to include or exclude certain judges from hearing an appeal, while anything is possible in theory, the Registry is generally above reproach.
@tarod3
@tarod3 3 года назад
How I envy the UK
@SerenityM54L2SAM5L5N1
@SerenityM54L2SAM5L5N1 3 года назад
@@tarod3 The country is in a mess politically though. Although they'd be worse off with Labor in power, hence why the party performed the worst that it ever has since 1920 in the recent election.
@liyifenn
@liyifenn 3 года назад
This should be pinned.
@lukebraithwaite8652
@lukebraithwaite8652 3 года назад
The UK supreme court doesn't have divisions. There are 12 justices and 5 normally sit on each case. The panel is chosen based on what the case is about. So a Scottish case would normally have both the Scottish judges on the panel. The court only sits 11 judges in cases of constitutional importance. They have only been two cases where this has happened: the prorogation case and the article 50 cases. The only courts with divisions (in England and wales) are the High Court and the Court of Appeal.
@jeremychoo934
@jeremychoo934 3 года назад
@@lukebraithwaite8652 Distinguish between “Division” in the High Court and and Court of Appeal and my generic reference to “division” in my comment.
@polarisator9892
@polarisator9892 3 года назад
For comparison: In Germany there 16 judges on the "Bundesverfassungsgericht" (federal constitutional court). They are equally appointed by the Bundestag and Bundesrat and can serve for 1 term of 12 years, as long as they are younger, than 68 years. They are divided in two "Senate" with 3 "Kammern" each, taking care of cases of different topics. There is a lot more to it, but that system seems a lot more modern, imo.
@joman563
@joman563 3 года назад
Is it coincidence that there are as many constitutional judges as German Länder?
@ulrichkalber9039
@ulrichkalber9039 3 года назад
@@joman563 yes it is. to my knowledge it has been like that before the new Länder entered.
@polarisator9892
@polarisator9892 3 года назад
@@joman563 Probably. The number changed several times.
@stormelemental13
@stormelemental13 3 года назад
Because it is more modern. Our constitution and its systems of government are 231 years old. Yours are 71, or 30 depending on how you want to look at it.
@sarawarlestedt7242
@sarawarlestedt7242 3 года назад
You should have a playlist of “basic stuff” or “legale(a)se” . Like the USA has a Supreme Court. The constitution was written why? Circuit court? Why a jury? Hung jury? What is the bar? What is an amendment? Top ten ways to get tackled in court.
@lexprontera8325
@lexprontera8325 3 года назад
Yes! Please do that!
@valentinewiggin7782
@valentinewiggin7782 3 года назад
YES!
@aceofarrows
@aceofarrows 3 года назад
I think we all very much need Top 10 Ways to Get the Baliff to Tackle You.
@sarawarlestedt7242
@sarawarlestedt7242 3 года назад
@@aceofarrows yes!
@glenmorrison8080
@glenmorrison8080 3 года назад
Mitch McConnell looks like a claymation parody of himself.
@travis1240
@travis1240 3 года назад
It's the human skin over the lizard skin that gives him an uncanny appearance.
@valentinewiggin7782
@valentinewiggin7782 3 года назад
I shouldn't have laughed at that, but I did anyway.
@jjones7837
@jjones7837 3 года назад
Under rated Comment. Well played.
@lottiboddi1425
@lottiboddi1425 3 года назад
@@jjones7837 i second that
@longforgotten4823
@longforgotten4823 3 года назад
I like England’s approach. Judges of the age of 70 are off the bench.
@murraybeachtel8585
@murraybeachtel8585 3 года назад
That is ageist since many people that are over 70 are as sharp as they ever were. There should be a process like for the president where they can be deemed mentally unfit if the signs are there.
@jamiengo2343
@jamiengo2343 3 года назад
British. It’s the British Supreme Court.
@mikebaker3152
@mikebaker3152 3 года назад
Law of England & Wales (not Scotland which has its own laws and courts) overseen by Supreme Court. But justices not political. At least, not as yet.
@nileman9907
@nileman9907 3 года назад
@@murraybeachtel8585 Except it makes sense since the world is an everevolving place and we keep being more dependent on technology, an older person who is not up to touch at all with that might not have the context and insight to make a good decision.
@gamernerd3785
@gamernerd3785 3 года назад
I think it would be much better just to have terms that last for a number of years instead of life.
@quinnmendel449
@quinnmendel449 3 года назад
The fact that we are even having this discussion says a lot about the perceived impartiality (and therefore the perceived justice) from the Supreme Court. If it continues as-is, the public will continue to lose faith in our justice system, as a whole.
@shkotayd9749
@shkotayd9749 3 года назад
“All lawyers have to learn to write well.” Powell be Kraken Lacking.
@kitwhite2640
@kitwhite2640 3 года назад
LMAO I haven't heard Kraka Lacking in a long time. I like your version
@DenisMaksymowicz
@DenisMaksymowicz 3 года назад
It merely appears to me as a 'sine qua non', move along, nothing to see here
@shkotayd9749
@shkotayd9749 3 года назад
@@DenisMaksymowicz The need to learn and speak well is absolutely...merely essential....move along? Better recheck your use of the term, as it seems you think the need is a nonissue lol.
@nobodyknows3180
@nobodyknows3180 3 года назад
@@kitwhite2640 egg xaka lacky!
@DenisMaksymowicz
@DenisMaksymowicz 3 года назад
@@shkotayd9749 thank you "and" was what I meant to say. Thx for the correction
@joehemmann1156
@joehemmann1156 3 года назад
Objection: You've misused life expectancy (in fairness, you've misused it in the way the vast majority of people do, but still). In 1789, life expectancy may have been 34 years old. But that really doesn't speak to how long a justice could be expected to live once appointed to the Supreme Court. The term "life expectancy" as you will almost always find it would be more appropriately expressed as "life expectancy at birth". The reason the number was so low in 1789 had much more to do with obscenely high infant mortality rates than the likelihood of someone 40+ years old randomly keeling over. If you wanted one child to live to adulthood, you had six. But the 5 that died are still in that 34 year average calculation. The concept still applies today, although your life expectancy after you exit infancy (and again after you get into your twenties since mid to late teens is another high mortality rate time of life) does not change as much as it did in 1789. Our infant mortality rates are nowhere near what they were at that time. That said, I could not find a proper life expectancy table for 1789 (which would express your expected death age over time as you aged), but suffice to say that if you were old enough to be appointed to the Supreme Court, you could almost certainly be expected to live for another decade or more, making the idea that life expectancy was somehow tied to the decision of the founders to not place term limits on justices very unlikely.
@gazamidori2866
@gazamidori2866 3 года назад
The data you need to use is roman census data. While it's technically tangential in the fact that 2k years worth of medical advancements happened, modern medicine as we know it was not practiced at both of these times.
@Tiny_Sequoia
@Tiny_Sequoia 3 года назад
This paper has a table for life expediencies before 1900 based on family tree histories (not medical text, but better than nothing). Table on page 12 gives the life expectancy from 1790-99 to be around 62 at age 20, 64 at age 30, and 70 if you've managed to live to age 50: core.ac.uk/download/pdf/6852826.pdf
@ObjectsInMotion
@ObjectsInMotion 3 года назад
Objection: You've fallen for a myth that's pretty common when people object to historical life expectancies. According to this paper: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2885717/ The male life expectancy at 20 years of age was still only 41.4 years in the 1790s. Higher than the expectancy at birth of 34 yes, but nowhere near what it is today. People really did not live as long as they do today, even a simple heart attack had virtually no chance of survivability. Even a hospital in the developing world has access to ventilators and basic antibiotics that alone allow for decades of survivability that was just not possible in the 1700s. Yes, people did often live to their 80s, 90s, even 100s back then just as they do today, but the key difference is that it was a significantly lower proportion of the population than do today.
@joehemmann1156
@joehemmann1156 3 года назад
@@ObjectsInMotion granted, but the point I was making was not that people lived as long as they do now, but more the idea that how quickly after they were appointed to the Supreme Court they could be expected to die was somehow a factor in it being ok for the appointments to be lifelong. Even if they could only be expected to live 20 years after their appointment, that's 5 presidential terms. If the worry is that they could become too entrenched in their placements, I would think 5 presidential terms would already be worrisome.
@nubworthycigars6682
@nubworthycigars6682 3 года назад
You’re not entirely incorrect(meaning you’re the facts of what you are saying, minus the assumption about the founders at the end as that’s speculation(all anyone can do is speculate even if you’ve actually read the federalist papers, and other contemporary writings))... the thing about statistics is the data can be interpreted in many ways, especially averages, as opposed to 2+2=4 (no room for interpretation). My questions to you what is the source of data we should use to make this assessment? What average methodology was used to make your broader claim (mean, median, mode)? What was the life expectancy average in 1789 that in your view would be a fair comparison for the point made in the video? Ultimately, I’d like to understand a quantifiable difference between the numbers reported in the video, and the life expectancy number you believe would create a fair representation. For example, if one removed infant mortality in 1789 is there a significant difference in the average life expectancy? If you just wanted to pick apart the points made in the video by showing logical inconsistencies then more power to you. However, if you have a sincere point that your trying to make id like to try and understand it. If op happens to catch this, or anyone else can illuminate this position for my understanding I appreciate your time.
@thejudgmentalcat
@thejudgmentalcat 3 года назад
Former court employee here: some lawyers write terribly, some have good staff to do it for them. Speaking of writing well, what are your feelings about the kraken lawyers? The typos? The "plenty of perjury" gaff? Were they just rushed? Should they be disbarred?
@Thunderwalker87
@Thunderwalker87 3 года назад
From what I understand there are a good deal of judges and lawyers who speak like drunken idiots but their staff makes it all pretty and proper.
@Joesolo13
@Joesolo13 3 года назад
@@Thunderwalker87 damn I knew I should've been a layer
@Ugly_German_Truths
@Ugly_German_Truths 3 года назад
@@Joesolo13 laying whom? :D
@NukeMarine
@NukeMarine 3 года назад
OBJECTION: Mitch McConnell (with full support of Republican senators) kept the Supreme Court to 8 seats for over a year. He also packed the Supreme Court and hundreds of lower court seats with Federalist Society backed judges that follow amicus briefs funded by the Federalist Society. It's important to point out that fact in relation to what the next administration does assuming the Senate goes 50/50.
@ahamed4152
@ahamed4152 3 года назад
I think you mean *filled not packed
@brianng3414
@brianng3414 3 года назад
@@ahamed4152 It's both. For years, they held up traffic. Then when they got control, that filled and packed with people whom they agree with only. Filling is what they should be doing. But when you stop everything until your "friends" arrive, that is packing.
@demented9131
@demented9131 3 года назад
It is in McConnell's power to not hold a hearing to cofirm a judge to the supreme court. He chose not to partially as retribution for what happened to Robert Bork. Also, filling empty seats is NOT packing, it is just filling existing seats.
@brianng3414
@brianng3414 3 года назад
@@demented9131 But that was not the explanation he gave; thus, Lying Mitch. Even if it is in his power, it does not mean it is ethical or moral -same as the unethical pardons Trump is doing. Why were there empty seats? Because he held up the approval process in prior years. And there is no place for retribution. This is not the mob. The only people hurt are Americans and the institution. So, defend him if you want, but that shows the lack of morals that you have or your delusional reality.
@colegillgrass3373
@colegillgrass3373 3 года назад
Obejection : That is not packing the courts, and to be fair, not filling the seat in the final year of a presidency is actually dubbed the "Biden" rule, as it was presented early in Bidens career. You could say that they were holding the democratic party to their own standards but did not care to follow it themselves. Another argument could be that the difference would be the final term and the potential, and now actual, final term
@fireflocs
@fireflocs 3 года назад
9:35 "Are really old people a problem? It _Depends."_ I see what you did there.
@SomeRandomDevOpsGuy
@SomeRandomDevOpsGuy 2 года назад
but "it depends" is always the answer. Not just pampering that one line with huggies and loves.
@LimeyLassen
@LimeyLassen 3 года назад
That "Balanced Bench" thing is such a dumb idea. Just what we need, an amendment making the 2-party system even MORE entrenched. All in the name of centrism.
@han090
@han090 3 года назад
People really seem to miss that "centrism" is just an ideological bias of its own based on its own biased idea about where the right, left and centre even are.
@lexprontera8325
@lexprontera8325 3 года назад
YES and YES
@aoikemono6414
@aoikemono6414 3 года назад
@@han090 I see you can see in 9 dimensions, far beyond us mere mortals!
@michaelo5665
@michaelo5665 3 года назад
@@aoikemono6414 um most of the world considers our left, center right
@jdotoz
@jdotoz 3 года назад
Also, why should a political ideology get permanent equal representation when the people could easily wind up rejecting one, or the other, or adopting a completely new one later?
@Dranamolous
@Dranamolous 3 года назад
If I had these videos 10 years ago I may have been inspired to go to Law school. You’re providing an invaluable service. I hope you choose to focus more on these types of videos rather than the “what law did The Kardashians break” type videos - although I understand the purpose and appeal of those as well to others
@woltews
@woltews 3 года назад
I tend to favor having a large pool of justices and then each case being heard by a randomly selected subset of those ( think a pool of 31 with 7 selected for a given case ) and if at least 15 justices not including the original 7 agreed to a full hearing after the first ruling it would go to all 31
@VorAbaddon
@VorAbaddon 3 года назад
My suggestion has long been as follows: 25 Justices (1/2 the Senate) Presidents may only appoint 1 Justice for every 2 years they serve as President (i.e Max 2/term, Congress can authorize special dispensation in the event of a massive loss of membership such as 10 Justices being killed in a terrorist attack, etc). The Senate MUST hear debate on and vote on all nominees, they cannot refuse to hold a vote on a given candidate (Looking at you, Mitch...) Why? What does this do? Well, by increasing the number of Justices to 25, any given seat only comprises 4% of the decision-making power, as opposed to ~11% today. This even if a President nominates and the Senate confirms 4 Justices during a 2-term Presidency, the court has moved a grand total of 16%. By way of comparison, Trump appointees now make up 33% of the current SC decision making power. Also, if a President appoints someone during Term A that the citizenry disagrees with, it gives them at least one Senate election before the next nominee can be considered to try and swing the Senate to people who wouldn't approve those Justices. It spreads out the power of each Justice while retaining their lifetime appointments so there's no political influence (theoretically), and retains the Presidents power to Nominate and the Senate to Confirm, but it makes the process slow, easy to monitor, and transparent.
@zizkazenit7885
@zizkazenit7885 3 года назад
25 justices replaced at the rate of one every two years means each serves a fifty year term. If they die on the bench, how does the system respond? A replacement would either have to keep their term count-down going, or you’d get situations where it’s a president’s turn to appoint someone and there are no empty seats. Or I suppose you could leave the seat empty?
@VorAbaddon
@VorAbaddon 3 года назад
@@zizkazenit7885 I'd leave the seat empty until filled or until the emergency procedure kicks in. But likely the amount does have to be tweaked here and there. 3 per term might be the better option, still weighing that.
@rolfs2165
@rolfs2165 3 года назад
Let me throw in a suggestion from the German Federal Constitutional Court: new appointments alternate between House and Senate.
@shifttheshaman
@shifttheshaman 3 года назад
Game Theory clearly says that not-adding Supreme Court slots only works if both sides do it. The first to break that integrety has a huge advantage.
@Tarvok
@Tarvok 3 года назад
But then further down the line they have to suffer the long term consequences of breaking integrity.
@Tarvok
@Tarvok 2 года назад
That thing I said nine months ago is so weird it feels like someone else wrote it. What exactly was I thinking?
@metisrune_4279
@metisrune_4279 2 года назад
@@Tarvok maybe you were thinking that they would have to deal with the consequences to their reputation and image?
@MsAntiflo
@MsAntiflo 3 года назад
Supreme Court of Canada judges can sit til the age of 75 or earlier at their choice. They also must have been either a superior court judge or a member of at least 10 years standing of the bar of a province or territory.
@jamesmason7979
@jamesmason7979 3 года назад
I actually like that idea. I doubt that term limits will ever be placed on the judges here in the U.S., but a minimum experience requirement like that would make me feels more at ease with lifetime appointments.
@wdragoner
@wdragoner 3 года назад
In Germany there's a term limit of 12 years and an age limit of 68 for supreme court justices. And there are 16 of them divided into 2 so called senates.
@lornetc
@lornetc 3 года назад
The problem with a lot of the proposals for limiting the supreme court or changing it, is that if the current court is allowed to continue (grandfathered in) and the new rules would only apply to newly appointed justices we would still face the issue of the current court being politicized until a justice is replaced. There should be more oversight into a judge's experience and previous rulings as a judge before they are even allowed to be nominated as well.
@DiMono
@DiMono 3 года назад
The problem I see with lifetime appointments is that if the Justices age on the court, but their views don't, then you get people making decisions on new technology based on interpretations from 1960. The Supreme Court must be able to rule on the cases before them, and there have been so many social, technological, and societal advances in the last ten years alone that most of the current Justices are simply not equipped to rule on those issues due to a lack of experience. Remember that famous clip where the person in charge of regulating the internet said it's "not a dumptruck, it's a series of tubes!" That was the person IN CHARGE OF THE INTERNET not understanding how it works. And that's the problem with no term limits. There should be term limits on all government appointees, and age limits on lawmakers.
@jnewcomb
@jnewcomb 3 года назад
Except that the Supreme Court justices aren't making the laws, they're interpreting them. Justices have to use precedent, even all the way back to the beginning when the Founders wrote the Bill of Rights. How could Jefferson write law for online retailers? It's up to lawmakers to keep up. It's up to the Supreme Court to interpret whether those laws violate the Constitution. It takes a LONG time to understand it, in its context, and interpret it correctly in a modern context. You want somebody who's been doing this for decades teaching the newbs what their job means. And as politicized as it gets to get them on the bench, we are WAY better at getting Supreme Court Justices who actually understand that their politics are not legally relevant once they're there than we used to be (don't even talk to me about CJ Taney). It shocked the hell out of me each time Kavanaugh and Gorsuch voted AGAINST what their Republican lackeys wanted them to do and then the first time Barrett got a chance to show her loyalty for that insane Texas lawsuit, she gave her loyalty to the bench where it belongs. I don't like every justice that gets in. I don't agree with most of them when they're off the bench but they know how to interpret the law even if we don't like it (that's what Congress is for). And the longer they sit there, the more likely they are to make the right decisions based in LAW. ...Unless you're Clarence Thomas.
@AVeryRandomPerson
@AVeryRandomPerson 3 года назад
@@jnewcomb They're not required to use precedent, or when they use precedent, go all the way back to 1789. They can rule however they want and can use precedent from anytime.
@jenniferhunter4074
@jenniferhunter4074 3 года назад
@@jnewcomb I kind of agree with you in an idealized situation. But there is a lack of humanity in those judges. How does a Gorsuch understand a poor kid from a chicago zipcode? Clarence doesn't think racism exists or even systemic issues. That Barrett creature believes in magic from my perspective as an atheist. Look at that court. Do they have much in common with the average American? All of them went to law school. That means they had money and support most likely. If they were poor, they were exceptional because most people fall. How do they understand Americans who don't have a college degree or some college? How are these "justices" capable of administering justice to people in society if they have more in common with Kings and Queens? We've seen prior SCOTUS rulings that have had a horrific impact on US society and harmed thousands of people. Plessy vs. Fergusson. The place where we get the idea of "separate but equal". That was 1896. We get that reversed with Brown v. Topeka in 1954. I mean, what exactly changed in the Constitution? I mean, we did have some amendments after that Plessy ruling. Mostly they were administrative such as "You can't drink", "whoopie, you can drink". No president can have more than 2 terms. Where was that fundamental legal line that flipped that understanding? How many Americans were harmed by that primitive Plessy V. Ferguson SCOTUS court? And Plessy isn't the only one. Right now, I see a US government that is perverted. Trump won the electoral college but he lost the popular vote. Trump retaliated on those states and those voters. Remember how he wasn't interested in helping California battle wildfires on federal land? We have a legislative branch that isn't very responsive. I mean, 1200 dollar stimulus check? Republicans are so eager to protect big business from liability to endangering their employees during a pandemic but not so concerned about American citizens dying. The minority party can't even pass legislation because Senate won't do it's due diligence. And that's not including the freedom of speech to lie and engage in speech that harms other people on a large platform. Remember Bill O'Reilly talking about "Tiller the baby killer". And then, somebody hear that and decided to do something about it. Or when the courts say "Hey, Tucker is crazy. Nobody is supposed to believe him".. except that the reality is that people do believe Tucker. What about the Smartmatic nonsense? A reporter doing their due diligence wouldn't have spread that lie. But Fox News is allowed to. One America NEWS is allowed to. Because what? It's an opinion on a "news" channel? I'm not saying that this isn't a tricky issue.. but how many people need to be gaslit before we acknowledge the poison. Would Kyle RIttenhouse have taken arms and killed people but for conservatives media babbling and overhyping the protests? (and Scalia should have been burned alive. I mean, he chopped of entire words from the 2nd amendment. He had an interpretation that claimed that victims couldn't seek justice from the courts EVEN IF the evidence had been fabricated or exonerating evidence was deliberately hidden. What kind of judge is that? He wasn't the judge of a human society. Maybe a society of guns.) Do you really trust this SCOTUS? I don't. I believe that the majority of the people on that court are not legitimate. They're confederate.. wait, conservative judges who have a conservative interpretation of a legal document that is quite .. progressive considering when it was written. I mean, the US Constitution was designed to be updateable. No written in stone commandments. A living document. That's a progressive idea. The preamble is incredibly progressive and beautiful. We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. I think that SCOTUS forgot that part of the US constitution.
@jnewcomb
@jnewcomb 3 года назад
@@jenniferhunter4074 I agree with almost everything you said except the part about justice. Justice is a construct we created to mean fairness. Fairness under the law. Except that laws are not made (historically) to increase justice. They are made to increase power, whether that means power over blacks (slavery), power over whites (affirmative action), power over the poor (indentures) or power over the wealthy (capital gains taxes). No matter which you feel were positive laws or negative laws, someone, somewhere disagrees. The Supreme Court is **not** a body to administer law and order, fairness under the law or justice to those underrepresented. They are to interpret what the Constitution means weighed against the law presented to them in each case. **We** are here to fight for justice. **We** are here to tell the people in power what sort of laws we feel are needed, those that need to be changed and those that no longer apply to our values. DO NOT FORGET, abolitionists were not against separate but equal, lower pay for blacks, or many Jim Crow laws. The North had a lot of those already. Instead of treating blacks as equals, they treated them with pity. Attitudes had to change before the law could. And with that goes a change in interpretation of the law. **We the People** are responsible for that. As Devon said, whether 9 justices or 900, their job would remain the same. Interpret the Constitution. I don't know why we don't have MORE constitutional amendments at this point or why the 1st amendment has never been more clearly codified later in the amended Constitution. It seems like those should be happening regularly and in 244 years we've only added 17 more things (and one of them was just to get rid of another) and it's been 28 years since we've even ratified any amendment at all. So as I was saying with my original post, it's not the Supreme Court who doesn't keep up with the times, it's the laws and Congress themselves. I honestly think that's where the greatest restructuring needs to be done. Only problem is the only way to fix that is for Congress to suddenly make themselves more representational, less ideologically divided, accountable to those that voted for them (we can't remove our own representatives, OTHER state representatives have to), and incentivized to come to a compromise rather than holding one side hostage over the other's agenda. I don't see that happening any time soon and I don't know that there's a solution on the horizon.
@jnewcomb
@jnewcomb 3 года назад
@@AVeryRandomPerson That's true but that's not how lawyers are taught. Lawyers are taught to work on precedent. I'm not saying it **won't** happen. Look at Trump, he tests what the law can and can't do for him all the time and it's really pushing the "what we meant" versus the "what we said" of legalism. So yes, technically, completely true.
@Bearded_Dro
@Bearded_Dro 3 года назад
Objection, we have 9 Justices because Grant expanded the SCOTUS Justices to match the number of Circuit Courts. The Constitution does state that each Court is under the purview of a Justice. Right now there are 13 Circuit Courts (12 Circuits plus a Special Circuit). Editted: it was under Grant not Lincoln
@SamAronow
@SamAronow 3 года назад
Weren't there 10 justices under Lincoln?
@Bearded_Dro
@Bearded_Dro 3 года назад
@@SamAronow Give me a second to fanboi (I've followed you ever since your collab with Useful Charts) And I'm sorry, you're right, I was mistaken the 9 thing was under Grant and the number of circuit courts was the justification.
@Vexas345
@Vexas345 3 года назад
I think the best way to handle this is to not "pack the court" but to pass legislation to tie the number of justices to number of courts. Effectively the court gets packed but it won't have the downside of changing the numbers all the time.
@talideon
@talideon 3 года назад
The idea that Supreme Court justices would have a political affiliation is bizarre to me.
@chrisdock8804
@chrisdock8804 3 года назад
They don't usually, but they do have histories of legal decision making and thinking, some of which align more with democratic preferences and some of which align with republican preferences. They are picked on the basis of said histories, not on the basis of naked political affiliation. This is evident in the fact that many Trump appointed judges excoriated his anti-election suits.
@travis1240
@travis1240 3 года назад
It shouldn't be that way but it is. Mitch Mcconnell made that painfully obvious when he blocked Obama's appointment.
@Fritzy1587
@Fritzy1587 3 года назад
@@travis1240 appointments*
@vengefulspirit99
@vengefulspirit99 3 года назад
They're human. Only normal. I mean in theory they should be bipartisan but this is reality.
@aoikemono6414
@aoikemono6414 3 года назад
Anyone who goes by purely facts is not part of the republican party.
@hireahitCA
@hireahitCA 3 года назад
How about this as a starting point: Every president gets to nominate two justices at the start of their term. If there are retires or deaths, these are used to fill the seats. If not, at the end of the term, the longest serving just is removed and replaced, such that each president nominates two. Should more be needed, the court can either wait for the next presidential term, or, temporary judges can be appointed. The idea being that the court will be as balanced as the presidential office itself, tending to reflect the position of the people. And yes, it has the same problem of eliminating lifetime appointments, so that needs to be addressed.
@ChJuHu93
@ChJuHu93 3 года назад
15 judges, 15 years, every year a new justice is nominated. Death etc will be handled by the remaining judges.
@jenifer5756
@jenifer5756 3 года назад
Apparenly my 14 year old daughter has been watching your youtube channel incessantly for several months. When she brought this to my attention this morning she stated, we ( her parents) only have three and a half more years before we start paying her college tuition and after that her tuition for law school . She followed this up by wishing us a Merry Christmas! I told her lawyers do a lot of research, she can start her career early by researching scholarships!
@jacobford3452
@jacobford3452 3 года назад
The problem I have with the idea of lifetime appointments somehow making a justice apolitical is that it assumes people only have political views for re-election and that apolitical people even exist. The people on the supreme court are political because they are people and that's a fact we need to work with instead of ignoring. Presidents and Congresses will only appoint judges that idealogically agree with them even if a majority of people who actually have to live in the country don't agree.
@dontmisunderstand6041
@dontmisunderstand6041 3 года назад
The decision to be apolitical in itself is a political decision.
@lynallott3404
@lynallott3404 3 года назад
In my eyes an entity being apolitical isn't necessarily so much about it's views as it's about its members dealing with political job insecurity. In essence, it let's them not worry about getting re-elected.
@davidwillis7991
@davidwillis7991 3 года назад
They might be political but there's the potential for them to be far more political.
@aoikemono6414
@aoikemono6414 3 года назад
Typical "I'm apolitical" to claim smug sanctimony. The judgmental bystanders who have no problem reaping the rewards of others' labor. I don't sully myself with the dirty deed of politics! Also love it when doctors keep on popping up on the local news saying "The pandemic is not political! We are talking about people's lives!" Doctors being automatically considered smart is one of the greatest running jokes in modern culture. They apparently can't even read a basic dictionary. Politics is about making policy. Whether the pandemic is real or not and how to respond to it? Also a matter of policy.
@dontmisunderstand6041
@dontmisunderstand6041 3 года назад
@@aoikemono6414 No, whether a pandemic does or doesn't exist isn't a matter of policy... the response to it, yes. The existence of it, no. Simply deciding not to do something about it doesn't magically mean it doesn't exist.
@Aarzu
@Aarzu 3 года назад
I hate that we're even having to discuss this issue. I hate that SCOTUS justices are appointed based on their opinions on cherry-picked issues, I don't think expanding SCOTUS will solve the problems we've seen with Trump's appointments, in fact I think they'll make the problem potentially worse, but I don't know what alternative might be better. Up to this point, it's been generally accepted that there will be a bias, but justices would be appointed in good faith. The only relief I've had is seeing the number of cases where Trump's appointees, namely Kavenaugh, have made dissenting opinions from what Trump wants and made rulings that go against him.
@blake60ah41
@blake60ah41 3 года назад
That’s the problem with labeling justices “conservative” or “liberal”. Often times the appointed justices rule against their “party”
@zanemiracle6121
@zanemiracle6121 3 года назад
Justices don't have political ties. They aren't re-appointed in a sense, so there's no incentive for them to go along for or against party lines. The justices are well aware they are more of a last line of defense, defenders of the constitution. Unlike presidents or congress, if they mess things up the ramifications are huge. Plus congressmen and presidents are elected. But the S.C. have a pretty grueling process to go through to get nominated. The standards are just higher for a justice.
@Hammerhead547
@Hammerhead547 3 года назад
The problem is that certain "issues" like the death penalty and abortion should be considered as dead issues that have long since been determined by the courts but that can't happen because you have psychotic activists on the left who believe in bizarre fantasies about conspiracies that don't exist and love to scaremonger about them while the other side plays up to them to make them think they're right when the reality is they're not.
@BenedictMHolland
@BenedictMHolland 3 года назад
5 of 9 justices were appointed by presidents who lost the popular vote.
@dorkangel1076
@dorkangel1076 3 года назад
@@Hammerhead547 Dunno, the right have been pushing some pretty bizarre conspiracies of late. It's like they're both morphing into each other...
@tommyrobb6090
@tommyrobb6090 3 года назад
Thanks to this channel I know more about your law than my own country, I wish there was someone making similar easily digestible but informative content for the UK.
@1SCme
@1SCme 3 года назад
*1. Establish the position of Senior Justice* who is considered a member of the bench and has many other duties, but does not normally hear cases. Examples of other duties can be screening submitted cases and giving recommendations to active judges, allowing an active judge to recuse themselves from a case or take a leave of absence and select a Senior Justice to temporarily fill their position, taking temporary assignments at the district level, etc. *2. Establish term limits of 18 years* with retiring judges moved to Senior Justice. This exists in other court levels and is considered constitutional because they are still part of the bench. In discussions on term limits and forcing Justices to step down, this is phrased as "Extreme" but never "Unconstitutional." *Requiring Amendment* *3. 5-4 court split* in justice appointments* by the 2 largest political parties. 2 largest determined by % of House seats + % of Senate seats, as determined by party affiliation at time of their election, and must be in top 2 for 6 to 8 years to replace existing party (prevent shenanigans). *4. Rotate the terms to flip court majority* with every new nomination, except majority retained for 4 years every 8 years. This rotates which party sits in majority over the court every other Presidential election. *5. Nomination is by the highest elected member of the party to fill the seat* (not limited to President) (establish order of Senate leadership and house leadership). *6. Approval required by 2 of 3* of President - Senate - House. *7. Until approved* the judges representing the minority on the court can select a Senior Justice from the party scheduled to fill the vacancy (court will lean toward the center until filled). If less than 2 Senior Justice candidates, can select from available circuit court judges. *8. If judge is unable to fulfill their complete term* a replacement is selected to complete their term, same as selecting a judge. *9. Selection and approval can be up to 1 year ahead of end of term limit* to allow the new judge time to acclimate. *Gains* 1. Judges feel more freedom to take a leave of absence or recuse themselves. 2. Always have 9 active judges. 3. Possible lighter case load on the court with pre-screening of arguments (if implemented). 4. Removes the hyper politicizing of the court - control changes ever 2 years (4 years every 8 years to shift the timing). 5. Court is less likely to make extreme rulings or throw out existing precedents because they can be overturned in 2 years. 6. Removes push for younger and younger judges with term limits. 7. I think nominated judges are more likely to be centrist and add consistency to the court to make the approval process quicker. 8. Easier approval of judges - Instead of requiring President and Senate to nominate and approve, now need just 2 of 3 branches. 9. Easier to reject extreme or unqualified judges if voting against approval doesn't result in loss or gain of the seat.
@charlesevanshughes3638
@charlesevanshughes3638 3 года назад
The last thing that anybody should want is congressional leadership becoming the next justices. "Justice Pelosi" and "Justice McConnell" sound terrible. The Court handles around a hundred cases each year, the vast majority of which require justices with a strong grasp of the law to interpret what the statute means. They do more than just sprout their philosophical ideas half a dozen times a year. McConnell has not practiced law in decades, and Pelosi has no legal training whatsoever.
@1SCme
@1SCme 3 года назад
@@charlesevanshughes3638 I meant "5. Nomination is by" not "5. Appointment is by" (though "appointment is by" still wouldn't mean they fill the position themselves). Now corrected.
@gedizaksit
@gedizaksit 3 года назад
Something not mentioned in the video is that picking younger Justices also has the effect of picking the less experienced ones. Current dynamic discourages appointing older and more experienced Justices.
@davidwillis7991
@davidwillis7991 3 года назад
On average that should mean a lower proportion are senile at any one time
@Burevix
@Burevix 3 года назад
It does disappoint me that we have become so allergic to amending our Constitution. The Founders put it in there for a reason.
@christinebenson518
@christinebenson518 3 года назад
I like to believe that the founding fathers would be horrified by the few changes we've made. Also that women and other ethnicities have rights.
@MonkeyJedi99
@MonkeyJedi99 3 года назад
Yes, but it is also good that it is so hard to change it (peacefully). as it provides a stable structure on which we can depend, against the slings and arrows of political BS and grandstanding that passes for them doing their jobs.
@gemelwalters2942
@gemelwalters2942 3 года назад
@@christinebenson518 True, they were very flawed individuals and so is the constitution but it's lauded as this perfect and untouchable document.
@gemelwalters2942
@gemelwalters2942 3 года назад
@@MonkeyJedi99 or places the country in a rut of corruption that it can't escape. Stability is fine, but if the will of the people isn't being served then something is deeply wrong. Democracy is a work in progress, you're basically saying Americans have nothing else to learn and there lies the problem.
@reuteratwork8983
@reuteratwork8983 3 года назад
It's not that we're "allergic" -- it's that there can be no agreement -- any changes the Left would make will be fought to the death by the Right, & any changes the Right would make will be fought to the death by the Left -- since Constitutional amendments require cooperation in Congress, as well as agreement by a majority of states, there's simply no way this divided country could possibly come to an agreement on changes...
@daniel_wilkinson
@daniel_wilkinson 3 года назад
Who wants to be the "new guy" justice that gets laid off first when the Supreme Court gets downsized? How do you put that on a resume?
@arandombard1197
@arandombard1197 3 года назад
If it gets decreased, you would simply not replace a justice. Firing would be illegal.
@brockwillenborg7517
@brockwillenborg7517 3 года назад
Who wants to go down for creating a civil war?
@loganlabbe9767
@loganlabbe9767 3 года назад
Best plug for skillshare ive seen, really thinking about it now and ive heard like a hundred
@helpstapde6611
@helpstapde6611 3 года назад
I had no clue what packing meant and now I feel like I'm ready to start my life time goal to reach 69 court justices
@charliecussans7638
@charliecussans7638 3 года назад
Nice
@ianpage2509
@ianpage2509 3 года назад
The first case. You mom jokes vs That’s what she said.
@theojsinclair
@theojsinclair 3 года назад
@@ianpage2509 VS "-er? i hardly know her" jokes. y'know like liquor? i hardly know her
@woodside4life
@woodside4life 3 года назад
You’re doing the Lord’s work.
@Zaluskowsky
@Zaluskowsky 3 года назад
Nice.
@AzureIV
@AzureIV 3 года назад
There should be term limits for every politician, regardless of position. Any member of the three branches of government should only be able to keep their position for a limited time and not be able to keep coming back for 40+ years. I'm looking at you Congress.
@elliotsmith9812
@elliotsmith9812 3 года назад
Recall that this argument was used heavily by republicans during the Clinton presidency and every republican that got a new seat immediately abandoned the idea of term limits. If a politician is popular they should stay. How about increasing the margin required to win in each reelection?
@chaseblauvelt7008
@chaseblauvelt7008 3 года назад
Why? If they keep getting elected and keep being the preferred candidate for the people why shouldn't they have more terms?;Supreme court justices are not elected and they can't be unelected. That's the problem, not term limits.
@jamiengo2343
@jamiengo2343 3 года назад
@@elliotsmith9812 what do you mean by increasing the margin they have to win re-election by? How is that at all fair and equal?
@Ryan_Richter
@Ryan_Richter 3 года назад
The current process promotes justices to serve until the end of their life, and regardless of the political motives behind their appointment, the inherent cognative decline while working at that age is not ideal. Term limits can be long, but they should next extend far beyond a person's reasonable life expectancy.
@jacksonwanlass4811
@jacksonwanlass4811 3 года назад
There aren’t terms to Supreme Court justices because it never mattered that they be switched out. Although Supreme Court justices have opinions they rule on the basis of the constitution. Read any judges opinion on a case and it will be from the perspective of constitutionality. Due to this party affiliation really doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of things.
@MartijnVos
@MartijnVos 3 года назад
The Dutch supreme court has a grand total of 53 judges, divided over multiple chambers specialising in different issues. And keep in mind that Netherland, with its 18 million population, is a much smaller country than the US. The appointments are fairly depoliticised, passing through several institutions which each get their say.
@DenisMaksymowicz
@DenisMaksymowicz 3 года назад
I am impressed. You got through the whole historical issue without quoting: a switch in time saved 9. There is nothing magical about the number 9. Our Masonic forbears would have preferred 7, purely for symbolic reasons...personally, I think 13 justices, corresponding to the original colonies is not in appropriate. On the other hand, the number should be kept small. We know from history that a focus on the few matters
@OneEyeShadow
@OneEyeShadow 2 года назад
Clearly 51 judges is where it's at. One for each state plus one representing the federation itself.
@linkspeaks
@linkspeaks 3 года назад
In Canada, the mandatory retirement age for Supreme Court Justices is 75. It's the same for Senators. That might be a better option than term limits.
@harvbegal6868
@harvbegal6868 3 года назад
I like it. The cry about ageism would start up. But I like it anyways.
@linkspeaks
@linkspeaks 3 года назад
@@harvbegal6868 a cushy pension will shut 'em up
@harvbegal6868
@harvbegal6868 3 года назад
@@linkspeaks Oh no not the judges that would cry about ageism. The legislators that would have to pass the 75 years age law would cry about. And they would definitely cry about giving them benefits as well.
@aoikemono6414
@aoikemono6414 3 года назад
No. Age limits are too arbitrary. Some of these judges are far past the stage of dementia even in their 60s. Term limits at least give a new infusion of blood into the system, one less anachronistic.
@AvaFayIliza
@AvaFayIliza 3 года назад
You are a master of transition from content to sponsor, and in a way that it is clear when your words are of the sponsor spot and no longer of the content. Well done!
@Germanicnoble
@Germanicnoble 3 года назад
What about age limits? In Canada, Supreme Court judges are made to retire at 75.
@Merennulli
@Merennulli 3 года назад
Any system that inherently empowers non-governmental bodies such as political parties needs to be rejected. We already have too many systems in place that disfavor anyone outside the two party "system". As long as the two party "system" is in place, the people cannot be represented by those they elect. It encourages electing someone who does not represent the party's voters during the primary on the idea that such a person will appeal to those leaning towards the other party. That's how we got someone this year winning who fought against desegregating schools, has already rejected science despite campaigning on "listening to science", is already negotiating from a position of rejecting healthcare or individual aid, and is appointing people to regulatory bodies to regulate the industries they are personally invested in. Essentially everything people have spent the last 4 years. We need to extricate ourselves from the two parties and the "first past the post" system, not anchor it more by enshrining it in the Supreme Court.
@lennartjw2754
@lennartjw2754 3 года назад
the "whose nine is it anyway" joke on the thumbnail is hilarious btw
@_Ampersand_
@_Ampersand_ 3 года назад
I think the more elegant solution would be to make it to where presidents can only push justices of the opposite political party, ensuring the justices are more likely to be upstanding bipartisan individuals.
@visceratrocar
@visceratrocar 3 года назад
Term limits would be simpler
@MrKrytikol
@MrKrytikol 3 года назад
I can't support that because that would entrench the idea of the 2 party system. I agree with the founders when they said it would be the death of democracy.
@MoireFly
@MoireFly 3 года назад
Even with the current system, which sounds worse than both of the alternatives presented near the end, I think there's a strong case for significantly more justices: the plain old law of large numbers. Who gets to appoint what is now largely luck, and small shifts can thus have dramatic impacts. The larger the court, the less likely that becomes; instead the more likely it is that although randomness remains, it's more spread out.
@STR82DVD
@STR82DVD 3 года назад
Happy holidays young legal eagle. Stay safe.
@Marie_azul
@Marie_azul 3 года назад
It’s so attractive how informed this man is...
@darkaquatus
@darkaquatus 3 года назад
And so unattractive to see how biased he is.
@joshzickus8394
@joshzickus8394 3 года назад
@@darkaquatus everyone is
@darkaquatus
@darkaquatus 3 года назад
@@joshzickus8394 Yeah, except this guy is trying to come across as an objective lawyer.
@kevreeduk222
@kevreeduk222 3 года назад
@@darkaquatus And, in the process, succeeds in coming across as an objectionable one!
@roberto8650
@roberto8650 3 года назад
Just for comparison: The Spanish Supreme Court has 81 magistrates (justices), including a president and vice-president of the court and five presidents of the five chambers: civil, criminal, contentious-administrative, social, and military. Each chamber hears cases regarding only their areas of law, and the magistrates in these chambers are experts in those areas of law. The magistrates are selected for limited terms, though their terms are automatically extended if the other constitutional organs of the State cannot agree on a new composition. The Spanish Supreme Court doesn't, however, have jurisdiction over constitutional questions. Instead, this jurisdiction is attributed to the Constitutional Court. This court is composed of 11 magistrates, also selected to limited terms. Spain thus has approximately 1 supreme court magistrate for every 580 thousand inhabitants and 1 constitutional court magistrate for every 4.27 million inhabitants. In contrast, the United States has 1 supreme court justice for every 36.5 million inhabitants.
@AfterLifeGuru
@AfterLifeGuru 3 года назад
Thanks to he who did nothing wrong
@roberto8650
@roberto8650 3 года назад
@@AfterLifeGuru Big oof
@nicegan8902
@nicegan8902 3 года назад
The Australian High Court had lifetime appointments until a 1977 referendum changed the constitution to force the justices to retire at age 70. That referendum got an 80% yes vote and carried every state.
@justindonohue2957
@justindonohue2957 3 года назад
It is my opinion that we should combine 2 of the ideas. We should have 13 Justices, one for each circuit, then cases would go before a random group of 4 justices plus the chief justice in the case of a tie. Then that decision could be appealed to the full 13.
@BigGahmBoss
@BigGahmBoss 3 года назад
I'm 12:26 into this video and heard a line that got right under my skin. How can someone as old as the justices are on average say they're being forced into early retirement with a straight face? They're all grandparents
@HC130P8419
@HC130P8419 3 года назад
Is there some doubt that many of the justices aren't still incredibly sharp legal minds well into their 70s? Was RBG not still fully capable of serving as a justice for the last 17 years (she died at 87, so 17 years ago she would have been 70)?
@BigGahmBoss
@BigGahmBoss 3 года назад
@@HC130P8419 there's a lot of doubt. Because they are, in fact, in their 70s. I was as much an RBG fan as anyone, but she was too old to be in that position. Hands down. There needs to be an age cap
@BigGahmBoss
@BigGahmBoss 3 года назад
@@HC130P8419 we don't expect people in their golden years to swing a hammer or drive a bus, so why are they allowed to hold the highest seats of power in the world? Governing over an ever changing world, which they understand less and less with each passing year
@rogerlamarche7690
@rogerlamarche7690 3 года назад
@@BigGahmBoss I think the Sam reasoning could be applied to age limits for the Presidency and Congress.
@BigGahmBoss
@BigGahmBoss 3 года назад
@@rogerlamarche7690 the Sam reasoning? No sarcasm or anything, but I don't know what that is. I apologize if I'm just being slow
@Teag_Brohman15
@Teag_Brohman15 3 года назад
John Oliver said it best: packing the supreme court is a lot like doing yoga naked, the only way to dampen your enthusiasm for the idea is imagining Donald Trump doing it
@ahmedamine24
@ahmedamine24 3 года назад
With that attitude, "you go high, we go low". Or, as Charles Koch may have put it, "COMPROMISE IS FOR COWARDS!"
@Amberscion
@Amberscion 3 года назад
True. But the next time the Senate is held by Democrats and a Republican president has the opportunity to make a Supreme Court nomination, I sincerely hope that whomever is the Senate majority leader repeats McConnell's speech, word for word, about not allowing a hearing until the next president is in office. And that includes during the first day of that President's term. The utter outrage will be hilarious, and perhaps it might drive home the lesson about "what's good for the goose, is good for the gander."
@noesunyoutuber7680
@noesunyoutuber7680 3 года назад
@@Amberscion Exactly. The best rules are ones that can't be twisted unfairly against anyone, not those that give you the best immediate outcomes.
@Fletcher883
@Fletcher883 3 года назад
That’s it, I’m calling for a ban on Yoga so such a travesty can never occur.
@derrickthewhite1
@derrickthewhite1 3 года назад
@@Amberscion I have no doubt the Democrats will hold out supreme court nominees in that situation. The "Not hold a vote" was an act of extreme bad faith. They could have got what they wanted by having all of those hearings and votes, and rejecting anyone who wasn't as conservative as they wanted. I'm not quite sure what motivated that decision.
@MeppyMan
@MeppyMan 3 года назад
Your advert segues are always smooth.
@KismetBP
@KismetBP 3 года назад
Right about 6:00 I thought “Dang this guy is next level smart”. Hehe. Fascinating stuff. Had no idea. ❤️🤙
@reillycurran8508
@reillycurran8508 3 года назад
Objection! You didn't talk about the Exception Clause which gives Congress the ability to simply tell the court when it is stepping outside of its jurisdiction, which is to say, it gives Congress the power to shut down any case that falls outside of the bounds of the supreme court laid out by the constitution. Congress could theoretically use this power to reform the court by abolishing the activist bench and banning the court from, for example, issuing rulings under Judicial Review, a jurisdiction of the court not outlined by the constitution. Edit to add: Article 3 Section 2, for reference.
@stevennicgorski1657
@stevennicgorski1657 3 года назад
Thanks for making a video on this. I was curious about this whole thing
@alternatepersona3955
@alternatepersona3955 3 года назад
i don't really have an interest in law or anything talked about on this channel but still went on a 6 hour deep dive just because your voice is so soothing
@josephfernandez8015
@josephfernandez8015 3 года назад
Here’s an idea: - Whenever a Justice has 18 years on the bench, if by the end of their 18th year they choose not to retire, then that would automatically trigger an opening for a new justice. - If a justice retires or dies and the number of justices on the court after said event is greater then 8, then no new justice is appointed. Basically this gets around the constitution by giving the choice to the justice. Once you hit 18 years you can either retire or continue on the court with an additional justice. More then likely this would cause most justices to retire at the 18 year mark.
@user-nf9xc7ww7m
@user-nf9xc7ww7m 3 года назад
15:31 The issue with party based is that it cements their stranglehold on the US. Most people are not republican or democrat, they are independent. Further, why just the 2 entrenched parties? What about the libertarians, greens, Christian democrats, the social democrats, etc? They would get more votes in congress if they had media coverage. They'd get more media coverage if they had more votes--catch 22.
@reuteratwork8983
@reuteratwork8983 3 года назад
Sorry, no -- the first-past-the-post & winner-take-all aspects of US elections ensures that there will always be 2 major parties -- the American system is simply not designed to accommodate 3rd parties -- which is because, when the system was designed, there really wasn't any such thing as a political party -- the Founding Fathers thought that citizens would just be voting for their preferred candidate, not supporting a national organization -- at this point, if any 3rd party did manage to get more votes, it would just take away from one of the main parties, ensuring that the other main party would always win...
@MF-R
@MF-R 3 года назад
That's kinda the nature of fringe parties, even where I'm from; Canada. The problem with the fringe doesnt really come down to thier coverage either, in Canada there us very little time wasted on political advertising, so noone has a real upper hand there. The issue comes down to they either have too fringe of goals to appeal to enough people who will just go for one of the big two (Liberal or Conservative) or they are too extreme and drive people away for that fact; too big a change is frightening to most people. The other problem with fringe political groups is that they commonly are just half clones of the main party or even eachother, and if they united with either of these mostly like minded parties; they would stand a much better chance. But no, they need to get thier SPECIFIC goals achieved, and it's that lack of compromise that is thier true downfall.
@reuteratwork8983
@reuteratwork8983 3 года назад
@@MF-R - Yes -- the advantage of parliamentary systems is that they allow for more voices -- & the problem w/ parliamentary system is that they allow for more voices...
@danielduvernay3207
@danielduvernay3207 3 года назад
Add an age limit, like for President, and also add requirements such as education in law and other things like that.
@ruben307
@ruben307 3 года назад
they should just make it a 2/3rds of the house vote for the justices and it will not be political anymore.
@benwillems8584
@benwillems8584 3 года назад
And an endorsement by the bar association. And at least 15 years experience as a judge
@BaronSengir1008
@BaronSengir1008 3 года назад
@@benwillems8584 Definitely need years of actual court experience as a judge...
@jackw801
@jackw801 3 года назад
@@ruben307 it was 60 votes to confirm in the senate. The democrat party removed that
@noesunyoutuber7680
@noesunyoutuber7680 3 года назад
@@jackw801 The reason they did that, interestingly, was because the 60 vote system was becoming "too political." Obama couldn't get his lower court nominees through because the Republicans kept pushing confirmations down the line by refusing to vote on Obama appointees. Since the Dems had the majority, they killed the filibuster for those appointments. Then, of course, that bit them in the ass when they lost the Senate majority and a Republican president got to make 3 Supreme Court appointments while they were the minority...
@jaguth
@jaguth 3 года назад
Great breakdown, thanks Legal Eagle!
@butchjohnson9736
@butchjohnson9736 3 года назад
A point that is overlooked is that laws, especially at the highest level of a country, are always interpreted with regards to the changing times (moral values, advancement in technology etc.). So if you want to assess a law you need people from a broad background. If the vast majority of SCOTUS judges are 60+ or even 70+ you can hardly expect them to understand the intricacies of the subjects they are supposed to rule over.
@MonkeyJedi99
@MonkeyJedi99 3 года назад
On the flip side of that, older judges/justices mean that there is less "whipsawing" of judicial opinion based on current interpretations and societal fads. Essentially providing a stabilizing influence on the shouting of the few.
@gemelwalters2942
@gemelwalters2942 3 года назад
@@MonkeyJedi99 I would assume a judicial appointee isn't someone swayed by "fads" so I disagree there. That's essentially suggesting no one born after the 1960's is capable of stability. In fact there would be no women on the supreme court if that were the case because appointing women in those positions would be considered a "fad". Times change and the ppl with it, the scotus should be reflective of those ppl
@BLasherman
@BLasherman 3 года назад
Rubio: Let's make an amendment that there can only be 9 ever!! Everyone: Can't you just amend that amendment later? Rubio: [shocked Pikachu face]
@Pro_Butcher_Amateur_Human
@Pro_Butcher_Amateur_Human 3 года назад
Someone buy Rubio a dictionary so he can learn what 'amendment' means!
@Graatand
@Graatand 3 года назад
I really like the German system of splitting the constitution into tiers with some being more difficult to change than others.
@derrickthewhite1
@derrickthewhite1 3 года назад
You can amend that amendment later... but only if you have an amendment-making majority, which is a LOT rarer in American history than simple majorities. Which means you can't amend the amendment to win the sort of close political fights we've been having for the last half dozen decades. Frankly, we could use an amendment clarifying and making official a bunch of procedures relating to the supreme court, but we'll have to wait for a supermajority to come along to do that.
@ulrichkalber9039
@ulrichkalber9039 3 года назад
@@derrickthewhite1 you do not need a supermajority of one party. It is sufficient to make a ruling that is agreed upon by both partys.
@andreparra9241
@andreparra9241 3 года назад
I love learning about legal shenanigans about the US while studying international law, regards from Mexico
@Author.Noelle.Alexandria
@Author.Noelle.Alexandria 3 года назад
Devin, when talking historically, could you use the terms liberal and conservative instead of party names? Too many people are unaware of the title-swap that happened and don't realize that, pre-1930's-ish, Republicans were liberal and Democrats were southern. This is why we have a modern GOP claiming to be the party of Lincoln and that Republicans freed the slaves. Sure...but not conservative Republicans. Liberal northern Republicans. I think using the titles of the platforms, which are commonly accepted, would help prevent a lot of confusion for people who don't know about this part of history.
@metalslimehunt
@metalslimehunt 3 года назад
This is not accurate either - the parties were both big tent organizations from the 20s to the late 60s.
@arachnofiend2859
@arachnofiend2859 3 года назад
It's a bit tricky because while the parties absolutely did flip on most social issues when the Southern Strategy was implemented, Republicans have been pretty consistent on their pro-corporate messaging since the beginning (where the Democrats were essentially pro-aristocrat with token support for poor farmers). Labeling either party as wholly liberal or conservative doesn't make much sense until you get to FDR.
@jwil4286
@jwil4286 3 года назад
@@arachnofiend2859 the parties didn't really flip on social issues. for example, Planned Parenthood was founded by Margaret Sanger, a Democrat, who wanted to keep blacks from outpopulating whites. in addition, Republicans today want a colorblind society (as they did throughout the 20th century). Democrats on the other hand, are the party of woke mobs who want to roll back anti-discrimination laws so they can discriminate based on race again (California actually had a referendum [which thankfully failed] this past November to repeal part of their constitution banning race-based discrimination). as for the "Southern Strategy," the part that is routinely ignored is that Nixon did not win a majority of votes in any former Confederate state in 1968 (he did in 1972, but that was a 500+ electoral vote landslide), and many of the former Confederate states he did win had gone for Eisenhower in the 50s (Nixon was Eisenhower's VP).
@TehJumpingJawa
@TehJumpingJawa 3 года назад
For each case, randomly select an appropriately sized set of circuit judges. Super simple solution.
@thefourshowflip
@thefourshowflip 3 года назад
On Rubio’s proposal to indefinitely limit the Supreme Court to a certain amount of justices, I shall paraphrase a sentiment put forth by Thomas Jefferson which I believe applies here: The dead have no right to determine how the living conduct their affairs. (“the earth belongs to the living and not to the dead”) Jefferson actually went a little further, going so far as to argue that all legislation should essentially come with an expiration date; if some act were to be in effect longer than initially anticipated, then it’s up to the legislature to make a decision to extend a provision before it expires, or else submit new legislation that will reinstate that provision.
@ericmartin9412
@ericmartin9412 3 года назад
Putting an expiration date on all laws sounds good on paper but is a terrible idea when the rubber hits the road. But can you imagine something as broad as the Americans with Disabilities Act passing now? Or the Family Medical Leave Act? How long should the ADA have had as a provision? How could someone plan on retirement with Social Security constantly being torn up and rewritten every 20 years or so? It is just another one of Jefferson's ideas that shows he was much more of a philosopher than a legislator.
@TheBuzzkill2012
@TheBuzzkill2012 3 года назад
I love Thomas Jefferson, wise and a complicated man. Sometimes, however, his opinions made a constitutional amendment. Because of this, Laws do last forever unless otherwise stated or changed. He was President once, and he could have fought for that rule, but it never came to be, so we’re stuck with the system we have. Congress, and the states, have a system to make Rubio’s amendment. It will last forever if passed until congress changes it. God bless him and his opinion, but unfortunately, it’s just that, an opinion.
@thefourshowflip
@thefourshowflip 3 года назад
@@ericmartin9412 Those are some excellent objections. I do think there is a “happy medium” between the two positions...not sure exactly where that line should be, personally, but I do believe that putting an expiration date on certain categories of legislation would be appropriate, even beneficial as it’s often difficult to overturn an outdated law. But as for the ADA or other such legislation...it definitely seems like a better bet to secure those indefinitely (though the argument could be made that such things really belong as an amendment so that it is more permanently protected). Thanks for the reply. 🤓
@MemekingSupreme
@MemekingSupreme 3 года назад
Unrelated but wanted to let you know those shorts you've been uploading have been really helpful and convenient Love the channel
@stevestolarczyk8972
@stevestolarczyk8972 3 года назад
It is so fantastic to have a well reasoned presentation of both sides of the argument. This is how we take the partisanship out of our politics. We need to start demanding this of our elected officials and candidates, too.
@a2falcone
@a2falcone 3 года назад
Why not increase the approval quorum for a SCOTUS appointment in the Senate to something like 2/3 or 3/5? That would force the parties to agree on less partisan justices if they don't have a large enough majority.
@ilect1690
@ilect1690 3 года назад
i feel like each circuit court should be allowed to pick one of their own to the supreme court rather then have the president pick who in the circuit court gets promoted
@generallegath974
@generallegath974 3 года назад
That would just then hyper-politicize the lower courts (more than they already are) and restart the whole process.
@ilect1690
@ilect1690 3 года назад
@@generallegath974 i dont think its even possible for the lower courts to be more politicized than they already are lmao....
@UndertakerU2ber
@UndertakerU2ber 3 года назад
Having the president appoint a nominee and having the senate confirm the nomination is one of the hallmarks of checks and balances. We don't want the judicial side of the government to become bureaucratic, whereby they're allowed to interpret laws however they wish without any recourse of action. I'm not saying that checks and balances guarantee a fair system, but the alternative is worse imo, because there have been times where the supreme court has stopped the legislative and executive branches from grabbing too much power, and there are times when the opposite has occurred when corrupt judges have been disbarred for their misconduct.
@SincerelySagacious
@SincerelySagacious 3 года назад
Really love this channel. Very entertaining & more importantly educational.
@RyanDB
@RyanDB 3 года назад
Sorry if this seems like a nit pick, but I think it's important: Life expectancy doesn't work how you imply it does in this video. It isn't a good estimate of how long adults can be expected to live. It is the average length of life *including infant mortality*, which heavily skews the historical figures The change in expected length of life for someone who's made it to the age required to be a supreme court judge hasn't increased nearly as dramatically as the overall life expectance.
@chrismorgan6472
@chrismorgan6472 3 года назад
True, but isn’t modern medicine people who would have died at say 60 are often times living. To 80 or older due to higher quality of healthcare. RBG likely wouldn’t have made it to 80 if she was a justice in the 1800s
@RyanDB
@RyanDB 3 года назад
@@chrismorgan6472 Oh, for sure, but the way the numbers are presented in this video is super misleading. There have definitely been massive improvements, but not as dramatic as the life expectancy implies It's also very much a pet peeve
@FitLawyerK
@FitLawyerK 8 месяцев назад
Great legal debate, term limits seem sensible to increase the fairness (still luck but more opportunities), interest questions and answers regarding number of justices, great video overall 👏🏽 even though I’m centre right leaning and prefer the court to stay in its current formation
@freakingemu
@freakingemu 3 года назад
We in the Netherlands have 30 judges in our Supreme Court (the high counsel)
@winnington6923
@winnington6923 3 года назад
The UK has been having this sort of conflict since Blair in regards to packing the House of Lords, so much so that our upper chamber is now massively bigger than our lower
@zeusnitch
@zeusnitch 3 года назад
9:26 Damn infant mortalities bringing our life-expectancy down
@lucassmart1473
@lucassmart1473 3 года назад
Yeah, i wish people would use the life expectancy for people who live past 5 years old, much more useful
@shurhaian
@shurhaian 3 года назад
@@lucassmart1473 Indeed. Mean life expectancy at birth is not a very useful figure at all when it comes to estimating how old someone can get before inevitably dying of natural causes.
@galiette6645
@galiette6645 3 года назад
I’m really into law right now, even though i learn Biology and chemistry as main subjects in my country, so big THANK YOU, for making this kind of content, you are really inspirational.
@podemosurss8316
@podemosurss8316 3 года назад
Very interesting. In my country, the Supreme Court is renovated with each term and are appointed by Congress. In fact there is currently a problem since the judges of the Supreme Court were elected in 2012 following the elections, and since neither of the parties or coalitions has the required majority to change them, they keep their charges (and power) despite the fact that their rule theoretically ended some years ago.
@alexgray2482
@alexgray2482 3 года назад
where do you live?
@podemosurss8316
@podemosurss8316 3 года назад
@@alexgray2482 On the beautiful town of Granada, kingdom of Spain.
@Vohlfied
@Vohlfied 3 года назад
OBJECTION!! During her confirmation hearing, Amy was asked what are the five protections guaranteed in the First Amendment. It was intended to be a soft ball question asked by a Republican, in an attempt to make her look good, but she failed the question. The woman whose job it is to interpret the Constitution _doesn't even know what's in it_ not even in our touted First Amendment. The SCOTUS isn't an entry-level position with on-the-job training, it is a lifetime appointment to the highest court in the land. Amy is _not_ qualified to be on the Supreme Court. If she was, she wouldn't have been appointed by T××××.
@KJ-in4gz
@KJ-in4gz 3 года назад
Dude, this argument is done and over with. She’s on the Supreme Court, like it or not. I thought it was a pretty dumb moment as well, but she’s been confirmed. Just drop it and look towards to future for the next fight.
@Vohlfied
@Vohlfied 3 года назад
@@KJ-in4gz I disagree. We don't have to settle for this blatant cronyism, and I will continue to bring it up until something is done.
@KJ-in4gz
@KJ-in4gz 3 года назад
@@Vohlfied Well... keep fighting the good fight! ACB’s been confirmed though, so not sure what you can do about that one. Choose your battles instead of beating a dead horse, I’d say.
@jrideout2802
@jrideout2802 3 года назад
This is one of my favorite channels on youtube.
@johncronin9540
@johncronin9540 3 года назад
First, I want to say that this is an excellent topic for discussion. One initial note on life expectancy. It can create a false perception. In 1789, the reason life expectancy was so low is because infant and childhood mortality was much higher than today. With the lack of all but a very few vaccines, and the complete absence of antibiotics, it was common for infants and young children to die from infectious diseases. That lowers the overall life expectancy dramatically. If a person managed to survive their first few years, they had a reasonable chance at living well past their thirties, and indeed John Adams held a record that was only surpassed recently by Presidents Ford and Carter in terms of longevity. Adams lived into his early 90’s. So one must be careful when examining life expectancy. Chief Justice Roger Taney was appointed by Andrew Jackson (1829-1837), and was still Chief Justice when Abraham Lincoln was Inaugurated in 1861. He is most known for his authorship of the notorious Dred Scott decision.
@nickjeffery536
@nickjeffery536 3 года назад
I can write "really well" - it's not difficult, "really well" is just two easily-spelled words...
@Zaluskowsky
@Zaluskowsky 3 года назад
lmao
@MF-R
@MF-R 3 года назад
Really, well; Your doing really well at spelling really well. As you can see I am a pro... really aswell.
@cshields99
@cshields99 3 года назад
Instead of packing the court to 11, what are the arguements against reducing it to 7? As said in the vid, it's been done in the past.
@Bored_Barbarian
@Bored_Barbarian 3 года назад
Clarence Thomas and Kavanaugh should go XD
@ruben307
@ruben307 3 года назад
I assume you can reduce it but not throw people out by doing that.
@mjeromee
@mjeromee 3 года назад
You should do a video on King of the Hill episode The Trouble with Gribbles. Watching Dale question himself in court is hilarious.
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