What's the deal with MILLICENT and MIQUELLA'S HALIGTREE? 

Yes I’m the lore

@@Mr.Chaos.. I was the tree

I was the logging company board meetings

"I am Malenia blade of Miquella"

@@nicunicucaesar2893 I am miquella, last of all kings! …. Wait no-

Lol

Miqella is already reserved as the scabbard for mohg's blade

​@@gramfero SHUT

@@gramfero More like his "spear" due to its length and shape, but yeah

@@irtendor5885 does mogh have a horn on his rod too making it looking like a pitch fork?

U could've go to church of merial used a celestial du and then the npc will be back friendly again as if u didn't dmg her

@@sherif7491 He said he killed her. Celestial Dew doesn't bring people back from the dead, only those who never actually died in the first place (for example Sellen at the Waypoint Ruins)

@miningmole403 ik I just said if he didn't kill her he would've fixed the problem

@@sherif7491 ah well, in that case yes it would have worked

Don't feel bad I did the same thing on my single player playthrough. And I needed the rotten wing sword insignia to finish the build. 😢

@@lottji You must be 'ungry

​@@lottji why you ribbing him? It's such a minor thing to zero in on

So I finally found you, the other dumbass who didn't see the staircase, I feel you my friend

lol dumbass

The Haligtree is full of sidepaths which lead to other sidepaths from the very start, so I don't think anyone's blaming you for that

That's canon.

It's in the lore

I like your icon

In my younger days, whilst on holiday there once, I made the mega IQ, big brain move of thinking it might be fun to visit the northern part of Sweden (you know, as in the start of the Arctic Circle), to go see the Northern Lights.... dressed only in a long-sleeved t-shirt & a pair of tracksuit bottoms. Everything was all fine & dandy during the daytime but once it got past midnight, good god did the temperature plummet. I swear, it was effing freezing! Not my smartest move lol.

Naw. Wisconsin. Has to be. Jk

He is still a comedic genius even after the fracture. Managing to bring grown men to tears by simply T posing

Follow-up counterpoint to my own theory on this: Millicent _does_ say that Malenia "abandoned her pride" to meet Radahn's measure in the Prayer Room, which carries the implication of a deliberate break of the needle. And we _do_ know that its possible for someone to do it to themselves since Millicent does so when she finds out why Gowry actually wanted her to survive to begin with. That being said- assuming none of this is just plain old mistranslation- It is possible that Millicent just doesn't know what she's talking about in that respects, straight-up. She does live in Caelid which was always going to be embittered against Malenia for doing what she did and probably at least lightly demonize her, and would've had their perspective of her invasion to go off of, and seems to be an amnesiac besides. It's _also_ just a vague thing to say in general- 'abandoning her pride to meet Radahn's measure' could just be going to pick a fight with the demigod who was famously the absolute strongest around, at the time, because of something she felt she _had_ to do, despite the obvious risk it imposed. If that were the case though, it would probably have to be the case as well that she knew what would happen if she did let the needle break. There's the question of why she was there in the first place and why she ignored _every_ single other land she passed through to pick a fight with Radahn and only Radahn specifically of course. The only things I can think of in that respect are A: Mohg kidnapped Miquella prior to that point and framed Radahn for it convincingly enough to fool them all, while himself keeping his existence a secret, or B: Miquella was still around and was sending Malenia to go kill Radahn so as to stop him from halting the stars in place, as part of wanting to do his Castle Sol ritual thing and create a solar eclipse to interfere with the nature of death and bring back Godwyn or whoever. If Option B is the case, we're pretty much guaranteed to hear about it with Shadow Of The Erdtree since all the signs point to it being about Miquella/Godwyn/deathblight as a concept.

@@vogunBurgundy I think the needle broke, and "the call of the scarlot rot" was too strong to resist. I think she fits the "corrupted hero" role a lot, specially since her character revolves around resistance and fighting against the rot. But Radahn breaking the needle destroyed the thing that holded the rot back or gave her the power to hold it back and therefore even with all her willpower Malenia couldnt resist anymore. Thats at least what I think

​@@vogunBurgundy what i think is what she was trying to get to farum azula to use the needle (after all farum is in caelid) but radahn obvously wasnt stupid enough to let a whole army and a free great rune in his country so they fought

Radahn appears to only break the prosthetic arm, and Malenia then purposely impales herself on her own sword, followed by the Scarlet Aeonia occurring. As such, Malenia probably did break the needle herself, and the impaled area on her body matches up well with where Millicent applies the needle in turn.

I'm aware of the cinematic, yeah. Things to consider on that front: > We don't actually *see* Millicent apply the needle to herself because the screen fades to black, when she asks us to look away. To me, that feels like it implies that somewhere or other more intimate as being the proper place to put it, than just the upper part of the shoulder, which is where Malenia stabs herself with the handle of the blade (not even really "stabs herself", more like just falls onto it with the edge of the metal joint of her arm to drive it in deeper.) So while possible this is her breaking the needle it doesn't seem the likeliest thing, and could just be her rushing to take Radahn down with her when she recognizes something inside's about to blow and won't know what happens after that. (It could also have just been an _accident_ in which case, lol.) > The whole cinematic is a stylized telling of events by Ranni in the first place, who is rather infamous for not telling the entire truth of things. In that very same cinematic, she omits from her narration a lot of what she knows for the sake of dramatics and telling a better story, all that jazz (i.e. her being the one that stole the Rune of Death and allowed this to happen in the first place.) It is still definitely possible that she just, did in fact break her own needle in desperation with the Blade of Malenia, but imo that'd be... I dunno, mad underwhelming a narrative beat? I'm all for more mundane fallen heroes having moments of moral weakness, but that just feels pointless from a writing perspective in terms of FromSoft doing things with her characterization since it both ends her arc with a regression and book-ends it permanently with the whole "and then she goes into a delusional coma until the Tarnished shows up and then kind of just goes '?????' and whacks them til she dies." But ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I'm sure in any case Miyazaki knows better than I do where they're going with it all. To me, it was always just a big part of _Radahn's_ character and the tragedy of the Redmanes as a whole, that the battle with Malenia shouldn't have even happened in the first place, that the signs point to them wanting more or less the same thing.

I was thinking the DLC would be more involved with craftable items and lootable ingredients...

Probably lore, but it won’t be canon

Seems far fetched, I'll need to see you site your work, only MLA format will be accepted.

Deathbed Smalls as a headwear

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This is canon. It’s in the lore.

I’d rather die than have to watch another Ant Man movie

You could even call it, a MqMeal

Either way you’re getting stabbed

I live in Birmingham lol

@@xx_smokenskeleton_xx1527praying for you man🙏🏾

And to fight the draconic tree sentinel before Leyndell

@@victorprati7908 I only summon our gigachad Tragoth😎😎😎

And she does the waterfowl dance 🩰

Also against the magma wyrm on the non lift path to the plateau even without the prosthesis

real

True! Even a basic healing spell demolishes them. But Tark is more of a INT dude so

The description for the Lone Wolves spirit ashes says that each wolf was previously found by a Tarnished though, meaning that Miquella, a demi-god, couldn't have been the one to find the wolves and impart them along with the bell. Perhaps Ranni was only requested to bequeath the bell and the spirit ashes were a pity gift from her, but it's uncharacteristic for Ranni to give any gifts to random people.

@@nightscout9979 I really thought I was on to something there, that would’ve been on my resume to become vaatividya’s assistant

Miquella a boy

Miquella was a boy. In the picture, judging by horse driving style, is most likely a girl. I assume it's actually Marika if indeed DLC is set in the past it would make a lot of sense.

well they have the same father, so… yeah. they probably did know each other. still, miquella wasn’t the owner of torrent.

😣😣😣

Yes, she just was using the exact same clothes as her daughters with a way smaller flower for no reason and also she is from the future, that is why the incantation talks about her third bloom in future sentence

It’s millicents 3rd sisters. You fight 3 of them at the same time

There's a guy with a theory that Radagon usurped Marika, imprisoned her in the Erdtree, then attempted to mend the Elden Ring in the background while pretending Marika was still in charge. This would explain why no one talks about Radagon and his contributions

Radagon: here, I have built you a civilization with advanced architecure, sciences and complex theology. His stupid-ass kids: nah, thanks. Imma feed myself to a serpent/submit to dark moon/larp as Godefry

that inspiration actually makes a lot of sense

Dawg what the hell

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