What's the point of Multiscale guitars? 

As a bass player, i think the more even string tension (especially on the low B) is the major selling point.

I love that somebody is out there doing the hard work of dragging youtubers toward acting ethically. I think KDH is a man of integrity. That said, I am surprised to see him selling Monster's (or anyone's) frequency-specific cables, which I think are pretty widely regarded as snake oil. I am sure the are actually very nice cables, actually. I just mean the idea of needing specific cables for specific instruments. I actually thought it was a joke sponsor at first.

I find it oddly ironic that Monster Cables are your sponsor. love to see someone do a blind sound challenge with different cables. pretty sure everyone would fail too hear the difference. but id love to be proven wrong..other thing you never see a blind challenge on, fretboard wood, body wood

Monster Cables seems pretty antithetical to this channel, given the claims they make.

Disregarding the whole “snake oil” debate… Monster Cable is infamous for bullying small companies. They sue (or they used to) practically every smaller company that has “monster” as part of their name. Even if they don’t have the slightest thing to do with the audio business. That’s not defending your trademark - that is straight up bullying! Please read up on it… they represent everything that you usually rally against.

Not a metalhead but i really like how Charlie Hunter uses 7 string multiscales

Not really too keen on you accepting money from Monster. Their claims are frankly preposterous: the materials involved in making good quality cables are incredibly cheap. The only thing that can differentiate one decent cable brand from another are the connectors, the length and the quality of the soldering. There are legitimate reasons to use specialised cables but only in the sense that the voltages produced by a power amp to drive a speaker will damage an instrument/mic cable, or possibly using a curly cable if you want to authentically recreate the tone from a live performance where you can clearly see that the artist is using one.

Honestly kind of shocked to see a Monster sponsor on this channel. The claims they make about using different lengths and types of wire affect the sound in a non-audible way, and they charge an insane premium for that negligible, if existent difference. Would have expected you to debunk these cables tbh.

The irony of being known for pointing out when youtubers are pissing in our pockets and then advertising monster cables... That's gotta hurt credibility....

Hi KDH. Me love u long time, u have a voice of trust, but can can u please do a video showing us the difference in sound using the various Monstercabel. I would love to see you do a video were you use a speakercable as an instrumentcable and viseversa, to really show how much of a difference there is. As you are "untouchable" to big business "buyins" and have a 100% objective voice on RU-vid, it would be so great to see you do a video to show how much audible difference it makes to chose the "right" cable. Yours truely, Espen/Oslo/Norway

For anyone thinking about buying monster cables do not..... It's a total scam. They have a infamous track record

Different cables for specific instruments is such a scam. I know, gotta earn money somehow but come on.

All the things in this video, I most appreciated how you said "Ibanez dived" instead of "Ibanez dove."

I thought about the ergonomics, but string tension never crossed my mind.

I used to be a regular on the Project Guitar forum years ago. Ormsby was a regular at some point and shared a lot of knowledge. Ola Strandberg also posted from time to time and even told me how to go about refinishing a guitar with Tru Oil. Their posts on multiscale guitars were super interesting. I was always in awe at their level of craftsmanship.

Would you recommend a multi scale guitar over a standard for a beginner? Can they skip the standard altogether and just stick with multi scale?

It's definitely a me thing, but playing palm muted argeggios is a massive pain multiscale. I can get used to everything else but that's the deal breaker for me as its a big part of my playing.

@5:00 reminds me of the time a guy did a blind study to test if people could hear the difference between monster cables and a coat hanger. Spoiler: They could not. consumerist.com/2008/03/03/do-coat-hangers-sound-as-good-monster-cables/

Last frontier fallen. Too bad with that promotion in the video … The lack of promotion made your messages seems more honest and I hope you will reconsider that approach

Hey dude, make us a review of the dean ml multiscale, if possible, it would be very cool

I think headless guitars are usually blemished abominations, but I'm intrigued by multiscale guitars.

The monster cable sponsor is really ironic for this channel, I thought it was a joke at first. I think you better do a video testing those cables if you want to keep your credibility.

Wow this makes me want to think about multi scale. Sounds like it would be useful to any genre that uses drop d alone, which is pretty much most genres using it from time to time. It would make a guitar much more versatile, especially for people that can’t afford or don’t have space for a huge collection, as well as traveling musicians that have to haul all their own gear! I wonder if they make acoustic models with a multi scale setup.

Cables for guitars and cable for basses?, Riiiiiight

I know it's sponsored and all, but your channel is about debunking a lotta stuff, then advertises cables for bass vs guitar :/

Monster cables are the textbook definition of snake oil. You've lost all credibility you had in one move.

Jesus Christ, video sponsored by Monster Cable?! They are Audio Audit material lol😂

As a giant multiscale fan 🥁 It looks cool and sounds better on the low end, also scale length makes intonation better. Also higher frets tend to be more spaced out to make wangley stuff easier.

Never been a fan of multiscale, but I’ve always thought your blue Oramsby looked and sounded incredible.

There’s a Schecter 7 string Multiscale I want to buy at some point, A) because I think it looks sick, and B) because of the benefits it’s like to have with ergonomics and string tension. Considering I tune to drop A most of the time, it may not be necessary, but I still think it would benefit me.

Monster cables? Really? I am disappoint.

Promoting monster cables... Some reflection might be needed.

Thanks for the information, I had no idea about that, greetings from Colombia!

Can you now test if the cable really changes the tone? Because I really don't think so.

the most important thing i learned from this is how to pronounce Aristides. thanks, KDH!

I love my multiscale guitar. After using it as a baritone, I've now strung it to Bob Fripp's New Standard Tuning, but one half lower, so it's starting with a low B: B-F#-C#-G#-D#-F# Feels great right across the 'board.

There are more comments critical of Monster cables than there are comments about multiscale guitars. This is what we call "drama" in the comments, and gives Monster free advertising beyond what they paid for. I agree with all other commenters: KDH should do a full comparison in testing between Monster cables vs. standard cables or cheap Amazon guitar cables. Also, compare bass cables to non-bass cables. We want an in-depth test with an audio engineer level of detail to analyze the signal differences!

That Dean in the thumbnail looked so cool until I saw the whole thing in the video lol. Wish it was explorer shaped.

Being the perfectionist I am in terms of selecting things, it would take me decades to find the right multiscaled guitar. I better don't dare to touch one haha. Btw, great content, as always.

Pretty sure an instrument cable is an instrument cable mate. Electrons don't care what kind of copper they're going down. From a channel like this, Monster cable snake oil is the last thing I expected. Why don't you do a video seeing if there's any difference playing a guitar through that bass cable and vice versa?

Wow. Monster ad kinda ruined this …

Exactly the information i was looking for. Im about to cry. Its been so long since i haven't been click baited into a fluff video that i forgot how to trust.

Don't light top / heavy bottom strings do basically the same thing without being... well.... ugly?

Solid analysis, I love your content!

That monster cable demo in the middle of the video with absolutely no reference to ordinary cables. Wtf ?

Thank you K! For answering about your guitar! Yeah, I'm 5'4" lady with small hands & that guitar would be too hard for me but Ormsby makes some stunning instruments! Also appreciate 411 on multiscale! It would have to be 25.5" for me! Guess I`ll stick with standard! Cheerz

Great video man. I've always wanted an in-depth video explaining multi scale guitars. I probably won't buy one but I'm glad to know more about them.

just ordered a multiscale 8 string acoustic, i can’t wait 😁

It might work for many people but i cannot process the looks of it.. looks so off, in a very bad way

I don’t know, man. Baritone seems like a far better solution for low tunings, because you lower all strings by the same amount. Makes more sense for open tunings, probably. True intonation frets seem far more interesting to me. It’s a shame they aren’t as popular

I’d like to try a multi scale or a baritone as I play in drop B but I struggle with those major triad stretches as it is on a 25.5” so I don’t think they’d suit me at all. I fully understand why they’d be good for intonation and tension though, but for me I want to enjoy playing my guitar, not fight it and potential get carpal tunnel at the same time 😂

This was clear and useful ! Thank you !

those cables seem... interesting. looks like they're trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist. if you have resistance or capacitance in your cable, it's a bad cable.

I played a strandberg bass at a local guitar shop and it was one of the best feeling basses I've ever played

I'm not a good guitarist but I have a multi-scale 7 and I love it. The only downside is they shouldn't have too much angle near the headstock because some cords get really hard to play. As for down the headstock and Lead it makes a huge difference

You should try the Agile Chiral line from Rondo Music, or if you're not a fan of headless instruments the Agile Sceptor, Pendulum or Pendulum Pro lines (be aware that these instruments are a bit heavier). Whereas the Chiral headless bridge pieces are not mechanically locked down, so if you're changing strings, it is possible for the brass bridge pieces to come out of the enclosure if the guitar is tilted while the string(s) are getting replaced.

The 8 string ML is what happens when guitars stay too long in the Chernobyl exclusion zone.

The most surprising length in the video was 6'1" !

I recently got a strandberg prog 7. The difference from low to high scale length is 1in. I really like the feel and sound of the guitar. The cutout is also really nice because I play in classical position.

2:20, or if you're like me, you could also just use thicker gauges, I personally love very heavy bottom strings, so I use 11/12, 16, 24w, 38, 48, 76 on my 25.5 scale 6 string from Drop C# down to an octave G tuning, which is kind of like Drop C, but with the low string tuned to G. though I'm primarily playing in Drop C - Drop A# with them. I'd say the benifit of using a longer scale length is more so the tonality difference. more brighter tone with the longer scale length and thinner strings rather than compensating with a thicker usually warmer sounding string. though of course you can adjust other things like pickups and guitar/amp/pedal settings, equing which can kind of make some of these things obsolete when it comes to an actual mix. I'm thinking of getting a multiscale 7 string though.

You snuck in some rappers delight, right on!

You need to listen! I do use a number of guitars for different tunings and multi scale. On my Ibanez premier it's my C# guitar, I use D'addario 9s. I used to use 12,11 but I did an experiment I sat and went from 12s to 9s. I found the 9s had the best tone and were fine down to C. Trust me, try it for yourself. I'm not ripping the fingers anymore and the tone is tighter.

always thought they were just slanred frets for players who play with a slanted wrist!! Thank u for this videoo

How'd you think a multiscale go for a player who mainly does barre chords or 5ths in a more rhythm guitar role? I can easily see their advantage on lead breaks

Great info and great playing

I enjoy the Gibson scale length, I have other guitars of various other scale lengths but the 24.75 is very comfortable for me. It's also where I did most of my intense learning of technical death metal though so I might be biased. It's easier for me to get some of the patterns required on a shorter scale length. I'm not short either! Ha ha ha.

Would love to see a review of the kahler multiscale trem from you seeing as you've championed the standard one. Any chance you can get your hands on one of the new Deans?

Thanks K. Answered whether I could use one or not. I really enjoy your videos. I don't have the same taste in music but I always tune in for the information and the delivery. 👍👍

Mine is 26.75-29.14". I'm pretty average height and don't have big hands. Being an 8 string with the eScale (a variation of multiscale), I actually find it much more comfortable to play than my 25.5" standard scale guitar. The takeaway, Multiscale is awesome. Try it.

Great content...God continued blessings Cant wait to try one and test and see...makes for an interesting concept.

ive been wanting a multiscale. im primarily a bassist but use a guitar when im writing a song to help me better get a bass line. so multi scale seems like a good fir for me, as im use to longer scale. not to mention i love the sound

Hey, thanks for that very informative video… I was thinking about buying one, but my alignment TOC just not allows me to have one…

wow this comment section is a shit show. Thanks for the info on multiscale, that's what I really came here for. I've been a guitar player for years, but it kinda took a backseat until recently. Now there's all kinds of new stuff that people are using that I hadn't heard of before. Good information, delivered well. Thanks! (It doesn't bother me if you're sponsored by Monster Cables)

Multiscale guitars just make more sense, and honestly speaking I feel like it should have been the norm. Piano strings have variable string lengths per key, and if anything, the guitar also follows the percussive nature of a piano wherein the note is struck with a physical element (piano = hammer; guitar = fingers or a pick). It's the same with a Chinese instrument called the Guzheng as well. Bowed and fretless instruments like a violin or cello on the other hand, can escape any shortfall a straight-scale length might have just by virtue of the way they are sounded and played. Purists may argue otherwise, but objectively speaking, multiscale guitars just perform and feel better. Now, if only there could be a more aesthetic way of solving the floating tremolo issue...

thanks for this vid, i've been thinking a lot about getting a fanned fret, now everything is more clear

How do you do bar chords?

Sometimes when you play the subtitles say "Applause" lol

If you’re 6’1” then your hair has to be, what, 2’9”? Rock on man!!

The Fanned Fret design is an old one taken from the Orpharion. What you end up with is the Treble Strings being short and thin as well as the Bass Strings being long and thick like what you see on a Grand Piano or even a Harp.

Cable gimmicks and marketing lol Some people pay 2000 USD for a "magical" HDMI cable that does the same thing a 10 dollar one does. Cables are Cables.

I have small hands; my main guitars are 24¾" scales (Kiesel Hyperdrive and Gibson Les Paul) and 25" (Kiesel DC600 and PRS SE Custom 24). I just can't make 4-fret stretches on a 25½" scale Strat. I wouldn't mind trying a "Gibson-scale" multiscale with a hypothetical 24¾" high E to a 26" or so low E. This is also why I play a 5 string bass. I can do F-A walkups on the low B a lot more easily than on the E (so I hang out on the 5th fret a lot).

Goes full Puritan on any subject touching secks or freedom of speech....Advertises Monster Cable. Something is wrong here

Multiscale guitars look cool but none of the players I listen to use them, you'll notice none of the 'greats' use them. Chances are that your favourite player(s) don't touch them.

My guitars are old school but I have guitars in all 3 of the classic scales ...24" 24 3/4 and 25 1/2 and all have advantages and disadvantages. I am sure I could get as comfortable with any guitar I have seen today. I think in the end with me it is the tone. If the guitar sounds great then the sound trumps a bit of discomfort every time. I have 10 guitars and even live I seldom play a guitar more than twice before changing. I let the tunes dictate which guitar is best.

Finally I found a multi-scale guitar with a whammy bar in your video!

Having both an regular scale and musicale Ibanez bass, I love the multi scale bass on a lot of things other then the regular scale length. If you have the money to get a multi scale GET IT, but if you don't play that often and don't have the money for a multi scale, the regular works just about the same its really the feel and the muddiness of the lower notes

Given that I play 8's and prefer 24.75" with those 8's I have never felt the need to battle that "Floppyness" The few songs I need in drop a# I use 9-52 and yes. All my friends say I'm insane hahaha

Very informative. Thanks for the multi scale info. I'm definitely thanking thanking about picking one up. I like looks of the Ornsby Futura but I know there's a lot of guitar manufacturers producing them. Do you have a recommendations that I could check out. I steer towards passive pups. (Never tried any active) Very cool. Oh yea fyi I stumbled upon you channel searching for any good guitar shows. I saw you video on Rob Chapman and I was hooked. Funny thing I like Rob Chapman prior to watching. Good job. THANKS BRO!! be well

I am only 175cm and dont have that wide a wingspan, my Ormsby Multiscales are my most favourite, I can easily make the reaches needed, and I play 7 string ones, so add an extra .3"

I've been using GHS E Johnson nickel rockers. They're a mixed set of 10 & 11s, or 11s & 12s. Instead of heavy Low E, A and D then lighter B, B, and high E they have heavy Low E, A and G, light D, B and high E. They feel much more across the fretboard.

Oh god, surely you don't believe all that "better bass frequencies with thicker strand wire" bullcrap. I get that sponsors are the ones paying your bills and not me but still, passing along their snake oil puts your credibility in question I think. The limited lifetime warranty is a much better reason to get a cable like that, aside from the bump in build quality. I do not underestimate the cost saving power of quality gear however as far as audio quality goes, is a thick copper core going to be any different than the equivalent amount of copper in strand form if all other important factors, such as shielding, are equal? I would not take the marketing people at their word on this one. Do these companies not realize that it hurts their ad when it's so obvious that the creator is reading from their script?

We can see what you're really thinking when you're plugging those cables haha.

Funny he credits Ibanez with doing a non multi scale fan fret as a new thing, when Rickenbacker did it way back in the early 70’s. I had a ‘76 Ric 360 slanted fret, it was awesome.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 the Thumbnail is gold!!

I'm 5'10" with little baby hands. I like the tuning stability of longer scale lengths but I prefer the playability and comfort of shorter scales. I never got into fanned fretted guitars because they looked like the neck was bent, but after this I'm a bit more optimistic about them. I still think they look really weird but I'm curious about them now. Maybe next time I see one at a guitar store I'll pick it up and play it

Multiscales are only useful if you play downtuned metal. But there are no GREAT tremolo systems for them which means I'm out, and many other players as well.

Check out KDH views on youtube demoes in a previous video right here, ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-XhrUWRV6mvI.html, pay particular attention to the point made at 4:07 then watch his monster "demo..."

My hangup about multiscale is how uncomfortable they can be trying to bar a chord on the first 2 frets, especially the first fret. Otherwise, they are very comfortable.

Seems like a solution in search of a problem to me. But I'm also not into tuning my guitar down seven intervals to make it sound like a fart box. So, to each their own, I guess.

Cute chick. Not enough lady guitar players in today's scene. You're doing great sweetheart