What's Wrong With Pipe Clamps? // Clamp Week day 5

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Day 5 looking at some of the clamps in my shop...
Time to discuss the humble pipe clamp. // WnW 246
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I bet a lot of woodworkers started out with pipe clamps. They're fine, but I just liked parallel clamps better. As a hobbyist, the enjoyment of the tool is also something of value. It's not just about what is the cheapest.
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Index
00:00 Intro and My Story
00:30 How They Work
01:23 Different Kinds
02:26 Flaws
03:53 Enjoyment Matters
04:48 The End Of Clamp Week

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7 авг 2024

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@schm4704 3 года назад

The main point is that pipe clamps are incredibly affordable compared to pretty much every other option. I just checked: a 1000 mm Bessey K Body clamp will cost me about 70 bucks, more like 100 to 120 if I buy it locally, and don't even think about the really long ones which become ridiculously expensive because they are made of unicorn horns or something. A pipe clamp of arbitrary length is more like 20 bucks.

@Wordsnwood 3 года назад

Yup they are.

@jeffwells641 Год назад

Seems like the way people use pipe clamps is to get them early on when they're the only thing you can afford, and then upgrade when the frustration of using the pipe clamp exceeds the dollar value of the parallel clamps.

@glenschumannGlensWorkshop 3 года назад

Thanks. I started primarily with pipe clamps. Your comments are them are all accurate. I now have a number of parallel clamps. The difference in cost is huge. The parallel clamps were outside my budget back when I started.

@Wordsnwood 3 года назад

Yup, it's not necessarily a cheap hobby to get into.

@robertbankhead8661 3 года назад

Interesting opinion, I find pipe clamps are go to for long sections or supplement parallel clamp usage. Also I keep a collar on one end so i can lengthen the pipe clamp. Can’t imagine what Bessey would charge for a 96” parallel clamp. Thanks for the video to get your opinion out there and keep on making video’s as we learn something every time.

@barryallin8161 3 года назад

Sure parallell clamps are probably better than pipe clamps, but just as with your complaints about F-clamps in your previous video, in the end, it comes down to cost, cost, COST! (Oh yeah, and if you use galvanised pipe, it doesn't leave black marks on your work

@youtukang 3 года назад

Top 👍

@dannywilsher4165 3 года назад

This interesting series had me clamped to my seat. Thanks Art!

@Wordsnwood 3 года назад

thanks for sticking around.

@youtukang 3 года назад

Hello frieend 🙏🤝🇮🇩

@edcrego396 3 года назад

I have around twenty or so pipe clamps I love them there strong and believe me I have put them to the test I've never had any of them slip or mark the wood each and there own i

@Wordsnwood 3 года назад

Glad they work for you.

@lowbucksracing3579 6 месяцев назад

Like he said in the beginning "in the hobby" that says volumes long live the pipe clamp.

@FearsomeWarrior 3 года назад

I inherited my mom’s eight pipe clamps. They’re weight is what stops me from using them more. I know I’ve hit stuff with them when I did use them before I had other clamps. I think there greatest strength is pipe length and couplers for those times when you need 60 inch or longer.. making a bed or some larger dressers.

@barryirby8609 Год назад

I have pipe clamps I have been using for over fifty years. Best thing I ever did to them was add Baltic birch plywood faces to them, similar to yours but screwed into place. Made them all sit up at a uniform height. Also made the pads tall enough that they support the pipes when placed from the top side. Sprayed the pipes with rattle can lacquer to reduce staining. As to parallel jaw clamps, I have some but have not made friends with them yet. Very heavy and awkward. Limited stroke. Lots of plastic. My favorite ones are Dubuque aluminum bar clamps. Get some and you will leave the pipe clamps in the ceiling and those cursed parallel clamps hanging in the rack, waiting to be moved to the ceiling.

@scottrswan60 Год назад

Most woodworkers cannot afford 50 dollar parallel clamps and I have never had problems with pony clamps.

@JohnHeisz 3 года назад

Enjoyable series, Art.

@Wordsnwood 3 года назад

thanks, John. Was kind of fun to push myself to come up with five, and in quick succession.

@michaelbauer7023 Год назад

Parallel clamps are great for their intended purposes, but the gripes that you have with pipe clamps are either wrong or easily solved. For example, use galvanized pipe and glue a small piece of leather to the end of the pipe claps. If you damage the wood when using a leather pad, then you did not mill your material well enough. Parallel, F Clamps, and pipe clamps all have a place in a shop. In my opinion, pipe claps are superior to parallel for panel glue-ups. However, I still use parallel clamps in certain situations... as I do F claps... as I do spring clamps... as I do strap clamps... and so on.

@myanime101 Год назад

pipe clamp is the only option for needing a really long clamp and the sizing is literally infinite

@campbellpaul Год назад

Exactly. I used them to hold the sheet-metal sides of transfer tables to the table while welding them in place (as there is nothing to clamp to along the length).

@DracoPCC 3 года назад

I know a lot abouth clamps after watching a lot og woodworking channels for years, but I realy enjoyed this series. Good content and many good tips. Thank you Art.

@Wordsnwood 3 года назад

Awesome, thank you!

@smithd17 3 года назад

Great series Art. Thank you very much. I agree that pipe clamps are in general inferior to parallel clamps, with one exception (at least for me). When you really need to crank a lot of pressure on the joint or whatever you're clamping, pipe clamps can generate much more clamping force than parallel clamps. At least in my experience. Of course some will say "you shouldn't need that much force when clamping...", and they'd be right. But sometimes I find myself needing that extra clamping pressure, and when I do, the pipe clamps really shine. Other than that, parallel clamps carry the day imo. Thanks again for these vids and all the great work you do on your channel.

@Wordsnwood 3 года назад

thanks, David

@dangerfielddom 2 года назад

I’ll take your unwanted clamps. Beginner wood worker with little equipment here!! Haha great video thanks.

@WesHamstra 3 года назад

That’s interesting. I seem to only use pipe clamps. I can’t recall a time when they have slipped. I am starting to think I should try Parallel clamps

@Wordsnwood 3 года назад

Once you start you may regret it (the price...)

@Dragon-Slay3r Год назад

7 points the C clamp was also the S square made from 2 rectangles

@ytbillybob Год назад

You don't get rid of them because a few weeks after you do you'll need them. Never fails. Can I get an amen?

@kjohn231 3 года назад

You did a great job on this series. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Thank you!

@Wordsnwood 3 года назад

thanks! Appreciate it.

@MyGrowthRings 3 года назад

Art, great vid. I also own a couple pipe clamps that I haven't reached for in over twenty years. I also like the parallel clamps but my go-to is a good, lightweight aluminum bar clamp. They are light, apply plenty of force, and are a far better investment than pipe clamps. Enjoy your weekend, Scott

@Wordsnwood 3 года назад

Hear good things about those, but have never used them.

@NukeChiefMech 3 месяца назад

3/4” pipe 3 foot long costs $27 at big box store. Pipe suppliers sell 3/4 pipe for less than $2 per foot; of course, you’ll have to thread the pipe. Grizzly pipe clamps are about $13.

@pamsmith7369 5 месяцев назад

You can use 1/2” or 3/4”galvanized pipe here in the US pretty cheap and they will even cut them to length and thread them at Home Depot. Pony’s are the best but yours look different than mine.

@TheChavez1976 Год назад

I have a lot of problems with my parallel clamps. They don’t tightens as well and often don’t close right when I want them to and cause a lot of headache. The boot in the back tends to get stuck on the bar. I’m planning to switch them out to pipe clamps this weekend.

@youtukang 3 года назад

Excellent 😍😍😍😍👍

@glennmiller9487 3 года назад

Excellent Series. Thanks..

@BTimmer 3 года назад

Great series. There's at least one other type of clamp that I've found useful in my shop: wooden handscrew clamps. They're a bit bulky but nice to have Cccc around.

@Wordsnwood 3 года назад

never tried those, but I've thought about them...

@FearsomeWarrior 3 года назад

They’re so useful I like having two or three of various sizes. I just used them on drill press as a guide when drilling diagonal surface to stop it from moving my work piece. Made an alley kind of.

@JASinIL2006 9 месяцев назад

I use blue painter’s tape on both pipe clamps and parallel clamps, so that’s a bit of a non-issue for me. Parallel clamps are nice, but at 3 to 5 times the cost of pipe clamps, it’s hard to be able to stock a shop with the same amount of money if you bought only parallel clamps.

@rogermacdearmid4380 2 года назад

Stumbled across your channel today. Very entertaining style, fun to watch. You very much remind me of Steve Ramsey, WWMM channel. Keep up the good work.

@Wordsnwood 2 года назад

Poor Steve, always being compared to me. 😉

@RGRGJKK 10 месяцев назад

Pura vida mi amigo thanks for sharing your piece of advice about pipe clamps.pura vida

@Bogie3855 Год назад

I sold my Pony clamps and replaced them with the newer Bessey pipe clamps that have feet that hold them up off the glue table and stabilize the pipe. I also get 3ft double ended pipe and 2ft and purchased some pipe connectors so I can screw the pipes together to get big clamps without having to store them. The Bessey clamps work very well and have seen some hard use. I just put a piece of 1/4in plywood under the pipe to keep it from bowing. I use mine all the time and hang them off a 2x4 bolted to the wall to hang them from.

@alanmcwilliams4264 3 года назад

A very well balanced series and your observations, while your own, were very well explained. Here's hoping that you might did another series in future in the same vein, perhaps some of your power or hand tools

@Wordsnwood 3 года назад

We'll see... thanks for watching!

@berthatton9410 3 года назад

It was a good series and you were engaging...thanks.

@Wordsnwood 3 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it

@Bikeeast 3 года назад

I have a couple, they only get used for really big stuff 4-8 FT. I really do need to invest in some parallel clamps though. They look like they make glueups much easier.

@Wordsnwood 3 года назад

No surprise that I agree... 😁

@hansborgdesing 3 года назад

Good series, keep up clamping🙂

@youtukang 3 года назад

Hayyy sir 🙏🤝🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩

@matthewrentz3427 Год назад

Kewl video, I prefer pipe clamps. Because I wood and metal work I find them to be cost effective and I have modified them, welded the pipes to the table for a fixture.

@rpwolfe72 Год назад

You ca send all of those pesky pipe clamps down here to me!!! I would be more than happy to knpck the ust off of them.I couldn't afford parallel clamps at these crazy prices.Wish I could and definatelt need more clamps. I see all these videos and think a lot of the time, damn that must be nearly $10,000.00 worth of clamps. Gotta have dreams I guess.

@Wordsnwood Год назад

It's not something I bought overnight, that's for sure. And to be honest I don't even know what replacement cost would be nowadays.

@TheElgutiedu Год назад

Lamentablemente yo compré un juego de estos baratos y la única solución ha sido hacer perforaciones a lo largo del tubo cada 5 cm para bloquear esa pieza con un pasador atado a una pequeña cadena ahora sí que funciona de maravilla y es imposible que se resbale un saludo

@benjaminbrewer2154 3 года назад

I think the screw of the pony clamp can generate more force. (I don't have any parallel clamps yet but thought they had a smaller diameter screw.) And they hold up fairly well to crude use and abuse. ie using them as a burke-bar to shift old iron around the shop.

@Wordsnwood 3 года назад

Parallel clamps have various screw types.

@blackstars3720 Год назад

If you don't use them I'll take them?

@bahandigilbert9386 Год назад

In may on,boy pipe clamp cheffed,comper to Ligget clamp, because aincanot apord to expensive clamp...

@pocket83 3 года назад

Devil's advocate here. I'll do it first, and be nice. This video could attract some serious hellfire ire. In RU-vid world, as soon as a tool is claimed to be useless, a chasm opens and locusts with scorpion tails and the faces of commenters spring forth. Ok, I'll admit, my Pony clamps have leaned in the corner rusting for most of their lives. But the video seems to keep your low opinion of them restricted to the context of woodworking, and outside of that, pipe clamps are indispensable! They deliver an almost unmatched point-force over generous length. Just recently, I used a few to straighten a bent snowplow, which would've been harsh otherwise. No hate here-I totally get it. It's just my recommendation that you _not_ get rid of 'em yet. Might regret it ;) On another subject, it's seriously awesome that you openly hold a clipboard as you go through your points. That's a level of genuine that you can't fake. It also tells us that you're actually trying to make a case, and not just ask us pointless, empty questions without coming to a conclusion. I hate when they do that. I appreciate your opinion!

@Wordsnwood 3 года назад

Advocate to your hearts content. And it's true I'm just speaking my own opinion as a woodworker. I claimed that clipboard when a coworker moved out of his office. It seems to be an old 286 motherboard (or similar). I don't have a teleprompter, I don't like tons of cuts, and too often I get through a take and realize I forgot to add one point. (actually I've tried teleprompter software on a mini tablet, but generally i find it a bit of a pain to set up so I'd rather just wing it) thanks for dropping in your 2 cents.

@marcenariahobby7pallet 3 года назад

👍👍👍👍muito top 👍👍👍👍🇧🇷💯

@theonoo Год назад

Price comparison?

@petercollin5670 3 года назад

I would call pipe clamps "better than nothing".

@Wordsnwood 3 года назад

that's one way to put it. 🤔🤔🤔 😁😁😁

@lukeblackford1677 Год назад

Do they work on pex?

@Wordsnwood Год назад

I don't understand the question?

@tomscorner3656 2 года назад

I use my pipe clamps all the time to clamp full size 7 foot doors togethers. If you tighten the clamp to where the pipe bends, your clamping way to tight. No reason to clamp wood that tight.

@worstuserever 3 года назад

Gripping! 😁

@Monty-bi6mf 9 часов назад

Must be cheap in Canada. not cheap here, in the US.

@larryohara6513 3 года назад

I following the "affirmation': "You can't have enough clamps." You look like you have a number of p-clamps, but at what cost? I don't own any large p-clamps because I have a large number of pipe clamps, 3/4 and 1/2" at probably way less than the cost of the p-clamps. I can buy more pipe clamps than I can buy p-clamps at less cost. I do agree that they have their cons, but use them enough and it becomes irrelevant. Just another opinion.! :)

@ajgillies 2 года назад

Are you a Canadian woodworker? You mentioned Canadian tire and Busy Bee tools. Please try to support fellow Canadians with (affiliate) links to Canadian distributors for products if you can 😃 unless amazon Canada doesn’t allow it?

@markavery2888 3 месяца назад

But Why? You never mentioned why you like your other clamps better. I have only used pipe clamps and agree with everything you said, but I never considered it a problem.

@chancetolbert4852 3 месяца назад

i just can barely justify the cost of parallel clamps.

@AdamLVose 3 года назад

I totally respect you opinion about pipe clamps, and strongly disagree. Pipe clamps are easily reconfigured and much less expensive. Just avoid black iron because of staining.

@Wordsnwood 3 года назад

The world would be pretty boring if we all liked the same things! Thanks for watching

@rickfletcher8389 3 года назад

No C-clamps? No spring clamps? No ratchet clamps? No specialist clamps (for clamping corners, edge pieces etc). At least another four episodes’ worth…..

@Wordsnwood 3 года назад

No c-clamps at all. What is there to say about spring clamps? I do have a strap clamp, but again, I did not think I had any story to relate about it.