What's Wrong With These Products? 

*Hays 😬 Earl Hayes was a very different bloke.

❤ thank you again for helping tell the story of this amazing place

More please.

Do you have heisler beer

absolutely fascinating stuff. please keep these videos coming!

I felt like I was in the Chinese market in Russia shopping for a pair of Adidos and a pack of Duradell batteries.

A large UK chain, similar premise, had the buying power to purchase brand name products, in subtly reduced sizes... so it looked cheaper 😂

Aldi's

Budget flea market

Mountain lighting was the shit though ngl

Besides what he said about being in trouble and owing fees to use a product, they also want to _get_ money for product placement. They won't casually use something without investigating whether they can get a product placement fee.

@@JohnDlugosz You can also get into trouble when the producers or network has a relationship with a competing brand. This means everything needs to be obscured or produced by the art department.

I wonder if SMEAT is causing a dip in the demand for SPAM props.

@@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 I wonder if Monty Python doing an entire skit on their product increased the demand for those props in the first place 😂

"Get your damn hands off my Lets!"

I have also been a designer, and one who has worked on productions. I’ve was once responsible for “Greeking” an entire pharmacy, that is making fake Rx labels. Something that’s bothering me in these series of videos is that Adam doesn’t mention that it’s almost always the job of an art department to dress the background. Usually, the prop masters are making “hero” objects (items that lead actors are interacting with).

What is your obsession with fake items. Are you afraid of the truth?

Mind if I ask for clarification regarding the SMEAT label? My understanding is that these were all designed and printed at Earl Hays, in a very large volume as Mike says... Did you make additional copies from original prints?

That's cool and yea I seen the morleys and was like oh movie products lol

pokey the penguin? "smeat will do that to you."

@@Thomas_Esson if they made enough prints of SMEAT that the stock is still being sold today. id imagine they used far more printers than earl hays had to offer. they probably outsourced it forsure.

@@newp0rt You're rather overlooking the scale of operations at the time - EHP serviced practically all of Hollywood up through the 90s. They had far, far greater capacity for volume (not to mention print quality) than a tiny town's copy center with a single color machine.

Rhett and Link had to been fans because now they have the Mythical Kitchen.

​@@williammitchell4417 ah the Mythical brand came from the Mythical Beast colouring book they did as children, it has nothing to do with Mythbusters.

you should watch "the boys" with this in mind. i was rewatching it recently and holy. the entire WORLD is filled and remarketed with fake movies, brands, shows, etc for the superheroes in the show. its absolutely insane. so much random stuff is just rebranded to fit this superhero filled world thats set in our own world.

No, he was wrong about that. A movie can’t realistically be sued for showing real products in their film. Trademark law only prevents against competing products using your logo to trick customers into buying it. For 99% of use a company couldn’t do anything about their product being in a film. There are only a handful of scenarios where a company could sue. If you defame a product, like say the main character eats a dorito and says “these taste bad.” You could find yourself in a lawsuit although that isn’t guaranteed for doritos to win because of context, if maybe they were saying that because it was an expired bag, it would be fine. If it was part of a joke, you also wouldn’t really have an issue because of parody law. A good example is the movie Idiocracy. Where they not only used real brand names but they changed their slogans and names to be explicit. So basically the company would have to be able to prove that your film damaged the brand. It’d have to be like a corona virus situation where they have hard proof of sales declining before and after the event. The main reason movies/tvshows clear products is because they don’t want to upset the brands that they advertise with. Brands might not want to work with you if they see your content promoting other products for free. Typically shows that don’t rely on advertising like HBO, Netflix, and Apple tend to use real products.

I think its a lot whit how its used. like example from some older bond movies the brand of phone used switches depending on what the phone is used for like the phone used by bond in hero mode was one brand. but when the bad guy IED maker (Improvised explosive device) need to have a receiver for his/her bomb use a phone (just look at the phone brand).

I think the real problem would be when a brand is paying for product placement. You can't have any other real brands visible or you would dilute the effectiveness and would be sued for breach of contract.

@@paulp4201 The fun one in the UK 2nd Series onwards of The Professionals and then "The Sweeney" , the Good guys got cars from Ford free of charge. Ford also provided the cars for the badies - mostly British Leyland makes

It's product placement. I remember when I was a teen the WB/CW was the worst. Not only would they use real products, but the camera would linger on a product label for way to long.

Oh, he loves Meow Wolf! He’s been.

​@@testedI'm extremely happy that one recently opened up 30 minutes from where I live!

@@tested Then, please, where's the video? 😁

It's a marketing nightmare to walk into a store with nothing but row after row of white boxes. The "store brand" needs to be as recognizable at a distance as the name brands.

Do it. Make us amazingly hilarious fake brands!!

Beats paying an army of lawyers

If you walk into an Aldi you'll get that feeling too. Brands and packaging which resemble A-brands but which aren't.

That reminded me of a Reddit post I saw a while back where it was like that but with branding switched between Heinz ketchup and Elmer's school glue, though just the text was switched.

Omega Mart?

Claus oldenburg

As a former prop collector and prop maker, it's one of the things I've recreated myself. Like Adam, because of the X-Files and while I've seen it several times since then, I also never knew it went that far back in movie/TV history.

I guess RPF will now go and find every movie that ever featured Morleys

I love the idea of media including tiny jokes hidden in plain sight.

Miniature wizards also hide jokes in their work all the time and I love it.

Since these are intended to be general use props for countless film and television productions, they can't assume they will always be in the background.

Late reply, but the whole "Morley" vs "Llama" cigarettes thing was used in an episode of NCIS as well.

I guess virtual items are part of what hays can provide too

No company wants its brands or products to be seen in a negative light.

The legal world is weird. I think in their minds, say a Coke can is in a TV/Movie scene where a person gets murdered. In some litigious persons mind that equates the brand Coke with murder. Its like some mental gymnastics you have to do, but one unstable minded potential customer could equate the two and then not buy the product. This is how they think. It is almost pandering to the most unlikely outcome.

Yes, this is a whole different, but related, aspect to the matter. Very interesting how the fine balance between free publicity and copyright infringement can benefit/harm both (brands and film studios) ends of the invoved.

@@thejunkman obvious can for a such a movie. Croak

Ahhhhh, true!

often. in the UK , a trade mark will be in a class (eg Wedgewood for ceramics. in theory someone could create wedgewood (name but not logo style) underpants)

​@@highpath4776ASDA had a line of "microsoft" underwear.

I find it amazing that there's someone out there with a problem like "I can't buy this exact model of can without buying 100,000 of them." That sounds like a very unique problem to have.

@@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 It's a recurring issue in prop replication.

is that a different person from the metal bass player?

@@espalier Yes

@@espalier He's a prop master that is based in Texas (he's currently working on the new Walker, Texas Ranger). If I understood his video right he "invented" silent pool balls. As said above his channel's name is ScottPropandRoll and brace yourself for the dad jokes...

Scott Reeder's channel is great. It would be awesome to see a video with Adam, Scott and Michael together.

Isn't Sherpies a disease afflicting sheep.