My husband is Parisian so we go to Paris often. Most Parisians aren’t “fashionable”. They are regular people, wearing functional clothing that aren’t especially stylish or interesting. It’s like how not all Californians are tan and blond.😂
I noticed the same thing in my trip to Milan. I was expecting much more fashion. Though I must say, on another trip to Italy (some 15 years later) I noticed everyone wearing a style that you didn’t see in the US. Then a year or two later, everyone in the states was wearing that style, so Italy was ahead of us in fashion.
I lived in Paris for many years and I have to admit that when I visited London at weekends the most noticable thing was that there were more chic people in London than I ever saw in Paris. Unless they were all Parisians on holiday 😂
So true, lol, I live south of Paris, and when I hear influences go on and on about French fashion and style I'm just all like "who, but who, lol, no one I know or see, lol". In my area I see people in tennis shoes and track suits all the time too, lol. Honestly, when I used to live in Korea I felt like Koreans dressed more like how this mythological Parisian dresses, lol
In reference to avoiding the puffers and that regardless of the weather the French stick to their wool coats…well, let me tell you one thing: I ALWAYS prefer a stylish wool coat over a puffer, but when you live in a country where winters are bitter cold (now in Norway we’ve been on -25C for days) you have no choice but to wear a good warm awful knee-long puffer and thick layers, unless you think that getting frostbites is stylish. Sometimes all these style rules totally ignore the actual functionality of clothing.
Um, what part of France are you in? Lol. I see puffers and anoraks everywhere, I only see wool coats when someone wants to look a bit "nicer" like any other country, but from what I've seen, and I don't live far from Paris, puffers and anoraks are alive and well here, lol
This is not conservative i meab they prever minimal classic look because the status symbol pieces match to simple style! Belt bag watch ...For foreigb yes it look conservative , another country people are more creative and live more colour and more style not stick only trench coat and blazer. I really dont undestand why do they push it too much to look masculine.
I think best dressed men are the Japanese and the Italian. The Japanese because of what you talked about, the Italian because they are a bit committed than the French. Best dressed city I would say is NYC because of the variety and commitment. I think in New York, if we compare it to Paris, people are expressing themselves, being creative and are having fun. Paris takes fashion very seriously and there can be a lot of judgement which restricts people in their expression. The reason, in my opinion NY is better over Tokyo is because in Japanese culture there are strict codes as to how a woman should dress, i.e. the skirts can be as short as humanly possible, but no cleavage. So for women there isn't quite the same freedom as there is for men. Thanks for a great video
I lived in Paris back and forth for 6 months last year, so I am by no means an expert. But while living there the fits I was most impressed by were norm core fits. I very rarely saw Parisians wearing French designer brands, they usually wore vintage clothes from their family or around Paris, or some shit from like Monoprix which slaps sometimes tbh lol. I think the thing that French people and in particular Parisians do well is figuring out what their proportions are, and what proportions look good on them, which makes even normal clothes look more elevated than usual
I've always found this romantic and cute view of the beret very amusing. For starters, the beret is not originally Parisian, it's from the South of France and the Pirynees, and had been for centuries a cap for men from working classes: shepherds, sailors, manual workers. In rural Spain is also very popular. Only in mid 20th century it started to be asociated with Paris and chic women. I like to wear berets and headwear in general, but I have this contradictory image in my head of a chic girl in a cosmopolitan city and an old grandpa in a lost village at the same time. P.S.: If you really like berets, take clues from old grandpas and buy Elosegui.
Exactly, béret is coming from the Pays Basque, north and south of Pyrénées, Atlantic side, and is pretty much worn there (certainly by older men, but never by women). It is a hat for shepherds and peasants. When young women are wearing it, it is more in cities like in Paris, but it has been emphasized in movies, and magazines, mostly by Americans, more than in French reality !
@@cms3000that ornithologist in The Birds comes to mind. I am 65 and wear my beret all winter….because it stays on during windy weather. I have been wearing one for literally 60 years. Without actually feeling the wool depth I have bought a few on line only to return…Kangol was my go to in the 70s and 80s. Worked in retail and was able to buy them at a discount so had many colors. Now they are $70…so I store my grey one in the cedar chest in the off months. Thanks for the manufacturer tip. I have one of these my sister brought me from Spain Basque region…looks better on my son.
i think Montreal is a very slept on fashion city as someone who is from LA and has been to NYC. Paris etc. They may not be big into the whole fashion show scene but to me for every day looks and participation, they blew NYC and Paris out the water.
So true!!! I think it's a slept-on city just in general. unfortunately the language laws in Quebec are only making it more difficult to stay in Montreal long-term for non French-speakers, but it does present a wonderful opportunity for learning French
@@addie699 I must add the new language laws, democratically voted by Quebec National Assembly, are now in court - Canada-appointed of course. To break it, they will invoke the 1982 Constitution for which Quebec never signed for. That's how they protect the French minority in North America.
montreal fashion students are better than any other fashion student, there is no discussion needed. if it was more popular nyc would lick the boots of montreal.
I remember reading that only Americans wear trainers on the street in Paris. And the author of the article was very critical of Americans because of their trainers. Then I went. Everyone was wearing them - French, Germans, Italians, and Americans. Only the Japanese we’re wearing other shoes.
I think there is a big difference with looking fashionable/avant garde vs stylish. I think people are enamoured by the "french look" because it doesn't try too hard and looks both flattering, timeless and kinda sexy. Tokyo may look more fashionable but it's also kinda ugly too (which I guess is the point). Don't get me wrong though, ugly is a good look too sometimes, especially on the young imo (I am middle aged so I can safely say this without appearing ageist). I myself have always loved ugly shoes but they must be worn with intention and provide an interesting juxtaposition (they are comfortable too).
Je suis française. I'm not convinced that the quiet luxury trend is echoed in the "BoHo" style. I'm thinking that BCBG, "Bon Chic. Bon Genre" is more representative of quiet luxury. I have always loved playing with clothes and stood out like a sore thumb growing up in France. I now live in western Canada and still love playing with clothes, and when people here tell me how "stylish" I am, and how "very French" that is, I have to laugh, as I have always thought that French people, including Parisians dress very boring, as they don’t like to stand our, as they often consider standing out as inappropriate. Jeans, blazer, dress shirt, flats, scarf. Classic, sure... but boring! Ooohhh le Bleu de Travail! Always reminds me of the late Bill from New York, on his bike, in his french Bleu de Travail, and photographing street fashion. I miss his kind heart. He saw beauty everywhere.
your videos make me laugh out loud, so refreshing... I'm lucky enough to have visited both Paris and Tokyo on several occasions, and what strikes me is the similarity of the two cities when it comes to style, for sure there is the outlandish style of Tokyo, but in general, people in both cities dress in well-tailored beautiful clothes, I always feel inspired and at the same time feel like a slob. The attention to detail and appreciation of design is valued in both cultures.
I have a lot of French friends and they usually give me compliments when I'm too lazy to get ready, but I have to look presentable. In New York, I can wear anything and get compliments as long as I serve looks. ( you can walk in the city wearing a literal "corn" costume and someone will tell you that you look amazing and cool) lol! It is kinda funny
I found the fashion scene in Paris quite conservative when I was there last year. I also got looked at and complemented in Paris a bit which felt like a win. Cool video.
Loved your video...I live in Croatia, where most of people (who care about fashion) are absolutely BASIC. It is nice to see more daring fashion styles when I travel abroad.
Kompliciranije ne znači nužno bolje :) for a je vidjeti kad posjetis. Ja živim u Berlinu, nakon nekog vremena skužis da i oni svi izgledaju isto i kopiraju iste stilove, i opet je dosadno...
I grew up in Russia, and I'm conditioned to wear parkas and puffers, even though I've lived in London for so long now. It's impossible for me to justify wearing a bulky coat just to go to work. Brands like Studio Nicholson can meet you midway with short coats. The coats are reserved for theatre & fancy dress. Thanks for a cool video!
I grew up on the countryside in France and a lot of people bought their clothes in supermarkets, or markets (selling off brand fast fashion clothes), or nondescript retailers. H&M was kind of fancy, oh and Celio for business attire. The « fast fashion » brands you cited were wayyyyy outside of our scopes. And wayyyy outside of most people actually. Parisian fashion is very different from the other smaller cities fashion, Parisians are more put together, more chic (richer)
Tbf supermarkets like monoprix, even though now more and more expensive (🥲) not infrequently have amazing quality pieces and are 1/3 of the price for the same piece from a higher tier brand/atelier
Interesting! I remember when the first H&M store opened up within driving distance from me here in midwestern USA. It was one of the first stores to become part of an outdoor shopping “village”, which began being built in 2004 and has been added onto a lot since then. I would say throughout the first 5 years after they arrived in our area, H&M was seen as being very “posh”, slightly expensive (prices were probably similar to what they are today but prices were rarely discounted), the quality was a bit better than today, and they were a bit less FAST than they are now with bringing out new styles. That same location still exists today, and there are other locations in cities surrounding that area now, but the quality/business has definitely changed and the brand is viewed much differently (more negatively) by people nowadays.
@@imaneightiesbaby For sure. Plenty of people definitely still shop there, as the location has continued to thrive since 2004 😒 Based on my own observations online and real life interactions / relationships, its customer base currently seems like it might be primarily a combination of a younger (below 25) demographic and middle age (around 45 to 60) demographic, who might not be fully aware of the issues with fast fashion just yet, but would be willing to at least lessen their consumption when they do become aware.
Massive tourism is an excuse I’m a Spaniard in Paris and I know both cultures being very touristic countries they are like day and night dealing with it
Still at the first question and I can RELATE to the rudeness although it was not consistent in every interaction I've had with every Parisian. For context, I am Asian (Filipino) and I only ever experienced rudeness once during my 1 week stay and that was when I was at a the Saint Ouen flea market. I tried to say "Bonjour, madame" to the lady that sold buttons and she just went right on to say "what do you want?" 😅 I felt a little silly because I have been practicing how to say that exact phrase many times just so I didn't sound stupid.
As an immigrant in France that lives just south of Paris, I agree with the guest, lol, I hate Paris for the most part, lol, and Lille is one of my absolute favorite places!!!! Lille is much more walkable than Paris too. As for fashion, yep, the French do tend to be a bit conservative I guess, but it's more like they don't want to call attention to themselves, I guess I should say French living in richer areas close to bigger cities. The French like to seem like they have no inhibitions, but there are these cultural rules of "saving face" that are so similar to Korea or Japan. They are NOT the same social rules, not at all, but the feeling is still there, and it's this thing that bleeds into their food etiquette also. My French partnr is very "bavard" (super outspoken and talkative and gets excited about things) to a point where French people tease him and say he's not really French, lol, his own mother gets after him for making "mmmm" sounds if he's really enjoying a meal saying something condescending like "you might've been able to do that in Korea, but here in France it's not polite". This is generalized, and is more of a white ethnic French thing, of course, but it does bleed a bit into the general French culture. I feel like it's social rules left over from the 1800s of middle class people wanting to seem like they were rich and/or cultured, otherwise I can't explian it, I mean there was even a law made not long ago that prevents companies from discriminating someone based on their regional dialect, lol, especially if it's a dialect that sounds "uncouth" or "garish" or "loud"
As an european, the US american definition of an "european style" confuses me even more than a "french style". Like: where in europe? Do they mean french when they say europe? Do they mean a mix of french and italian high fashion styles?
Really interesting and fun! Thank you to you and your interviewee! 😊❤ By the way, I needed dress pants for my new job and I decided to choose a second-hand pair by Joseph based on your words about them in a previous video (that they make good quality basics). I am very happy with this pair; they fit so well and look really polished! Thank you for that recommendation! 🤗
People draw a weird picture about French style online. But the ordinary, French people are just everybody else. Paris is expensive, like you said. They can't wear all Dior :D I think they dress functional a lot. The every day working person is not that fashionable. Logos is not heir thing so much.
This comment remind me a video of a rich British RU-vidr girl, when she was in Milan she asked many young Italian girls what are you wearing, and the answer was: Massimo Dutti, Zara, Mango, H&M 😂 And the British girl asked them why they not wear Italian brands such as Prada, Gucci, Armani, Loro Piana, Bottega Veneta etc. and they said because we are not rich 😂
Great video. And luv his answers , agree wholeheartedly with all answers 🙏🏻. Especially the one for the first question. And I felt it already in the 80’s (and later): nothing especially interesting on the streets in Paris. Even than there were the Paninaros in Milano and London of course.
Ai as Brazilian living in NYC I’m so overwhelmed about the western way fashion way of blah blah blah. Every French I’ve meet in NYC are not the best dressed , maybe in France but here never meet people wearing clothes or styles that are really impressive . Being classic is not an excuse for being superior . If u have privilege is more than “ natural “ that u get access and dress classic DUH Very but very generic
How the people like to dress in Brasil? In NY does the people wear too much classic/ official and masculine pieces? And the dominant colour is black and grey?
so tired of only hearing french fashion influence in classical style, yet literally France has had such an influence on street style as well, I'm talking tracksuits and nike tn's
Sorry guys. But Italy wins in this department. In Milan I observed all men at work wore clean and polished styles, and women of all ages look super classy!
Sorry guys. French workwear is just as pretentious as sartorial style. It's just cosplay unless you're an actual French manual laborer. At least with sartorial style, you're buying a bespoke suit made just for you---good for you, for the environment and good for the artisans.
@@chocobarre3178nah, both are pretentious. Hipsters, bohemians, Tokio style, sartorials, Seoul style, Avant garde, etc. All are pretentious. Now look at the people that travel and live in Tulum Mexico, with their Tuluminati look 😂
@@cms3000 meh as long as you are self aware,doesnt play a role and the outfit is cool its all good imo Pretentious people just forgot to have fun with fashion
Heard a lot of people comparing the term bobo to 80's yuppie, which I think is a good comparaison. There's also BCBG/ Bon Chic Bon Genre (more of a way to dress than a lifestyle tho) a term that used to be thrown at everything and anything in the early 2010's while it just described a very ivy league-like preppy fit
I spent a week in Paris, an older French woman was trying to have a conversation with me on the bus, but I did not speak French, she got so angry because I didn’t speak the language.
Hah I spent a summer in Paris and they dresed so dull....black upon black upon black... the food was amazing, the architecture, the brocante in Paris, the museums those are HEAVEN. The service in restaurants is brutal and rude, the train and other transport customer service is TRASH and more like mortal combat than service. Parisians are So boring in their fashion...just plebian. I have been to Florence but never MIlan...I watch Milan street videos for fashion fun.
🐨🦘🦘🦘🇦🇺Great video & oooh i do looove your jumper Tuba! So interesting to hear the views of a young Frenchman… my husband is French 🇫🇷 (an old Frenchman of 57) who is an interior architect. We have been together for 35 years… for him life in general is about respect and definitely quality over quantity! He cannot abide “une arnaque”, being swindled or ripped off (who can tolerate this?😵💫) by paying a huge price for something purporting to be of high quality only to find it looks terrible after only a few uses… he hates social injustice of any sort also… Quintessentially french fashion!? I would say it’s savoir-faire (knowledge & skill) & quality… which I think is the reason why in France you pay huge prices for vintage designer items… it’s because quality is highly prized… the chicest & wealthier old money French hate loud labels… totally tacky & insecure displays of wealth… are just a reflection of an inferior flawed personality! French women are very practical so bare legs & cleavage in winter I have honestly NEVER seen, goosebumps & & shivering is definitely not chic!! So that’s it from the perspective of an Aussie wife with a french husband 🇦🇺🇫🇷🐨🦘🦘🦘❤️❤️❤️❤️
Love what you said about your sister and how she said she made it easy for you to go the creative route and do what you want because no one expects anything from you. I was so fascinated by how you said that. It made me rewind and listen three times. I am guessing that you were being sarcastic, meaning you did not agree with her. Let me know if I am wrong. Thanks for sharing those side thoughts and not editing them out. They’re interesting.
@@chegu613many Italians are into quiet luxury style and Italy has many quiet luxury brands such as Brunello Cucinelli, Loro Piana, Canali, Corneliani, etc.
@@emmamartin4045 Good taste in excess is just as heavy on the eye as bad. At least bad taste is rarely formulaic and stimulates rather than sends one to sleep.
@@sararichardson737 Seriously. I don’t know if you’re American or not, but they have incredibly bad taste. I’d rather be boring than dress like them. Everybody makes fun of American tourists and their awful taste 😂😂😂
What about brands that are mid range but still use real leather or cow leather in their bags that are french and is made in france? Because he metions to buy from LVMH group but there are brands like Pourchet, Lancaster, Maison Heritage...that I see on Vinted and such a pitty that people see value in brands like JW Pei or Charles and Keith (LVMH Brand) when their bags are made of polymer basically and they hold value because of marketing unlike those french brands and french woman sell it like it is nothing...
Just today I watched some video footage from a friend visiting her in laws in france at christmas and the first thing that came to mind was how bland and traditional their clothes were. they didnt wear any make up and the clothing were definitely well loved by males and females. no cool scarves, hats or shoes. nothing wrong with it at all- just very basic.
Lol he really has an issue with those ‘sartorialists’ - between normcore and Y2K I think it would catch my attention seeing someone in something tailored - guess the pendulum has swung.
Love this video. I love the style in Tokyo. In fact I use to go to Paris for fashion but now I go to Tokyo. I live in LA and will say we have no sense of style here as a whole. Especially here in LA.
I was watching a video, of How People dress in High end Fashion in MALAN streets and Shopping Areas, I presume it was Their Expensive Shopping areas! I was Gobsmacked at The expense these Italians go to to Look Current and Wear the Latest Fashions! I know and have learnt NO French, So being from an English Speaking African Country.. I would be in deep Trouble visiting and staying in Paris! New Subscriber, Loved listening. Thank you 🙏🏻🎊 Agree with you regarding Boot Cut Jeans, they Unflattering too!
I think its funny he likes overpriced workwear (400e for a jacket! Lol) But hates guys who dress in suits because it looks too rich / worship people who shouldnt be worshipped. What a paradox
The double standard. They worship pretentious expensive hipster brands that makes expensive regular denim clothes and hate sartorials that make real luxury clothes with fabrics like cashmere, whool, and silk.
I'm with him on the SMCP, Sézane, Zadig&Voltaire! Visited most of these shops in London and everything I looked at was made in Asia and the quality of the materials were terrible. They looked like costume pieces that didn't fit well and wouldn't last.
The real question is : who's profiting from mass tourism cause it's very rarely the inhabitants or for very low wages types of jobs. So don't be mean to the people in general but the tourists don't really bring "us" business while over crowding our spaces, and it's the same in so many big cities.
Ciao, I'm living in Italy, before to move here i thought they always so chic stylish, but not they just wear what they like, some woman might try to be elegant, classy but these old women. Clothing made in Italy expensive bcz taxes almost to 70% governmnet says 45 whcich is not true. Fashionable people are in Milan not in Rome😂, guess is the same in Paris there more people care about fashion just because more people living more than anywhere else in France. I'm Kazakh we more stylish than Italians😂 i met in Almaty almost every second woman look so stylish some kind of competition, selfcare is so high if you dont have nails done you are sluggy😂. Our fashion is to wear traditional clothes wich i love, we don't like everybody wearing fast fashion Zara H&M so on or kind of luxury brands too kitchy, they look all the same also in Europe i can tell.
I agree, the west European fashion influancer try to push their fashion idea s on to the east or middle Europe. We hate the masculine and Boeing colour styles we dont like to look official we like to look feminim. But because of the mass fasion they do some brainwash in the young people brain and they really look like everybody . Those people who do shopping in New Yorker look like in a uniform.
POV: Paris is the fashion capital of the world because they know how to not look crazy and whack lol and just "normal," well fitted, and balanced...lol and that's why they look at everyone else like they're crazy lol
Boot cut jeans?? Strongly disagree, I'm so glad they are back, finally I can grab at store again something flattering my curve figure, they balance hips and legs. On the contrary skinny jeans and low waist..ugh..ok, they can exit, but not replace all styles! They are not complimentary for all body shapes
Mdrrr mocks bobo and then say his fav "trend" is bleu de travail... omg, like this used to be extremely cheap because it was working class outfits and now since its a trend they sell it for super expensive prices like its just a gentrified clothing 😂😂 to me wearing bleu de travail nowadays is the same vibe as wearing Lidl socks you payed 100eur second hand after Lidl sold all of their stock for 1.99
