What the Harvard Lawsuit Revealed to You: How Admissions Officers Rate Applicants

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1:26 - Overview
3:13 - What happens to your file when it reaches the admissions office
4:43 - Academics
6:17 - Extracurriculars
7:49 - Athletic
8:45 - Personal
12:00 - Recommendations
12:50 - Alumni Interview
13:50 - My own opinion: Is Harvard's admission system fair? Is it effective?
17:15 - My own opinion: Should this rating system be kept?
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Hi all! Today, we discuss what the Harvard Asian Admission Lawsuit revealed: Harvard admissions office's reading procedures. While this is specific to Harvard, many top tier institutions, like Yale, Princeton, Stanford, utilize similar procedures to rate applicants. In explaining how the rating system works and what it means for you, the applicant, I also integrate my own take on whether the current reading procedures are fair and effective, as well as how race and socioeconomic classes are affected. I hope you found the video insightful and feel free to leave opposing opinions, questions, or ideas in the comments section!
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@irisfu6929 4 года назад

Hi all! I hope you enjoy this highly requested video. Feel free to continue the conversation below, as I’m only one person with a singular perspective. Hopefully, we can stir some intellectual discussion into all the college application info on this channel. Sending best wishes and have a beautiful day 💕

@viankachetty1100 4 года назад

Can you please do a video on how you study/how you made your notes etc.? Btw you are amazing and sooo pretty ♥️♥️♥️

@irisfu6929 4 года назад

Vianka Chetty hey vianka!! Definitely planning that for this upcoming school year when I actually start studying again ahaha but for now these are the videos I’ve made on studying!! Enjoy xx ru-vid.com/group/PLnPec3n73CxKMa4CHUoP-JlfvPLsjgNT6

@viankachetty1100 4 года назад

Hey Iris ♥️ thank you sooo much ♥️♥️

@irisfu6929 4 года назад

Aasritha Butti hi! I think it’s pretty similar to Harvard’s. Unfortunately, Yale doesn’t release their full reading procedure, but I’d recommend you check out the podcast, inside the Yale admissions office (hosted by two Yale AOs!) for more insight!!

@hasninemamud3222 4 года назад

does you have to take sat subject test?? is it essential for International student?

@pandacat5697 4 года назад

Plot twist : she is actually a secret Harvard admission officer

@unknownservers3420 2 года назад

Too young

@vinh8022 2 года назад

@@unknownservers3420 no shit sherlock

@zealous7691 3 года назад

"maybe discover a new planet" me be like: yea that's easy lemme just grab my dad's spaceship

@imnotfunny2 2 года назад

lol you still use you don’t have your own spaceship? what are you 5? /j

@annemmie Год назад

@@imnotfunny2 wait you haven’t invented your own spaceship model yet? bfr, I see a clear 6 here🙄🙄🙄 /j

@KenIzuka 4 года назад

6:02 "Discover a new planet..."

@irisfu6929 4 года назад

Lol 😂 legit someone in my stanford class did that sooo.... 😳

@KenIzuka 4 года назад

@@irisfu6929 Well, I better buy a telescope soon.

@queenelizabethll1080 3 года назад

@@KenIzuka so......did you find one?

@sydneyanderson2484 4 года назад

you best believe I’m not skipping the ads!!💓 such an interesting perspective! I hope you are feeling more motivated now :,,) I’m excited to learn more about your passion projects and personality!🥺

@irisfu6929 4 года назад

Hahahaha thanks and yes I am feeling more motivated!! Excited to share more about my stories, experiences, and opinions these coming weeks 💕

@annakorczak4478 4 года назад

I can't believe this hasn't gone viral.

@irisfu6929 4 года назад

LOL share it with anyone who you think would find it helpful!

@williamdiep6803 4 года назад

Wow, you continue to post such helpful, useful information. You just made my day with this meaningful content! And from your video before this one, thank you so much for being so honest and sincere with us. We love seeing you! Continue doing what you love to do and know that we appreciate everything you do!!

@irisfu6929 4 года назад

William Diep Aw thanks for this comment! Glad you enjoy the content

@kennynguyen9808 3 года назад

Timestamps 1:26 - Overview 3:13 - What happens to your file when it reaches the admissions office 4:43 - Academics 6:17 - Extracurriculars 7:49 - Athletic 8:45 - Personal 12:00 - Recommendations 12:50 - Alumni Interview 13:50 - Is Harvard's admission system fair? Is it effective? 17:15 - Should this rating system be kept?

@gauripandey605 3 года назад

Thank you

@rishi4537 2 года назад

Thank u XD

@froppysjello3116 4 года назад

This was so helpful! Even though I want to go to UPenn (I'm in sixth grade haha) , your video gave me a sense of what to expect! I am often not really interested in watching a whole video like this but yours was so engaging and interested I didn't even decide to skip the ads! Great job and you just got yourself a new subscriber.

@irisfu6929 4 года назад

So glad this video was engaging and helpful to you! Best of luck with the rest of middle school and high school!!

@jokuhfjih5835 4 года назад

You really did that. This video is so informative and you explain everything in such a clear way. 💕

@irisfu6929 4 года назад

Thanks for the feedback!!! 🌟

@affynti 4 года назад

This was such a helpful and informative video! Thank you Iris. I definitely think that this system serves these institutions effectively, and I'm glad that the lawsuit let us know about how they review applications.

@irisfu6929 4 года назад

Yeah, after all, the system is serving Harvard, not the people (contrary to what a lot of people might want to hear). It is cool that we now have a more transparent view of how the process works! Thanks for stopping by this video :)

@lolapiric1710 4 года назад

Hey, I love your channel. Quick question, do ivy leagues dislike pity. For example, if you include someone in your family having cancer in your recommendation or something like that, do they dislike you for trying to get pity? Thanks.

@irisfu6929 4 года назад

Yeah they probably will if you overtly include that for no reason. The “so what” is the reason you should be including information like that - what did you get out the experience, what values did you develop, how did you impact your community as a result of what happened to you?

@lolapiric1710 4 года назад

Iris Fu Thanks so much, I didn’t really want to include it to try and get pity but I see the concept thank you.

@nickjones8899 4 года назад

A rubric isn’t truly that objective, as long as there is a person determining admissions, a student will be subjectively rated and assessed. A rubric just turns a subjective description into a numerical value. I’d say the students that are the most left behind by this process are the ones who are already aware of reality and most affected by it, these students already know that they are not sought after or desired in these institutions so to ascribe admissions to these student’s reality check just comes off as ill-informed. Additionally, agreeing with this system simply because it embodies a similarly flawed society doesn’t mean we should keep it. You don’t need to agree with the system just because you can’t think of anything better.

@ellax325 2 года назад

She didn't say it makes it objective. She say it makes it more objective in terms of aligning the potential students with Harvard's values. It's impossible to create an objective system. At the very least Harvard attempts to use a holistic system with its applicants as opposed to a method such as a single test.

@arminislam6805 2 года назад

I think the personal category is to look through the applicant like what he/she is as an human - it seems more like a psychological game to me and ig the person reviewing the applications has to be really sharp to understand who is lying and who is being true about him/herself

@adrianadegbesan7780 4 года назад

Underrated Channel

@irisfu6929 4 года назад

Adrian Adegbesan AHAHHA pls share with friends who you think would enjoy this channel!

@lasdedd4871 2 года назад

What an excellent presentation. Great job!

@jenn4593 3 года назад

I think she meant >3 instead of .

@No-cs8wi 4 года назад

for the academics part, you said for getting a one you have to be super creative but how would you even do that for humanities? like writing a book?

@divyanshasen2034 3 года назад

You can do anything with humanities Make creative projects, do some different courses, drawings, a blog website etc...

@autumns908 4 года назад

harvard is my dream school, im half white and half asian so idk if my racial demographic would help me or harm me smh

@irisfu6929 4 года назад

ultimately, you can't change your race, so I'd focus on becoming and presenting the best version of yourself! cheesy lmao but hope this helps in some way!! good luck and i'm rooting for you

@ericlee650 3 года назад

Unfortunately these colleges are all racist, but it may be better to say you are white than asian, because they hate asians more

@skinach 3 года назад

@@ericlee650 I believe there's an option on the CommonApp to put down your race as "mixed" or "other." Also, I think it's a bit too harsh to say that they "hate" Asians, but I definitely do think that they mostly have higher expectations for Asian achievements, as well as lower expectations for the amount of "diversity" that Asians can add to their incoming class.

@ericlee650 3 года назад

@@skinach they hate us. If they didnt they wouldnt be openly racist🤷‍♂️

@yahirbrito7811 3 года назад

@@ericlee650 they don’t hate Asians a lot are just competitive. There are a lot of white people in Harvard if they wanted to divide diversity equally they could give some seats to other minorities

@menelikkkk 3 года назад

I’m sorry but I agree with everything you said but the end where you said the system should be kept, for one minority groups like mine are simply at a disadvantage where we grow up and what we experience can change so much, there is no way they should be spending 15 minutes on our application when getting into a university like this can change your whole life. It’s unacceptable things must change

@ellax325 2 года назад

How do you propose Harvard choose its applicants then?

@hasninemamud3222 4 года назад

plz make a vedio with common app.it's will be helpful for international.

@irisfu6929 4 года назад

What about the common app? I did one sharing common app responses from Stanford students, but let me know if there’s other stuff you want me to cover!

@oanochie 3 года назад

SO this means if I'm Asian, don't just depend on having perfect SAT and GPA scores, playing a musical instrument, and wanting to be a doctor, to get in. I get what you're saying...break apart from the mold and do something that you are truly passionate about and that would set you apart as a potential leader in a specific field or interest, IN ADDITION to having good stats. Otherwise, you can always go to any other top 20 school, but Harvard isn't for you. Harvard want potential future leaders who will continue to elevate the prestige of their institution and make it stand apart from every other university in the world. That's why Harvard has the largest number of Nobel Laureates in the world.

@roseanneqiu57 2 года назад

The way to stop the racial discrimination is to stop using race as a benchmark in any decision makings

@quintjohnson7462 9 месяцев назад

Really well said

@peacehope8972 4 года назад

wow this is weird to be the first one to comment ever. love ur videos! ☺️

@irisfu6929 4 года назад

Haha thanks for commenting and stay tuned for more :)

@weggiweggi5842 4 года назад

Miss iris in o level I have 7A* 2A and 1B In A level I have 4A* should I try to apply in top universities like harvard stanford etc

@irisfu6929 4 года назад

Still try! You always have a shot

@ramenyoun501 3 года назад

How did you manage to get 4A* omg

@Stephanie-ez6xl 4 года назад

Thank you so much! Even tho I’m only in 8th grade this is still very helpful because I like planning out everything😔

@harshasivakumar9340 4 года назад

Really helpful thx a lot

@irisfu6929 4 года назад

Glad to hear that!

@matthewwong1384 3 года назад

Thanks a lot for the video, one question though, for college applications do the letter of recommendations have to come from high school teachers, or can they be other teachers, for example, my 8th grade teacher? Thanks for answering if you do!

@bpxl53yewz29 2 года назад

Colleges will usually say right on their website that the recs should be from 11th or 12th gr teachers.

@olwethumngomezulu1488 3 года назад

Hi!Love your vids! Did you get in on scholarship but if you didn’t was it a lot of money to pay for your tuition?

@edwardb7811 2 года назад

Very helpful.

@mattscott7662 3 года назад

not sure why you mentioned diversity, as an army, gov, or business i always want the best people for the job

@cristinayang1572 2 года назад

I don't think the Harvard system should be completely abolished, but I think there is room for more standardization within the rating system

@elodiecasimir5670 4 года назад

How do you know all that?

@irisfu6929 4 года назад

I read the pdf document from the lawsuit linked in the description!

@elodiecasimir5670 4 года назад

Can you help me your my essays? Please

@hongyiwu6644 Год назад

hi Iris, I wonder if Harvard medical school admission use the same 6 category. Any idea if that is true?

@ronaldpingol7054 3 года назад

I’m an Asian too, but I think the system right now is unfair specifically the diversity part of it, basically the current system is simply students are competing with their co race, such as Asian vs Asian, Hispanic vs Hispanic. It could have been better if they will get rid of diversity system.

@yahirbrito7811 3 года назад

No diversity is important. Whites and Asians are more likely to attend great colleges so it’s harder for other groups. Especially those that are immigrants or coming from the hood. Being rich is an advantage

@bpxl53yewz29 2 года назад

@@yahirbrito7811 Who says all Asians are rich? That's the biggest misconception about Asians. There is such a wealth disparity among Asians. Colleges should seek more to achieve socioeconomic diversity, instead of focusing on the color of one's skin.

@badereric 2 года назад

@@bpxl53yewz29 dont bother arguing with stupid.

@ellax325 2 года назад

Do you actually think your chances of getting into Harvard would increase if they removed the diversity requirement? Like she said, people are likely to accept people from a similar background. Harvard is and has always had a majority white alumni and admissions staff. They will just hire more white people who A) have the wealth to pay for tutors and get good grades B) have a similar background to the admissions committee.

@A-M4 Год назад

@@bpxl53yewz29 low income sea benefit from affirmative action. They don't only take race into account!

@logan7083 3 года назад

can someone explain why theres such a strange obsession with whether or not the process is objective or subjective permeating this video.. like i dont quite get why should it matter if they objectively weight your sat, gpa, essay, "personal rating" etc if all of those subjects are built off subjective foundations anyway (i.e., your sat is subjective w.r.t. the reading passages arbitrarily chosen or the randomness of if some questions you guessed on were right or wrong etc, or gpa is subjective based on inevitable subjective grading in high school courses, the essay seems impossible to objectively grade regardless, ...). it sounds like theres a strange hidden premise in her implied syllogism throughout this video where subjectivity in reviewing an application is deemed tantamount to a kind of moral infraction

@mattscott7662 3 года назад

good video, hope all has gone well for you, hope they stop all is this diversity bs and let the best people in schools, the discrimination against Asians has got to stop

@paulrivera5231 2 года назад

Iris is the hottest woman on the internet. Am I allowed to say that ?? All kidding aside, you are VERY good looking and I love your spirit. I hope that you go far !!!

@David.124 Год назад

19:12

@salmamohamed2213 3 года назад

lol this makes me suuper nervous

@michelleder108 2 года назад

The key is your skin color and gender

@hwago123 2 года назад

She kinda cute.

@bpxl53yewz29 2 года назад

It's unfortunate that colleges like Harvard give such weight to recommendations, when larger public high school teachers and counselors have so many students they're handling and so the rec will be less personal, etc. My high school has over 600 seniors and only 5 or 6 counselors, leaving them each with 100 seniors to write recs for. Meanwhile, private school counselors have personal relationships with admissions officers/ directors at the top schools. You hear stories of how a simple phone call from a counselor got kids in.

@edwardb7811 2 года назад

Somebody told you life was fair?

@jy7213 2 года назад

Public high school teachers have many students but they still know who their #1 student is that year. Generally you have to be THE best student in the class that year to get into Harvard unless you are coming from a super competitive feeder school. I don't think a phone call from a counselor can get a student in because Harvard knows that counselors at public high schools don't know their students well. It might be a different story if it's someone who's been the head counselor at a top school like the Philips Andover Academy for 25 years and has sent dozens of students.

@jy7213 2 года назад

@Young Young Not at all. The #1 student is not the one who has the highest GPA and test scores. Especially in math and science, it is very obvious who the #1 student is. They often have very high GPAs and scores but are not necessarily the valedictorians or have perfect SATs. The valedictorian and salutatorian went to Penn at my high school but the smartest student went to Harvard.

@jy7213 2 года назад

@Young Young You seem to be saying that the main difference between your kid and the others with higher GPAs and scores who got rejected from Stanford is that your kid schmoozed with his teachers better. I much doubt that was the decisive factor. There must have been some other factors that made your kid stand out such as an unusual talent or exceptional circumstances that he had to overcome. Teachers can certainly highlight such circumstances and talents in their recommendations but they can not make them up out of the blue just because a kid makes extra effort to be close to them.

@jy7213 2 года назад

@Young Young You are completely mistaken when you say you have to go by the grades and scores to determine the true number 1 student. The SAT is a ridiculously easy test that doesn't differentiate the merely intelligent from the brilliant. High school GPAs average all kinds of subjects, some of which are very stupid and almost all of which are not demanding. So someone has a 1500 SAT and 3.8 GPA could very well be 100 times smarter than someone who has a 1580 SAT and 4.0 GPA. At the higher end of the scale, there are other, more valid measures of intellectual ability such as creative work, success in national or international competitions, verbal skills, fund of knowledge, research activity, etc.

@nellieeess 4 года назад

I just wanted to let you know that what you do is really valued. You are helping hundreds of students out there, including me. Super interesting video by the way, I watched the whole thing and did not skip ads :)

@irisfu6929 4 года назад

Thanks for this message :) really appreciate your support 💕💕💕

@Emily-kw8vn 2 года назад

BINGO. People expect college admissions to be a completely meritocratic process with absolute precision where in reality, it's really much more like looking for a job. It absolutely needs to be said that you can get a good education at many many places. Applying to a top selective private institution is much more like trying to get into top selective employer post college, subjectivity is always going to be there and it's going to need to be a two way fit between demand and supply.

@arminislam6805 2 года назад

I read on quora that a girl didn't have much good grades and still made it into harvard just by spending 4-5 months in writing essays...so ig essays are really very important especially the one where u describe ur personality- it's gonna play a huge role into getting enrolled into harvard- some other youtubers also have said this-

@lilmeembot8958 4 года назад

I was searching for a vid like this for so long. Thanks for makin one✨❤️

@irisfu6929 4 года назад

My pleasure! ❤️🌟

@ahmadkanafani9888 3 года назад

Absolutely in awe with your channel, love it, keep doing you! Quick question, do you think being multilingual (I speak 4 languages) is going to help a lot in my application and make me stand out or is it not that big of a factor?

@JustAnotherLokiStan 3 года назад

A large percentage of applicants (especially Asians) are multilingual. That doesn't really set you apart from others. If you are going for a linguistics major, then it gives you an advantage over other linguistics major applicants, but if you're applying for something unrelated, it won't help. However, if you're using your proficiency in different languages to do something unique (eg. do a job as a translator or help teach languages or even do something related to intercommunity communication) then that can be a plus point if you can bring out your talent in your essay. Just knowing a bunch of languages won't help. I speak five languages and am proficient in a number of Scandinavian scripts/dialects/dead languages but I'm not a linguistics major, and yet I'm gonna mention this in my application because I'm interested in Norse culture and mythology and my interest in Icelandic languages does help- but mostly I'm going to talk about how the languages I speak have impacted my life and my idea of the contemporary world. At the end of the day it's all about how you tie in your interests and skills with the major you choose.

@asiaxo8018 4 года назад

I’m a 7th grader soon to be 8th grader and I’ve been watching a lot of these videos so when I get to high school I’ll know what path to be on. I don’t go to the best schools and the teachers here aren’t that good so I’m scared I’m not gonna get the education I need. I got 243 on my map reading test last fall. I’m not good at math at all. So I fear this will not get me into any ivy league colleges when I get older.

@irisfu6929 4 года назад

Just keep doing your best, going above and beyond, outperforming expectations, and you will be just fine 👏👏 I didn’t come from a great high school either, but just try your very best in everything you do!!

@Hanking-Yo-Schrader 4 года назад

Hey Iris! Very great video indeed! The best out there, I would say. Can you explain which method Harvard uses to convert grades from various international systems to GPA? And what GPA student gets a score of 1 in academics? (I am from India). An answer would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

@lexieben-meir4761 4 года назад

hi iris! thank you for another amazing video. super informative. i have a question relating to your own application process... i am interested in applying to yale and duke (which i know, based on your videos, you were denied admission and placed on the waitlist respectively) and i was wondering if you could shed some light on why YOU thought the results turned out the way they did... do you think it was what these respective institutions were looking for this year or perhaps your application, etc.? your stanford application was inspiring by the way!! quite obviously you are a STELLAR student and person so i guess i just wanted to see what your take on the results were. if you believe it was your application for whatever reason (like you spent less time on it, etc), maybe it would be helpful to provide a comparison between your stanford and yale apps? i totally understand if you do not have an answer and realize this is personal! thank you again for your content :)

@irisfu6929 4 года назад

Sooo many factors are out of the applicant’s control. For Yale, someone else with legacy at my school got in. Schools try to diversify their geographic representation, so they’ll take at most one person from a small high school like mine. As for duke, I started the application the day it was due lol so it was probably just a bad application.

@irisfu6929 4 года назад

comparing applications sounds like an interesting video idea - I’ll definitely consider. Good luck with your applications!! You got this 💪💪

@lizaestaquasela 2 года назад

If you think that the college admission process in the US is unfair, wait until you see how it is in Brazil. We take a kind of SAT, but it is more difficult because it includes geography, science, history, physics, math and Portuguese. And that's it. If you have studied enough, welcome to our university! If you don't, try again next year. We only have standardized tests to see if we deserve to go to university or not. SO UNFAIR. that's why i won't go here.

@manjooku 3 года назад

this is very helpful and insightful, thank you so much! I'm an international rising junior from Asia and honestly? I'm confused and a lot worried abt US uni applications. but this video helped clear out my worries and questions!

@melisaylmaz2992 3 года назад

I have a question for you all. She made a great point about the selection systems unfairness but according to harvards website students who not able to take tests (sat, act)are not disadvange if they can explein their reasons(such as money problems, health issues). As an international student(if i can come US) and a person with economical problems should I or people like me who have been reading this comment risk our application by submitting it without SAT(of course with english test)?

@bpxl53yewz29 2 года назад

No, it's different for international. Without the SAT chances will be low for international.

@chrislieu6757 2 года назад

@@bpxl53yewz29 Without SATs chances are low for everyone. The admission rates for applicants without SATs is very very very low.

@Zeenia 4 года назад

Do you think music awards and recognition (national & international) count in the extracurricular category or academic category? For example, do you think your solo in Carnegie Hall would be something that could distinguish you in the academic category? I'm trying to figure out what would count towards each category because some things aren't clearly on one side such as music, business, public speaking, etc.

@irisfu6929 4 года назад

I don’t think music and stuff is really academic, unless you do academic work on music (eg research on a musical era or something). I think the creative factor to academics means original scholarship

@irisfu6929 4 года назад

Basically, think of academic as academia-everything that has to do with advancing human knowledge

@Zeenia 4 года назад

Okay that makes a lot of sense, thank you! Also about the extracurricular rating, the description involving the evident display of "unusual strength in one or more areas" seems quite focused on using competitions and other award-based activities to showcase the strengths. Do you think what you call "passion projects" such as starting an internationally-impacting nonprofit or creating a successful app have an upper hand at getting the 1 rating? They're a much larger time and effort commitment but are they larger contributors to the application?

@irisfu6929 4 года назад

In this case, you can show accomplishment through numbers of people impacted and scope (numbers of countries involved).

@S0FIAV 3 года назад

From peru, i trully enjoyed your video. I really thought I was like 100 years behind privilege students in America :)

@Jayyk09 4 года назад

I can get a research opportunity in Renewable Energy +for that I would have some knowledge which I can gain by MOOC) but I want to major in CS? If I do that, will it help me getting in Universities?

@irisfu6929 4 года назад

It could definitely! But only do it if you're truly interested in the internship opportunity. After all, I think how you write about your experiences matter more than what your experiences are

@Jayyk09 4 года назад

@@irisfu6929 yes I'm..I've started the MOOC on how to write research paper n renewable energy. Thanks for advice 😊

@Nanami_X_Higurama 4 года назад

You're like one of my most favourite content creator on RU-vid , please don't leave RU-vid so soon ,🥺 Thanks for all the amazing videos 👍🤟

@christianfreya3801 4 года назад

Hello, so for full disclosure, I am a URM at an "HYP" institution (serving solely for context as to what follows), and I sincerely wish, to give resourceful breathe to this particular issue. I suspect that what may be effectively needed is a shift in the thinking of admission processes' at T-10 institutions. The shift encapsulating a mode of thinking describing admissions as a form of moralistic discrimination, rather than what it just is - discrimination (no negative connotation). Iris is absolutely correct, though, I'll be a tad-bit more brazen. Admission committees are in the business of discrimination. Selectivity begets those who are conferred access and those who are not and if the declared purpose of these committees is (to in fact) curate a diverse student class than it stands to reason that quantitative metrics explicitly are insufficient in crafting such a holistic class. A little demography demonstrates that Asian applicants are disproportionately represented in the applicant pool relative to their census in the US population (that is not a bad thing!). Compounded by the reality that many (not all) of these applicants are equipped with quantitative metrics that exceed the institution's benchmarks coupled with cultural demands and/or conventional perceptions of success (from their parents) Asian applicants often have a difficult time differentiating themselves in the applicant pool. As an adcom officer vested with the raison d'etre of instantiated a wholly diverse (all kinds of diversity) class this abundance of resoundingly qualified Asian applicants is overwhelming - you simply cannot accept them all. As a side, around the 90th percentile on the SAT/ACT acts as a barometer for future cum laude status at HYP which means it is well within your capacity to excel at HYP's curriculum if you possess such benchmarks*** If I were applying again to college as an Asian applicant; I would be steadfastly realistic and take into consideration how my "spike" potentially differentiates myself from the pool (all racial groups should do this regardless btw). If my interest is traditionally associated with "asian-ness", let's say, Math, I would deliberately but authentically serve to establish intersectionality with something as disparate and unconventional as possible, let's say ethnic European dance.

@irisfu6929 4 года назад

Hi Christian, Thank you for this detailed response. I think what you mentioned - that discrimination isn’t inherently bad - is super interesting, true, yet not recognized widely by society. Inherently by picking and choosing, we are performing the act of discrimination. Too often, we pick and choose for the purpose to disadvantage one in the process and give unfair advantage to the other (slavery, etc). I don’t think this is always the case, however, and in the example of college admissions, I believe the turned down applicants are still going to make meaningful contributions with their lives, as the school is more a TOOL for success than a METRIC for success. So many other tools are out there ready to be deployed. Anyway, I just hope more people can read your message and my follow up thoughts on yours - if you want to stay connected/chat more, feel free to IG DM me at iriss.fu. Stay safe xx

@saarthshah 4 года назад

Man I am in the 99th Percentile (1470) will I clear the threshold?

@irisfu6929 4 года назад

Heross oooof tough call. I’ve heard it’s like 1500 - but that’s all unverified

@abdullahjaber4321 4 года назад

I almost had a stroke reading your explanation... but I think I get the point, good job. I agree.

@aidasall4815 4 года назад

Heross - Yes! The 25th percentile for Harvard is a 1460, so you are all good!

@celaine_ 3 года назад

Hi iris! I was wondering if coding an app would qualify as an academic achievement or an extracurricular. Also, can achievements from athletics be double dipped in the extracurriculares category?

@hitshot 2 года назад

@ArtIsDrawing 2 года назад

well DUHH!!!!

@zuk2166 3 года назад

Thank you so much for this video! I was wondering if it was still possible to get in if my achievements aren’t on a national level but more about helping those in my community? Thank you again for this helpful video, stay safe!

@Comrade_Zaz 3 года назад

Admission being Unfair doesn't mean they can to be unfair because "life is unfair" Just look at countries like Germany where they have a far more fair system

@tracyw7007 4 года назад

Omg this vid literally helped so much! Thanks for making this!

@irisfu6929 4 года назад

Ofc! Glad u found it helpful :)

@royalflutes 2 года назад

Hello, I was wondering if someone applied without sat scores but has a 4.0 gpa great course rigor, what academic rating do you think the applicant would receive? Or would they not receive one? Thanks.

@prathamhombal3596 4 года назад

I love your channel and I had a quick question. Where do you think passion projects stand on the extracurricular scale?

@irisfu6929 4 года назад

First, it highly depends on what passion project you end up doing, because there're so many options under the passion project category. Otherwise, on average, I'd say passion projects are the best type of extracurriculars you can do because it 1) shows leadership 2) shows creativity 3) shows initiative (the sense of changemaking) 4) shows that you care about your community and 5) shows that you impacted your community

@jameson4548 4 года назад

Gurlie how only 1.6K views?????

@irisfu6929 4 года назад

Jameson Sewell idk 🥺😭 would appreciate if you could share on your socials

@brandensattler2544 4 года назад

Will publishing a book get you a one?

@irisfu6929 4 года назад

Hmm I’m not sure. Maybe if it’s a really original book on cutting edge academia. I’m pretty sure my book didn’t get me a one 😂

@bardiasafari 4 года назад

For the academic unusual factor, do you need to be doing things that are strictly academic that are unusual? Or can a research project or working with a professor on a project count?

@irisfu6929 4 года назад

Research counts as academic!

@irisfu6929 4 года назад

@@andrewli4484 No it doesn't have to be! It is more impressive it is published in a well-known journal tho

@hitshot 2 года назад

@@irisfu6929 can the teacher recommendation letters come from professors that you’ve worked with on advanced research? They have a much better idea of my abilities and accomplishments than any of my high school teachers, and my counsellor doesn’t even respond to emails. (I am an international applicant, and the professors work at one of the highest ranked universities in the world)

@kaihavertzlover29 Год назад

@@hitshot how’d it go

@castleofcostamesa8291 4 года назад

Thank you very much for your thoughtful and valuable video!

@irisfu6929 4 года назад

You’re welcome!

@pilizapata9263 4 года назад

Hi, how much is a 33 ACT in an SAT score?

@irisfu6929 4 года назад

Around 1500 ish -- but every website on google seems to give a diff exact number haha

@unitedwedance4808 4 года назад

Hello, I love your videos! I have a question, for your book that you wrote, did that count as the academic category?

@antunbajric6576 3 года назад

so poor asian kid cant get in becose he is asian and thats ok in europe we call it racism

@anastasiyadenisenko8782 4 года назад

Hey, I love your videos and your channel. I wanted to ask a quick questions about passion projects, I am creating a pen pal program between high school students and senior citizens, would that be counted as a passion project? Thanks so much.

@irisfu6929 4 года назад

Anastasiya Denysenko yes it would, since you’re leading the project and creating something new. Also uploading a video on my video pal program this Wednesday so keep an eye out for that 👀 hopefully it could bring some relevant insight to what you’re doing. Good luck!! 👍

@anastasiyadenisenko8782 4 года назад

@@irisfu6929 Thank you so much!! Can't wait.

@wishIKnewHowToLove Год назад

Iris, dear! thank you for yo videos. They r very informative. But please speake slower.

@anonymousperson4784 2 года назад

Hey as a student who did everything they could academically and extracurricular wise in being able to get accepted into Stanford and I feel my application went hard in the beginning but I am the worst at storytelling ever since I was younger I sucked at grammar and writing PERIODT so my application flopped after the common app personal essay my theme was incoherant at the time I thought it was fine but now looking back I definitely recognize my errors what would you recommend I do as I plan to apply as a transfer after a year or two of attending NYU

@aryanmahto2016 4 года назад

What would they do if i mention domestic violance, medical problems and bullying(reasons for low grades) in my personal statement?. not that i am gonna do but just asking

@irisfu6929 4 года назад

It all depends on how you frame this. Put it in a positive light (e.g. this is what happened but this is how I grew from the experience) could boost your application. Put it in a cyclical and helpless manner and it could hurt your application.

@shivanjalimishra8434 2 года назад

That was so helpful! Thanks a ton, Iris! ❤️

@astrolance1 Месяц назад

Bro i can NOT thank you enough for this like THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU

@phantomGhost3 4 года назад

I love u for this.💚

@streamzxx 3 года назад

Can you please share where you found the released court documents explaining Harvard admission process？

@faustinamboko2825 4 года назад

You have no idea how much you have helped me 👏👏.... Thank you so muuch 🤗🤗🤗🤗

@irisfu6929 4 года назад

Happy to help!

@weraniemczyk4364 3 года назад

Amaizing video jeeeez thank you sooo much!!! 💓💓💓

@mir7956 4 года назад

I LOVE THIS VIDEO omg

@irisfu6929 4 года назад

It was so fun to make!!

@LoveAlways333 10 месяцев назад

Sounds like the litmus test of a lifetime... LOL

@edenmichaelhazard4009 2 года назад

What is a near perfect score +1530?

@breanakodua3277 4 года назад

what was your college essay about?

@irisfu6929 4 года назад

I posted my college essays on this channel!

@ariesmp 3 года назад

If you haven't discovered the wheel by 15, your chances of being admitted are extremely low.

@noneedmarklee 4 года назад

this was super helpful, thanks !!!!

@irisfu6929 4 года назад

glad you found it helpful!!

@johnliu977 4 года назад

Such a helpful video!

@irisfu6929 4 года назад

Glad you think so!

@stanzavik 2 года назад

I'm in love

@khadifaha.q.3185 4 года назад

Hi! I lovee your channel I'm glad RU-vid recommend me your channel. I have a question, I study in small public school hence, they doesn't offer AP classes and lack of extracurriculars (less than 10 extracurriculars). I'm planning to make an English club and take an AP classes. I have an above average grades but not highest in my first year HS (In US system I would be in sophomore year) would I still have a goodshot? Thank you in advance! 🤗

@irisfu6929 4 года назад

Welcome to the channel! I think you def have a good shot. I came from a similar school background. I’d recommend self studying or basically going beyond what your environment offers to show initiative

@khadifaha.q.3185 4 года назад

@@irisfu6929 thank you so much for the advice! Will do 😄

@carolinexoxo1403 4 года назад

Hi! I was wondering if u had any resources on research competitions for humanities/ social sciences?

@irisfu6929 4 года назад

Hey Caroline! Unfortunately I don’t and can only refer you to google :/ I did try googling some stuff (telluride summer program is super prestigious) but didn’t end up doing anything research related in that realm

@belindalopez6398 2 года назад

ok so I HAVE A BIG PROBLEM with the letters of recommendation part. the thing is that my high school organize classes differently because first they are divided in semesters and not like in actuals years. and my school is humongous last semester I was in group 507 sooo yeah, big school. So equivalently there are a lot of professors, and the interesting part is that you most likely won't get the same professor ever again so you would only have that professor for one semester and that is it; because mostly the ones that do 1st semester are not assigned to teach 6th semester. And is the same story with councilors. So idk how I'm going to do the part of letters of recommendations and I'm not freaking out because I still have time but yeah how am I going to do it? I don't have the slightest idea.

@vivian-xr3kv 3 года назад

iris thank you for this!!

@kongshantai 4 года назад

why did you apply to so many schools as a junior? Were you planning on skipping your senior year if you got accepted?

@irisfu6929 4 года назад

Lol yeah haha

@johntacapan9374 2 года назад

College Admission Procedures are overrated. I'm not cynical about the ultimate goals of education, but higher education institutions (together with multi-billion corporations and legacy/mainstream media) prostituting themselves as purveyors of education for economic reasons made college education a holy grail for aspiring seniors in high schools and their parents. While not everybody can get into Harvard, not everyone who got out of Harvard made this world a better place. Implications? It's not the song that matters but the singer. Living in the church doesn't make one an angel and living in the garage doesn't make you a car. Why do Asians complain about Harvard's admission process? Pressure from parents? Then, tell your parents to stop making you as extensions of their unfulfilled dreams! Harvard is a private institution so it can do whatever it wants under its guiding philosophy and within the legal framework. You don't like its procedures? Then, establish your own university and set your own admission procedures! Do you want to change society and the world? Then start changing your myopic impression about Harvard. Lastly, our thoughts have consequences. If you think that you can be a better person who is capable of making authentic positive social changes, regardless of which college you attend, you can be the best version of yourself.

@mir7956 4 года назад

Thank you💕

@irisfu6929 4 года назад

Yep 😊

@sarahconnell6332 Год назад

Yup. As an older adult life is full of unfairness. It is dominated by personalities and social interactions. It sucks, but it is what it is. At least there is some written framework for assessing candidates. You’ll find that job interviews, promotions, etc lack this.