What the heck happened to the RV industry?

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It seems ALL new RVs are junk. How do you find a good one?
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@LizAmazing 4 месяца назад

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@TimothyMichaels 4 месяца назад

Another great video Liz, thank you.

@dad45a 4 месяца назад

With the increase in mergers and consolidations, in the last few years....corners and more had to be cut. Just service the $$$ spent to buy these other companies. There are only a few parent companies making RVs today, and the investor class gets paid first !

@huntsimple9527 4 месяца назад

Thankful you are taking a stand and hoping you stick with it. Your channel can influence these manufacturers!

@desertlandscapecreations577 4 месяца назад

The problem with buying an older RV is that many RV parks won't let older models in.

@dad45a 4 месяца назад

@@desertlandscapecreations577 What issues are leading RV parks to refuse entry? Perhaps a definition of what 'older' means. Liz seemed to be describing the recent differences from 2018 until present day models. Do parks have distinct time limit of how old a unit can be allowed to enter?

@alejofox10 3 месяца назад

I don’t know why I click on this vid but this lady give more useful information in 5 minutes that all the youtubers I seen all day… an am not even in the market for an RV😂

@LizAmazing 3 месяца назад

Aww, thanks for your kind words, made my day!

@goofyfoot2001 2 месяца назад

Parking for the night is as much or more than a good hotel in the good places so no real advantage to RVs

@butchmalone231 2 месяца назад

I always heard RVs were sketchy at best but after listening to this young lady, I got more information on an RV and I’m not even looking for an RV😂

@austinward1543 2 месяца назад

@@LizAmazing THE RV INDUSTRY IS IN DEEP TROUBLE ALSO BECAUSE THEIR RVS ARE TO EXPENSIVE EVEN THOUGH THE RVS OF TODAY ARE GARBAGE

@andreagnauck4982 Месяц назад

same!

@bwalker4194 4 месяца назад

The same thing that has happened to every other manual-labor-intensive industry since Covid: the very skilled, usually older workforce got fed up and left. The remaining management team quickly hired non-skilled labor to replace them and started cutting manufacturing corners to retain profitability. Those two things usually signal the death knell to every industry they touch.

@rondav41 4 месяца назад

you would never buy an rv if you knew the people who built them

@cjhoward409 3 месяца назад

@@rondav41 No doubt !

@adotintheshark4848 3 месяца назад

they hired anyone who would actually show up a couple days a week. Most people don't want to work.

@jamesbailey9512 3 месяца назад

@@adotintheshark4848 Correction most people don't want to work for the compensation package being offered. I like the company I work for, I like the team and I like and respect my manager and director. Most importantly the company pays me a good wage for my skills and time. At the end of the day however, it is a business transaction and I treat it as such. You owe the company you work for nothing, they owe you, usually monthly in arrears.

@DaveBassTrekker 3 месяца назад

I've lived in Elkhart county, Indiana for nearly 40 years. RVs may have been a better level of crap 20 years ago but they were still crap. Say what you want about workers but the problem STARTS with ownership. 2nd and 3rd generations of families are only interested in profits and the family owned manufacturers that sold to corporations are worse. It's all for profit and they don't give a hang about quality. And that's before COVID. I know lots of people who have been in and out of the RV industry and now is not the time to buy a new one, no matter the price. Fix the one you have.

@kevinbaldwinemploymenttria7903 Месяц назад

My soon to be wife and I went to an RV show in January and we’re getting ready to spend $100k on a brand new Class C RV. This CHANGED EVERYTHING! I am now the proud owner of a well built well maintained low mile class C Dutchmen for less than $15k and with our interior remodel and upgrades which will include a solar package we will have everything for less than $20k but BETTER built! THANK YOU!!!!

@Bemaseated 28 дней назад

I’m following suit friend! Solar is important as well

@okthennone 4 часа назад

Good choice

@JohnnyinMN 2 месяца назад

This lady provides more information in 15 minutes than my MBA professors did in 2 years. Wow, and I am not even a RV person.

@richardhenry5961 4 месяца назад

LOL! You Nailed it! This is why I'm building a mini travel camper my self. This is also why I'm hanging onto my 1999 F150 with over 222,000 miles on it. Today's pick-up-trucks are over priced JUNK.

@keithspernak6456 4 месяца назад

And you can do a lot of basic repairs on your '99 F-150 and save lots of $$$.

@LizAmazing 4 месяца назад

That's the way! Thanks for watching, Richard.

@muffs55mercury61 4 месяца назад

Old trucks rock. And they can last indefinitely. I'm proud of my '76 F250.

@cjhoward409 3 месяца назад

Even appliances are junk. What parts used to be made from metal are now all plastic and that’s why things don’t last

@TheShadowCamo 3 месяца назад

A lot of Professional drivers out there buying up Pre - DEF motors for their 18 wheelers! They don't want to give up their trucks!

@pamelag7553 4 месяца назад

You might also ask what happened to the refrigerator industry? The refrigerators nowadays are total junk and you are lucky to get 8 to 10 years out of them. I think the standard is five to eight. What is going on? When I raised my kids we had the same refrigerator for 15 years and it was still working fine when we left that house. Growing up we had the same one for over 20 years. Industry in America has sold us down the river and the government has zero objections. This is seriously messed up.

@Powerstroke98 Месяц назад

Well said, we're going through the same issues, albeit so far, RU-vid has let me do 'fix-it's to both our fridge and dishwasher, so I can at least cobble them up with new parts still, but with everything being plastic, I guess they are going to only last a select amount of time unfortunate, to force us to buy another new one. Or, as I do, fix it myself after watching a RU-vid video on the issue.

@timothyk8788 Месяц назад

Planned obsolescence

@kenmetsala39 Месяц назад

Our refigerator a Suburban couldn't stay below 45 F during the day. Total garbage.

@plowe7981 23 дня назад

Last year my parents’ refrigerator finally died. My mother was mad because she only had it for 49 years. She was hoping to get 50 years out of it.

@jrc8466 20 дней назад

Most refrigerator compressors have the dreaded MIC Syndrome - Made In China.

@BrentLackner-iu4vn 3 месяца назад

Certified mechanic/welder here, last yr me and my gal crawled around under some units at a camper dealership. 5 minutes in I informed her we will not be buying new. I built a better trailer frame for my canoe hauling trailer behind our wheelers!

@LizAmazing 3 месяца назад

Wow, thanks for sharing this!!!

@98sigsbee 4 месяца назад

I built them in the late 70’s around Elkhart IN, most were made around that location as well as all of the materials needed. We had pride in what we were building and the money was great for back then. My last camper trailer was an 1988, built when they were still built right.

@LizAmazing 4 месяца назад

Yes! That was a good year for campers! Thanks for your comment!

@usaman7358 3 месяца назад

Proud owner of a 1987 Prowler 18' travel trailer. I've had it twenty years now and only replaced the water pump (easily accesible). Nothing else, not even leaks! And I've done NOTHING to the roof. I live in hot AZ and granted I only use it about 5 times a year but I've literally done nothing to it but enjoy the heck out of it. Alot of fun for just $2,600 (which I could get tomorrow for it). Basically, 20 years of free camping.

@Timbrock1000 4 месяца назад

I bought a 1994 camping trailer a few years ago. Only cost me $2600. It was in fair condition. Mainly needed a fresh 2020's paint job, and a few other things. I got rid of the old 9" TV , then installed LED lights to replace the old ones. The quality, durability, integrity, and feel of it (after modernizing) is uncanny. SOOO much superior than comparable sized trailers made today. NO WAY would I buy anything made today with their cheap materials, flimsy doors, weak roofs, and unreliable electronics (really, who needs Bluetooth in a trailer?!). I'm sure when brand new campers made today are in the junkyard, mine will still be ready for a weekend!

@muffs55mercury61 4 месяца назад

Yep I'm sure the junkyards are full of them.

@photografiq_presents 3 месяца назад

@timbrock1000 Are you sure its uncanny? A strange or mysterious, especially in an unsettling way. Or are you just using words that you don't know how to use?

@garybelew7813 2 месяца назад

Bluetooth is very convenient, and most modern electronics use bluetooth for connectivity as opposed to cabling. I am almost 65 and love the ease of bluetooth to be able to connect to an external device to listen to music or play videos from a phone or tablet instead of hauling DVDs or CDs like we used to have to do.. As for your 1994 trailer, many RV parks won't allow it to be parked there. If you don't mind that limitation, that's great.

@theresajoyce7589 4 месяца назад

This was an excellent report, Liz! I’m so glad you’re not afraid to name names! Well done! 👏👏👏🍀🙋🏻‍♀️

@LizAmazing 4 месяца назад

Thanks Theresa, I sure appreciate your support. Enjoy your weekend.

@AdventuresAllowed 4 месяца назад

It’s strange that it’s a totally unregulated industry totally driven by greed and capitalism, yet impacts highway safety.

@susanawright7757 4 месяца назад

Yes, thank you for that, being brave!

@freedomisnotnegotiable 4 месяца назад

Has nothing to do with the RV industry the problem is if it’s made in the USA, it’s expensive junk. If you want junk then spend little money on Chinese made stuff. If you want quality spend the money you would spend on Made In the USA product on a made in China product and you will see highest quality. Manufacturing in this country is done because there is no workforce left, I work in manufacturing and I came here from overseas (Germany) the best manufacturing equipment these days is delivered to China! US build cars like Ford have one recall after another, Boeing airplane loose doors while flying ,RVs fall apart and about the defense industry junk we don’t have to talk…

@jab376 4 месяца назад

@@freedomisnotnegotiablesorry 98% of stuff we use todat are chinese made. Doubt me? Check products in your home and notice what am talking about.

@jayswint9608 3 месяца назад

YOU GO GIRL! Thank you for your willingness to confront the RV manufacturers. Without “tell it the way it is”, nothing will ever change. You are my hero!

@chrisbriggs1848 3 месяца назад

I’m not even an RV owner … yet, but I thoroughly enjoy watching Liz’s videos. Your level of knowledge and forthrightness are refreshing.

@jeepster0934 4 месяца назад

I used to work in the service department in a large RV dealer and you are 100 % correct. Total junk being built and the manufacturers don't stand behind their product. In my state the consumer has no protections either.....LEMON LAWS do not apply because they are a RECREATIONAL VEHICLE and not a motor vehicle. Consumer is on their own. I saw staples put right into water pipes etc. On a positive note Winnebago seemed to be only manufacturer that cared and stood behind their product....the rest NOT SO MUCH. I got out of industry because customers were always mad at us because of the junk built and we took all the heat. I used to get customers tell me that they were going to stop making payments because it was such a lemon.....sad thing is this only hurt them and banks went after them; no impact on industry.

@LizAmazing 4 месяца назад

Thanks for sharing this. I hope by holding their feet to the fire that the RV industry will start to do better. At this rate they won't stay in business unless they shape up.

@esterdrass4964 4 месяца назад

I was at an RV show, I think it was 2021..or maybe even early 2022...so the pandemic was sort of over. The show was mass packed and all I saw were 'sold' stickers on the units on display. They were offering 7% interest if you buy it NOW. I wanted to check out to see what was out there but so many of what they had were sold and all I thought was, did people just say 'yes' and that's it. Apparently, that is what happened. In past, people would take a minute to think about it but that day I went, it was like, you have to buy it now or the person behind you will. It was like a fire sale for RV's, this is your last chance to get this...get it now or you will never be able to buy one. I had a clue that there was something up because the pandemic shut everything down and now all of a sudden, all these rv's are popping up. Either they were hiding somewhere or these rv's were made super-fast. No time to think or inspect, just glue it together and roll it out.

@grumpyolddude439 4 месяца назад

Lemon Law not applying, is a Federal thing. Makes no difference what state you are in. You are however correct that Lemon Law applies to motor vehicles (for transportation), and not for recreation.

@rathelmmc3194 4 месяца назад

Is the industry in decline? Seems counterproductive to be that short term in thinking as the manufacturer.

@elpepito276 4 месяца назад

I am looking to get a C class 32 ft any recommendation for a solid build used?

@stevegordon5243 4 месяца назад

In 2016, my wife and I purchased a 2001 Winnebago Minnie 31C class C motorhome. It is in great shape and we have had absolutely no issues with anything other than the fuel pump had to be replaced. It has been solid and no leaks anywhere. We plan to keep it as long as possible

@LizAmazing 4 месяца назад

Yes indeed, hang on to that Minnie! Thanks for your comment!

@stevenburmeister1484 2 месяца назад

I have a 96 Winnebago Itasca class C. 65000 miles. No major problems. Ford E-350 chassis.

@richj011 22 дня назад

She's had 9 RVs? And she didn't know that new RVs are junk with all her knowledge and experience.

@browntree1948 3 месяца назад

I ordered a new 2006 38' Winnebago in the fall of 2005 and lived in it for 11 years travelling for half the year and working as an electronic circuit-board designer for the other half. It was an interesting life and I had very few problems with the RV. Several years later I was talking to a fellow at an RV park who had purchased a 45' 2015 diesel Winnebago and had spent the previous six months in and out of the manufacturer's facility to address one problem after another. As he explained it, the older workers from the baby boomer generation had mostly retired and taken their expertise with them. He said that 2008 was the last good year for quality in most RVs in the industry. Though the younger guys were more computer savvy, they didn't have the problem-solving skills and work ethic of the children of the Greatest Generation.

@stanleykachuik2589 19 дней назад

I agree. I've had 2 RVs. Both were 2008 builds. Found nothing but garbage after that.

@margaretsargent6930 4 месяца назад

I bought a 2015 keystone alpine 5th wheel in 2020 and purchased an extended warranty for 5 yrs, which I live in full time...no road travel 4 yrs. later no major repairs...getting ready to reseal the roof and replace the fabric that covers the slideouts... I was fortunate that a friend of mine was an RV salesman and was given info on exactly what you said...buy newer used!! I'm happy I did...thanks for your video

@rlmiller007 4 месяца назад

I used to build yachts. It's the same progression. Fine wood and screws would change to cheaper screws and veneer. The craftmenship on the first few would be amazing.

@LizAmazing 4 месяца назад

Sad to hear this. Thanks for sharing.

@bentleymalshi7953 4 месяца назад

Good enough reasons not to buy boats and RVs. Tent and vehicle camping seem to be better alternatives these days.

@MotocrossGuru-zf8pk 4 месяца назад

too many campers with leaking roofs my god

@savannahsmiles1797 4 месяца назад

SAME with parade of homes...the price tags went sky high but the interiors were not upgraded at all. For that much cash why would I want an inferior tract home design & materials.

@bentleymalshi7953 4 месяца назад

@@savannahsmiles1797 At least with homes, regardless of how they were built, command a much higher price tag (depending o the market) and manage to retain it value (with upgrades and maintenance) for the next buyer. We cannot say the same for boats and RVs. It is totally up to the next buyer on how aesthetically they want to value those things (boats and RVs), and what they are willing to pay for them.

@cindyball7545 4 месяца назад

After watching your video and reading on different FB pages for RVs, we are so thankful for the fact that when we bought our Dutch Star last June a 2016 was the most we could afford. We ended up with a 2015 which we love and haven't had any problems except for replacing some parts for the jacks.

@LizAmazing 4 месяца назад

Yay! Thanks for this Cindy, and for watching. Enjoy that Dutch Star!

@davidwell686 4 месяца назад

I rented a Yukon for a month, with my GF, split the costs, tossed in a camping tent, stove etc..traveled all over the USA for a month and loved it. Turned it back in and walked away from any maintenance problems. We stayed in some motels/hotels when we got tired of camping and went into the wilderness too. It's a better way to travel. Love the USA for it's beauty, ease of travel and loved that Yukon.

@user-ru7qe8qq2v 3 месяца назад

Not a camper here with a question...what is a Yukon?

@lillexus5589 Месяц назад

@@user-ru7qe8qq2va RV conversion or similar on the basis of a GMC Yukon I imagine.

@alextrainor2552 19 дней назад

GMC Yukon

@danieljtexzocotitlasilva1951 2 месяца назад

A few years ago I almost bought a brand new 2022 Travel Trailer but for some reason I end up buying a 2013 Travel Trailer after watching this video I'm glad I got an older RV and I love it.

@carlbeaver7112 4 месяца назад

Add Holiday Rambler to your list and you're pretty much right on the nose. I bought an '04 because of their quality - solid wood, all metal roof, interlocking aluminum house frame, etc.

@LizAmazing 4 месяца назад

Yes! The Holiday Rambler- thanks for adding this! Enjoy yours.

@usatennisproff 4 месяца назад

Just bought a 2008 Holiday Rambler Arista 31.5 from an original owner with 18,000 miles. The mother drove the R V. till she was 83.

@42luke93 4 месяца назад

Wow that's wonderful she did that. My grandpa cant drive anymore at that age. Are these Ford Vans usually?@@usatennisproff

@JohnSmith-ug5ci 4 месяца назад

Liz, this is what happened. 1Tim. 6:10a “For the love of money is the root of all evil: Without specific and good laws to protect the consumer the evil hearts of man will always rise up. Trying to shame the manufacturers into quality will never work. There needs to be serious new laws to protect the consumer.

@LCLand 4 месяца назад

It might work. Warning us to stay away from them is good. It could hurt business and out the pressure on them

@steverice595 3 месяца назад

Having owned an RV repair business, my opinion has always been that most of them are junk. "Build them quick, and ship them out". I will stick with my 1991 Class C. Even though I have replaced most of the common components, I have spent less, abut yet all the "working stuff" is pretty new. Nice job on this content.

@alextrainor2552 19 дней назад

What model year do you think the cutoff is that you should buy?

@timl9495 3 месяца назад

Liz. You are doing a great service to all us RV'ers! By you exposing these bad manufactures I hope they will change their bad RV practices, and terrible builds. I purchased my Keystone Carbon 349 in 2018, and aside from minor problems, it has been terrific for us. Glad I bought before the pandemic. I am very handy, so I can fix all the minor problems. As I always tell friends looing for RV's, " you better be a very handy DYI person, or have lots of money and time to keep bringing your RV back to the dealer time and time again". I too went to the RV show in Utah a few weeks ago. I am still amazed at the poor design of many RV's. Keep up the pressure on these mgr.'s, exposed all the BAD ones, so we can avoid getting bad ones.

@kingforaday8725 4 месяца назад

Back in the 1990's I worked at an auto salvage yard. My job was to remove useful parts from salvaged vehicles. This included vehicles from golf carts to big rigs. Even back then when I came across a travel trailer or motorhome I was amazed at the flimsy construction. We would joke these things looked like they were constructed with popsicle sticks, finishing nails, and fiber board.

@LizAmazing 4 месяца назад

Yep. Thanks for your comment, very helpful!

@ericoswood1856 4 месяца назад

I bought a 2005 Winegago Vectra brand new and I still use it. Relatively few problems over the years. Solid build inside.

@LizAmazing 4 месяца назад

Yay, thanks for saying so, Eric!

@davidrichards2113 3 месяца назад

We went out west with friends that had the 2005 vectors. He loaded it with the works (Tracking satellite, sound system, large flat screen, etc. ). It was truly a home on wheels with monster diesel to boot.

@toddjcollins88 3 месяца назад

As a boater looking to get into RVs, this was a very informative video. Thank you for the effort and information that you put into this.

@MsQ275 Месяц назад

I'm really grateful to have stumbled across this video, very helpful info! thank you!!

@andycommonsincanada 4 месяца назад

Liz, we were in the retail furniture business for 20 years here in Canada and I can assure you it’s not just RVs, it’s furniture, mattresses, cars, in fact everything made here in North America. Corporate greed is the basic reason. We too went to the Tampa RV show and were shocked to see how bad some RVs were made, especially the high end rigs. Also we visited some factories in Elkhart in May and what we saw was terrible. We have visited many many manufacturers production facilities and truss us how they are making RVs is not what it should be. We are looking at smaller independent manufacturers for our next rig.

@LizAmazing 4 месяца назад

Yes, that is smart of you. I did a video about Oliver Trailers and will do more in the future of smaller independent mfrs. Thanks for watching and stay tuned.

@pnwrving9841 4 месяца назад

I have a 2022 Thor Scope, the FB forum speaks of poor quality, I must have had mine built on a good day since I have had very little issues. The dealership has been good to me also (Lazy Days)

@lewisbale1 4 месяца назад

True

@BG-sv2ch 4 месяца назад

Corporate greed or people wanted inexpensive products. More than likely it is both.

@brianw612 4 месяца назад

It's not only corporate greed. People simply wont spend what is required for a high quality NA product. You can produce that, but your share of the market would be so small that your economy of scale would break you.

@mikewatkins978 4 месяца назад

Another tip on used RV's is the length, seems the bigger it is the lower the price. That's something to consider, bigger/longer RV's have much higher maintenance, service departs charge more for the same service on longer RV's compared to shorter RV's, even the oil changes. Longer RV's aren't allowed in most national parks, can't just stay in a Walmart parking lot anymore. Driving the longer RV's takes skill, you don't realize just how wide 8.5ft is until you're on a two lane road or crowded freeway, turning radius, stopping distance. Also, just about any campground is very limited on long RV parking spots. Sweet spot is 24ft.

@JCCRaleighNC 3 месяца назад

Bravo! You nailed it. Finally someone with facts who is calling out the RV industry. Thank you.

@stephendaley2857 3 месяца назад

I just found you. You are very good in conveying your points and I will continue to follow you as I plan to get back on the road. Did full-time 25 years ago for a couple years and now want to get back to it. Really appreciate your perspective. Steve

@jimkempton5568 4 месяца назад

Wow woman, you are spot on in regards to the RV industry going to hell in a hand bag. The happiest day in my life was when I was able to sell my motor home. NEVER AGAIN!

@LizAmazing 4 месяца назад

I don't blame you, Jim. I hope the RV industry wakes up soon. Thanks for your comment and have a great weekend!

@williamnale7835 4 месяца назад

The only way the RV industry is going to wake up is people have to stop buying their products until they reform their ways. Or go out of business.

@AstrologerJoe 4 месяца назад

Good job Liz!! Informative video!

@julefos3344 4 месяца назад

Wow! I had no idea! Thank you for the great info!

@jonmcclure10 5 дней назад

Glad to see you knowledge on this subject. My wife and I agree with your comments 100%, but I am not sure that the industry can be saved from its demise! We have owned many different size campers, 5th wheel campers etc., and the ones made two decades ago have quality fit and finish, real wood and all the things mentioned. Not so today. I used to produce huge convention shows for 20 years nationwide, and everyone got into my shows with crowds of 50,000 to 80,000 in a two and a half day shows. Inside I put 200 of the largest food companies in largest shows, mid-size shows half that and home builders had a strong presence in most shows too, with everything in your home, plus an R.V. section outside for most shows, as the cost for square footage did not allow me to bring them into the convention centers. I did also have bass boats and other pleasure craft inside, but only in our Tampa Bay Food, Home, Health & Recreation shows would I allow large 50 to 100 million dollar yachts only five each year, do to size on the boat pier. Even Busch Gardens got in the shows, always a big pavilion in the front of the convention center, (big draw each year). However, free food from 100 or 200 of the largest food companies guaranteed a huge crowd for all vendors selling anything. Like they say, "if you keep the troops well fed they will fight for you", so-to-speak, as you want them staying for many hours to check all booths. If you have a party and NO one comes, that is not a good party! That was my goal. Back to the R.V. sections, well I as a person who knew R.V.'s having owned many, I saw also at my convention shows terrific quality down grades inside and outside most types of R.V.'s. We have many friends and family that own all kinds of R.V.s and all agree that it is a crap shoot trying to buy anything today that will hold up on or off the road. I think however, that Tiffin Motorhomes made in Red Bay, Alabama are one of few that is keeping their reputation for making high quality and luxurious and hand made RV's still. Check out their reviews and they want you there for the build at the plant, so you can see every step of production. I would like for this lady to look into these outstanding units, as I have been to the Alabama huge plant and been in dozens across the nation in shows and never heard a disparaging comment about Tiffin build quality. We do not trust the quality anymore, so we just stay in Hilton's all over America and the world now for our travels. Spent to many vacations repairing myself many R.V's even when they made the good stuff, but today forget it, as it is a full time job, keeping them working and running!

@kathleengilmore8238 4 месяца назад

Beautiful job Liz. Thank you!!!

@LizAmazing 4 месяца назад

Thanks for watching, Kathleen!

@RVLiving5863 3 месяца назад

Keep up the pressure, great job

@bindervegas8006 3 месяца назад

THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO! Excellent information! 👍

@JoseRojasA 3 месяца назад

Some quality reporting here. Thank you.

@brianbender7438 4 месяца назад

Nice video, Liz. I have heard the same comments from many, many people the last few years. I have helped people in campgrounds with their units to get generators started, jacks retracted, circuit breakers tripping, water leaks. Scary. We have a 1989 21’ Winnebago Warrior on a Ford E-350 chassis. That whole rig is so solid and after 127, 000+ miles, nothing is loose or falling off and we have been on some ugly roads, I tell ya. Minor screw tightening, the typical adjustments of door latches, steps, etc. are normal after being on rough roads or frame-twisting curb cuts. Everything works right, it’s clean inside, no rodent damage, plus I keep the unit under a cover, run the engine and all appliances once a month and it’s ready to go. But…we have switched over to a 2019 Airstream 23FB pulled by a 2017 Chevy Colorado with a Duramax diesel. Very nice combination and mileage is twice what our Warrior was. We spent a lot of nights in the old unit and I still love it. Just more comfy to have a bed on same level as everything else in the trailer. I’m not sure why we are keeping the Warrior. Just can’t bear to sell it? We started out in a little Scamp in 1977 and progressed from there. Airstreams are well built but still have a certain amount of hoki-ness and sloppy workmanship built in. I have done enough modifications and work on ours to have seen it myself. Thanks for the good show. Stay safe out there!

@LizAmazing 4 месяца назад

Hi Brian, thanks for sharing this. Sounds like you have good reasons to hang on to that 1989 Winnebago. And thanks for your kind words, stay safe as well.

@brianbender7438 4 месяца назад

@@LizAmazing Liz, You are welcome. I have subscribed to your channel and will look for your future shows!👍

@EllieAussie.. 4 месяца назад

I believe another issue with Covid, at least here in Australia was the massive demand on supply of caravans (I believe you call them travel trailers) and motorhomes (RV's) as there was no international travel for some time, Jayco and some others were importing caravans, putting them together here and selling them quickly en masse and of course the quality took a turn for the worse, you're doing such good work Liz you're the type of ally everyone dealing with the whole industry needs, love and peace from Australia as always 🦘😘

@LizAmazing 4 месяца назад

You are so right. Thanks for this, Ellie. It's true the RV industry went nuts during Covid. But I think that's no excuse for them slapping them together and thus compromising on quality. Very short sighted on their part. Thanks for watching

@mikelosinger7469 3 месяца назад

Excellent job, thank you for this information.

@brianarmstrong6215 Месяц назад

Excellent video! I bought an LG stove. Nothing but problems. Everything today is junk. I live on the Great Lakes and I’m paying 100$ a month for water!

@dougmac444 4 месяца назад

Great info, thanks! Cheers from Vancouver 🇨🇦

@LizAmazing 4 месяца назад

Hello, Doug! Cheers to you as well. Keep warm.

@justdoingitjim7095 4 месяца назад

I've owned several RV's and was a full timer for over a decade. My RV's were either HR, Air Stream or Silver Streak. I wanted the aluminum ribs and solid construction. I'm a retired Master Carpenter and know all about leaks and rotted wood in RV's. I've rebuilt and repaired several for clients and friends. The fit and finish of the older models was hands down much better than recent ones. My oldest was a 28 foot, 1970 Silver Streak and my newest was a 35 foot, 1995 Holiday Rambler. If you get anything between those years you'll have a gem!

@_GntlStone_ 3 месяца назад

That's why I bought a 1976 Serro Scotty. It may be mostly 3/4 plywood and yeah I have to peel and redo the luan in the roof, but it's rather simple and just requires willingness, elbow grease and time.

@patrickconroy8729 9 дней назад

Good stuff, thanks. My neighbor bought a new RV a while back, spent over a year trying to fix everything. He even drove to Indiana (from home in Fla) and parked at the manufacturer for several weeks in an attempt to get things fixed.

@SPDATA1 2 месяца назад

Great information. Thanks!👍

@mikerees9158 4 месяца назад

Hi Liz. I recently had a 2022 Winnie Class C. My observations, when compared to the Jayco and Forest River C’s I’ve had in the past is that the assembly of the Winnie was much better. Wiring wasn’t a rat’s nest, proper connectors/terminators on the electrical, plumbing was neat, etc. The quality of the rig itself though left much to be desired. The cabinetry was cheap, faucets, etc. Definitely not worth the price premium that Winnie charges. It still came with a plastic toilet for heaven’s sake (and yes we knew that when we bought it). After owning it for a year we couldn’t get over the overall cheapness of the unit. However, it didn’t have any outright failures or embarrassing moments. I’ve had way too many motorhomes over the past 13 years and my wife and I have decided to change our approach to the hobby. I have a F250 now and the next rig we purchase will be a towable; likely a Rockwood Minilite. We just don’t want the financial exposure that comes with motorized when it comes to this hobby. We’re hoping to keep it simpler the next go around (travel trailer, less complex less things to break). Going with Rockwood as most everything we can find online seems to show they are still trying to put out a decent product. They all have problems, and sometimes you get a real piece of junk coming off the line, but based on our research we’ll hedge our bets with a Rockwood towable.

@glenncoon6639 4 месяца назад

Keep em coming Liz these videos are on point !

@LizAmazing 4 месяца назад

Thank you, Glenn, I so appreciate you cheering me on!

@brianfuller757 4 месяца назад

Thanks for this video and the solid information. Saying that they don't build them like they used to is the reality.

@theonemodifier Месяц назад

Good information! Always wanted a bigger RV. But I'm still loving my 1993 Ford E150 707 Freedom conversion van. Build so well with really nice cabinetry. 31 years old and still runs like a dream. knock on wood.

@michaelanthony1797 4 месяца назад

I travel in a small suv, about every 3 days I stay in a decent motel/hotel or shower at a t Loves truck stop. Life is good.

@usaman7358 3 месяца назад

I have enough $ to buy virtually anything I want but am thinking of doing exactly what you are doing, but in a Toyota Sienna minivan. I didn't retire early in life to be dealing with all the frustrations of cheaply made motorhomes.

@nancystrickland1623 4 месяца назад

Liz keep up the great work!!

@LizAmazing 4 месяца назад

Thanks, Nancy, I sure appreciate your support!

@highwaypilot 4 месяца назад

We have a 2014 Forest River Micro Lite 21 DS, and we love the quality. Solid aluminum frame up & down, fully insulated, solid wood doors & cabinets, quality electric & plumbing. You can walk on the roof! Dry weight is 3900 lbs. Torsion axles. Absolutely love this RV.

@LizAmazing 4 месяца назад

Hang onto that bc they're sure not building them that way now. Thanks for watching.

@peacetruth3074 3 месяца назад

Thank you for sharing your insight

@coreymerritt7742 4 месяца назад

Great video Liz I really considering keeping my 2006 Komfort I’ve now owned it for 12 years now just regular maintenance and very little issues thanks keep it going 👍❤

@shaunnightfire8269 3 месяца назад

Bought a used 2006 Komfort trailblazer. Ultra solid - Bought for $10k then sold 2 years later in 2022 for $10.5k. No reason to buy the new junk.

@coreymerritt7742 3 месяца назад

@@shaunnightfire8269 ya that’s excellent I’ve had my trailer for 11 years now and the Komfort is a pretty solid trailer prior to Dutchman purchasing them in 2009 your probably right I should keep it thanks 😊

@ingridbond3432 4 месяца назад

excellent - very helpful, Liz, thanks!!

@LizAmazing 4 месяца назад

Thanks for being here, Ingrid! Have a great weekend!

@user-bu2lu4dk3y 3 месяца назад

Thanks for the Great video ! I was also at the Quartsite show this year and noticed the lack of quality in the new RVs.

@LizAmazing 3 месяца назад

Yep! Thanks for backing me up, and for watching!

@frankdecardenas53 Месяц назад

Very informative, thank you.

@wolfshurtleff1833 4 месяца назад

And again a beautiful job, Liz, you hit the nail on the head. Over our last two years of fulltime RVing we hear more and more about the decline in quality within the last couple of years. People rather buy an older model or keep their own older ones. Keep going Liz, brave people like you can make a change. Good luck from your friends Brook & Wolfie

@LizAmazing 4 месяца назад

Thanks so much, big hugs to you both! I sure appreciate your love and support.

@BRK-B-all-the-way 4 месяца назад

I just sold a 20' 1976 Shasta towable camper. I was the second owner. My phone was literally ringing off the wall. It had more than a thousand views in two days. It was all original, no leaks and no rust. It was very well taken care of and mechanically perfect. The first guy that came out said it was unbelievable and gave me my asking price....5k.

@LizAmazing 4 месяца назад

Wow. Thank you for sharing this. They definitely don't build them like they used to. Thanks for watching.

@Chris_WG 4 месяца назад

I will be in the market for an RV within the next year and this is such great info Liz! Great video, keep up the great work. Subscribed and liked! Cheers from California 😀👍

@LizAmazing 4 месяца назад

Cheers to you, Chris. And welcome!

@hunterf3 Месяц назад

Great video and very informative. Thank you.

@tayninh69 4 месяца назад

In 2011 my wife and I bought a brand new Keystone Passport. The first camping season went pretty good, no big problems. For every season after that, that rig was one big money pit. We finally traded it off for a 2018 Winnebago Travato, we needed something smaller because the larger 28 foot travel trailer was getting to be to much work and we were sick and tired of having it the shop every season. We have had only one issue with the Travato, a slide out tray table swelled from the humidity and was difficult to operate. I agree with everything you said Liz, I can't speak for any of the other brands but it will be a very frosty day in h$ll before I would buy another Keystone product. Very good video.

@LizAmazing 4 месяца назад

Thanks so very much for your kind words, and for watching!

@jameseaton9591 4 месяца назад

Great reporting

@LizAmazing 4 месяца назад

Thanks so much, James, so glad you are here!

@Glenn-tx7cd 22 дня назад

Right On! I've been considering returning to full-time RVing, but for the very reasons you detailed I'm going to forego the idea.

@alabamashagreen2106 4 месяца назад

Great video Liz!!!

@barbwire65 4 месяца назад

I thank you Liz for bringing up this problem up. I'm been watching your videos for a while, and I'm amazing how well you choose your content.

@LizAmazing 4 месяца назад

Aww, thanks Barb! I really appreciate your support. Thanks for watching

@norm5785 4 месяца назад

All very valid points. It is just a shame what has happened to Air Stream. Dealerships are also no help many many times. Thank you for sharing. Everyone stay safe, warm, happy and healthy. From Henrico County Virginia

@LizAmazing 4 месяца назад

Thank you, Norm! Enjoy your weekend.

@aceventuraaceventura2003 4 месяца назад

I think Thor owns Airstream. There is a video from Colonial Airstream that posts lots of video. I saw the wiring they did and it looked as sloppy as the Winnebago. Not many companies nowadays puts pride in their work. I rather look at builders from up North like in Canada. I know that Pleasureway is still one the better ones, and Northern Lites. But not Airstream, I think they are overpriced for what they are. All of these companies main goal is volume to raise the stock price but they sacrifice quality and customer service.

@clean1566 3 месяца назад

Exactly right! When we were going cross country 2019-2021, I couldn’t tell you how many people I ran into with brand new 5th wheelers that were broken in so many ways. Forest River being one of the worst. When I started looking used motorhome, I figured, buy the top of the line that you can afford. I bought a ‘92 Country Coach, which was the top of the industry at that time. Don’t regret it a bit. 1/2” tile floors, corian countertops, solid wood cabinets, and best appliances you could get at the time. No weight consciencness here. Lol the gillig chassis is still good, and old 8.3 cummmins, which got me 9mpg cross country, is still going strong. Headed to Idaho this summer. It pays to shop quality, do your homework, and do inspections before buying. Great video!

@LizAmazing 3 месяца назад

Awesome! Those Country Coaches are such wonderful classics, hang onto yours! Thanks for watching and for your kind words.

@notwhereyouthink 3 месяца назад

Some great tips and invaluable information.

@cabracove 4 месяца назад

Good post. It's not just the big RVs either. The van I turned into a hi-top camper is a 2004 E350, and its way better built than anything new. The Sprinters, Promasters, Transits are all unibody. I wouldn't own one just for that reason alone.

@esterdrass4964 4 месяца назад

Apparently, those older high-top vans are what people are looking for. I am not too keen on what they make today. I know someone that bought a nice-looking smart car...it stopped working because the computer wasn't able to communicate with the engine.

@cabracove 4 месяца назад

@@esterdrass4964 I couldn't find a low mileage one that wasn't stupid expensive, so I bought a cargo van with 70K on it, and had the top put on by Wasatch in Utah.

@esterdrass4964 4 месяца назад

@@cabracove I think that is the way to go, if you can find the right van at the right price. I looked and gave up because, as you mentioned, they were stupid expensive, to the point of insulting. When I was at an rv show a few years ago, class b's were selling above 150. I thought I would have passed out at the price tag.

@cabracove 4 месяца назад

@@esterdrass4964 15 for the van, 8 for the top installed with lights and fan. Another 5 for all the appliances, diesel heater, battery bank, DC charger, etc. So I'm still under 30K. It's been to the 8 states closest to CA and to Alaska twice in the last 2 years. Still only has 95K on the odo. There's nothing luxury about it, but everything works as it should. I'm very happy with it.

@esterdrass4964 4 месяца назад

@@cabracove That's fantastic and as long as its comfortable. I love the idea of lux but not for the price tag nor do I like the idea of lux taking over everything in the van and leaving little space. Enjoy your rving!!

@phoenixmistertwo8815 Месяц назад

Same with cars... Its seems the 90s is the best year even to this day.

@user-zt6gu1ph7c 3 месяца назад

Thanks for all those suggestions and answers however disappointing the years of the builds and quality. Wow. Thank you 😊😊

@LizAmazing 3 месяца назад

You are so welcome. I just posted an update here, and thanks for watching: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-61NGKhMK9tc.html

@joells371 3 месяца назад

WOW! Amazing information!!

@rmahlbacher 4 месяца назад

Awesome video‼️ Hopefully 2024 is a good year for Brinkley 🤞🏻🤞🏻

@LizAmazing 4 месяца назад

Yes!!! Enjoy yours!

@cjbrown4905 4 месяца назад

This is an amazing video. I will only buy used at this point.

@LizAmazing 4 месяца назад

I'm with you. Thanks for watching.

@neilwilliams5173 3 месяца назад

Thank you for an honest report on the RV industry you are right on the money! We have had truck campers and trailers most of the ones we have purchased in the last 10 or so years are in a word JUNK.We have purchased our last one for sure.I use my canvas 10’x10’ tent more than the RV,but thats just me.Good luck to all who purchase these rigs.

@gavinturner3838 2 месяца назад

Great video ! Been watching you for years now. Just want to give my 2 cents on my Class C motorhome. It's a 2019 Coachmen Freelander 32 DS (aka FS) with a Ford V-10. We live in it full time at an RV park. Only been on 2 trips with it (7500 miles total). I consider it a very well made motorhome. No major issues at all. Tons of storage ! Have made a few minor upgrades to make it more liveable. Definitely a keeper.

@starkman14a 4 месяца назад

I have friends who are planning to buy their first RV this spring. I am CERTAINLY going to tell them this report is a MUST-SEE! Thank you!

@LizAmazing 4 месяца назад

Thank you so much for sharing this!

@Bo-hb3eo 4 месяца назад

Hi Liz, you’re absolutely right. And it’s a shame, we live in RV manufacturing country. And I’m embarrassed, even though I’m not in the industry. I have family and friends who are. We have an older camper trailer. 2001 in fact. A Fleetwood. Obviously, it’s been maintained and upgraded over the years but it’s in wonderful shape. Everything works, even the air conditioning. The problem is… some campgrounds seem to discriminate against older campers. That’s been a problem for us. Thankfully, not at our local state campground… Yet. Thanks again.

@LizAmazing 4 месяца назад

I have heard that there is a "ten year rule" at some campgrounds but I have never had that problem and I have a 2005 and travel the country. A few places have asked me to send photos of my rig and then it's been fine. So keep trying as I think those discriminatory campgrounds are few and far between. And thank you so much for your support!!! Have a great weekend.

@BlondieSL 3 месяца назад

What an excellent video! I knew that something was up with new rigs, but I didn't know that it was this bad. Over 25 years ago, we had a 34' Jayco 5th wheel. We loved that thing, but life changed so we sold it. It didn't have any problems at all. In fact, the only thing that we did to it when we bought it was to add a pressure tank for the water system to stop that pulsing issue with 12V water pumps and I bought a top end inverter as this didn't come with one. We already had a Honda generator, so that was all we needed. Back then, I think we paid something like $35K (around that) but the new ones now are more than double that.... And for what!!?? So last summer/fall, we went out to have a peek at new motorhomes. Class A or B or C, depending on what caught our fancy. The short of it was that we didn't like a single one of them. They all seemed very "over filled" with "stuff", making them not so spacious. They seemed very dark too. Not the huge windows like our Jayco had. We don't like that closed in look. I could make a list of things that we just hated with all these brands, but I don't want to break the internet. LOL I could see some of the bad quality issues, but not having experience like this lady has, I didn't notice most of it. I didn't even think to look at the materials of the doors, cabinets and other "wood" work. If it's all composite, then that is a HUGE red flag! So then the sales lady tried to show us a used Mercedes motorhome. It didn't look too bad from the outside. But HOLY CRAP, when she opened the door, we almost fainted from the really bad smell of FUNGUS/MOLD! We didn't even go inside this thing. She tried to play it down, which was a huge mistake with me. I'm no fool and let her know that I'm very aware that this is caused by massive leaks in this thing. At that point, we just left, very disappointed I might add.

@doogie812 3 месяца назад

Very enlightening, Thank you so much.

@LizAmazing 3 месяца назад

Thank you for watching!

@philc.9280 4 месяца назад

We had a wonderful experience so far with our brand-new Winnebago Travato 59G class B RV. I realize there are much less moving parts than a larger class A or C. No slides and less systems to go bad. We've downsized from a larger class C as our needs changed over time. Also nice getting 17 mpg now. Taken 10 trips so far and no issues yet.

@LizAmazing 4 месяца назад

Yay! Thank you for this! Happy travels, Phil!

@petermenor8074 4 месяца назад

Not sure what year your 59 G is but I have a 22 59 K and have had 4 recalls with the major one being with the awning. Had 2 recalls on this and still no fix after 3 months. I love the Travato but recalls are a pain to deal with. Not sure what is going on with Winnebago/Carefree but this is not rocket science and this should have been fixed long ago.

@philc.9280 4 месяца назад

@@petermenor8074 it's a 2023 and I did take it in to have the fuel line on the generator replaced. That was pretty minor. I heard about the possible recall of my awning prematurely activating while driving but nothing has transpired yet. Now that I'm thinking about it, I could just bind the awning with wire just to be on the safe side for my next long trip in May.

@johnwinter9722 4 месяца назад

A sad story, especially the COVID supply chain issues. I traded in a 2018 Aerolite for a 2023 Rockwood Mini Lite last August. The Aerolite was pretty good and nothing serious went wrong in five years of ownership. The Rockwood so far has been impeccable. Well made, solid wood cabinetry, everything works, and it tows like a dream with the torsion bar suspension. The fit and finish is surprising in its quality. I expected to spend a day with my tools and fasteners finishing up what the factory left undone. Not needed.

@LizAmazing 4 месяца назад

Glad to hear this, thanks for your comment, John! Enjoy that Rockwood!

@glennkemp7450 4 месяца назад

We just bought a 2024 Flagstaff Micro lite 21FBRS, I looked it over top to bottom and it's really well built (no defects so far) compared to our last trailer, a 2021 Winnebago 2108 DS which spent the first two weeks of ownership getting defects repaired and then another 6 weeks at the dealer over the following year.

@johnwinter9722 4 месяца назад

Good to hear about your Flagstaff Micro Lite (same as Rockwood Mini Lite). All of my research suggested Rockwood/Flagstaff were a stair step up in quality and appointments from many trailers. So far, as you have found, it is true. Maybe not the very top of the line, but even those silver trailers have their issues. Good luck!@@glennkemp7450

@paulrybarczyk5013 4 месяца назад

The CCP-Virus did not cause supply chain issues. The supply-chain issues were caused by authoritarian mandates from corrupt government operatives.

@spike0226 4 месяца назад

April 2021 sold my 2016 Mini-Lite and ordered a 2021 Rockwood 2606WS from Wana RV in Shipshewana Indiana. Got it just before the big Covid push and I must say it has been flawless. I’ve put almost 20,000 miles on it with no issues. Then again, that’s why I stuck with Rockwood. Perfect? No. Better than others? Yes.

@cheshire928 2 месяца назад

I purchased a 2018 Arctic Fox last year in like new condition. The build is great and the woodwork is outstanding. Plus I paid about half price of a new one.

@JohnJohn-wr1jo 4 месяца назад

So glad we passed a few years back because of quality and pricing on an upgrade. We were absolutely shocked with the build quality and components. Sold our 5 vear old TT for top dollar two years ago and built out our Suburban as an off road camper for 2. Not as big as the camper but much more versatile especially for boondocking. We tow our boat north in the summer for 3 to 4 months and head to Florida or Arizona in the winter.

@LizAmazing 4 месяца назад

Ooh, sounds like you followed a good plan. Happy travels! Thanks for watching.

@cliffmolz8719 4 месяца назад

Hello Liz, I agree with you 100% regarding the quality in workmanship of today's RV's/trailers versus several years ago. My wife and I purchased our 2005 Airstream Classic 28" early last year with all original equipment and everything still works e.g. AC, fridge, stove, etc. We are on several Airstream Forums and people purchasing newer model Airstreams from 2019 forward are having nothing but trouble with them. One of the main problems I have seen is cabinets falling down, water leaks and electronic problems. We have traveled over 10,000 miles in our AS so far in less than a year and plan to do a lot more. Regards....

@juliebolduc802 4 месяца назад

We had planned to trade up this year, from a small travel trailer to a small class c. After doing much research and reading what owners were saying about lack of quality- we decided to keep our little camper (a 2022) and be happy we have had zero issues. One of the few and far between, eh?

@usatennisproff 4 месяца назад

The day is not over yet........

@thebluetarp 4 месяца назад

we have a 2013 keystone hideout 24 foot trailer. We bought it brand new in 2013. We have a literally had zero issues. We did have a piece of crown molding pop off that I had to staple back on and our wheel well. Plastic covers have cracked. But other than that, literally zero problems. We were thinking of upgrading, but after seeing what garbage is being built today and watching videos like this, we are seriously reconsidering. We love our RV and I would hate to upgrade to something that was nothing but a headache. It’s now 10 years old and of course, with age comes things like roof replacement, window, seal replacement, etc.. But those things, pale, in comparison cost wise to the cost of a brand new RV.

@phillipdale6765 4 месяца назад

Wow. This is so informative..I was considering a new rv but after watching this I am hesitant

@LizAmazing 4 месяца назад

Sorry about that. Not a good time to buy new, but as I say in the video there are plenty of quality built used RVs out there, and I name names! Thanks for watching, Phillip.

@cowgirlval5216 4 месяца назад

I've been wondering all that myself Liz! This is such a valuable video! Thank you for making this one and how that book coming along?😂😂😂 Liz we are blessed to have you❤

@LizAmazing 4 месяца назад

Hi Val, well you know I haven't written one word in the book lately. I have been so busy with the channel that it will have to replace any book that I may have written. Thanks so much for your love and support!

@cowgirlval5216 4 месяца назад

@LizAmazing 👍❤️ I'll be the first to buy that book and I'll wait how ever long it takes. Consider naming it "The RV Travel Bible"👍

@I_need_an_oil_change 4 месяца назад

Wow. Thx Liz! Happy with my 2010 Keystone 34 foot travel trailer. Live full time in it. Survived Hurricane Ian without a scratch during a direct hit. Some of the newer rigs didn't survive..

@rhod8201 3 месяца назад

I have a 2018 Flagstaff TT. Bought it new. I’ve towed it all over the country with no issues.

@deacon2796 2 месяца назад

Ive been fullbtiming in a 2012 Coachmen Mirada for over a year now. So far nothing falling apart and everything was built with solid wood.

@lonab324 4 месяца назад

Looking forward to seeing more videos related to your travels.

@LizAmazing 4 месяца назад

Thanks. I really have never done any kind of travelogue. This channel is mostly educational for RVers, would-be RVers, and armchair RVers. I have done a lot of tips and tricks related to RVing in the past. Thanks for watching and for your feedback!

@bernardszirth9665 4 месяца назад

Always well researched information to keeping us safe from profiteers with no morals! Thank you Liz 🙏

@LizAmazing 4 месяца назад

Awww, thanks Bernard! Big hugs to you!

@sunvale1 Месяц назад

My 17 View Winnebago had some issues and I fully echo your opinion on the quality of coaches. My type of unit based on reports from others had minimum problems but still had minor issues. One of the big problems is the AC. It the lowest quality on he market. I purchased one just for a back up. The awning is absolutely junk. The bathroom door delaminated within 2 years. w Within 6 months of purchase I had a list of around 25 items to be repaired and took it to the dealer in Ohio, Lichtsin RV and they took care of all of it. I must say dealing with them was very good. Since I am very handy in fixing things, it was all just more of an annoyance than anything else. But you are absolutely right, the quality of work has gone and way to many components for the coaches come from China. My old 1985 Bounder was rock solid. Thanks for you report and keep up the reports. Peter