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What they DON'T tell you about the TR-909.. (external instruments!) 

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@Dirty1200
@Dirty1200 3 года назад
TR-909 and S950 midi combo is a classic house setup (early dj.sneak and so on) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-TgyMEG4tmAQ.html
@gwEmbassy
@gwEmbassy 3 года назад
I will need to try this setup myself!
@falangistavaleroso9689
@falangistavaleroso9689 3 года назад
I am going to get an s950 of a friend who bought new , I own a 909 and almost all those boxes.
@Dirty1200
@Dirty1200 3 года назад
Ian Pooley used that setup aswell
@siccavicca
@siccavicca 2 года назад
Yep I made HIPHOP. THAT WAY SINCE 1987!!!!!
@robertocaldarigi2845
@robertocaldarigi2845 Год назад
@@siccaviccaconcordo. si fa da anni. Non è una funzione nascosta. Lo si fa con qualsiasi drum maschine tramite midi. Basta mappare il range di ricezione dello strumento extra. Nulla di nuovo. 👍
@Rompler_Rocco
@Rompler_Rocco Год назад
Genuinely shocked to have not heard this mentioned before now! Very sensible addition for the time. And IMHO, the modern "clones" should have included it.
@gwEmbassy
@gwEmbassy Год назад
Yes, they should definitely have included it. Very cool feature.
@venusiansky
@venusiansky 3 года назад
One still useful feature of this is to create a synth or bass line with TR-909 Shuffle. Though you can always capture 909 shuffle as a groove template in your DAW and sync anything to that timing.
@gwEmbassy
@gwEmbassy 3 года назад
That’s a very good tip!
@FetzAV
@FetzAV 2 года назад
Incredible!!! Thank you so much for making this video! New 909 owner and I can't wait to try this out! Subscribed! Cheers from Cali USA!
@gwEmbassy
@gwEmbassy 2 года назад
Thanks for the sub :) :)
@DarrenJHorgan
@DarrenJHorgan 3 года назад
OMG ,,, I never new this, ,never seen or heard about this until now,, rarely read a manual,, looking forward to experimenting with this now.
@gwEmbassy
@gwEmbassy 3 года назад
It’s a cool feature :)
@zibbybone
@zibbybone Год назад
I've made several videos using the 909's External Instrument Mode on my Channel. I even have one video with TWO 909s, one playing bass sound on Jupiter 6 & the other playing chords on a JD-800.
@gwEmbassy
@gwEmbassy Год назад
Nice one! I’ll check those out :)
@klivvervision
@klivvervision Год назад
The External MIDI mode was my favorite feature of the 909. I loved triggering arps and RPS patterns on my JP-8000. I don't understand why Roland hasn't included this on any of the remakes or any other TR device. (Roland's Bulk Librarian for the MC-50 also is handy for doing bulk dumps & backups over SysEx, which someone else may have commented on here.)
@gwEmbassy
@gwEmbassy Год назад
I agree, they should have included it on the boutique
@MLochMusic
@MLochMusic Год назад
Hi mate. Thanks so much 👍🏻
@gwEmbassy
@gwEmbassy Год назад
You’re welcome :)
@thatmr.a8010
@thatmr.a8010 Год назад
Polyphonic no less?! Awesome, thank you for this tip! I will try it out asap. This is gonna be fun!
@gwEmbassy
@gwEmbassy Год назад
Enjoy Mr A!
@thatmr.a8010
@thatmr.a8010 Год назад
@@gwEmbassy This works like a charm! Love ya bro!
@TimJacksonOriginal
@TimJacksonOriginal 3 года назад
Nice. The DR-202 drum machine also has this feature (plus a built-in basic bass Rompler).
@gwEmbassy
@gwEmbassy 3 года назад
A few people rate the DR-202. Maybe I should try one at some point :) Thanks for watching!
@TimJacksonOriginal
@TimJacksonOriginal 3 года назад
​ @gwEm’s gwEmbassy It's a decent enough machine, though probably not for techno so much as breakbeats, hip hop, dub/reggae kind of styles. There are some nice features like the groove templates that add an extra level of complexity. For me its biggest flaw was the LCD screen with no backlight. It made it nigh on impossible to take to gigs without a headtorch! :)
@gwEmbassy
@gwEmbassy 3 года назад
That is quite a big flaw!
@kentaccordionist
@kentaccordionist Год назад
In the late 1980s I used a Yamaha rx17 to sequence bass lines to my dx100, by changing the midi notes output by the different drums.
@gwEmbassy
@gwEmbassy Год назад
That’s neat :)
@vincevega8127
@vincevega8127 Год назад
This is how did all his big hits with tr909 with external mode to trigger s950 and mackie mixer! But this can be done with most drum machine that send midi out.
@gwEmbassy
@gwEmbassy Год назад
I think you missed the name of the artist in your comment. I’m dying to know who :)
@ASH-ou4cg
@ASH-ou4cg 3 года назад
Quite interesting! I had no clue about this! It does seem a little cumbersome to deal with, but I can see its usefulness. It also keeps things really tight with the 909 drums themselves. Thanks for sharing! I had no idea you had a 909. You must be rich, you have so much. ;)
@gwEmbassy
@gwEmbassy 3 года назад
I wish I was rich!!! Definitely not with this stuff ;)
@ASH-ou4cg
@ASH-ou4cg 3 года назад
@@gwEmbassy haha, well you do have a lot of jealousy inducing kit! I had no clue you even had a 909, since you always rave about the 707, instead!
@gwEmbassy
@gwEmbassy 3 года назад
I do prefer the 707 to the 909. I was thinking about making a video explaining why actually :) With the 909, there’s actually only one position where the knobs sound the best, so it might as well have fixed sounds like the 707.. although the 909 sounds are awesome of course.
@ASH-ou4cg
@ASH-ou4cg 3 года назад
@@gwEmbassy You see, another thing I didn't know. Everybody seems to rave about how flexible the 909 is, but if it doesn't actually sound good when altered, then what is the point? I give a thumbs up to that comparison video. I have never seen another video like this and I think it'll be very enlightening to watch. please do. Thanks and keep up the great work!
@gwEmbassy
@gwEmbassy 3 года назад
Ok! I will do this video. I’m not so sure the 909 is that flexible and the interface is cumbersome. It does sound amazing though and it is iconic due to being used on a lot of famous tracks. I do think about selling the 909 from time to time. The 808, though, is a beautiful machine.
@UncleGordon1978
@UncleGordon1978 3 года назад
very interesting thank you! more 909 vids pls !
@gwEmbassy
@gwEmbassy 3 года назад
Thanks! You got it :)
@OffworldRecords
@OffworldRecords Год назад
Great video - well explained
@gwEmbassy
@gwEmbassy Год назад
Thanks!
@TeslaDanser
@TeslaDanser Год назад
The 505 is the same. Unbelievable midi spec for the price
@gwEmbassy
@gwEmbassy Год назад
Actually the 505 is a bit different with its MIDI sequencing. I have a video on that too.
@TeslaDanser
@TeslaDanser Год назад
@@gwEmbassy oh, okay, thanks for that. Checking yr vid out now :)
@TeslaDanser
@TeslaDanser Год назад
I just watch it there. Nice video. I was only reading the 505 manual last night , thought it could do all in the 909 video. I have that hks kit for the 505 too. Just too lazy to install it haha
@hINC
@hINC 3 года назад
It's in the manual. So I guess "they" told us. What's not really in the manual is the possibilty of saving and loading patterns via MIDI sysex.
@gwEmbassy
@gwEmbassy 3 года назад
Agreed. Not many people talk about the feature though, which is crazy because I think it’s one of the coolest things about the 909
@gwEmbassy
@gwEmbassy 3 года назад
And I did find the manual description about the external sequencer not the best written. But it was enough to figure it out for sure.
@gwEmbassy
@gwEmbassy 3 года назад
I didn’t know about the sysex feature!
@klinkske
@klinkske 3 года назад
If,i m right, the mc303 does that the same way. Funny to hear you say ‘in the box’ :)
@gwEmbassy
@gwEmbassy 3 года назад
That might be true! I’ve never tried an MC-303 but it’s on my bucket list :)
@BWPT.
@BWPT. 2 года назад
The MC-303 is actually quite a capable sequencer when you delve into it, you can change gate length for each step for example. I used one for years to sequence synths and sampler for playing live sets, I only ever programmed it in step mode too.
@lg88-j5d
@lg88-j5d 2 года назад
Thank you!!
@gwEmbassy
@gwEmbassy 2 года назад
Thanks for checking it out :)
@portra_services
@portra_services Год назад
Damn!
@gwEmbassy
@gwEmbassy Год назад
😎
@siccavicca
@siccavicca 2 года назад
Its NOT A SECRET “ I have made many records ..hiphop , jazz and abstract music” using my 909 as my main sequencers from 1987 to Around 2000. Mostly triggering my Akai S950 custom sampler .I love it .. and will use it again as mine has just been serviced .but I don’t bleav it can send accents over midi ..”but I could be wrong”
@gwEmbassy
@gwEmbassy 2 года назад
That’s brilliant feedback. Would love to hear some.
@mariopak4817
@mariopak4817 2 года назад
Cool
@gwEmbassy
@gwEmbassy 2 года назад
🙏
@MLochMusic
@MLochMusic Год назад
Hi mate, me again with a difficult Q. ha. How do you program the 909 polyphonically? I want to do chords with my Juno. Also Im going to guess you can only output one MIDI channel at a time? IE cant do say Bass on MIDI ch 1 and Chords on MIDI ch 2 Thanks again.
@gwEmbassy
@gwEmbassy Год назад
It’s polyphonic, but only one channel
@kilevox
@kilevox 3 года назад
I have to ask if this same feature has the TR-707? I know you are having it and it was produced a year after 909 was.
@gwEmbassy
@gwEmbassy 3 года назад
No, the 707 doesn’t have this feature. But the 707 does have other cool features. Overall, I do prefer the 707. But that kick drum!
@vanitygamble565
@vanitygamble565 3 года назад
I remember a youtube vid about this a number of years back - thoughnot so much depth.
@gwEmbassy
@gwEmbassy 3 года назад
I figured it was an interesting one to cover
@vanitygamble565
@vanitygamble565 3 года назад
@@gwEmbassy Definitely - and much more comprehensive too
@moondog297
@moondog297 3 года назад
Any chance you know how to sync a tr 909 with a sequential Tom I can sequence it, but I can’t get it to start and stop at the same time and I can find anything on RU-vid.
@gwEmbassy
@gwEmbassy 3 года назад
Sorry Greg, I’ve never used a Sequential Tom :(
@jokerz909
@jokerz909 2 года назад
Can you use more than 1 instrument ? Seems like you only have 1 option being any ext inst is all I can do with mine. I triggered a line on live 11. But I was not able to program more than one midi channel . Is it possible to use Ext Inst for 16 Midi Channels? At this point I only have 16 Midi notes.
@gwEmbassy
@gwEmbassy 2 года назад
Yes, that’s all you get. Perfect for triggering an external sampler though
@lownrgy
@lownrgy 2 года назад
There is something very familiar with 909 external groove
@gwEmbassy
@gwEmbassy 2 года назад
I’ve been intending to go back and make a track with the 909 sequencing a sampler. You are right, the 909 does have its own groove.
@cuccomposer
@cuccomposer 3 года назад
Is there any way to sequence other midi notes outside that fixed range?
@gwEmbassy
@gwEmbassy 3 года назад
No, it has to be that fixed range
@2001pulsar
@2001pulsar 3 года назад
Same also for TR-707
@2001pulsar
@2001pulsar 3 года назад
But not separate from the rhythm sequence
@gwEmbassy
@gwEmbassy 3 года назад
You are right, it’s not separate, which is an important limitation.
@matthewjimenez9861
@matthewjimenez9861 3 года назад
I was wondering if the TR-09 has this plz write back
@gwEmbassy
@gwEmbassy 3 года назад
As far as I know, it does not
@dogunit3034
@dogunit3034 3 года назад
Hi Gwen, do you know of a quick way to dump a tr909 pattern data into Ableton? (not the external instrument rather the drum pattern)
@gwEmbassy
@gwEmbassy 3 года назад
Hi Dog Unit, I don’t know of a quick way. The 909 doesn’t send MIDI out for the drum patterns I believe, only the ext instrument. I does have a sysex mode apparently, not really explained in the manual. Maybe you could investigate that.
@gwEmbassy
@gwEmbassy 3 года назад
www.colinfraser.com/tr909/909-sysex-howto.txt
@dogunit3034
@dogunit3034 3 года назад
@@gwEmbassy I love using the 909s internal sequencer it never sounds right using it as a midi module! I wish there was a way round it!
@dogunit3034
@dogunit3034 3 года назад
ill have to have a chart on my wall for the pattern / track write procedure!
@BWPT.
@BWPT. 2 года назад
Will it flam?
@gwEmbassy
@gwEmbassy 2 года назад
Never tried flaming on the external instruments channel. But I suppose it won’t flam.
@dogunit3034
@dogunit3034 3 года назад
how do you copy and paste the ext instrument ?
@gwEmbassy
@gwEmbassy 3 года назад
Isn’t it: select destination, shift, copy, source, enter?
@dogunit3034
@dogunit3034 3 года назад
@@gwEmbassy hope so!
@PaulAup62
@PaulAup62 3 года назад
Do you know how much of this is applicable to the boutique version
@gwEmbassy
@gwEmbassy 3 года назад
I don’t think the boutique version has the external instrument sequencer. At least, when I checked the manual. Which is a pity. The boutique version sounds really good though.
@gwEmbassy
@gwEmbassy 3 года назад
What I didn’t like about the boutique when I tried was the small buttons. Have a try with one before you go for it.
@autoy
@autoy 3 года назад
You’re limited to that particular note range or is there a way to transpose the notes?
@gwEmbassy
@gwEmbassy 3 года назад
You are limited to a specific range of 16 notes
@SebastianSnoeck
@SebastianSnoeck 3 года назад
i used this only once , in 93 or 94
@gwEmbassy
@gwEmbassy 3 года назад
Did you find it useful?
@dogunit3034
@dogunit3034 15 дней назад
are you stuck on one octave
@gwEmbassy
@gwEmbassy 14 дней назад
it’s a little over 1 yes
@divad-deee-vice
@divad-deee-vice 7 месяцев назад
Just shows nobody reads manuals! 😂
@gwEmbassy
@gwEmbassy 7 месяцев назад
definitely!!
@mariopak2730
@mariopak2730 2 года назад
Cool
@gwEmbassy
@gwEmbassy 2 года назад
😃
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