I just put 285/70/17’s on my 2022 trd pro with the stock setup - (1.5” lift in front and .5” block in rear). Minor rubbing in full lock and reverse. I did some plastic trimming and obviously removed the mudflaps and so far so good. No cab mount chop needed.
Chloe, you are amazing. Thank you for making me love my '22 trd offroad Tacoma more than I did when I bought it.. a feat I didn't think possible till watching many of your videos. Keep it up!
Thanks for the insider pricing. It saved me $100s over suggested price. Basically got the 5th wheel for free with change back 🙂Went with MR703 17" and Falken AT/4w 10ply over the KO2s
A retune can help with the power loss, primarily as it will remap your shift points. Regearing IS appropriate to the nearly 10% increase in diameter that going from factory to 33" gives you, but it is not "cheap". Additionally the larger tires have a noticeable effect on articulation (particularly up front) where 285's are known to produce noticeable rubbing (mostly during steering under compression) even on moderately lifted (1-2") vehicles, do to the combination of larger diameter and wider stance.
I normally recommend skipping the retune right away and just re-gearing. I did just a tune on my wrangler and all it caused was more issues. Put less pressure on the driveline and re gear. do it once, Do it right. then if you feel like you want a tune after do it. Keep in mind though I was going from a 31 to a 315/75r16 (34.6 In)
I have a 2" lift running 285s and have never experienced any rubbing on or offroad. I do admit to never driving hard offroad where it might cause serious compression of the suspension tho.
I have 285/75/16 General grabber on my ‘18 TRD OR. With a tune for 33” and stock gears I’m getting 19.5 mpg but also have rock sliders. Get it tuned and you’ll get the mpg and power back!
I have a white 2014 tacoma with a 6-inch lift and 285's that looks exactly like this truck. I LOVE it, yeah the 4.0 V6 with 285's aint getting me more than 15.1 miles per gallon but man they don't feel bumps at all 😂👌
I do a fuel system cleaning every oil change, and tire rotation at the 5K mile mark. My dealership gave us a lifetime oil change but Toyota recommends that the oil change is every 10K miles, but I still change it every 5K miles, so I have to pay for every other oil change. After I supply the oil and filter the change itself is $40. Our Toyota dealership uses Mobile 1 full synthetic oil, so that’s what I’ll stay with. I personally prefer Valvoline full synthetic but I don’t like changing oil brands.
285's looks so awesome on our tacos, wish it was it came factory, with the proper mods to to compliment that size I noticed in the 33 second mark on the video, when the suspension is cycling, there is lots of play in the bushing of the lower control arm.......? That truck is looking great, keep up the great work
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥let go!!!! Chloe your truck looks amazing I love the upgrade you did on your truck 🛻 keep up the awesome work everybody let get this channel to 100k subscribers🎊🍾🎉 I believe that we can do it💪🏾😎💯
This question is off topic for tires, its about you rebuilding the vehicle. Where you able to find and buy factory painted fenders? or did you have to have the fenders paint matched, and how did the paint turn out. Any recommendation on getting new fenders, ie: supply source or tips on paint.
The truck is looking good!! I noticed there is a substantial amount of play in the bushings on your LCAs. I’m not an expert by any means but I don’t think it’s suppose to move that much.
I'm about to take delivery of a 2023 TRD Pro & was wondering if those 17" 285's will bolt on with no rub or fitment issues. The TRD Pro is supposed to come from the factory with a 1.5" lift in front & about half of that on the rear. I welcome your thoughts and any comments about such a wheel/tire upgrade. Thx & I really enjoy your vids.👍
Hrm do I need a lift on my TRD off-road 4x4 stock to upsize the tires? Was planning to keep the stock with winter/snow tires for ski season and swap to a summer pair.
Looks good. I’m running 285 75 16s ridge grapplers on the Pro with westcott front. Is this white Pro owned by you now? Manual transmission help and the KDmax pro tune has it feeling smooth. The grapplers are pretty darn quiet also.
Chloe, I noticed your dash gauges showed 344 miles to empty. I have the same tacoma, but with a 6' bed. How are you getting that many miles on a tank of gas? Did you get a tune installed? If so, do you contribute the increase in gas mileage to the tune? Great vids. Thanks!
What about the spare? Did you use a Toyota 17" steelie or the same Method for the spare? Did it fit up there with not heat issues from the tail pipe??? We need answers
So would you go with the 285 or stick with the 265. I’m looking at upgrading my OR tires. I don’t see my self doing any rock crawling anytime soon. Will be putting a lift on the truck. Most off roading is sand and mud.
Good morning Dear Chloe, I like your performance “enthusiasm and very professional In your explanation”, I feel sure with your content. My question is I have Toyota Tacoma 2021. I want to change for 295 or 305 Al terrain 70/r16 , I believe than I have to leaf 3 inches. And can I use the same suspension. 2) what to you do if this is your truck to looks great, feel comfortable and safe money in the upgrade
Cool video. Good information. I have a gen 2 trd pro. I've watched a few of your videos. One question I have is what is that jack you are using? looks sweet. I think I want one! lol.
You really should regear with those tires. It’s totally worth it. It will actually improve your mpg believe it or not. Tacoma factory gearing for automatics is horrible.
Chloe, awesome video. I am curious, with only lifting the front end, did the suspension settle enough to where the trucks level is even? Or did you have to make some adjustments?
Just got my 22 Tacoma TRD Pro and thinking about changing the tires to BFG K02 but sticking to the stock set up of 265/70/16. I don't want to go 285 because that would mean lift the truck further, change the gearing and tune to accommodate 285? What do you think about just switching up wranglers to BFG at 265, is that worth the switch?
Curious to know what you did with the tires & rims that were on the car. are they in storage or you planning on keeping them. I’m in the market for those 2020 trd pro rims tires setup are you willing to sell them.
Did you remove the sway bar on your TRD Pro? I took mine off recently and it made a huge improvement on-road comfort (potholes and ruts) and made off road articulation a true independent front suspension
Please have my babies. Ok seriously, I have a 19 TRD off road premium 4 runner and just got a 3" lift with 285/70r/17 BFG ko2s and it's been pretty good. Not a lot of tire noise but my gas mileage did take a drop as expected. I'm getting about 15mpg highway now. Gas mileage is not a big concern. Super satisfied this far. Thank you for the review!
I have not made the switch yet... I have however been talking to a couple people who did. (one drives a 2018 TRD OR (same model as mine) With no lift I am told they had very rare rubbing, but these are overlanders, not rock crawlers. gogoy, 2x4? I do not even know how much clearance you would have... I have not owned a 2 wheel drive in maybe 15 years now, and that was my first ford ranger. busted knuckles, my own plan for my 2018 is when the tires wear down, I am going non lifted with the 255s, if I have rubbing trouble I will be going OME myself (the old fashioned lift kit not that BP51 or whatever it is called) until I can afford fox shocks with deaver rear leafs. That would add 2 inches, which as I understand it would be plenty for an overland or light trail truck, but insufficient for something meant to do twisty trails. From my research into it, 3" is probably the ideal case, but the lift kits get a LOT more pricy at that mark. The OME lift kit was my plan before I even had the trick in my driveway, then Chloe got me lusting after that fox suspension :) (I have to admit, the Fox IS a better suspension (in both function and appearance) than the OME, but comes at around 3+ times the price). But with closing down my business during covid and everything else the budget is not looking forward to replacing 5 tires, AND doing a lift, so I am now looking at doing it in stages. Still as I said above. The skinnies are said by several driving them to be good with no lift unless you push the flexing too far. They will give you just shy of 1.5" actual ground clearance increase. With no lift they will still tub when under compression, especially if turning, but not as badly as wider tires do. The 285/75r16 are 32.8" and 11.2" wide while the 285/75r17 are 33.8. The 255/85/16 sit between the two at 33.1 (with some brands measuring in at 33.4) they are also approximately 10" wide and run on stock wheels, though those method wheels Chloe got with their bead grip technology are GREAT, they are not my aesthetic choice, but have functional advantages. Still hard on the budget at $300+ each (not as bad as some wheels I have looked at... Have you priced Hutchenson DOT approved beadlocks lately??? ) Size wise, the 285 are better in loose sand because they have better flotation, while the 255s are better in snow as they dig down better. In mud, the narrower tires are a mixed bag depending on the trail conditions. If it is mud on a firm bottom, the 255 has the advantage, but if it is mud that has been churned deep they will not help you at all. On rock, it is mixed, but the wider tires will often help due to larger contact patch, but I have seen more wide tires die to side wall damage than I have seen skinnies. The 255s also win in fuel economy as they have 10" less width and a smaller contact patch. This can also be detrimental when stopping on wet roads. Since my useage profile is daily driver, overlander, and mild trail rider, they make sense for me. oh and you won't get a ticket for your tires sticking out too far unlike some 285s I have seen :D
@@mattlewandowski73 I too am going with the original OME lift, the BP-51 looks nice but I would do Fox/deaver if I wanted to spend that much. I do off-road my truck but it’s not often and it’s usually pretty slow and steady as I don’t want to tear up a brand new rig. I was looking into the 255’s primarily for the run that 285s have. I’m still unsure if I need the full 33 and might just go with a nice set of 265/75/16. The last overland trip I went on I was completely stock and my friends 19 TRD was stock except BFG all terrains in 265/75 and both of us had no real issues following friends that had 3-4” lifts and 33-35” tires on their jeeps. The biggest issue was clearance and break over on the steep trails, but with some spotting and good lines it was all doable. For being stock and completing the trail loop we did at AOAA I was sold that a 2” lift with even a 32”ish tire would make the Tacoma twice as good off-road. Thank you for the reply and sorry to hear about Covid affecting your business, a lot of that over the past year.
I had 265/75/16 KO2s and loved them and went 285s on my first gen Tundra. Now that I have a new 2023 on order I'm convinced that 275/70/17 is the unspoken hero and a great middle of the road tire. 🤙🤙 Beautiful truck!
One thing I looked at before I got my 285’s was the weight. I got a 285/70/17 ridge grappler in a Passenger load which is a 4ply Weighing 49lbs each vs a 10ply weighing much more. I strictly drive on road so I really only upgraded for looks.
Love the Method wheels, and the BFG tires look great. One thing that jumps out to me in the video is the hood gap at the right fender. I know the truck was hit so maybe that is a result of that damage. Then again maybe a little adjustment could make that look a little better. Not criticizing, just an observation. Keep doing what you’re doing! Enjoy the content.
@@subradiant_music my understanding is she bought the truck as a salvage title, so it was totaled and she repaired the damage to put it back on the road.
Huuummmmm? Makes me wonder about changing 285's I have a manual tire changer from HF Lifting 265/65/17 is about my nice limit Have 285/75/16 as well on a tacoma with 3 inch lift
I upgraded to 285/75R16 a few months ago and it DEFFINANTLY impacted my mpg and power. Put on 33" Mickey thompson Baja Boss tires on Method 701s. Its a very heavy setup.
@@JC-wz9mc its complicated. Ive added more upgrades than just the tires both before and after the tires. At the time, I believe my MPG dropped from 18 to 15-16. That may also incorperate the lift added to accept those tires, (2.5" icon stage 2, with add a leaf in rear) or also by the extra weight of the baja boss tires themselves vs a lighter 33" tire.
@@jaranus597 that’s a nice lift! Thanks for the reply. I ordered 275’s and wish I had gone with a 285. It’s mostly a daily driver but love the look of the 285.
I love the 33's on my new Tacoma. However, its not just the size you have to be careful about but the load rating and weight too. Some mud tires will weigh 60 lbs or more at that same size and will be very loud on the highway.
Timely video! I get my Tacoma in the next few weeks. For now I'm thinking I'll go with 275's (Falken Wild Peak AT3W in C Load) to have a happy middle ground between on and off-road performance. That and I don't want to do a suspension lift until a little ways down the road. 🤔
Are you getting a Pro? Keep in mind the Pro is slightly lifted from the factory. Other factors include wheel width and offset. For non-Pro, 265/70/17 or 265/75/16 are typically the biggest you can get without making other changes.
I have the 22 trd off road im thinking about changing my rims and tires what will fit without doing a lot of cutting or will I need to do some cutting.
First video of yours I’ve seen. I lifted my ‘16 2” but stayed with the 265 KO2s and experienced a loss in gas mileage. Combined I’m around 17. Great info! Those C rated 285s are the lightest LTs I’ve seen. Definitely considering them! Thanks!!
If they suit you and they perform where you live that's awesome 👍 but personally, I wouldn't want to go wider than stock, not where I live with the terrain we have and especially not with the lil power that I have... I did go one inch taller though.
Excellent videos Cloe. Thanks very much. I’ve never owned one. But here at 61, I am about to get in my very own 2022 Tacoma Trail edition. Ordered it back in October 2021, and am expecting delivery of it in about two to three weeks, fingers crossed . I am sure I’ll be installing wing-mirror turn signals and the license plate glare reduction tabs. Excellent videos. Please keep up the good work. Thanks again.
I have 285 ko2 tires on my 2018 trd off road and I get roughly 16mpg in city and 18-19 on highway, it’s not the worst but it does make a bigger difference in the amount of power you feel you get, I am looking to get a tuner to make it feel like I’m getting somewhat the same power and see if it helps my mpg a little
Thanks for this informative video. Believe I might settle in the happy medium of 275s for when I upgrade tire size. So I am assuming that with a 2" lift in the front and 1" in the rear - there should be no rubbing issues?
Not C-Load rated but when I searched around the 2 lightest tires I found in the 285/75/16 size are the Bridgestone AT Revos and the Firestone Destination ATs . Both weigh in at 51lbs, the same as those C-Load BFGs.
Chloe, watch a video of a semi tire being changed. Big burly mechanics I've known use a crow/pry bar to prop the tire up onto the axle, then use the bar to spin the tire to align the lugs - all while sitting on a mechanic's roller stool. Also, I didn't know Method had that bead 'locking' tech. To be clear, that's a stock TRD Pro suspension with a preload collar alone + zero offset wheels?? I'll look back through your vids for other suspension upgrades on this truck just in case. Thanks so much for giving a clear, articulate rundown on all this stuff - that's the ivy coming out. ;)
Great video, Chloe. Curious as to whether your spare is also a 285, and if so, does it fit in the spare location ok? Also, just ordered some parts from Sparks and used your discount code. Thanks!
285 do not fit from what ive read before(without modification). You have to take a big hammer and bend the metal retainers out some and I think some possible issues with being to close to the exhaust.
I upgraded my 21' Taco TRD Off-Road 4x4 with a 20"x9" inch Fuel wheel with the 275x55x20 KO2's by BF Goodrich on a 3" Rough Country lift with the Vertex adjustable coil overs on the front & the Vertex adjustable shocks on the rear with the 2" lift heavy duty Old Man Emu leaf springs & I don't really hear an excessively loud road noise while driving. I installed the EVC Ultimate 9 throttle controller & I don't have any problem accelerating with the oversized tires especially when it set on U9. My gas mileage on the other hand is another thing, I get around 11mpg in the city & a combined of 14mpg as of the last tank of gas I used, but the look is amazing. I have done a lot of extra mods that I probably would not have thought of if it weren't for Chloe's channel. Thank you Chloe & keep up the good work.
I run 285 70 R 17 KO2s on my 21 Offroad. Made it a little bit doggy and downshift more My speedo also reads under by about 3mph. I changed to TRDPro wheels because I hated the 16" wheels that came with it. Makes the lifted Tacoma look much better.
