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What water heater should I buy? - Pro Grade vs. Box Store 

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In this video, we delve into the age-old debate: Are water heaters from box stores truly the same as those from professional plumbing supply stores? To find out, we conducted a comprehensive comparison. We purchased an AO Smith water heater from a professional plumbing supply store and another from a box store, and then we meticulously examined each component, weighing them, and noting any differences.
Our journey began in Kansas City, where we obtained the AO Smith Pro Grade Heater from a plumbing supply store and enjoyed some famous barbecue. Next, we headed to Lowe's Home Improvement Store for the box store version, encountering some filming challenges due to store policies.
As we dissected the units, we discovered significant disparities. Despite claims that they are identical, our analysis revealed distinct variations in materials and construction. For instance, the pro-grade unit consistently weighed more, indicating potentially stronger materials. We observed differences in drain valves, control covers, burner assemblies, and more.
One notable finding was the presence of a metal cap on the back of the control valve in the box store unit, a feature previously absent and associated with frequent failures in older models. This change suggests manufacturers have made improvements, likely due to previous issues with box store units.
We examine the control valves, noting a slight difference in weight that indicates potential variations in internal components. Despite looking similar, these small differences can impact performance and longevity. We then move on to the anode rod, a crucial component for protecting the tank from corrosion. The pro-grade unit features a wider anode rod with a weld spot, indicating a magnesium material, known for better corrosion is protection compared to the aluminum rod in the box store unit.
Next, we weigh the empty tanks, revealing a substantial nine-pound difference between the two. While this might seem insignificant, it represents a significant percentage of the total weight and hints at the sturdier construction of the pro-grade unit.
To put their durability to the test, we pressurize both tanks until one fails. Despite exceeding their rated pressure, the pro-grade unit fails first, but in a controlled manner, with a weld seam cracking. On the other hand, the box store unit swells and eventually pops, indicating a potentially more dangerous failure mode due to the compromised glass lining.
Overall, this experiment highlights the importance of choosing a quality water heater, as the differences in construction can significantly impact performance and longevity. While box store units may offer cost savings upfront, the potential for early failure and safety concerns make professional-grade units a more reliable choice for long-term use.
If you're interested in learning more about the differences between these water heaters, including a detailed examination of their components and failure modes, watch the full video for a comprehensive analysis.
As always, thanks for watching! We aim to bring you plumbing videos in a way you’ve never seen before.
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@jamesladeroute6127
@jamesladeroute6127 2 месяца назад
The hole on the burner is to prevent condensation from accumulating on top the burner and snuffing out the flame when the burner is on in a cold tank. It also prevents rust on the burner.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
Best explanation I've heard so far!
@alanlofts1653
@alanlofts1653 2 месяца назад
This a great video from a retired plumber thanks for doing it safe travels
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
Glad you enjoyed it
@louisstennes3
@louisstennes3 23 дня назад
I needed a new 50gal tank and my plumber said he uses the pro grade A.O.Smith but if I wanted I could go to Lowes and buy one of there (Rheem, store brand , etc.) units and he would charge me the labor. I opted for the pro grade because if something went wrong under warranty I would have to handle it with Lowes but if it went wrong with the unit he put in, he would take care of it. Made it a very easy decision, Excellent installation.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 23 дня назад
Love it!
@h2oquality2010
@h2oquality2010 2 месяца назад
Very detailed and informative! I appreciate your effort. Probably explains why my Proline Plus Nautilus by American Water Heaters installed in 1992 is still working!!!
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
Exactly!
@weing
@weing 2 месяца назад
Good to hear. The proline plus Nautilus installed when I bought my house in '93 crapped out all over my laundry room floor after seven years.
@h2oquality2010
@h2oquality2010 Месяц назад
@@weing :( I'm sorry to hear that. Maybe I just got lucky with this. Not sure.
@MaMa-qh4dy
@MaMa-qh4dy 2 месяца назад
FANTASTIC job. That took a lot of hard work. Thank you.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
Thank you very much!
@andrewclarke6802
@andrewclarke6802 2 месяца назад
I experienced a box store vs. buying from a local shop when buying my lawn tractor. I bought a Husqvarna lawn tractor from Home Depot. It has had nothing but issues, and it only has 17 hours on it. I took it in for service to a Husqvarna dealer, and he was showing me major differences between his that he sold and the one I bought from Home Depot. Same models. So I sold the one I bought from Home Depot and paid the additional 280 dollar differences, and I'm telling you there are no comparisons between the 2 Lawn tractors..
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
Yep!
@dubmob151
@dubmob151 Месяц назад
How major were the differences ?
@MichelleKirkwood-kd7lq
@MichelleKirkwood-kd7lq Месяц назад
Agreed, but if you know anything about small engines, stick to Scag/Kubota/Exmark, etc. You rarely see landscapers use any of the junk Craftsman, Husqvarna, even Toro, they all use the same low quality parts and transmission.
@--harry_
@--harry_ 25 дней назад
The John Deere mowers from home Depot are crap. 2 years the transmission failed 5 years the motor failed. The John Deere store said the home Depot ones are crap.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 25 дней назад
@@--harry_ yep!
@Lewisvandervalk
@Lewisvandervalk 2 месяца назад
I didn't think an hour long video on plumbing would be as informative as this turned out to be. Great work guys. This is going to save a lot of people money and time if they pay attention. Tldr: dont buy box store water heaters.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
Thank you!
@johnlandacre767
@johnlandacre767 18 дней назад
Good info. But for the life of me, I can’t understand why every maker of RU-vid videos feels we must have mindless, repetitive “music” overtop of the narration. It serves no purpose, and gets to be very annoying after a few minutes. I guess everyone thinks it sounds more “professional.” At a minimum, it shouldn’t be as loud, imo.
@ProGodLifeGun
@ProGodLifeGun 2 месяца назад
Awesome video! Thanks for sharing. Now I have a strong selling point for pro grade tanks.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
Love to hear it!
@pville5548
@pville5548 20 дней назад
Your video showed up on my feed and was of interest to me as I just had a 5 year old Rheem water heater spring a leak. Damn plastic drain valve gave up the ghost. When it's time to replace, I will only go with a pro grade replacement. Your video taught me the difference between the two as I leaned toward made on the same line with different stickers. Thank you so much. Oh, and paying my plumber for his expertise saved me more as I would have replaced the drain valve with another plastic valve, and he instead put in a brass ball valve. Home owners don't know what they don't know. Smiles.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 20 дней назад
Thanks!
@dustmaker1000
@dustmaker1000 2 месяца назад
Great timing. I’m a home handyman and planning on replacing my 10 years old 50 gal tank. Thanks for the info
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
Glad to help!
@dushooter
@dushooter Месяц назад
Excellent video. Learned so much and now know what to look for on quality.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing Месяц назад
Glad it was helpful!
@number1pappy
@number1pappy 23 дня назад
Thanks for this video. I myself have had debates with people over the difference in quality between box stores and supply houses. However, the biggest issue for the home owner is not the couple of hundred dollar difference between the two. It's the 100 % markup in price that a plumber charges the homeowner. This doubles the price to the homeowner.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 23 дня назад
Good work isn't cheap. Cheap work isn't good.
@TheOriginalLugnuts
@TheOriginalLugnuts 23 дня назад
@@SmedleyPlumbing just because someone is a “professional” doesn’t mean they do good work. My old water heater was installed by a “professional” (tag on the unit) and it was a hack job. I’m nervous about working on gas lines so when I remodeled my kitchen I had a plumber move my gas line and saw all my plumbing work under the sink and said my work was great and moving the gas line was easier then what I had done and I could have done it just fine.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 23 дня назад
@@TheOriginalLugnuts some people are definitely more capable than others that's for sure.
@jayabraham4377
@jayabraham4377 13 дней назад
A homeowner can certainly go to your local plumbing store and buy a pro grade unit and install it yourself.
@Rossm812
@Rossm812 9 дней назад
​@jayabraham4377 maybe. Some of them are trade only. Around home for me, they all are.
@Lewisvandervalk
@Lewisvandervalk 2 месяца назад
You guys put awesome effort into this. Love it
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@Sleepyplumbr
@Sleepyplumbr 2 месяца назад
Great video! I am stoked to bring some light to my customers about our units vs box store units 🤙
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
That is awesome!
@Dadoffourplusone
@Dadoffourplusone 15 дней назад
Great video. Thanks for being so thorough.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 15 дней назад
Thanks!
@DG8RS
@DG8RS 5 дней назад
2006 AO Smith Commercial water heater owner checking in here 😄. I've had it in the budget for the last 5 years to replace it, but the damn thing just won't die. I only had to replace the burner about 5 years ago (which is what made me start thinking I needed a replacement). I've also never drained the thing and it still pumps out some scalding hot water. I'm scared to replace it at this point because I KNOW I'll never get 18 years out of whatever I replace it with 😆. Thanks for the great video!
@user-mk8qr3lg1c
@user-mk8qr3lg1c Месяц назад
One of the best educational videos on RU-vid. Earned a sub. Look forward to learning more.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing Месяц назад
Welcome aboard!
@charitykennedy4020
@charitykennedy4020 Месяц назад
Agreed!
@Splungers
@Splungers 16 дней назад
As a 69 year old retired Plumbing contractor, it was great to see the things I learned about box store crap -tested and explained. Faucets, fixtures ,everything at the box stores is made to a price point. Back in the day I could dismantle 2 identical Delta 100 kitchen faucets-same part number, same packaging, and the internal components would differ a lot. Plastic control ball/valve vs stainless steel, stainless liners vs none where the packing/seals traveled, rubber composition of those seals different,etc. It's deceptive at best. Like you ,I did not wish to waste time replacing inferior parts. You get what you pay for.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 15 дней назад
Yes you do!
@leonardpearce4512
@leonardpearce4512 Месяц назад
Great video, very informative. Thank you for sharing.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing Месяц назад
Glad it was helpful!
@jonathanstephens543
@jonathanstephens543 2 месяца назад
Great and insightful video!
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@user-yc6qh1mt6j
@user-yc6qh1mt6j 2 месяца назад
Thank you. Very informative 👍
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
You are welcome!
@robertburns236
@robertburns236 2 месяца назад
dude this video totally helped the plumbing community
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
That's why we do it!
@robertburns236
@robertburns236 2 месяца назад
@@SmedleyPlumbing yeah dude that’s so awesome. I know it was probably expensive to make the video. Totally respect you guys. i watched a few commercials on purpose so hopefully it helps recoup some of your funds. I’ve recently started listening to The Void podcast as well. You guys have great advice, very entertaining, and it’s definitely helped me as an employee of a company producing more sales.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
@@robertburns236 thanks man!
@porknbeans7420
@porknbeans7420 3 дня назад
Hands-down one of the best comparison videos I've ever seen! This is great info!!
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 3 дня назад
Glad it was helpful!
@raybradley4939
@raybradley4939 Месяц назад
Fixin to buy one thanks for the info outstanding job
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing Месяц назад
Glad to help!
@andygulick6085
@andygulick6085 Месяц назад
My supply house sent us to the AO Smith / State water heater manufacturing facility outside of Nashville. Which is massive. AO Smith / State owns the company that makes ALL the components for their water heaters. I asked this very question " what is the difference between pro and box store?" answer; The box store units are made in a different facility, in a different state with out sourced parts. They also have a different glass liners. Drop the Mic!
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing Месяц назад
Yep!
@JimDean002
@JimDean002 29 дней назад
A hardware store here has a display. They've got two Weber grills side by side. One they went and bought at Walmart, The other is the grade they sell. They've done the same thing you did. The first thing is how different the thickness of the sheet metal is. The one they sell weighs around 7 lb more if I remember correctly. Thicker steel on the side sticker burner heavier frame the works.
@FPSG
@FPSG 11 дней назад
​@@SmedleyPlumbing great video. What is the warranty on the pro model? At the box store I can get a 6y 9y 12y or a lifetime warranty. Is it possible that the pro model is the same as the box store 9y or 12y?
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 11 дней назад
@@FPSG pro models only have a 6 year warranty. But they're likely to make it there too.
@FPSG
@FPSG 11 дней назад
@@SmedleyPlumbing thanks. That was all I wasn't clear on. The tank on my 30 year old Montgomery ward 300 started leaking 2 weeks ago. They used to last forever.
@jackblack9830
@jackblack9830 Месяц назад
Finally someone proving what I have been saying I only buy from supply houses Its a big investment an extra 100 150 10 yrs or 20 years Aggravation and cost every 10 or 20 I'll take a little more for a lot more years EVERY TIME Thanks for this video
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing Месяц назад
Good stuff!
@AaronV.-bi7jo
@AaronV.-bi7jo 2 месяца назад
Good stuff! Great job 👍 They have a different tank lining also.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
Yes they do
@Clmkxoxo
@Clmkxoxo 11 дней назад
This was amazing !! Thank you so much for sharing !!!
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 11 дней назад
You are so welcome!
@joehrlein847
@joehrlein847 2 месяца назад
Rheem has two lines of gas tank water heaters, Performance which can be purchased at HD and like the one we have, a Professional model that was installed by a HVAC/Plumbing company. Also in the USA (not the world) there are other water heater manufactures like Haier who makes GE, Bosch, Rinnai (Japanese brand) plant in Georgia. Thanks for the comparison. You learn something everyday.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
Yes we might do the Rheem line next!
@GraingerProductions
@GraingerProductions 22 дня назад
@@SmedleyPlumbing I’d like to see the Rheem line. After watching your video, I researched the box store 50 gallon Rheem electric I bought at Home Depot. It does have a brass drain valve and magnesium anode rod, but I’m guessing they’ve cut some corners somewhere, and I’d like to know where. I’m just a homeowner and didn’t realize the quality would be different based on where I bought until watching your video. I hope this one lasts, but now I know for the future.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 22 дня назад
@@GraingerProductions we considered that. But Rheem changes the name of their pro line to Ruud. So people works likely think they are two different heaters. That's why we did the AO vs. AO.
@davidweber6024
@davidweber6024 4 дня назад
There is is also HTP as well
@robertthomas5906
@robertthomas5906 2 месяца назад
Thanks! I have a bunch of rentals that have gas water heaters. Coming up on 60 year old houses. I thought it was just Lowes. I bought a Kenmore heater and it's still in service. Not a moment's trouble. I bought a Lowes and I almost knew the repairman by his first name. Lots of trouble with the gas burner, control, and pressure valve. I bought a Home Depot unit for another house and it's also still in service. While it has never had a service call, it's tough to get it to fire up. I'll have to look up how long they've been in service. One I think is at 15 years. Probably time. I have a supply house near me. Great guys.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
Thanks!
@Duganoz
@Duganoz 2 месяца назад
Great job. Definitely a difference with the tank quality.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
I think so too!
@mnmn1665
@mnmn1665 29 дней назад
Excellent. Thanks. The same rule of thumb goes for fixtures.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 29 дней назад
Yes it does!
@billytolliver
@billytolliver 2 месяца назад
That was awesome!
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
Glad you liked it!
@that1redhairedguy
@that1redhairedguy 18 часов назад
I have always heard they were the same too. All the water heaters I have replaced (not a plumber) and I always bought the box store version thinking I was getting the best bang for my buck. Thanks for this video! Very informative and I know to go pro grade next time.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 16 часов назад
You're very welcome!
@chrisnapolski1181
@chrisnapolski1181 15 дней назад
Awesome video, thank you.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 15 дней назад
Our pleasure!
@alberthartl8885
@alberthartl8885 2 месяца назад
I have been a general contractor for 33 years. I have only installed 3 tank water heaters in the last 20 years on my projects. Have installed over 100 Noritz tankless units. We had one heat exchanger leak in that time period. We had a replacement part from Noritz in 48 hours. (Was still under warranty)
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
Installed properly, and tankless units are pretty awesome.
@giovannicampos7462
@giovannicampos7462 2 месяца назад
Having a tank water heater in your home gives you access to 50 gallons or more of potable water in case of an emergency. Unless you're short on space, most plumbers I know prefer a tank unit.
@psdaengr911
@psdaengr911 Месяц назад
@@giovannicampos7462 If you need an emergency water supply it's less expensive to install a"tempering" tank and a smaller high efficiency demand heater. Cheaper still is a supply of 1 gallon water jugs. Plumbers get paid by the hour. They make more money from servicing and replacing tank units than from less frequent work on higher quality, more expensive and durable demand units. Auto mechanics and dealers have similar attitudes about preferring ICE cars that have more mechanical maintenance needs ta BEVs. The newer tech has different support needs.
@67daltonknox
@67daltonknox 16 дней назад
I live in a hard water area. A tankless heater requires servicing annually to prevent lime blockage. The cost of this removes any financial advantage in using tankless.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 16 дней назад
@@67daltonknox Yeah we never pushed tankless for a financial advantage. Yeah they save a little bit of energy but they're added initial upfront cost in their added maintenance costs offset any energy savings. So literally the only reason we ever push tankless is for people that need endless hot water.
@danielbones7250
@danielbones7250 15 дней назад
Great video. I’m a 71 year old retired plumber and would only suggest a little more personal protection when pumping up those lines at high pressure. When I was starting as a teen with my dad, construction plumbers were still using flares for sealing gas leaks in newly finished buildings. Very dangerous as there were plumbers that were injured doing so.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 15 дней назад
Hydro testing is actually very safe as long as steam is not involved.
@keovongvilaykeo4799
@keovongvilaykeo4799 2 месяца назад
Wow great thank you now I know where to purchase my water heater 😊
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
Exactly!
@LatitudeSky
@LatitudeSky Месяц назад
The trick is that supply houses often won't sell to consumers. Buddy of mine needed a furnace relay and Winnelson would not sell him one because he wasn't a contractor. He was a trained tech in a related field working in million-dollar machines that have their own HVAC systems. But they wouldn't sell him the part. He had to get one off ebay or something. Supply houses can be very strict.
@michaelbinder8208
@michaelbinder8208 2 месяца назад
Wonderful video!
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
Thank you very much!
@ScottMcFarlane-xn5oj
@ScottMcFarlane-xn5oj 2 месяца назад
What an awesome video! What product comparison box vs. pro grade is next? Thanks so much for your support of the Spirit of Opportunity and your local supply house at Kansas City Winnelson!
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
Who knows what we'll test next!
@ironqqq
@ironqqq 20 дней назад
I have a lot issue with comments that they are not from the same assembly line. I think those people are not familiar woth factory operations. Both water heaters are likely from the same assembly line but are assembled using different components. It would not make a lot of sense to have an extra assembly line to build a mere identical water heater unless you needed a sexond or third line to meet capacity. Very likely no difference in tooling would be needed building both 40 gal water heaters. Using the same assembly line they could possibly build 40, 50, 60 gal water heaters on the same line, needing only various different tooling. The video proves that different components are utilized in pro vs box store water heaters, but this hardly proves they are using different assembly lines. As a analogy if you buy a car.. call its a Chevy Cruise, GM would not have different assembly lines for each trim level. Rather the components to be assembled would vary depending on which particular trim, car, color they would be building at a time. If one looks at videos online, a car manufacturer may build a $20k base model and next on the the might be $40k top of the line trim. All the same assembly line, but just various models or trims. I expect AO Smith to be doing exactly the same.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 20 дней назад
You're exactly right. Problem is that most people don't understand that the same assembly line will produce different heaters.
@tinscarecrow21
@tinscarecrow21 11 дней назад
​@@SmedleyPlumbingA.O. Smith owns a few water heater factories. You can look up where each is made on the paperwork (sometimes the stickers will say, too).
@kevinc8387
@kevinc8387 4 дня назад
Just found your channel. I enjoyed the episode, very informative. Well made video. Knowing that the manufacturer improved the parts going in the pro grade makes it more justified to spend the extra money. Seeing the difference really helps. Thanks
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 4 дня назад
Thanks!
@pipi7731
@pipi7731 День назад
Thanks. Good video and a lot of information.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing День назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@Chris_In_Texas
@Chris_In_Texas 2 месяца назад
31:08 Great video, but I do have to give you a little bit of a hard time. The reason the socket got stuck was because it was a non impact rated socket and a 12 point. 🤠👍 Oh yeah, Texas BBQ.... 💯 😁
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
Yeah I like to break things. Lol. Texas BBQ isn't bad either!
@Lewisvandervalk
@Lewisvandervalk 2 месяца назад
Mitch getting shocked deserves a like and subscribe for sure
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
Little booger caught me by surprise! Lol
@tonyplumbob
@tonyplumbob Месяц назад
Great video well done,i learn a lot that i didn't know.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing Месяц назад
Glad it was helpful!
@jcaleca60
@jcaleca60 Месяц назад
They put a lot of money and time in to this video great job guys 😊
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing Месяц назад
Thanks!
@shopart1488
@shopart1488 2 месяца назад
My box store heater had a control box fail so I called the 800 number and got the run around for 1-3/4 hours. Finley I hung up and called the manufacturer and ask for the COO with in 5 minutes I was told I would have my part with in 24 hours delivered next day air.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
We hear that all the time.
@jcaleca60
@jcaleca60 Месяц назад
What is coo 🤔
@wisdomrules8474
@wisdomrules8474 28 дней назад
​@@jcaleca60 Maybe "Chief Operating Officer"?
@Luv2camp316
@Luv2camp316 22 дня назад
Great video. It put to bed a lot of myths about what you get. The sad part is the DIYer who did one water heater in his life will tell you they are still the same. Just like the sales person at the box store. Keep making the videos but we know some folks will still deny the facts to hold to their errant opinion. A certain comedian hit it on the head when he said “you can’t fix stupid”
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 22 дня назад
Very true!
@charitykennedy4020
@charitykennedy4020 Месяц назад
This video is really excellent. It is the video I was looking for with a detailed comparison. I’m a quality engineer married to a general contractor and evaluating our cost of materials. I wanted to understand if we are really getting better quality components at plumbing supply stores. Thanks so much!! Subscribing!
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing Месяц назад
Thanks!
@michelemarch8270
@michelemarch8270 Месяц назад
Thank You!
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing Месяц назад
You're welcome!
@neuralglitch9063
@neuralglitch9063 2 месяца назад
Bought a GE 30 gal electric from Home Depot 20 years ago, and the thermostat just failed this week. I figure 20 years was great service and it's time to retire the entire unit. I can do the job in an hour, milking it. Sadly, Home Depot no longer carries GE, so I'm gonna go with the AO Smith from Lowes this time. I was worried about the quality, but your video just convinced me that it would do the job just fine. Nothing personal, and I know everybody's gotta eat, but a licensed plumber would want $1500+ to do that job for me. Great video, and I thank you, even if it probably had the opposite effect you were hoping for. $900 per hour is more than anyone "needs" to make.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
Gotta do what you gotta do!
@joeyyc8515
@joeyyc8515 2 месяца назад
I usually charge pretty high, but $1,500 isn't bad for a 30 gal
@neuralglitch9063
@neuralglitch9063 Месяц назад
@@joeyyc8515, Hey I get it...but I can do the work myself so paying anything seems silly to me. Others aren't as fortunate and for them, I would recommend a good plumber for many reasons. So glad I didn't toss the old GE after all that though.....turns out the circuit breaker had an intermittent failure and once I replaced it......nice hot water. 😁 Tank looks good enough to go another 10 years easy and now I have an extra thermo. It may outlive me 🤣
@frederickneal4781
@frederickneal4781 Месяц назад
I've got a 20 year old GE WATER Heater that I bought from Home Depot in 2004. It's electric and is still working just fine without any problems. It was made by Rheem.
@NurseAcrobat
@NurseAcrobat 28 дней назад
If you keep the anode in good enough shape to prevent too much corrosion, either by adding a powered anode or replacing the disposable one every few years, a tank can go almost indefinitely aside from an occasional cheap element or thermostat replacement. You could likely replace the thermostat yourself for under $100. I replaced one of the elements and the anode on my now 25 year old water heater last year and plan on replacing the drain valve next time I flush it.
@fortunatedad7695
@fortunatedad7695 2 месяца назад
Thanks for doing this test! Kinda worries me that the T and P valve didn't release the pressure as thats it only reason for existence lol
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
We plugged the T&P port on both to focus the test on the tank only.
@fortunatedad7695
@fortunatedad7695 2 месяца назад
@SmedleyPlumbing ohh ok. Sorry I must have fast forwarded that part. You like to live dangerously haha
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
@@fortunatedad7695 there's an element of safety that comes with compressed water versus compressed air.
@tunafish3216
@tunafish3216 6 дней назад
What a great video, some good information.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 6 дней назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@shaner.5
@shaner.5 2 месяца назад
I think you should have weighed the tanks at the end without any insulation on them. Just to give an example of the thickness of the metal or how many pounds of that difference was the actual tank/glass thickness. Overall great video. Lots of good information. Get the camera, man a gimbal.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
Thanks for the tip
@noworriesmate5903
@noworriesmate5903 2 месяца назад
There are differences as you have shown. With that said, I have a 32 year old water heater from Lowe's. Water quality and maintenance have more to do with long-term use.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
You probably have lower water pressure as well.
@user-ii2nl4dj8t
@user-ii2nl4dj8t 9 дней назад
Thanks very informative
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 9 дней назад
Glad it was helpful!
@ehRalph
@ehRalph 2 месяца назад
As a DIYer you have me looking for an upgrade kit for my box store water heater - so far I’ve sourced a better brass release valve and anode rod and I’ll probably just strap a bunch of hose clamps around the tank to keep it from puffing out. 😮😊
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
Ha! Or just buy a pro grade tank from a professional plumbing supplier.
@Majeskty
@Majeskty 2 месяца назад
Realized after watching a video on Anode Rod’s and the need to replace them 3-5 years. I had never replaced my water heater rod and so did some more research and ended up going with an electric protection anode rod. I have replaced it already however what is your take on these type of anode rod replacements? Even one plumber store talked to using this type of anode rode if they did the project. I did replace the anode rod myself and from various video’s, I used a 1/2 inch impact socket and impact wrench. Purchased a Ryobi 1/2 inch impact wrench and sockets on sale and it worked like a charm. The anode rod was on very tight over the 10+ years not replaced. Took a few attempts with the impact wrench but it broke it loose and I had may be 6-8 inches left (wish I could attach a photo), it did its job for sacrificing but was due for replacement. Now I used the impact wrench so I didn’t mess up the water lines or twist the water tank by using a breaker bar, definitely the impact wrench was a good choice. Nice video produced!!
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
Thanks!
@kqschwarz
@kqschwarz 2 месяца назад
Fabulous video, but I can not believe that you ran the pressure test with the tanks right next to the pickup truck. I understand they had water in them, but still you were using a gas to pressurize them. One of the reasons the pro one might have failed first is if there was some leak in the box store version. Even though they were fed by the same pipe, resistance in the pipe might have resulted in a lower effective pressure in the box store tank, especially with all the distortion in the pipes you observed.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
Yeah one swelled while the other cracked a weld. I would much rather a tank crack a weld than swell and burst.
@mikelipp8188
@mikelipp8188 2 месяца назад
Excellent video, as always. Confirmed alot of what I suspected. Tell Austin he did a good job on the editing as well.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
Thanks! Will do!
@peterwachter7753
@peterwachter7753 Месяц назад
Thanks!
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing Месяц назад
Thanks!
@BC-sk3bp
@BC-sk3bp 2 месяца назад
I used to plumb in cali.. bradford white best stuff 👌
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
At least they stay out of the box stores.
@ssrrocks22
@ssrrocks22 22 дня назад
I hate to burst anyone's bubble on pro grade or Lowe's grade water heaters. I have now had 3, yes 3 so-called pro grade water heaters in a rental I own. The first one cost me over $2381.00. Why? Well, the plumber said he needed to completely replace all the old lines and install a $ 258.00 expansion tank. I discovered he never pulled a permit that the city requires. That cost me another $ 321.00 above the original cost. One year and a few weeks after the first pro-grade water heater it started leaking from the bottom. I called him out to replace it. Low and behold, yeah its done. Labor to replace said water heater with a 15 year warranty was $ 938.00. 341 days later the new one was leaking. Called Mr. Yoyo again. Yep water is leaking. He said he would only charge me for his time to get a new one. The bill was only $ 692.00. Guess what, the new one after 6 months is leaking again. I called Home Depot this time. Replacement was $ 1081.53 including labor and a 25 year warranty on the tank. Oh, the so called pro grade water heater. According to the manufacturer is no different from the home depot model except the warranty...
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 22 дня назад
Sounds like your previous plumbing was missing some water pressure issues causing premature tank failure. Excessive water pressure will shorten the life of any tank.
@actionjksn
@actionjksn 2 дня назад
I do general home improvement and repairs, including water heaters and I get them from the big box stores. I haven't had any problems with them, but I still totally believe what he is saying about these things. My 1999 home still has the original gas water heater and it still works just fine, i have had a new one sitting right next to it for when it fails and it's been sitting there ready to go for well over 10 years. I think I'll wait a bit longer...
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 дня назад
Long live the pre 2000's heater!
@sanitarytechnician92
@sanitarytechnician92 2 месяца назад
Very nice video
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
Thanks
@Chevytech1977
@Chevytech1977 2 месяца назад
There are more than three companies that make tank hot water heaters. GSW is a big name in Canada. Located in Fergus, Ontario. Been in business for 150 years
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
Residential units?
@JK-qe6qq
@JK-qe6qq 2 месяца назад
GE and American Standard makes water heaters
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
@@JK-qe6qq Rheem makes both GE heaters and American Standard heaters.
@williamreaves7486
@williamreaves7486 14 дней назад
years ago I used to be a Lowe's plumber contractor and their only selling point was their credit card and you could finance it
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 14 дней назад
Yep!
@StewSegura
@StewSegura 7 дней назад
what a cool video. thanks
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 7 дней назад
Our pleasure Stew!😜
@mitchellbarnow1709
@mitchellbarnow1709 25 дней назад
I worked for plumbing wholesale distributors and residential water heaters were always sold below cost because huge rebates were a big part of of the game. It’s like the franchised auto/truck dealership showing you their “invoice” and claiming that they are losing money, but they are definitely making some money.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 25 дней назад
Yep!
@johnhaller5851
@johnhaller5851 21 день назад
The expansion tank is only really needed if the supply has a backflow preventer. If one is turning off the water supply, a faucet hot water valve can be opened to prevent positive or negative pressure in the water tank. Commercial properties are more likely to have a backflow preventer on the building supply, but irrigation water generally needs a backflow preventer valve. More jurisdictions are adding requirements for backflow preventers for residential properties, and they definitely need an expansion tank. But, not everyone needs one.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 21 день назад
Code requires them on all applications now since the presence of a backflow preventer is more likely than not.
@homesteadhaven2010
@homesteadhaven2010 11 дней назад
​@SmedleyPlumbing not true at all. Not all codes are the same. I'm on a well and don't need one. And I would fire any plumber that tried to sell me one.
@johnhaller5851
@johnhaller5851 11 дней назад
@@SmedleyPlumbing Code only requires it on closed systems. The EPA has required water systems protect from backflow contamination. My city only requires backflow prevention on commercial/industrial buildings, and residential irrigation systems, not on the residential supply. Hose bibs must have anti siphon devices. To assume all water systems are closed is just putting additional expenses to avoid the need to determine if it is a closed system. Perhaps the AHJs in areas you serve require that expansion tank everywhere, maybe they plan to require new backflow preventers, but those would be an expense which the homeowners would need to pay. In northern climates, it would make more sense to put the backflow preventer indoors for easy servicing. In areas with no frost line, they can be put slightly underground in an irrigation box. In either case, it's relatively easy to determine if one exists.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 11 дней назад
@@homesteadhaven2010 It is true. The code requires a thermal expansion tank when the conditions for thermal expansion are present. With you being on a well then you are not required to have a thermal expansion tank because your well bladder tank serves as a thermal expansion tank as well.
@timcoughlin4998
@timcoughlin4998 2 месяца назад
It's just like tires. The same exact model at WM has less plys than at a tire shop. If you look close, long number for the model is different but the big text is the same.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
Yep
@noexcuses6727
@noexcuses6727 10 дней назад
Very nice Thanks
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 10 дней назад
Most welcome
@markmonroe7330
@markmonroe7330 2 месяца назад
Excellent presentation. Thank you. Love these types of comparisons. That said, they both look like nice units. It is nice to see that if you spend more for the Pro-Grade unit that you do get some upgrades. The Box Store units can be much more affordable especially if you have a veterans discount at the Box Store not to mention the savings if you install it yourself. This reminds me of comparing Toyota and Lexus - are they both the same basic vehicle made by the same company - yes, absolutely. Are they both a quality product - yes, absolutely. Is the Lexus "nicer" with some enhanced features if you have the extra money to spend - yes. Will the Toyota work and be a quality product if that is what your budget allows - certainly. Does a serviceman selling and installing equipment always want to maximize the sale and reduce service calls over the lifetime of a project - certainly.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
Great points!
@JLLG2
@JLLG2 2 месяца назад
Thank you for the video! Any opinions on electric anode rods? I am in Michigan, have city water, have a softner, on my 5th water tank in 20 years. I have come to conclusion that my anode rod needs servicing more often but no contractor locally has ever suggested this as a preventative maintenance step. I had had 2 ao smith, ge and bradford white. Only the ge was "box store".
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
On theory, electric anode rods work well. I haven't seen a correlation between electrin anodes and longer tank life though.
@JLLG2
@JLLG2 2 месяца назад
@@SmedleyPlumbing any direct experience with the corro protect? My mom had well water with the really bad sulfur bacteria smell, the corro protect solve that in 24 hours. I just wish I could find evidence to see if Corro protect does well in the long run. And works well with softened water.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
@@JLLG2 honestly never heard of it
@georgedoolittle7574
@georgedoolittle7574 2 месяца назад
​@@JLLG2sulfer smell at high temp that goes away is a bad sacrificial(zinc?) anode hence the term "sacrificial." Might have an inferior anode product tho so maybe a "pro grade" anode tho.
@RuossFamilyAdventures
@RuossFamilyAdventures 2 месяца назад
Also, I noticed that the energy efficient is different from one heater to the other one was 300 and another one was 200. I noticed that right off the bat when you talk about the heaters.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
Yeah those numbers are very inaccurate. They guess at your energy rates and your usage. We never trust those.
@SparkyRF
@SparkyRF 2 месяца назад
@@SmedleyPlumbing I thought those numbers were "normalized" ??? Otherwise, they would be useless? I agree with the OP that those look like subtly different water heaters! I would be curious to see a close-up of both stickers?
@christopherhaas5848
@christopherhaas5848 6 дней назад
The Plant in Johnson City manufactured most of the retail product uses pre-cut and pre-cleaned steel. They had a better glass lining process so they could use thinner steel. Each plant has different tooling, there are lots of differences in the product from one plant to the other, like the watts vs. cash acme vendor. I worked as a sales manager in wholesale for A.O.Smith/State for 20 years.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 6 дней назад
And I have no doubt that you know that their intentionally selecting cheaper materials to use on the box store models. Which would be why we as professional plumbers see box store heaters failing much faster and much more often than any professionally purchased heater.
@thewaterheaterfactory
@thewaterheaterfactory 2 месяца назад
Fun Video ! Try a Hydrostatic Pressure Test next time , I use that method to test tanks for leaks!! Its cheap and easy !
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
I'm listening....
@dogdooley4495
@dogdooley4495 2 месяца назад
Sure, the pro grade should be better, but as long as your relief valve is working properly, it'll never see that kind of pressure. I also notice Lowe's sells different AO Smith 40 gal tanks with 6, 9, or 12 year warranties. I wonder if the 12 year Lowe's heater is the same as the pro grade.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
Relief valves fail closed all the time. It's a very common issue we see. Also, the thinner metal shows wear and stress much sooner. That's why we see so many box store tanks fail within a few years.
@davidconnors8830
@davidconnors8830 2 месяца назад
Around 1990 the company I worked for asked Bradford White the difference between water heaters with different warranty lengths, their answer was the price difference represented the increased cost of the longer warranty. No difference in construction. This was done to answer a customer question.
@harveypaxton1232
@harveypaxton1232 2 месяца назад
Pro grade is simply advertising logo for the wholesale house.
@TractorWrangler01
@TractorWrangler01 2 месяца назад
I wanted to see the inside of the tank and see what the steel gauge was.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
We talked about why we didn't do that towards the end.
@TractorWrangler01
@TractorWrangler01 2 месяца назад
Still wanted to see it. I wanted to see the internal build too. ​@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
@@TractorWrangler01 gives us something to do in a future video!
@joeglenn1480
@joeglenn1480 2 месяца назад
Had a home owner change out a gas water heater because it had water coming out of the bottom, it was in an open garage and it was just condensation not running water or leaking anywhere.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
Condensation can happen on the first burn or if the water heater is run completely out of hot water.
@NashvillePastaman
@NashvillePastaman 10 часов назад
Fun video!!
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 10 часов назад
Thanks!
@RCMServices
@RCMServices 2 месяца назад
The tank by itself are the same. The weight difference between the two stripped is the sheet metal outer case. The difference between the two is the quality of the components. The internal tank is the same across the line. A box store AO Smith comes in 3 models, 100, 300, 500. The tanks are all the same. What you are paying extra for is the warranty.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
I would have to disagree with you on that one. I think our video proves that as well.
@TOOLMAN4hvac
@TOOLMAN4hvac 2 месяца назад
Yep, if it's made by AO SMITH, all the tanks are identical! I went through AO SMITH’s three-day school (5 years ago) and the factory in Tennessee. I can personally verify that if it's different, it's in the controls, drain valve, and stickers. You should see how those tanks are handled after coming out of the “glass lining process”. It is amazing how much rough handling they take. I questioned the engineer about it, he said you can bounce the tank and still not crack that lining it's that tough. I never worried about dropping one off the tailgate again. Oh yeah, change the anode rod every year!
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
@@TOOLMAN4hvac our findings would indicate differently. Significant weight differences and performance differences.
@ElmwoodAl
@ElmwoodAl Месяц назад
​@@SmedleyPlumbingnot significant weight difference.
@ElmwoodAl
@ElmwoodAl Месяц назад
Aluminum is a superior anode. It lasts longer.
@raijin2774
@raijin2774 2 месяца назад
Energy guide are way different between the two Box store $227 and Pro $ 320. But box store saving you more money per year. Why?
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
The energy guide ratings are wildly inaccurate.
@notsure1872
@notsure1872 Месяц назад
That energy guide is the government lying to you.
@3OBTPA
@3OBTPA 4 дня назад
​@@notsure1872pretty much like everything else they tell you. :)
@kraftzion
@kraftzion 2 месяца назад
Good comparison. I will say the difference in the steel cover could be that one is shorter than the other. Takes a longer piece to follow the water heater than the gentle curve of the box store one.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
Yes. But they are indeed different.
@rickdiego5
@rickdiego5 Месяц назад
You had a problem with the anode rod because you should have used a 6-point socket.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing Месяц назад
It was also a chrome socket
@MIGHTYX2010
@MIGHTYX2010 2 месяца назад
So replace the drain valve and upgrade the anno rod if you want to magnesium. Come on not scientific enough You would have to weigh all of the phone that thin metal housing break it down to find out if there really is more weight in the metal if the metal is thicker and then it really comes down to the weld quality which as we can see in your video the pro grade weld went bad before the box store. So the conclusion is even if you have better materials it still comes down to human error or if they're using machines to do the welds comes down to human error on calibrating the machines. The only way to truly know is to have a running tally of maybe 5 years 10 years on failures of pro-grade versus box store. Then you will have some statistics. Good video good effort not enough for convincement 👍
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
As a plumber of over 20 years, we have the real life results to know that box store heaters don't last as long. This video shows why. The swollen tank told us more than anything else.
@walterbordett2023
@walterbordett2023 Месяц назад
On Thursday evening I was talking to a buddy that works for FW Webb and asked if they would sell me a heater, as I have a thirteen-year-old Bradford White 12 year warranty heater. Sunday morning, I have no hot water. Pilot is out and there is water leaking out of the bottom of the heater onto the basement floor. the plumbing distributers are all CLOSED on the weekend so off to the box store I go and buy the best grade 40 gallon natural gas direct vent heater that they have in stock because I don't want cold showers for at least a day. At the box store they help me get the heater into my compact car for the short ride home. My buddy helps me get it out of the car and down to the basement without damage to the heater or injury to us. Old guys rock! I was able to plumb up the copper, reassemble the gas pipe and install the flue tubing. The new heater was taller than the old one so that made the job easy. On the following Tuesday we scrapped the dud heater and bought a six pack with the proceeds and celebrated our work.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing Месяц назад
Congrats! Now you'll know how to do all that again in 5-6 years when the box store heater fails.
@robertschumacher472
@robertschumacher472 23 дня назад
Really enjoyed your video thanks for all of the good information . I like all the wonderful information on the comments about all of the differences.. that being said though I think the main thing that we have to look at and not go in the Weeds about is that when you pay more money you expect more for it and even though you pay more for it it isn't necessarily better. In general it used to be that the higher dollar item you bought it was a better product for more money. Today I would dispute that because it's not always the case and I think the buyer should be where and look around before they make any purchase and understand that the big box stores have to make money in some fashion and they make it by buying it in quantity and getting a contract for the cheapest possible one. When you're poor you got to buy the cheap one because that's all there's there that you can afford at best . Was very glad of you touching on the anode rod . I fit that exactly we just replaced a water heater and we are on a well and there must be some amount of sulfur and the magnesium rod in it is making the water stink like rotten eggs . And the same thing about it causing your warranty to be voided if you take the rod out so you're forced to live with the stinking water? That sucks as far as the Box Store is not letting people know about that. Thank you for everything
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 23 дня назад
Yeah when you don't have the funds, you gotta do what you need to to make it happen. But when you have the funds, it's always better to go with the pro grade.
@vernontoney4854
@vernontoney4854 2 месяца назад
The pro grade is rated at a higher btu
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
This is also true
@diytwoincollege7079
@diytwoincollege7079 2 месяца назад
Shame on the box store for selling crap. We expect it to be the same product. Especially if we can do the work ourselves.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
Maybe shame on us for expecting the same product......?
@ArthurDentZaphodBeeb
@ArthurDentZaphodBeeb Месяц назад
No different than buying stuff at 'outlet' stores - it's not the same as you find in their other stores.
@scottkasper6378
@scottkasper6378 Месяц назад
Buyer beware is the oldest rule in capitalism dude
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing Месяц назад
@@scottkasper6378 not sure I'm following you...?
@scottkasper6378
@scottkasper6378 Месяц назад
@@SmedleyPlumbing the commenter saying shame on box store for selling something different. Let the buyer beware is a fundamental rule. It’s on the buyer to find the best product
@GENjarrod
@GENjarrod 8 дней назад
Great video. The one thing I would have done differently would have been to pressure test each one separately. This way we could have seen at what pressure each one let loose. At 450 psi, the pro unit would have flooded my basement while the box store unit would have contained the pressure.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 8 дней назад
The box store unit started leaking first. And then when we push the pressure even higher the pro grade unit had a controlled failure that resulted in a leak large enough to stop the test. But ultimately the box store unit would have flooded a house before the pro grade unit.
@stephenleone2375
@stephenleone2375 6 дней назад
Around 2005 my father and I installed the best GE tank water heater the local Home Depot sold, marked the installation date on it, and two years later it started to leak. We were so annoyed that we had to do the job all over again and all that goes into wrestling it into a basement, moving things, disposing of the old one, etc. After that, we've never even looked at anything other than a water heater from a local plumbing supply house.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 6 дней назад
All too common unfortunately.
@defaultuserid1559
@defaultuserid1559 16 дней назад
Had a Woods that lasted 20+ years heating our iron-rich water. Replaced it with a Rheem from Home Depot that leaked after 2 years. Got a free replacement that lasted 3 years when it failed near the top of the tank which caused water to short out the thermostats which filled the house with smoke. I got another free replacement that's 2 years old now. I'm money ahead but I'll never buy another box store heater and probably will get something other than Rheem.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 15 дней назад
Yep!
@joewger
@joewger 10 дней назад
I've had good luck with the Bradford White hydrojets my plummer installed.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 10 дней назад
Bradford White makes a good heater.
@charitykennedy4020
@charitykennedy4020 Месяц назад
Please consider doing more comprehensive comparison videos of box store vs plumbing supply store for faucets, toilets, and shower trim using units from the same brand.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing Месяц назад
We totally will!
@keithadair1846
@keithadair1846 2 месяца назад
Love the shirt. Same goes with the faucets. Box stores use inferior materials.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 2 месяца назад
Thanks!
@grege9862
@grege9862 9 дней назад
My Rheem big box store heater finally gave up after 20 years of hazardous duty (rusty & limey well water), and I replaced it with another Rheem big box water heater so I didn't have to repipe anything. I'll be happy to get 20 years out of the new one.
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 9 дней назад
Good luck!
@tonyh8007
@tonyh8007 27 дней назад
How did it take so long for someone to finally come out with a clear and detailed comparison video?!? Thank you so much for taking the time and making the $ investment to review these products side by side. Fortunately I'm not in the market for a hot water heater, but now I see why pro grade is better. With that part settled... I'd be curious to see whats the difference between pro grade models. What makes a Bradford White so special?
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 27 дней назад
The biggest thing that makes Bradford so special is they don't distribute through box stores. Only professional plumbing supply stores for Bradford.
@happynurse8706
@happynurse8706 5 дней назад
I bought my water heater from Lowe's installed it myself got a Reem unit the top of the line that lowes offered total cost $840 parts for a simple installation of quick disconnect $30 it took me 3 hours to do the installation it's now been an operation 9 years Never failed the estimate from a plumber to do installation and supply a water heater was 2400
@SmedleyPlumbing
@SmedleyPlumbing 5 дней назад
Yeah it's always going by to be cheaper to diy anything.
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