What went wrong with Goldie Hawn and Melanie Griffith's Facelifts? 

First we'd have to live in a world where you can make everyone happy.

It's holly weird And media do this Women as well Stop listening to them

Amen…there’s three things we can’t avoid; taxes, getting old and death.

I stopped coloring my hair 6 years ago at 40. I'm going for it!

@@nicoleanthoine6046 As soon as I retire I’m going to go natural.

Only because as women we buy into the view men have of beauty and aging.

a lot of women let them self's go by the way they dress and body shapes I'm 66 and still wear nice clothes 32 in wast so mainly tight jeans you don't need a face lift just look after yourself and dress up

@@ponygirlusa the cosmetics industry too

Women aren't allowed to age like men. Can understand why women go to extreme's as sad as it is to feel the need to do so!

Greater comment, my mother was the same died at 93 looked good, fit, and worked hard. mum allways grew her own vegies to feed 5 kids her friends where the same. I think that's a important step in life . Anyway your comment was spot on Love Australia

Best comment I've seen. Bravo. How much more interesting when ppl are individuals and have depth to them 👏👏👍

Same here sis🎉🎉 It's not perfect but it's what I've got😅

You're beautiful!

They were young ! Hell yes they looked better . You really don't think they would still look as they did at 23 ?

I personally know a woman who has had 2 facelift’s… excellent results you would never know and she wasn’t done by a celebrity surgeon but facial plastic surgeon in the Midwest

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Right! 👐🏼 I truly believe the worse results these days are from all of the new fillers/additives. Those throw everything else out of balance & from then on its the whole chase of "let's tweak this so that isn't as noticeable.." which pushes some other feature out of alignment, so "let's try blah blah to fix that.." & on & on! Its sad.. the majority of them were drop dead gorgeous to begin with.. but can't keep well enough alone, so they destroy their beauty with each crap procedure. 😔

Exactly' The surgeon should be accused and go to jail.

@@mariaroncara2132 Melanie looked like she had her lips pulled out with one of those suction thingies that pulls dents out of your car. They both look appalling.

They often had more minor ones and did then younger as well.

Good point. Those two women have had totally botched procedures. 'Over-pulled' is an off the scale euphemism for what has happened to their faces.

Probably because our society has interwoven female beauty with relevance and value. It's even worse for celebrities, who's careers have some dependence on their looks.

@@raaid22 Aging must be devastating for celebrities and former beauty queens, having based their self image on their looks all their lives, hence, their desperation in fighting it.

@@Soapandwater6 I am sure it is, I think we should be a little kinder to these people. It's so easy to say they should have just aged naturally, but none of us know the stress, pressure, and struggle they deal with. Everyone is one different.

F you’re fine with it, don’t get one.

Really wisdom? LOL I guess I missed the boat on that one the older I get the more baffled I get my life . This stuff is crazy!

Marionette lines are from drooping cheeks, you needed a full face life

I'm there right now. My skin was luminous and I had high cheekbones, strong jaw, and loved my face. I remember thinking when I'm in my 30's I will get a facelift. 30's came, 40's came, 50's came still no wrinkles. Now I'm 61 and things have changed. Jawline isn't as firm anymore. I can't wear make up like I used to, I've to wear less. It's hard to not see that face you were in love with anymore in the mirror.

Thanks for sharing, you are right! If Goldie Hahn and Melanie Griffith can go so horribly wrong, why would the average person even THINK of trying it. I was going to get a broken nose fixed, but I think not. That $$ could be spent for a good cause. And besides, I don't want to end up with a turned up nose when it heals and retracts like my friend who had her broken nose fixed. (I'm OK except for some camera angles;, so I will deal w it!) Blessings.

Typical sales tactic. Leave the customer wanting more by fixing everything but what you asked to have fixed.

Not to be mean but beauty is only skin deep. You got what you wanted but in your case I guess the face lift didn't go well.. Some women think they are beautiful but in reality they have an ugly disposition..

Why are you here, then?

Gee Thomas, I could ask the same of you. But to be honest I like to be informed, don't you? ❤️

@@barbarabonnette2705 Yes, I do like to be informed - that's why I'm here, too. But I was surprised that you feel the need to drop in just to lecture strangers about your positive self-image. Good for you -but to just make others feel bad - not knowing them or their situations seems strange. All kinds of people have all kinds of reasons for electing to have procedures done - and not all of them are simple vanity or unwarranted fears of getting older. It can be a very difficult and life-changing decision.

Ha, Wow….aren’t you a bit sensitive. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 try to get over it, Thomas. I know I will.

@@barbarabonnette2705 No. I don't think so. But it's fine - think whatever you like. Sounds like you are the type to do nothing other than that

This 100%.

I have always agreed with this. Thats why I don't think that I would get anything done to my face. Just try chemical peels, maybe botox ( i don't like filler) filler says in the face and you look swollen.

I wonder how those celebrities feel about the outcome. They can't be happy. 🙄

YES. Well Said.

Well said!

I was thinking of that film too!

They should play that song "You Don't Own Me ! " on loud speakers in Texas! Right across from Gov.Abbots house! Maybe then he would get that message!

As I stated to someone else I personally know a woman who’s had 2 facelifts and you cannot tell it even if you know she had them done years apart in the Midwest

Here is another film, "Death Becomes Her." A magic potion for rejuvenation instead of plastic surgery.

I love that movie. Didn't she learn anything from it? Wasn't the message clear?

@@dragoncubes1074 🤣😂🤪👍

Pretty sure she was already one facelift in when that was filmed.

Yeah it makes no sense there's something else going on

You are probably naturally beautiful with your wonderful sense of humor 😃.

@@susanfrederick1805 My six-inch press-on toenails do leave scratches on the floor.

LOL

That's funny !

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These 2 women smoke alot too so it ages you way quicker

Is it true that the best kept secret in Hollywood is that Mae West was actually a man?

I am such Mae West fan thank you for sharing

@@vishyswa No. She was a woman. I saw her nude months before she died, she was suffering with some minor then major strokes and was cared for at home as long as possible.

I love Mae West!! Please tell us some stories! She was such an amazing lady!

Mae West was a real piece of Hollywood history

Who did you go to?

@@vmmurphy3918 Jim Carroway in Norfolk, Virginia. I lived in Virginia Beach. I believe he is with Hague Plastic Surgery now. He was with EVMS.

What you describe is a ''necklift,'' the stitches are behind your ears. I had it and now at 80 can see some neck cords forming. The whole episode ended up costing $7000--best surgeon (female), private room, etc. but best money ever spent. People who hadn't seen me recently never noticed and my ''ex'' was amazed that I 'still looked the same,' as he innocently put it.

PS I had the surgery at age 69.

All women who go for plastic surgery are narcissistic pathetic old women.

A class act!

He’s really great, informative but not at all catty or judgmental

Mature and professional :)

You make a very good point, he is very respectful to these ladies who were once the top of Hollywood. Do we respect them less because their faces changed? Did we only respect them before because of their faces? Hopefully not either. I always found Goldie to be such a cutie, it’s a shame her surgeons were not able to maintain that youthful naughtiness it used to have. We are not just our faces though, so it is so nice to hear him speak respectfully of them.

@@pennycandyys He also makes a good point that the way they look now is not the fault of the surgeons nor the actresses. They had the initial work done many years ago when surgical techniques were not as advanced. You then spend the next decades playing catchup and doing repairs. That said, when you look at someone like Jane Fonda who started her plastic surgery journey around the same time as Hawn (both actresses coming into their own in the 1960's) it proves that there is something to be said for restraint by the patient. As well as taste level of the surgeon to know how much should be done at any one time.

If you live long enough, you're going to get old. That's the reality, so embrace the process and be grateful for the time. Many don't get to live a long life. I see gray hair, sagging skin, lines and wrinkles as badges of endurance and perseverance.

Probably not. We don't see people in the public eye age naturally, but most people don't retain their beauty at elderly ages. Think about how beautiful (atheistically) the elderly people you see in your own life are.

@@GenXsinglefree "Many don't get to live a long life" I live in Europe, and people here, are getting older and older, and I honestly think America has a serious problem with plastic surgery /botox /fillers =age discrimination like no other country, because I don't see women - or men here for that matter, looking weird at the age of 40 persuing eternal youth.. SMH

Well we’re all ok when young and we all age .. nothing can be done until they find a tablet we can swallow for eternal youth !!

@@raaid22 Actually, it's the general mindset of what truly is beautiful. Outward beauty is enhanced or lost by what's inside. How often have you been initially impressed with someone physically beautiful and then the sight of them is repulsive once you get to know them? Now the reverse. How often have you gotten to know someone plain or ugly by societal beauty standards, yet the site of that person warms your insides and brings an instant smile to your face? Beauty radiates from within no matter the age.

Pricilla Presley was a true victim of a botched cosmetic procedure. She erroneously got injected with medical grade silicone by a conman. Something that was supposed to ward off aging hindered her natural beauty. It was a sad occurrence & shouldn’t be mocked.

The only one that I can think of is Helen Mirren. Are there others?

@@annademo Meryl Streep and Kate Blanchett come to mind.

@@annademo Diane Keaton is another one.

All of these women have had procedures done. Maybe not plastic surgery but botox, fillers etc. The difference is that some of them know when to stop and /or can fight the people around them "suggesting" they do more. Meryl seems to only do them depending on the film she's doing . Helen has a few tight spots on her face. Kate definitely has tight spots. My biggest issue with this ...I get it...they're actors and everyone owns a 70 inch high def tv now and we all criticize every tiny thing....but ...BUT ...you're an actor and when your face doesn't move....you've just destroyed most of your performance. Nicole Kidman , her eyes shift and her mouth moves but nothing else does. It's just hard to watch . This pressue is starting to affect the men now too. I just hope the character actors can stay away from it. I remember reading an article about Mexican/Brazilian shows. They were having trouble casting women to play "grandma" cuz no one looks their age anymore.

I agree, D. White! I'm thinking particularly of the beautiful Theresa Wright.

Ppp

You can adjust the playback speed to slow a video

@@adminsdk Will do. Thanks for tip.

@@adminsdk you can also stop the video and then start it again when you want to

Also, the various image wipe sound effects are out of balance: they are louder than your voice, and really don’t add anything.

Desperate patients that are mentally unstable and have more than enough money (and are turned down by good surgeons who have their wits about them)

I dont understand how two women with so much money and the means to access any surgeon in the world picked someone who was less than the best in their craft. Research and asking to see pics of previous patients and looming at reviews is a start.

@@karylmorgan7320 Look at Priscilla Presley. She let some foreign doctor she met at a Botox party inject her gorgeous face with motor oil. I don’t think that doc was even licensed in the US.

Actually, they can use fillers in your hands.

yes!! if you dont take care of your skin what good is all that!!

I see a lot of sun damage in these women, especially Goldie Hawn. That's probably why they did such overdone tightening of the skin.

Hello how're you doing hope you're safe?

Not to mention, you can only have so many surgeries…

It looks like the same surgeon operated on these people. Find out who he/she is and avoid him

The men look worse.

Exactly. They don't look younger, they just look odd.

Jackie Onassis Kennedy was also a smoker! Her skin looked much better than Melanie and Goldie's!

HaHa I’m already there! Dibs it!

@@lisamarie15 same, queen

Me, too! I'd rather look old than old and strange.

I love it💕❤️🌙

ME TOO !!

I saw Cher in the last Mamma Mia film, she looks ok in photographs but when her face moved in the movie it was very strange

@@hmmcinerney she's 73 and for this age she looks great not just the face but also her body. she's a free spirit...determined to live well until the last moment.....

@@alanwisdom7777 Yes she’s amazing, a beautiful free spirit. I’m talking about her plastic surgery though.

Cher sported a deep tan through the late sixties, the seventies, and the eighties, also.

I know two women who I think are approaching or already 75. They're strong, smart, generous with their time, involved. They're not pretty, but the are beautiful.

I had to pause the video a couple of times to see the pics!

Agree 👍

I disagree. Just click pause on your screen. That’s what I do when I want to study a photo longer or read text on a video.

I went to a plastic surgeon for a mini face lift and told him I didnt want to look like I'm in a wind tunnel he says they dont pull the skin back anymore they have better technique

I have always thought the same thing, these people have the money for the best, what the heck

Agreed but how old is she...late 60 close to 70...they show bad paparazzi shots , bad angles, she has always had a crooked smile. I'm not saying that she hasn't had work but really give the woman a break...

I graduated from the same High School that Goldie did. Actually, I had the same Algebra teacher. He told us a few funny stories about her. She seems to have been a very nice person in high school! Edit: I surmise that Warren Beatty and Shirley McClean also graduated from Montgomery Blair as they also lived in Tacoma Park where Goldie and se eral of my friends hailed from. I us3d to take two buses from home (@ about3:45 to 4:00 in order to change in Langely Park and take another bus to the Rec Center in Tacoma Park for diving practice at least three days a week. After that, I took a school bus to school. After school, I worked at Dart Drug in Langely Park for 4-6 hourse several days a week. Good times!!

@@suenetteedwards5965 Goldie is from Maryland and that is where she was discovered.

@@TheDealvin I think she is 76, so you gave her a good compliment! She looks good, and I agree they are publishing bad shots of her. In one of those pictures, she looks beautiful and young!

@@suenetteedwards5965 Good story, Was this in California? Back when California was an oasis! I have always loved it there, but now, it is sad what is going on with your government! Newsome, ugh! My husband and I were in San Francisco last spring, and San Jose-stayed in a beautiful historic Hilton there, Hayes Mansion I think; so pretty. Went to Santa Cruz and stayed in Monterey, and my favorite-Carmel-so charming! Pebble Beach and Big Sur, loved, loved, loved. We had been to all of these many years ago, so it was fun to see them again. Carmel has grown a lot but is still very charming! Went to Hogs Breath again; it has changed so much, loved it. Clint Eastwood still owned it when we first went there. Anyway, loved your story; thanks for sharing!

Scub your face with a terry washcloth and then use amlactin 3 times a week. It’s cheap, and it works. Women are suckered into spending so much on products that are unnecessary.

And don't smoke! Definitely an age-accelerator!

Don't smoke or drink soda eat moderation portion of healthy meals drink lots of water keep hydrated

@@Tenebarum Q...what is...anlaptin??? I've never heard of it...

@@PlayMistie4Me Amlactin. It’s a skin care product. Good stuff.

Yes, also Melanie started with the facial plastic surgery when she was still very young. Way too early! I think that’s a big part of her problem! And, when she did get it done, it changed her whole look! I think it was not long after her movie “Working Girl”. That was a long time ago!

That's why you don't see them in movies anymore. They were both so pretty years ago and they ruined their looks with plastic surgery. Same with Meg Ryan.

@@lucy2014 Yes, all three were so pretty. I wonder what it must be like to look in the mirror now and to see what they see. It's impossible to know how they would have aged without any facial surgeries, but most certainly a lot better than they look now.

Honestly, if I were an agent in HOllywood and had young actresses I was dealing with, I'd be bringing this up over and over. It's much easier to not let your skin get damaged to begin with than it is to fix bad habits , sun damage etc. JLO is a good example. To my knowledge , she was never involved in drugs, smoking, and is fanatical about sun screen. As a result , her skin still looks good and the procedures she's had done aren't as noticeable. Sharon Stone is another one and Cindy Crawford.

They're still 2 Hollywood greats and a pair of cool girls. Both talented love both of them and their films. Sad the surgery but they're still great and goldie has a great family

There’s a balance. Nothing wrong with some surgery, but some of these people take it to the extreme.

I think dying young should be the privilege lol

They look like burn victims.

Yes, whatever they are doing they need to do less of it. Some look like muppet versions of themselves.

Almost all you tubers do this.

That’s my complaint too. I stopped even watching these videos because he only gives a split second, if that, to the pictures.

fair skinned living in a sunny area. tanning probably caught up with them.

@@dw3403 Yes both are very fair and likely tanned too much and many people our age did not use sunscreen when young ....the damage is cumulative and time caught up with them re the damage to the skin itself. Use sunscreen always on your hands and neck any exposed skin at all and use Retin A...

Damaged skin, drug and alcohol abuse, and years of smoking. Goldie was attractive before her lifestyle and PS caught up with her.

Some of them make a mess of their faces. They were originally quite beautiful and would have aged beautifully in my opinion, without surgery.

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@@janeyd5280 Yeah but if the aged naturally people would comment on them looking old like Paulina Porizcova

Unfortunately, they don't look the same as they did when they were young, they are FREAKING grossteque !!!

My mom passed at age 93. Her father was from Ukraine and her mother was from Poland when it was still East Prussia. Mom was beautiful and wasn't very wrinkled. Her skin looked really good.

A lot of Eastern Europeans are actually Nordic. I thought I was Eastern European but my DNA is ancient Nordic type. I am 68 with very few wrinkles. Your relatives may have Nordic DNA.

@@wms72 My grandparents were Lithuanian and mom & her siblings are first generation born in the U.S.

Exactly, she Acts being happy all the time, doesn't mean she really Is happy.

Charlotte Rampling has very, very hooded eyes, and they give her an amazing demeanor.

I love Charlotte Rampling!

@@purpurina5663 oh, I have very hooded eyes too! And I think she is awesome!

I absolutely agree!

Yes - that was so sad.

He must have not liked his good looks to begin with . after he finished with a late in life make over ,he did not even resemble His former self

Hello how're you doing hope you're safe?

I think Goldie will always be beautiful…she’s made me laugh and been a great actress all her life. Women are under such pressure to be ageless..I see many men that could be criticized for their looks!

Add Simon Powell to the list ...

Is the sun, alcohol and too much messing around with their faces!!

I am still not close to either of their ages, am only in my 40ies. but what i can really confirm from my personal experience.. skin health is a direct result of ones diet. What you put in your body it shows on the outside. Yeah maybe creams and all that stuff can do a little, but what you eat - it can do a looot! I feel even the sun causes less damage than bad food. I am living proof of that. My skin is so much better now than it was 10 years ago. Before I never ate healthy, now I do. Fresh produce, home cooked meals, good oils. Does wonders for your skin. I love laying out in the sun, used to do that before and still do that. But your skin will not get the same damage I feel if for example you drink some spinach juice before going out. It somehow is more protected from inside, like an invisible shield. The only area where I could visibly see sun damage is under my eyes as that skin is clearly very thin and more delicate. So I just put big sunglasses and everything is fine. I am a light skin central European female.

@@IloveCamels335 You don’t think sun damage has a big effect because of your environment. You’re in Central Europe and experience Fall & Winter seasons. What you’re saying doesn’t apply to people in the desert or tropical regions like the equator which receive the most sunlight throughout the year. If sun damage wasn’t a big deal, the melanin concentrations in people from those regions would reflect that but they don’t, because survival is the goal.

@@Joh-Zii Yes sun damage is real, am not saying it isn’t. Ideally one would take care of ones skin from all directions. But I love the sun and being on the beach or at the pool. For me I feel diet is the bigger factor, personally speaking. This is only for myself, in my experience, maybe others are different. As Long as i eat good my skin seems to be okay despite of sun exposure. And while I am European by birth i do not live there anymore, I have lived in hot climates over the last decades.

@@IloveCamels335 I agree with what you said about diet.....lifestyle is what ages you. Stay blessed🙏

@@IloveCamels335 I agree. Diet is extremely important for skin and health, also exercise and good posture, the latest trend (and a very good one!) is to work on your posture because actually the face structure is largely influenced by the body structure. I am following several people on Instagram who do body and face routines that have a natural but profound effect on your overall appearance. The problem is that most people don’t want to make the effort, it’s “easier” to go under the knife

It’s not sad..she’s in her 70s..we all looked great fourty years ago

@@MeadowDay It's sad that her face is ruined by plastic surgery. She doesn't look great for a woman in her 70's, she just looks weird there's nothing natural about it. More and more people in their 20's, 30's, 40' etc., overdo plastic surgery and botox/fillers, and they can't see it themselves, and they want more and more and end up looking like Jocelyn Wildenstein... SMH 🙄

European women seem much smarter about their skin care! American women are obsessed with looking like teenagers! Not to mention being as thin as a stick! Not very healthy! These "think ,skinny women" look old and they often have brittle bones !

Hello how're you doing hope you're safe?

She’s scary looking now.

They would have looked prettier if the surgeon did not FAIL!

The skill and judgement of the surgeon is key.

A facelift done discreetly and properly is a wonderful thing for many people. Their problem is overdoing all the fillers .

Are you suggesting that men don't utilize these procedures? If so, you would be wrong.

@Judy Miles...No I'm not. I'm well aware that men have procedures.

joan was right there with her though.

Poor Joan Rivers .she thought she was being a friend by saying " everyone knows we already have a transgender in the white house . its OK ! Apparently it wasn't OK .

Hello how're you doing hope you're safe?

Amen, sister!

I didn't know that she ever had any cosmetic surgery.

@@cynthiastanley35 She had a nose job and chin implant. I agree, amazing surgery. Whoever fit it was an absolute artist. The work didn’t change the planes of her face which were super light reflective.

@@Tenebarum You're right. Undetectable. Thanks for the info.🙂

@@cynthiastanley35 that's how good her doctor was, I mean her doctor was phenomenal.

@@Tenebarum she also had work done on her eyes, check out her before and afters.

42? You're a baby, try being 75!!

@@janparish8055 Okie dokie then 🤣

You not old......!

I didn’t look much different in my 40’s than I did in my 30’s. Really changed after 60 even though I take good care of myself.