What Went Wrong With Rodimus Prime 

Optimus wasn't just a father figure to the Autobots, there were kids like me that didn't have a father figure nor a decent moral compass to align to. I'm grateful to the writers who crafted Optimus to be who he was.

Optimus was Father figure. Rodimus was the Uncle that was not very much older than you so came off as a older brother. As for Ultra Magnus he was more of the Step Dad, the type you like and knows he not going to replace dad but will protect you anyway they can

It didn’t help the case for Rodimus that the quality of the cartoon took a serious nose dive after the movie. The art style, the writing and losing characters like OP, Megs and Screamer. It’s like taking the stars off your team and then expecting them to win the Super Bowl again.

Unfortunately, Rodimus suffers from the severe medical condition of “Not Being Optimus” A tragedy, really. He had such a life ahead of him.

optimus Prime said many things, and he didn't talk down to anyone, including his young viewers. 'Just remember hotshot, there's a thin line between being a hero, and being a memory', also the one you mention is your video, and countless others. Many of us remember Optimus, and for some good reasons. He was shown as being wise, strong, and big, but he never used his qualities badly. With the Dinobots he admitted that 'Even the wisest of man and machine can be an error.' As wise as he was, he never made himself to know all the answers, and shows that it's okay to make a mistake. Even in the first episodes we learn of compassion, when the mine explodes, he yells for Roller. Even in 'the secret of omega supreme' Optimus Prime listens to his friend, and appreciates what Omega is saying. Omega shares a story of his feelings and pain, and Optimus takes the time to hear it all. Optimus Prime might be a toy, but he is a character, through a cartoon, that influenced many of us when we were younger. I would say that is a pretty amazing gift, and Peter Cullen is the voice of that wisdom, friendship, and influence that many of us will remember, for decades.

Two things went wrong. 1. Optimus Prime was a beloved, iconic character from the start. I remember my mom crying in the theater when he died, along with all the kids, because she watched the show with me and he appealed to her. Hasbro simply did not realize the value of what they already had. As it turned out, they could keep selling Optimus Prime figures to new generations of kids. The franchise did need a refresh in 1986, but Optimus Prime was not one of the stale parts. Furthermore, his place nearly impossible to fill. 2. I appreciate the complex story arc they tried to give Rodimus, but it was exactly the wrong thing to replace Optimus with. Optimus Prime's self confidence and acceptance of the personal sacrifices he has to make for his duty are what make him so beloved. Ultra Magnus is the new embodiment of these traits, and he spends all of Season 3 propping Rodimus up until Optimus returns. As much as I like Rodimus's story arc as an adult, I didn't care for him as a kid, though I couldn't put my finger on why back then. I think now that he was simply lacking as a hero in my youthful eyes, and he ended up in the shadow of both Optimus Prime and Ultra Magnus. Peter Cullen was essentially correct in saying that Optimus Prime was the father figure and it would be a mistake to get rid of him. I do give Hasbro credit for bringing him back.

It’s pretty telling that the tv shows or even the movies since then never tried to replace Optimus with Rodimus. I think in the comics they tried something similar. But you’re right that Hot Rod’s story has potential, it just needs better writing.

Part of Optimus' appeal was Peter Cullen's voice acting. He made Optimus sound like a hero.

The thing about Optimus is that unlike Rodimus he was the leader the autobots looked up to even in other shows Prime, Armada, Animated, etc. the autobots look up at him as not only a signal of the cause but also the father of the group he helped and inspired both the audience and the characters in the show.

Ive wondered if Rodimus might have been more popular if Hot Rod had been introduced earlier as a character. Like if he'd been there during season 2...

It'd be great if they had Optimus show up as a vision from the Matrix whenever Rodimus was having doubts about himself. The point of the Matrix is that it passes the knowledge and wisdom of the previous Prime to the CURRENT Prime, and with Optimus constantly being there to help Rodimus along the way, he gets to be every bit as awesome as his predecessor, the audience still gets their Optimus fix, and it pushes the point that as long as we remember our loved ones, no one's ever really gone.

Both Rodimus Prime and Galvatron were poor replacements. Megatron was smart, cunning, and despite being evil, an incredibly good leader. He also had all of Cybertron backing him up. Galvatron was insane and all of the Decepticons were homeless, they no longer felt like a threat.

It was actually more Japan that swayed the series putting Ultra Magnus at the front. They absolutely ADORED him, from their own depictions of him to the toys as an aged veteran. It's why he took an even bigger front roll in the head masters series, they really do love him.

The backlash towards the killing of beloved characters in Transformers the movie was actually a very important lesson for companies of all kinds. it showed that consumers do indeed have emotional investments in product media, and that they are not soley fixated on the product itself. It is like an experiment, where the result set in stone an important lesson of what to not do and why. You see, the suits at Hasbro were completely disconnected, blinded by greed. They just assumed that Children(and anyone else who may have been viewing) were literally mindless, emotionless machines who are somehow unthinkingly obedient and have no emotional investment in anything at all, and will just buy a product because they are ordered to.(through the cartoon) People do not like something because they are ordered to(which is even more true today than back then) and they will not forget a beloved thing because they were told to. Hasbro completely underestimated the viewers, the consumers and the characters, being so blinded by greed that they saw everything as mere cogs in a machine that generates money. There is a psychological science behind consumerism and marketing.

Rodimus is the bright reflection to Starscream now that I think about it. Starscream is over eager to replace Megatron as the leader, and that makes him cocky, arrogant and reckless. He thinks that he knows everything. Rodimus is the exact opposite. Leadership was handed to him and he doesn’t want it, so that made him lack confidence in himself.He doesn’t believe that he’s knowledgeable enough to be qualified to Lead. The show should have played up the contrast between the two characters, it might have helped endear fans to Rodimus and flesh him out more.

Optimus's death aside, the movie otherwise showed Hot Rod to be resourceful, determined, passionate, and basically an unsung leader already. He really took charge as soon as he was separated from Ultra Magnus, and maintained that after they reunited. The show, on the other hand, made him out to be a piece of cardboard.

My main issue with Rodimus Prime wasn’t his self doubt as the leader it was the fact he never grew from it it was like his whole character arc for all of season 3 it was something he never grew up from.

A couple things that I would say that you might have missed. 1. I'm surprised that you didn't mention the problem with what Rodimus transforms into. He transforms into a futuristic Winnebago. With flames. Who the heck wanted to play with that? A. Futuristic Winnebago with flames and somehow a spoiler that's underneath the camper section. What the heck is that? Especially when compared to the ultimate symbol of the American driving experience, experience the 18-wheeler truck and trailer.

Optimus was just a better written leader.

Killing Optimus Prime is still one of the all-time worst corporate blunders, up there with New Coke. Optimus Prime was every kids second Dad during that time. My sister and I both cried when he died in the movie.

What I do appreciate about Rodimus is that he still had Ultra Magnus and Kup at his side; between the three of them they felt like one collective leader. Maybe I'm looking too deep into it, but that's what I saw and made me appreciate it.

One word...Confidence. Its hard to believe a leader who constantly doubts himself. Rodimus has what it takes. He just needs to believe it himself...more!!!

Rodimus was thrust into the leadership role but obviously preferred to be just normal character. He was jsut always second guessing his responsibilities as a prime and never embraced it.

We learned one thing from this. Optimus Prime is irreplaceable. Hasbro found out the hard way in 1986. You kind of feel bad for Rodimus because he’s following in the footsteps of arguably the most beloved animated character of that generation. When Hot Rod showed up in The Last Knight, the theater I was in….he was mercilessly booed! Goes to show how hated he really is.

The usual point of being the “chosen one” was supposed to imply an innate potential that would show through. Yes the character was rather wasted in the later seasons as the writers couldn’t reconcile the immaturity with growing up, which is a real shame as the character could have been used to show development into maturity for the kids watching. Hot Rod did show some potential in the movie when he wrangled the uncooperative Dinobots onto the shuttle and when he fought through underwater enemies to reach and repair Kup. But they didn’t use him properly, reverting to Optimus Prime in “The Return of Optimus Prime”, or “OK, we get it, you want Optimus back.” I also think they had similar problems with Galvatron, who went mad and lost all interest in the war, leaving Cyclonus and Scourge to run things.

I was always confused by Rodimus' vehicle mode. Was he supposed to be a Winnebago? Was he a dump truck?

Also, in the Japanese Headmaster season, Rodimus just quits. He decides to stop fighting, so he, Blur, and Kup just left. Arcee wanted to go, too, but Rodimus told her he couldn't let all the soldiers quit. However, he didn't leave the Matrix of Leadership behind. That's right, he quit fighting and took the Matrix of Leadership with him. That's why he has all the leadership qualifications of a used tea bag.

Good synopsis. We had a discussion about the parallels of Rodimus Prime and Lion-O. In both instances, these young characters were suddenly thrown into leadership, and leading adults, while still mentally being a child/teenager. Hot Rod became Rodimus within a minute from The Matrix, during a battle, and having to lead older "adult" team members. Rodimus has Magnus, Springer, and Kup as his older guides in decision making. Lion-O left Thundera as a child, and through a stasis pod accident, woke up as an adult, and leader of the ThunderCats. Lion-O had to go through trials to show that he could lead, while leaning on the guidance of Tigra, Panthro, and Cheetara as older team members. As a child, Rodimus wasn't cool like Optimus, but as an adult, there's a much greater appreciation towards his character, and towards the season that really tried to present mature content to children, like diving inside of Galvatrons mind.

It's simple: He's not a Prime despite what Hasbro wanted you to think

I will NEVER forgive them for killing off Optimus. It broke my heart as a kid.

I always really liked the idea of Rodimus Prime, to this day I am still bummed his story was not handled better.

I was 9, saw the movie, was devastated, and it pretty much killed my enthusiasm (and toy requests) for Transformers.

Honestly, as a super fan of Transformers as a child, I must say that Rodimus was a super disappointment... for no other reason than aesthetically he looked horrible with fruity colors. Not only that, but Optimus had a wickedly cool voice. Rodimus on the other hand sounded like my girlscout troop leader. Also, most Transformer fans were also huge Hot Wheels fans... what the heck was Rodimus supposed to be? He looked like a clunky moon vehicle whose design was inspired by an old style ambulance. How's that cool? Hasbro design team didn't know what they were doing. This switch ruined me at 10... Lol.

When you look back on it Ultra Magnus wasn't a very good "leader" throughout the '86 movie see the infamous "I can't deal with that now" line he gives. Then in season 3 of the show his character pulls a complete 180 and now all of a sudden he's showing that he should be the rightful leader instead of Hot Rod/Rodimus.

Rodimus was not Optimus reborn. Rodimus saying “transform and roll out” in no way suggested that. That was nothing more than Rodimus taking charge and honouring Optimus.

As a kid I wanted Ultra Magnus to be the new leader instead of Rodiums since Optimus Prime passed the matrix to Magnus anyway. Plus I believe that most fans would've accepted Magnus as the leader instead of Rodiums Prime, I know this for a fact cause a lot of my friends and other kids all said Magnus was the real leader. We all never accepted Rodiums and yes we blamed him for causing Optimus Prime's death so this why Rodiums was disliked.

I love Rodimus! He is a relatable character, in his first campaign, he got way more done as leader. Very underrated character?

Prime’s death was Hot Rod’s fault. Dude has guns on his arms. He could have destroyed the weapon from a distance and bolted but wanted to tackle Megatron instead. That was stupid.

Rodimus has room to grow and has the potential to be a good Leader like Optimus was he just as to try and not doubt him self tho it wasn't Hot Rods fault he was just trying to protect Optimus either way the results would be the same with out Hot Rod there Megatron would still went for the gun under the rock and shoot Optimus multiple times like he did

Rodimus should have been developed the way Optimus was in Transformers Animated.

He keeps forgetting he can fire lasers out of those things on his forearms.

In terms of shows i think superlink handled rodimus the best, very reminiscent of the comics and japanese g1 continuity where he goes off to space and becomes a high ranking commander thats actually really competent

It's the classic case of tearing down to build up. Had the show included hot rod from the outset, shown him admiring optimus and hinting at his own potential to be a leader, then given the torch with grace, Rodimus would have rightly earned his position as successor. Instead, he's introduced in the same movie Optimus dies in. We have hardly any time to get to know him, but we are expected to love and respect him just like Optimus. That's not how it works. There is a distinct impression he was just given the title of Prime's successor, which always feels cheap and unsatisfying versus organically developing him as a character. TL;DR, he didn't earn the title of Optimus' successor, it was just handed to him by the writers in the absolute worst way possible.

Optimus Prime was hands down the most loved character at the time. Kids, teens, and even adults looked up to him. Killing Optimus and just replacing him with a seemingly random character without giving the audience time to warm up to him was a disaster.

@4:33 I suspected that long ago. I also wonder if the ones who developed the Galvatron, toy and character, had any idea he was to be Megatron 2.0 🤔 And yeah Magnus did lead more missions than Rodimus. Oh and @5:32 don't forget what Rodimus says to Spike and Daniel in Dark Awakening, when Spike is concerned about running out of oxygen on that escape shuttle. Optimus would never say something like that, but I have grown to like Rodimus' sarcasm.

Of course, Hot Rod was DIRECTLY responsible for Optimus getting killed.

The biggest mistake is rather simple Optimus was at his Peak in popularity in the mid 80s, then Transformers The Movie came. Seeing Prime die, damaged the fandom of that Character and seeing Rodimus Prime at the end bothered a lot of kids at the time. Cause most kids like myself loved Optimus Prime, and to some kids he was looked at as a father figure, just how he reacts to many of his Autobots. Due to the backlash, it was the soul reason Return of Optimus Prime was made with 2 Parts. I stll remember that day seeing the first kind of hint of the two part series come on tv letting kids all over the world know Prime was coming back. I even remember recording it. As a kid I was super excited. I think if Optimus Prime was alive and stepped down and gave Hot Rod the Matrix it would not have had such a backlash.

❤❤❤ the artwork in the thumbnail!

What went wrong was that Rodimus Prime looked stupid, Optimus looked cool.

I think the voice also played a part. Optimus’s voice sounded like a leader

it also didn't help that when optimus was brought back as a zombie, rodimus went really hard trying to push the matrix back to him, even when other character said it was a bad idea. even zombie optimus himself said not to give him the matrix.

Simon Furman himself admitted to a fan he never liked Rodimus, and intentionally stuck it to him in his writing. James Roberts wrote the only decent Rodimus, because he was entirely unlike Rodimus. He was like an eccentric larger than life rock star who was completely ridiculous, yet made things happen.

I never liked that Rodimus Prime transformed into a station wagon😐

I like the fact that he lived in the shadow of a great leader and that he was young and immature.

Although, Rodimus Prime/Hot Rod is my favorite, I think rushing him to be the new leader in the cartoon movie was not a very bright idea.

My biggest issue with the deaths in that movie wasn't even that characters were killed. In a way, it gave the movie a lot more impact than the show, and accentuated its darker themes introduced by the film's main antagonist being a destroyer of literal worlds. My issue with the deaths was how they were handled, by which I mean how easily many of the characters were killed off. With everything they'd been through and endured not only throughout the series, but any battles prior to crash landing on Earth, their deaths felt incredibly forced and inconsistent with the world built around them. If they felt the need to kill off some characters for marketing then that's fine, but what I think they failed to do most was accomplish that in a believable way.

I have a different take on “what went wrong” What went wrong is that it’s very hard to replace the cast of everybody loves. Dukes of hazard tried to replace Bo and Luke Duke with Coy and Vance and the ratings went in the toilet. Three’s company also tried to replace Suzanne Sommers and that was another disaster. For me, I just grew up with the 1984/1985 line and refused to accept any replacements. Those characters were my heros and I saw the whole season 3 cast as a bunch of imposters Now as an adult I have a new appreciation for season 3 and the more sophisticated story lines, but 11 year old me just wasn’t having it.

Good breakdown, Greg. Personally, I thought Rodimus LOOKED cool. I was actually excited by the new futuristic setting of the post-movie Transformers series. As a child who loved all things sci-fi and “space opera,” I actually liked the new direction, despite missing some of the characters who had died. The problem with Rodimus, as you pointed out, was his unending self-doubt and ineffectiveness as a leader. It’s one thing to have doubt (in the beginning), but then rise to the occasion and become a true leader. People respect that. Boys, in particular, respect that. Boys do not respect CONSTANT self-pity and holding back as Ultra-Magnus basically does your job. If you constantly tell everyone, “I suck,” people will start to agree with you.

In a fanwork of mine, Rodimus is a Combiner, made up of Hotrod, Bumblebee, Mirage, Smokescreen, and, still haven't figured it out between Whirl and Jolt. They became Rodimus after they made contact with the Star Saber.

He got optimus killed... That's what

As a kid I didn't blame Hot Rod...ok maybe I did but not right away as at the tiem I was more shocked at what happened with Prime. My main concern is his character during the movie after Prime's death. From what I heard in the original scripts; Hot Rod would spend the movie feeling guilty for getting his leader killed despite no one blaming him for it but envetually he would forgive himself and acccept his new role as the leaer. But in the final product this is never shown, like as if he got over it waaaay too quickly. Making it look like he didn't really learn anything which made him unlikeable in my eyes. My mindest was "This guy got Prime killed and he's still being cocky and everything like nothing happened."

They should made a prequel on how Megatron defeated the Autobots.

Well, you didn't mention the biggest problem of Rodimus Prime - his design was ugly, especially his face. He looks good as Hot Rod but they completely destroy his face when they "upgrade" him as Prime.

Another issue with Rodimus is his character design was pretty generic for a transformer. There was nothing iconic about his look visually.

Rodimus never had a chance. First, most important, yes, I do believe most folks blame him for Optimus' death...as a kid I sure did. He had little confidence, yes, he was young, I get it, but it got really boring after a while, no real personality, he was dull, his vehicle mode was HORRIBLE. A flaming Winnebago? Ick, they should have kept him a sports car and made his thing speed and agility, not try to make him a physical powerhouse like Optimus. In the end, their desire for new toy sales is what killed the cartoon.

"The return of Optimus Prime" episode brought me and I'm sure everyone here to tears to see they're hero was back.

You cant replace Optimus with a mere no body....BumbleBee getting an a power upgrade be better suited vs some new booty hot rod

The idea behind Rodimus was that he was a reluctant leader. A young boy who was chosen to be the one. It’s a good concept. However, it might have been a bit much for American kids in the 80’s. Back then, all our heroes were strong and all but flawless. Dare I say the Rodimus arc was ahead of it’s time? I think that concept would work better today.

I loved rodimus prime. ok, yea got me. I loved hotrod. Kids just weren't ready for a change, but optumis shoes are really hard to fill

It would have worked better if at the beginning of the movie they revealed that Optimus was preparing Hot Rod to be his successor, then taking the burden of the Matrix when Optimus dies, having character development during the movie and then reviving Optimus as Power Master Optimus (or as Ultramagnus) for the final battle and defeating Unicron together. Then the cartoon would have continued with Rodimus acting as field commander while Optimus remains as the Autobot Leader (similar to Duke and Hawk in Gi Joe)

No wonder kids cried when Optimus died. Thankfully he came back to life

Amusingly, I think HotRod is probably the most Gen X hero in fiction for better or worst. (Followed by Danny Larusso and Johnny Lawrence of Karate Kid/Cobra Kai.) I imagine many of us relate to how for reasons we'd rather not voice. Having to follow up a legend who left us massive shoes that were impossible for us to fill is unenviable position.

I've been to the movie theater to see a lot of movies in my 45 years on Earth. However, I have only seen ONE movie when the supermajority of people in the theater were CRYING DURING the movie and CRYING AFTER the movie while leaving the theater. That ONE movie was Transformers: The Movie in 1986! The reasons why were because people knew Optimus Prime and thier other favorite Autobots were dead, along with the fact that Megatron and many favorite Decepticons such as Starscream, Shockwave, Thundercracker, Skywarp and others were all dead.

Nice vid , like seeing more transformers topics

They were never able to recapture Hotrod after the original show. Most of they time they didn't even try. They could have handled hkm differently and should have. To me Optimus Prime was always my favorite, however in the 1986 movie Hotrod/Rodimus did make me like the character. Now the try to push bumblebee like crazy and i could care less about him.

Robert Stack as Magnus was so great especially during Optimus Prime's death.

Wow. "Im so depressed, my planet is gone..." "Your planet sucked anyway, mines better." Damn Rodimus.

Optimus earned his post, and won our respect every time he lifted a finger, or said a word. Rodimus was just in the way at the right moment.

I liked Honest Trailers when the episode on TF: The Movie mentioned how Springer seemed like the coolest choice for the new leader. He had a sword and became a cool looking car.

The main problem with Rodimus was that his elevation to leader felt unearned. He wasn’t next in line in the chain of command, he wasn’t the surviving team member with the most experience, and he wasn’t the one everyone else turned to for guidance. He basically got the job because of luck. The matrix chose him and everyone else was expected to just go along with it. This is why people dislike royalty. Someone becomes king or queen not because they were chosen by the people, but because they were lucky enough to be born to the right parents.

What destroyed Rodimus was the Cartoon, the writers for it did the guy No favors. Kids were willing to give Rodimus a Chance but the way he was depicted in the Cartoon killed any chance of a Cool factor he could have had. First they transferred Arcee's affections to Springer thereby making him lose his Girl to a "lesser" dude (not good for popularity, kids actually pick up on that stuff) then they made him kind of a Jerk and Emo on top of it and had him not want the Job of being Leader (Something kids also don't like cause they want to see strong leader type characters). That killed my love of the character as a kid. This was actually done on purpose cause the plans for Optimus's revival were already in place so the "Fix" was in and they actively Sabotaged the guy cause they didn't want kids to get too attached to him. I had loved Hot Rod in the movie and I wanted him to do well as the new leader and the fact that he was never really given a chance irkes me.

I believe that if you want someone to replace Optimus prime then you need to show him actively mentoring them. If Optimus is a father figure of the autobots then he needs a pupil. Their training and lessons will prepare them for the day when it’s all on the line and they must become Prime, with us the audience and the rest of the autobots as witnesses,who would know it would happen one day. Since Rodimus was a new character for the 1986 movie, G1 never necessitated this and so later iterations didn’t either, but this is one way to reinvent Rodimus and make him the leader he was meant to be, along with any other prime past or present, you could tie it into the lore. Have it custom that a Prime takes a protege under his wing to prepare him for leadership.

5:27 What's funny is that in the comic Ultra Magnus and Galvatron have an intense rivalry to the point that in regeneration one the two fight to the death.

Let's say what went wrong is, we grew up with Optimus Prime. He became the literal John Wayne figure to us. Hot Rod wasn't introduced until the movie so there wasn't that attachment built up. If he would have been introduced in the second season I think it would have gone better

I think Rodimus should have stay hot rod as a second to command and Ultra Mag as the new leader i very like hot rod figure .But in the movie Mag always look super week and they change to plan and make hot rod a weird truck

The potential of Rodimus that you mentioned, was fulfilled (I felt) in the Marvel UK comics. So successfully that he became my favourite character in that series It dealt with his imposter syndrome in the early days of his leadership and how he overcame it through different challenges like defeating Unicron fir a second time and losing/regaining the Matrix from the Quintessons

Optimus Prime is not selling.-Hasbro........33 Years later.....Yeah, I am looking at the 30+ Various Optimus Prime...From Original Gen 1 in Box to LEGO OPTIMUS PRIME!

Hot Rod was effectively an OC that got introduced to most people in the movie, was shown to have been immature and not ready for anything at the start of the movie, and push into the leadership because he was in the right place at the right time. Had Hot Rod have been in the series since the start and was shown as growing over the time from the first season until the movie, then people might have actually been ok with him. But just having him show up like that and wasn't the way to go. The person who should have gotten the Matrix was Bumblebee.

Well Galvatron was no true replacement for " MIGHTY MEGATRON"!!!

This is what happens when you take a beloved character and kill him and replace him with another one for no reason other than to sell new toys. People didn't want a new character to replace Optimus Prime. They wanted new characters AND Optimus Prime. It's that simple.

Springer should have become the Leader of the Autobots 🔥 He was already a war vet ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-56UT066Q_vk.htmlsi=Nq0MABrcklpF6N2I

In season 3, both galvatron and rodimus were "new" leaders that needed guidance and advice. Galvatron was too crazy and needed cyclonus.

Prime transforms into a trailer truck, Rodimus transforms into a.... camper van

I did notice in the 3rd series characters like Springer actually called Rodimus' leadership into question, not afraid to make snide comments behind his back on occasion. This is something that was never seen when Optimus was in command.

FAILvatron was anothe FAIL boat that sailed with a wrong star, it wasn't a hand "tool" they turned him into a "whatever that is, IS NOT A CANON"... True Fans only accept Optimus Prime and Megatron as leaders of their respective sides for the G1 series...

One of the issues was that we never saw Optimus in his salad days, but only as a seasoned commander. So he was blown to mythic proportions by Rodimus. All things have a beginning. Rodimus worshiped an ideal more than reality. Magnus knew something of this and tried to tell him to trust himself.

I think people would have been OK, if they hadn't killed Optimus Prime and just had him upgraded to become Ultra Magnus.

The biggest cinematic blow to my childhood was the death of Optimus. What made it worse was his replacement was hot garbage. Optimus will always be my favorite Transformer.

I don't care what people say. I loved Rodimus Prime in the show. I think the point about his toy not being as good is the most valid point.

I loved the movie. Loved rodimus. Loved his arc. Loved the return of optimus prime. Season 3 is great.