It's not that God is thirsty for blood. That's one of these internet village atheist fantasies and caricatures. That shows they don't really know much of anything about the Bible and the Levitical sacrificial system. Check this out!
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G-d does multiple times mention the pleasure/satisfaction he gets from the smell and aroma of the offerings. Also he likes and dislikes certain types of incense. So it is not bloodthirst but thirst for the smell of good whole hog BBQ. (not hog but a sheep lol)
Maybe you should just read your Bible and study more before you make some errors in statements and start telling God what He should and shouldn’t be. Reminds me of when God asked Job if he was there when He lay the foundation… most of what we do not understand is because of our modern thinking. We must understand the Bible in context which is what Dr Heiser spent his life trying to teach. Let us keep studying and pray for wisdom.
@jennyclark6183 It's not trying to justify anything, it's an explanation of what the system was. And that system was actually an improvement over what many peoples were doing, sacrificing not just animals but people -- in fact there are texts from the ancient near east where a writer brags that his king sacrificed ten thousand bulls for just one festival (along with ten thousand rams), and some where a writer boasts that his king's victory was celebrated by sacrificing a thousand enemies. Leviticus reduces the sacrifices plus makes them more humane; the rules were that the animal shouldn't suffer, whereas in some peoples around them part of their ceremony was that the animals died in agony (which was somehow supposed to make their god happy). And don't forget Dr Heiser's conclusion!
@@valroniclehre193 We created the problem. Jesus offers the solution. And better yet, instead of us having to “buy” the solution, God paid for it for us. He chose to suffer and die for us even though he did no wrong. What a mighty King we serve who lays his life down for his enemies.
@@MapleBoarder78 we did not create the problem if anything God did by creating everything and he had perfect knowledge of what was gonna happen. Also its totally subjective that some one needs to die for someones sins muslims and jews have a totally different view not to mention other religions and all you can say is that theyre wrong based on your worldview
Yes. I came from practicing witchcraft and the occult - anyone who practices that stuff long enough begins to understand that there is a cost that must be paid for our workings and our actions in this existence. Understanding ritual magic helped me realize I need Jesus. God works in mysterious ways, all glory is His alone ❤️❤️❤️
Anytime I wanted to practice the occult I was warned that for every spell I did it will backfire and not only backfire but come back ten fold. So I stayed away from it in fear that i will be twice punished
@@noorzanayasmin7806 And it does actually seem commonly those who practice the occult look much older than their age they are aging faster and are more prone to having weird diseases on them or their family likely from such backfire.
The occult means the information that we are ignorant about because it is being covered up. It is cloaked or occulted. Being unknown, it is scary to us. There is much that we are ignorant of.
Thank you! All of Dr. Michael Heiser's lessons will be missed, I'm so glad we have these videos! May God rest his soul until The second coming. 🙌🏽 Glory be to God Almighty 🤲🏽🙏🏼
I just discovered Mr. Heiser's work a few weeks ago...bringing a different view of scripture that my spirit has been leading me to. (e.g. I've always questioned blood sacrifice).
@@1Cor13-13me too! I’ve always struggled with understanding why Jesus had to be sacrificed for our sins, which in turn made me question my salvation! This video came up on my search to understand blood sacrifice in the Old Testament because I think that once i understand this I will be able to make the connection to Jesus’s crucifixion for my sins. This video has made and explained the connection I’ve been seeking to understand, and I am so grateful! I’m sorry to learn that this pastor has since passed. Thank God for technology that will allow me to look for more of teachings
@@patrickmeyer2598 why do you conclude that? I'm searching for answers and every one I get either doesn't make even the most basic sense, or just confirms that God is a cosmic horror.
@@haitaelpastor976 Seems like no one has responded to you. If you want an honest answer no one can deny that yes horrific things have happened under God's watch and he has allowed these things or even at times has orchestrated them. These are realities we cannot escape whether we like it or not. However if he is the true one God or most high God of all creation and the words of the books in the bible are true about him then where does that leave us? The other thing is how good are we? We all have our own moral code it seems and we more so pick at the faults of others rather than our own. For centuries humans have been the common denominator for destruction on earth. So perhaps if He is not the true one God then it might be even scarier to think we are left at the mercy of.....ourselves. But again if your observation is true and there's no other perspective of objective then where does that leave us?
Dr Michael Heiser has left us with an amazing legacy. I started reading the Old Testament again and I battle to make sense of all the different sacrifices. This video clarified everything in 10 minutes! The Father knows our hearts! This is not the only video that clarified my confusion, but by far the best ❤
Thanks for discussing this topic! I really never understood it and how it came about as there is no lead in discussions in the bible but just a sudden shift to that being a thing. Thankful for Jesus taking this curse from us, God bless and hoping for your recovery soon, Dr. Michael Heiser 🙏❤
How can God be just and simply dismiss sin? He can't. If someone does not pay the penalty, then God is NOT just. But the good news is Jesus bore the wrath of God that we deserved (the penalty for sin) in order to satisfy God's justice. If he didn't, Romans 3:26 makes no sense. "...whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God's righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins. 26 It was to show his righteousness at the present time, SO THAT he might be JUST and the JUSTIFIER of the one who has faith in Jesus." (Romans 3:25-26)
@@greg7384" Jesus died for your sins? You sure you want that blood on your hands? How about you take responsibility for your own actions and stop trying to scapegoat him.
I like to think of this way. When Adam and Eve rebelled God took the skin of an animal to cover their shame. An animal was sacrificed. When Israelites entered Sacred Space the sacrifice was a reminder of the de-creation that was required to cover humanities shame ( guilty conscious) that resulted from our rebellion.
Rest In Peace Michael. Thank you so much. My belief in God is stronger for your work. Your books stand in my case in the place of those I read over and over.
I hope and pray that Michael is able to shrink that tumor in his pancreas. I do not know if the purpose was to shrink it by chemo, and possibly surgically remove it.Not quite sure, but he and his family will be in my 🙏 prayers! Stay strong, Michael! You are much , loved!🙂👌
This video is life changing for me. It answered the lingering question regarding why Jesus HAD to be sacrificed. My intellect was leading me to doubt. This vid clarified it so thoroughly! I’m so thankful for this revelation!
Other scholars exist, just so you are aware. Heiser's Fan Club seems to not be aware of this. It's no surprise. Heiser said a lot of things that A LOT of other scholars have been saying for years...but Heiser always seemed to spin it as if they were all his own ideas. Want to become celebrated and famous? Read things everyone in academia knows about and write to a popular-level audience like it's some new discovery. It's like rewriting Macbeth at a 5th grade level and having everyone think you're some kind of genius.
@@greg7384nah, he often said’ Mike never had an original idea’. I understand that other teachers may have similar material… but Dr. Heiser put it together in a way that made it accessible to average folks like myself. Whenever my faith is wavering/ challenged, I return to Heiser to get back on track- to overcome my own limits and see the big everything. I am left pleading for Christ’s return.
How can God be just and simply dismiss sin? He can't. If someone does not pay the penalty, then God is NOT just. But the good news is Jesus bore the wrath of God that we deserved (the penalty for sin) in order to satisfy God's justice. If he didn't, Romans 3:26 makes no sense. "...whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God's righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins. 26 It was to show his righteousness at the present time, SO THAT he might be JUST and the JUSTIFIER of the one who has faith in Jesus." (Romans 3:25-26)
@@coulterkel Well there's the hatred of your family and your friends and even yourself, in order to put jesus first. There's the myriad of hatreds performed over the centuries by christians with god as the stated motivation. The modern version being gay and trans. There's the generalized hatred of the "other" constantly reinforced through the bible. There's the hatred of all of humanity, assuming we all deserve to burn forever just for being born human. How long should I make the list? And no, its no excuse to say that there is some twisted interpretation, or pedantic rationale that makes any of this ok. We see it in the book. We see it in many people who do their best to follow the book. And we see the mechanisms that tie the two together. There's plenty of hatred in jesus.
@@coulterkel I'm aware of the excuses people make for these passages. I don't make them. I see that cultish patterns of separation that cut people off from their support groups and recognize the harm. Shame you can't. I'm sure you have box standard replies for everything obviously wrong with your religion. I have heard them. They don't make sense. They aren't real reasons. Usually its just another appeal to the unknown or a twist of interpretation that is convenient at the time. An interpretation that is happy to be changed the moment you want the book to say something else. It's dishonesty to protect dishonesty, and the world would be better off without. "and is worse than an unbeliever" Yea and you wonder why people like me feel threatened. You just look at it being horrible and corrupt, then pretend its not horrible and corrupt. Just blatant denial. Your sacred truth is a human lie.
@@coulterkel For some reason your anti trans comment is showing up in my feed but not here, so i can't read all of it. Id be happy to adress whatever you had to say about that as well. Maybe i can soften the hatred, but faith and hatred go hand in hand, and you seem very faithful.
And ask your opinion. Sorry I’m 90s tech minded. I hope your feeling better. You are my main source of such things thank you mike you marked my life. I thank you for the knowledge
Yehowah (Jehovah Latin) from the Northern Kingdom of Israel (Samaria/Bethel) is God the Father in the Holy Trinity. Not Yahweh the Canaanite god of metallurgy. You're reading the wrong recitation of Moses Book. You're not knowing the difference between good and evil.
Humans used to sacrifice other humans to gods, and often children. Even in the bible it talks of moloch and children being burned alive to him. It was a great advancement to move towards animal sacrifice. And it was an even great advancement to move further away from any sacrifices.
Early man was offering food to the gods at their shrines to gain favor but noticed after a while (generations) something was wrong bc they didn’t consume it. Their understanding of the gods evolved and they realized they weren’t in the shrines they were in another realm, in the heavens. They burned the food so it’s essence would rise up into their dwelling place. Man’s understanding of morality and God evolved further and they began to give sacrifices for the intent of being redeemed from their moral failings rather than just trying to gain favor yet still believing the gods/God wanted sacrifices but no longer believing they consumed the burnt offerings, it was more symbolic. Evolution continued and the prophets began to claim God didn’t even want sacrifices but he just wanted humans to conduct themselves morally but the problem was the sacrificial system was codified in their holy texts and can’t just be removed. Jesus enters scene and ends the sacrificial system by becoming and “fulfilling” the sacrificial system. Today we look back and try to make sense of why God ever needed or wanted sacrifices not understanding it was an ancient idea that evolved over time.
Thank you Dr Heiser for your Truthful Teaching and Research.. and presenting His Truth .. to His Children so we can better understand.. His Love and Justice .. 🤍🕊🤍
How can God be just and simply dismiss sin? He can't. If someone does not pay the penalty, then God is NOT just. But the good news is Jesus bore the wrath of God that we deserved (the penalty for sin) in order to satisfy God's justice. If he didn't, Romans 3:26 makes no sense. "...whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God's righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins. 26 It was to show his righteousness at the present time, SO THAT he might be JUST and the JUSTIFIER of the one who has faith in Jesus." (Romans 3:25-26)
Also, in most of these sacrifice situations most of the sacrifice animal was eaten! Some of it given to the priests/levites and the rest offered in the burnt offering.
This was true in such sacrifices across the board. This is how Constantine used Mithraism to draw in followers of Mithra. He tied it back to the concept of the Communion to draw in the Roman male population the same he used Isis to triangulate Mary to draw in the female population.
Of course they ate it, except of course for the blood which belongs to the Lord. You need to understand that the blood of all life belongs to the Lord, and must not be eaten but poured on the ground. And that is one law that carries into the New Testament even today.
No one ate the burnt offering. The priest ate a portion of some offerings but not the burnt offering. The offerer and friends and family could eat some offerings, but not all. For example, the priest eating part of a sin offering was like a righteous person ingesting the impurities of someone on a lower level of purity in order to elevate them. There are about 7 different types of offering. Each with its unique rituals, purpose and meaning.
@@joelhering3522 the blood is obviously at the heart of the new covenant. The choice fats relate to our inner desires. Jesus focused on the inner dimensions of the sacrifice in his teachings to us.
That was very clear and informative. I had, , like most, thought about the cost but not about the concept of "decreation." I'll be contemplating that for awhile. In terms of cost, I think of the hymn, "Jesus paid it all. All to Him I owe."
@@termination9353 I don't think any of that happened. At all. You can't verify anything of what any supposed gods like, love, hate, pay attention to, or even are.
@@valroniclehre193 you do not understand the culture, time, context that this book was began being written. The world around these people was filled with sacrifice, including human.
@@deborahgrantham7387 I appreciate the time in which this book is considered a moral guide. Namely now. These practices were and are, wrong. Also notice how your reply contrasts with the previous ones. It's almost as if there is no real message and any excuse will do, so long as you can keep pushing your fables onto other people.
@@termination9353 I disregard the religions that requires you to go to a priest, pope, prophet, or president to tell you what the Bible “ really “ says. When Jesus died, the curtain to the room that only the high priest could enter and only once a year was torn completely open. You are able to go to Your Creator yourself with the only intermediary being Jesus. Go back to the beginning of the Bible and learn what the priests are, learn what the meaning of the temple is. These things are repeated again and again through. The Bible says to work out your own salvation. Do not depend upon humans to feed you the correct answers. You will be mislead.
Thank you. The book are very precise about the slaughter of animals and who does it and when. I need to understand why the Creator, beyond time and space, Master of the Universe, needs the aroma of an offering. Thank you Jesus for what you did. Dr. Heiser explains what is up with these sacrifices.
I remain confused on one point: How does the death of an animal, one admittedly valuable to the owner, provide any relief from impurity and how can God find a burnt offering appealing (as in appetizing)? Doesn't that characteristic speak to the human appetites rather than the Divine? The sacrificial aspect mirrors idolatry and paganism, doesn't it?
I think you are right and that’s why he can speak for 10mn straight and not answer the question in a way that clearly makes sense of it. Feels like we are forcing a round peg in a square hole.
Thank you Dr. Michael, such things as animals being killed were what the enemy used to keep me away from God. Satan uses every trick to keep us from serving God.
This is interesting. I often wondered why religions across the world have this tradition of sacrifice. We have original Godly sacrifices and later we have fraudulent sacrifices dedicated to these 'gods'. Cain's sacrifice was unacceptable while Abel's was. Without the shedding of blood, there is no remission of sin. Creation and de-creation is new to me but it makes sense.
Vegetables and grain was also offered and acceptable in the Levitical system. It's not the shedding of blood that is needed, rather the application of it when it is an animal. Also, in the Bible it doesn't say that the substance of Cain's sacrifice was not good, but that he didn't offer it with the right heart. "If you do well, will you not be accepted?"
*You should read what Plato said about the sacrifices allegedly committed in what we call the 'Atlantean' civilization. It matches the sacrifices we see in Judaism completely.*
*Cain's sacrifice was unacceptable because the dis-obedience that preceded the sacrifice was transmuted to the sacrifice itself. The wrong sacrifice was the result of having the wrong heart.*
Because the religions of the world are products of the same creatures. The people who thought throwing virgins into volcanoes would change the weather are operating on the same intellectual level as the video here.
Isnt that kind of the same train of thought as someone would have justifying human sacrifice? Why is this so much better? Besides being offered to the correct God.. I cant wrap my brain around how to explain this to my kids.. 😔
Even after listening to this, I still do not understand why innocent animals God created, that do not and cannot even have the capability to sin but do feel pain and experience suffering and would have no sense of why they're being slaughtered (by the hundreds of thousands sometimes) at all, have their sacrifice be the way God decides to cleanse either us or the place of His earthly presence? It still seems wicked and barbaric. I am a believer just trying to understand the intricacies of these things, not a troll, by the way. Thanks for all your work.
Me too, I don't understand how people are able to murder other people who are innocent or steal from the others and cause so much suffering that hey commit suicide or even burn they own children. What is the blood of animals in comparison to such crimes? Animals are created for us, for our pleasure and food. When God takes away them from us, he essentially takes away our food and shows the people the consequence of their transgressions. Now they have to eat vegetables. The animals were very important at that time as the land of Israel is mostly desert, and loss of them was very painful for all. The rich were the ones who owned lots of animals. The loss of animals is an educational process. People, however, value animals too much, often more than they value people, but Jesus was ready to sacrifice two thousand pigs to save one man (the story with possessed man).
It makes perfect sense once you realize we had ignorant and superstitious ancestors. This guy tries to rationalize this primitive behaviour, that's why it's not making sense.
God is perfect and all His ways are right. He created all things and therefore gets to do with Him as He will. I don’t like it sometimes, either. But one day we will know even as we are fully known.
Scripture backs why carnal sacrifices were never any good, only Yeshuas body is good enough: Hebrews 10:3-10 But instead, those sacrifices actually reminded them of their sins year after year.For it is not possible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins.That is why, when Christ came into the world, he said to God, “You did not want animal sacrifices or sin offerings. But you have given me a body to offer.You were not pleased with burnt offerings or other offerings for sin.Then I said, ‘Look, I have come to do your will, O God- as is written about me in the Scriptures.’”First, Christ said, “You did not want animal sacrifices or sin offerings or burnt offerings or other offerings for sin, nor were you pleased with them” (though they are required by the law of Moses).For God’s will was for us to be made holy by the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ, once for all time. - 🙌🙏
@@termination9353 but the scriptures say it was YAHS plan: 1st Corinthians 1:23;25 So when we preach that Christ was crucified, the Jews are offended and the Gentiles say it’s all nonsense.This foolish plan of God is wiser than the wisest of human plans, and God’s weakness is stronger than the greatest of human strength. - John 10:17-18 “The Father loves me because I sacrifice my life so I may take it back again.No one can take my life from me. I sacrifice it voluntarily. For I have the authority to lay it down when I want to and also to take it up again. For this is what my Father has commanded.” - Even moses wanted to shed his blood for Israel according to torah but GOD denied his human sacrifice: Exodus 32:32-33 But now, if you will only forgive their sin-but if not, erase my name from the record you have written!”But the Lord replied to Moses, “No, I will erase the name of everyone who has sinned against me. - Gods plan was for Messiah to die and shed his blood: Isaiah 53:4-12 Yet it was our weaknesses he carried; it was our sorrows that weighed him down. And we thought his troubles were a punishment from God, a punishment for his own sins!But he was pierced for our rebellion, crushed for our sins. He was beaten so we could be whole. He was whipped so we could be healed.Unjustly condemned, he was led away. No one cared that he died without descendants, that his life was cut short in midstream. But he was struck down for the rebellion of my people.He had done no wrong and had never deceived anyone. But he was buried like a criminal; he was put in a rich man’s grave.But it was the (Lord’s good plan) to crush him and cause him grief. Yet when his life is made an offering for sin, he will have many descendants. He will enjoy a long life, and the (Lord ’s good plan) will prosper in his hands.When he sees all that is accomplished by his anguish, he will be satisfied. And because of his experience, my righteous servant will make it possible for many to be counted righteous, for he will bear all their sins.I will give him the honors of a victorious soldier, because he exposed himself to death. He was counted among the rebels. He bore the sins of many and interceded for rebels. - Luke 22:20 After supper he took another cup of wine and said, “This cup is the new covenant between God and his people-an agreement confirmed with my blood, which is poured out as a sacrifice for you. - Luke 24:44-46 Then he said, “When I was with you before, I told you that everything written about me in the law of Moses and the prophets and in the Psalms must be fulfilled.”Then he opened their minds to understand the Scriptures.And he said, “Yes, it was written long ago that the Messiah would suffer and die and rise from the dead on the third day. -
Where in the prophets does God tell us he himself will be the messiah and will be killed as a temple sacrifice to abolish sin once and for all? I'll wait. 😂😂😂
@@openigang OK: Daniel 9:24-26 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to (finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins,) and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the (Messiah) the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.And after threescore and two weeks shall (Messiah) be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. - Isaiah 53:10 But it was the Lord’s good plan to crush him and cause him grief. Yet when his life is made an (offering for sin), he will have many descendants. He will enjoy a long life, and the Lord ’s good plan will prosper in his hands. - Psalm 22:14;16;30-31 My life is poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint. My heart is like wax, melting within me.My enemies surround me like a pack of dogs; an evil gang closes in on me. They have (pierced my hands and feet).Our children will also serve him. Future generations will hear about the wonders of the Lord.His righteous acts will be told to those not yet born. They will hear about everything he has done. - Zechariah 12:10 “Then I will pour out a spirit of grace and prayer on the family of David and on the people of Jerusalem. They will look on me whom they (have pierced) and mourn for him as for an only son. They will grieve bitterly for him as for a firstborn son who has died. - 🙌🙏
@@unprofitableservant3706 None of those scripture answered my question. Actually they put u in a worse place because Isaiah said He would crush Him, shouldn't that be he would crush himself? And what descendents did the messiah have? Jesus had a wife and kids? Wow! U silly Christians 😂😂😂
@@openigang ✌ 1st Corinthians 2:7-14 No, the wisdom we speak of is the mystery of God -his plan that was previously hidden, even though he made it for our ultimate glory before the world began.But the rulers of this world have not understood it; if they had, they would not have crucified our glorious Lord.When we tell you these things, we do not use words that come from human wisdom. Instead, we speak words given to us by the Spirit, using the Spirit’s words to explain spiritual truths.But people who aren’t spiritual can’t receive these truths from God’s Spirit. It all sounds foolish to them and they can’t understand it, for only those who are spiritual can understand what the Spirit means. - 👍
Why do you have to sacrifice an animal being for the purification? Why must an animal be de-created? Why can't God just forgive and re-establish the connection? Shouldn't the reparation be based on action and honest metanoia and not killing an animal or destruction of something? What's the logic behind it?
One of the most helpful revelations in my Christ walk is the fact that WE are NOT doing God any favors by what we do or don't do. He established sacrifice for us to get His message, for us to understand Him. When God sacrificed animals to clothe Adam & Eve (to replace their wholly inefficient attempt at covering themselves), He was showing them how egregious their sin was, that something innocent had to die so they could live, and that they could survive outside Eden. Oh, and BTW, 66% of what you say goes way over my head; I have no idea what you are trying to communicate.
Good video. Very interesting things. I would like to add, the annual blood sacrifice performed by the High Priest was an archetype of things to come. It was to remind the people not only how terrible the price is of the spilling of blood, but that the future Lamb was coming to make that final sacrifece for our redemption necessary to restore God's perfect government and order, and to be fit to be a kingdom of priests and kings. To be the "sons of God" again. I agree God's purpose with us is to have fellowship. To literally walk and talk with Jesus in true friendship. That's why at his coming, as Paul stated, "this corruptible body must put on incorruption... " We have to be made presentable before the Lord. New bodies filled with new spirits. As Jesus said, " no one puts new wine into old goatskins". This is significant, because God covered Adam and Eve with goatskins after their sins. The old goatskins are no longer sufficient.
I've been wondering about this stuff. Somehow many christians skip this part. One atheist said "well why was there sacrifice in the first place?" I would like to answer that question.
@@jonnyw82 the Book of Hebrews explains. I don't fully understand yet but I know that one reason was the sacrifices were meant to be a "shadow of things to come", that is, they were foreshadowing Christ. Hebrews says that. They symbolized the sacrifice of Jesus, so I suppose by performing those sacrifices, perhaps they were "exercising" their faith in the future sacrifice of the Messiah they believed God would deliver?
Um yeah he lost credibility the moment he said "The Deficiency of the Law" .. nonsense. Scripture is clear ""The law of the Lord is perfect, reviving the soul"" Psalm 19:7.. there is NO deficiency in the Torah , there is only deficiency in man's own sinful mind.
I have wondered about this topic often. I think in a way you can see the symbolism of the Gospel in daily life.. like our need to eat meat... something innocent has to shed its blood so that we might live.
The deficiency of the law... This was something as a Christian I swallowed and didn't think much about. Jesus basically fixed the problem. And, that's a problem. Because it means god lied to the patriarchs of the Torah. God commanded sacrifice. Yes, there was more to it, but there had to be sacrifice, they couldn't just repent. More importantly, god found this acceptable and so too the people. Is there anywhere in the early old testament - not taking about Isaiah or later prophets - where god or the people don't believe that their sacrifices and practices aren't good enough? But we get to the New Testament and god's laws aren't good enough. So... God gave the people of the old testament incomplete instructions? God gave the patriarchs faulty laws? Did the patriarchs as storied in the old testament - not the new - more so the Torah, where all the sacrificial laws were laid out believe that their practices were inadequate, that god gave them incomplete instructions on how to have forgiveness for their sins? Either god is a liar or the new testament is a man-made reimagining of Judaism. The problem is that Christianity views the old testament through the lens of the new testament. This is understandable. It has to. But, to do so, it has to fit round pegs in square holes. The law was inadequate. Jesus is adequate. He's the answer and completion that was always there and would be. Yet, this is incongruous with a simple understanding of what the people, according to the old testament believed. This is a contradiction and a conundrum for Christianity and one of many underlying issues pointing to the wholly man-made effort that is the Bible, but specifically the new testament.
I have long believed that the sacrificial system was about providing fellowship with YHWH in the face of un-atoned sin, which the blood of Yeshua (Jesus) ultimately atones. Where are you getting the 'de-creation' concept from-is there something in other Semitic cultures that shares this thought? Is it something from the Talmud?
Stuff in the Bible about sacrificing goats is weird, and cruelty to animals. What would God want with a dead goat? But sacrificing Jesus was even weirder. You would think that an omnipotent God could come up with some kind of better plan.
It’s actually badass though if you realize that scripture describes Jesus as the ‘second Adam’ who (unlike the first) defeats Humanity’s and God’s enemies (Sin, Death, the Devil) by living a sinless life and destroying death by death. It’s a cool enough story for me and billions of other people. But when we meet God give him your notes for next time if he creates a world with free will again.
It’s like a reminder every time they come near he is the author of life and death and constantly reminds us that’s why I love that Bible verse when Jesus says apart from me you can do nothing! Because he is the author of life and death
There is also another part. When man moves away from God through sin becomes a slave to the demons. And demons demand a price for what has become theirs. And since God is just even with them the payment is in the form of blood. Also about decreation is not as much as decreating is showing your love to God. Think about this analogy. A child actually owns nothing of his own. Everything belongs to the parents until a certain age. But when he gives a gift to them, even though the gift is from what they gave them they feel happy because it shows that the child cares about the. Is similar with God. When we give gifts to God from what He gave us we show that we still care and love Him. Is more about the gesture.
One has to put the law of Moses in the proper context. Apostle Paul does that in the book of Galatians. Galatians 3:16-19 ESV [16] Now the promises were made to Abraham and to his offspring. It does not say, "And to offsprings," referring to many, but referring to one, "And to your offspring," who is Christ. [17] This is what I mean: the law, which came 430 years afterward, does not annul a covenant previously ratified by God, so as to make the promise void. [18] For if the inheritance comes by the law, it no longer comes by promise; but God gave it to Abraham by a promise. [19] Why then the law? It was added because of transgressions, until the offspring should come to whom the promise had been made, and it was put in place through angels by an intermediary. Apostle Paul wrote this in the book of Romans. Romans 3:20 KJVS [20] Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. Let us go again to the book of Galatians. Galatians 4:19,21-31 KJVS [19] My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you, [21] Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law? [22] For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman. [23] But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise. [24] Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. [25] For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. [26] But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all. [27] For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband. [28] Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise. [29] But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now. [30] Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman. [31] So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free. Verse 26 give us some very important information. The mother in the 12th chapter of Revelation is not Mary, nor is it Israel. The mother is Jerusalem above, heavenly Jerusalem.
8:20 Internet village atheist here. So the poor animal sacrifices its life so the human can enter sacred space. Ok, weird and illogical, but at least it’s a real sacrifice. There’s nothing greater than giving up your life. Not really voluntary on the animal’s part but we can just gloss over that fact. What exactly did Jesus sacrifice? From what I can tell, not much. It wasn’t his life because apparently he’s still alive. Easter and all that. Wasn’t his divinity because he kept that throughout his life here on earth. And he is still divine according to the Bible in Revelation. Was it the 33 years of being in a human body? Did he miss a few angel Olympics up in heaven? I thought a sacrifice meant you voluntarily give up something of value. Maybe one of you internet village Christians can enlighten me.
It is essential to understand that the people regularly had to make sacrifices because the sacrifice was the only acceptable way God wanted the people to cover their sins. Notice also that the animal sacrifice ritual was God’s way of keeping man focused on the fact that sin brings the consequence of death. We think of those ancient sacrifices as gruesome and horrific. The animal’s neck was slit open with a knife, and the animal’s blood gushed out into a bowl. Please remember God’s Word in Leviticus 17:11 (NIV), “For the life of a creature is in the blood, and I have given it to you to make atonement for yourselves on the altar; it is the blood that makes atonement for one’s life.” The ritual was gruesome and horrific. But God’s people had to do it, for it was what God said to do to cover their sins. They had to get used to it. And they did. God wanted man to be repulsed by the consequences of sin. The slitting open of a lamb’s neck for that sinner’s sins did that job. He wanted man to see that the innocent suffer for the sins of others. That is another great truth man must learn about the consequence of sin. I also want us to remember that the animal sacrifice ritual was a formal legal way for man to handle sin so that no one could accuse God of breaking His standards. The ritual served a purpose in teaching man that even though a penalty had to be paid, it was possible for a substitute to take the punishment for the one who had done wrong. God had set up the animal sacrifice ritual since Adam and Eve. It was based on the concept that a guiltless party accepts the legal punishment for a guilty party so that the requirements of an unchangeable law can be fulfilled. And that unchangeable law is God’s quoted words in Ezekiel 18:20a (NIV), “The soul who sins is the one who will die.” Animal sacrifices only covered sin temporarily. They were insufficient and inadequate to completely remove sin since the innocent animals were unwilling victims rather than voluntary substitutes. Human sacrifices were unacceptable because no human (not even infant babies) is innocent of sin. We are all infected with sin from birth. Animals do not have moral choices and, therefore, are morally innocent. Animals were used because a sacrificial substitute must be sinless to be a qualified substitute. That point led us to the life of Jesus, our willing sinless sacrificial substitute. For Jesus to qualify to be the sacrificial Lamb of God to take away the sins of the world of lost humanity, Jesus must be born sinless, live sinless, and die without sin in Him. The Jews understood the rules that the sacrificial animal must be without spot or blemish. It had to be from the best of a man’s flock. If God had not stipulated that the animal must be from the best of the herd, you could be sure that men would have brought the worst of the flock: the weak, the defective, and the sick. God would have gotten only the leftovers from His people. God had to teach the people that any sacrifice to God that’s less than your best is dishonoring to Him. Christians must also understand that we should give God our best, not our leftovers. Most Christians don’t pay a ten percent tithe off their gross income, but instead, they give God what’s “leftover” after the bills are all paid and the fun money is spent. It’s also true for the time and talents God gives us-we usually give God the leftovers. But a sacrifice is not a true sacrifice unless it costs you something. The sacrifice of Jesus cost God His best.
a type of "poignant severity" ... referring to the cost of losing AND restoring EDEN. In Abraham days, the days of Leviticus ... it was not taboo to "butcher" an animal; the skill of butchery, killiing and processing an animal fit to eat, to survive was an honorable and series code that we lack today with our oven ready hamburgers; we don't see the animal that is killed and so people will take a lousy bite and throw the rest of the hamburger away, not realizing THE SEVERITY the seriousness of getting that meat i.e. something had to die for you. This HUNTER"S CODE of "eat what you kill and waste none" (this is why bone marrow is prized within this code) is not cherished in our modern day American culture. People look down on butchers and yet they want sliced meat. The ritual of the blood sacrifice is a visual representation of how serisous spiritual cleaniness is to the Creator ... is very serious. Enjoying this channel. Thumbs up.
Great teaching once again.. except,,, what do you mean by the "deficiency of the Law"? I would suggest that we should be careful of ascribing things which are not true when it comes to the "Law", it is the Word of God", the way how we should live, the Truth which gives life. It is such a Holy word.
I mean, this is great and all, but the passages specifically state that the aroma is "pleasing to the LORD". So trying to explain some other reason for it, while ignoring what the text actually says, seems to make the "village atheist" explanation a lot more tenable than you are pointing out. “The priest is to burn all of it on the altar. It is a burnt offering, a food offering, an aroma pleasing to the LORD.”
The sacrifices had two main themes..1. Without the shedding of blood, there is no remission of sin..2. We need a substitute. The sacrifice was pointing to the Atonement of Christ, God manifest in flesh. Atonement Hyphenated is At-one-ment.
One or two intelligent people have thought about these things before Tim Mackie and Michael Heiser were born. Just thought you might like to know. Spread the word!
So a claimed "All Knowing god" couldn't think of a better way to Forgive our sins!??? Why not just forgive?? Or is that something he could not do? If he couldn't, then we found something he couldn't do.
Sin means transgression, so true justice requires punishment for sins and justice for the victim. That’s why earthly courts too have the same justice system.
@@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388 -- Huge difference is, Earthy courts aren't claimed to be Omnipotent. If that 'god' is Omnipotent, doesn't he make the rules? If he does, and is truly Omnipotent, then he could have made it any way he wants, right? Honestly think about that. I as a mere Human can and do forgive without the need for bloodshed. That makes me better than the god of the bibles, a god I wasted the first 35 years of my life believing. That is, until I read the bibles. That broke the shackles of religion. If only more people actually READ those books. Have you? You should read them, with an Open Mind. “Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived.” - Isaac Asimov
@@MasterSpade because severed from Him, Adam brought into creation sin suffering death and eternal separation. Our good works don’t have life to help us conquer death. Takes life to do so . And that’s why Life Himself skipped mortal Adam of sin nature to come from no earthly man to redeem us back to eternal life If Allah truly forgave Adam, he would restore Adam back to the garden. He wouldn’t put you out of the garden for Adam’s disobedience when you didn’t even eat of the tree. Not test you all your lifetime to reward you with death to taste and in a final act of mercy, make you naked barefoot and uncircumcised to weigh your good/ bad to decide you deserve paradise or not: that’s not mercy that’s karma.
@@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388 --- The Main Point remains, that being that if there were a being that truly was Omnipotent, then that being gets to decide the way things are, right? So when you said "Takes life to do so", if that is true, that is only true because HE apparently wanted it that way. But he COULD have had it ANY way he wanted to, right? So if he wanted, he could have forgiven, without bloodshed. This brings up the question, if there is an Omnipotent being, can ANYTHING ever happen that he didn't/doesn't WANT to happen? Put another way: Does/Can anything ever happen that is NOT part of god's will/plan? Honestly think about that.
@@MasterSpade He didn’t want it that way. He created us in His image for immortality/ eternal Fellowship, by breathing His Life Giving Spirit into Adam. But man by eating of the tree got severed from this Life Giving Spirit bringing into creation ,death . So all that happens today is the fruit of the tree of death or life apart from God . That’s why Jesus came to make us a new creation, born of The Spirit for righteousness unto eternal life
The life is in the blood, where they is sin there is death, death can only be destroyed by life , the shed blood is a picture of God replacing or redeeming death with his own life.
Someone talked about the imagery of Christ dying on the cross for our sins. He likened it to human sacrifice. I never thought of it that way but after I heard him say that it has continued to disturb me to a certain extent.
I understand how someone can decide pay our debt so we dont go to jail. BUT, how can an animal, or anybody else, who is not willing make that payment? It is fundametally flawed
So it's like the animal was worthy of existing within sacred space, and the animal is now being de-created so that you can take its place within sacred space?
The sins were being transferred to the sanctuary in type. Jer_17:1 The sin of Judah is written with a pen of iron, and with the point of a diamond: it is graven upon the table of their heart, and upon the horns of your altars;
The purpose for Jesus coming to earth was to be sacrificed. That was God's intent. That was "The Plan." That was the purpose for the Virgin Birth. God didn't have to do that. No one required that. There is no authority over God that can force him do anything, but because we offended God with our sins, God required a reparation be paid in agony. Paid to who? To God, of course. God demanded this debt be paid to Himself, but He wanted to spare humans the agony required to make the payment, so God decided to pay the debt for us. Well, wasn't that nice? But how crazy is that? What is the rational behind all this? In Biblical days, the Philistines, the Canaanites, and yes even the Jews made human sacrifices to an angry God to win his forgiveness. Remember Abraham and Isaac? When God demanded Abraham sacrifice his son, Abraham didn't hesitate to do that. It was the way things were done. And what was the sacrifice the gods required? A son! (A daughter would have been an insult). So God was angry and he demanded vengeance in payment for our offenses against him. The appropriate payment was the sacrifice of a son, so as an act of mercy to humans, God sacrificed his son to himself. The insanity of this is impossible to measure. The saving grace is: it's a fairy tale.
The Gospel: Plain and Simple “But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.” - 2 Corithians 11:3 Ask someone today if they are saved and you will most likely hear responses like these: “I have accepted Jesus into my heart.” Or “I have made him Lord of my life.” “I’ve been baptized.” “I said a prayer.” Sounds all good and churchy don’t it; but it is difficult to de-termine whether or not a person actually knows the gospel that saves them. These useless phrases don’t describe a thing about what the gospel is and has left a devastating effect of people not knowing what it is that they are saved from nor how they are saved; which leaves a more serious effect of people questioning their salvation. Let’s not muddy the simplicity of salvation that is in Christ with vague church sounding phrases that do not communicate anything. But rather present God’s word with clarity and assuredness. So here is the gospel: plain and simple. Sin was passed upon all men by one man Adam, and death is a consequence of this sin (Rom 5:12). Mankind has an eternal destiny of condemnation and wrath - Hell - because of this sin (Rom 6:23). No matter what good works one might do we are still found sinners in the sight of our Creator God. And all unrighteousness and those who follow get indignation and wrath. We cannot be found righteous for by God’s law we are found sinners (Rom 3:19-20). If we have broken even one law we are found guilty. It is for this reason of not being able to create our own righteousness and being born in a sinful flesh that we need a savior (Titus 3:5). Christ is that Savior, God manifested in the flesh, sinless, died in our place on a cross 2000 years ago. Taking upon him the wrath and judgement that was intended for us sinners. And it is through his bloodshed, burial, and resurrection on our behalf that we are able to have peace with God and forgiveness of our sins (1 Cor 15:1-4, Col 3:14). This good news is unto all but only those that believe in it are made righteous in Christ (Romans 3:22). It is then after we have heard this good news of Christ’s righteousness available to us freely, that we are sealed with the Holy Spirit and we are now part of Christ’s body the church (Eph 1:13) There is nothing that we need to do, no good works that are required, and no bad works that can separate us from our new position in Christ (Romans 8:35-39). Faith and belief in this information from God’s word is the gospel. The gospel is not accepting Jesus into your heart. The gospel is not making him lord of your life, it is not saying a prayer and it is not being baptized with water. So next time someone asks you if you are saved. Give them the clear assured answer “Yes! And let me tell you why!” Find more free resources at: www.graceambassadors.com
I happened on this by accident. And I say accident lightly. The sin offering I believe to be linked to the gestation of a child. Specifically the parts that was sacrificed in sin offerings like the liver. Just like the sound of a horses hooves is the same as the sounds from the womb.
