What were the Silent Watchers of Mordor? - Lord of the Rings Lore 

lol I just thought it was In Deep Geek's voice

@@totrigo6834 lets just go with I pay In Deep Geek big money to voice the videos hahaha....

Thanks for the kind words and I love video suggestions! As you are basically the first, I’ll definitely check out Imrahil and make it within the next few weeks so stick around, again thanks so much

I don't mind AI videos, provide good content and idc who makes it

it's the pronunciations that get me. cirith ungol is not sirith ungol. that is where you use AI voices to HELP you; not where you blindly rely on them. quality control, editing, artistry, all those are still needed when lazy AI is involved.

I do have to change and rewrite the scripts to make the AI voice say a lot of the Tolkien terms differently, so you can think I’m being lazy but I honestly just didn’t know Cirith Ungol was pronounced that way when I made the video… it was my first video but it’s being shared by RU-vid to a lot of people and I now know that C is K at the start of places. Either way, sorry about the error

This might be my favorite and most thought out theory/response yet

I support this theory with an additional argument based on Sauron's modus operandi. Sauron lies to his servants just as much or more than he lies to his enemies. The orcs believe that the Silent Watchers were made by Gondorian men. That was a lie, but Sauron's lies are always partly true. I think the statues were made "of" Gondorian men, of their souls. These would be powerful, likely far-sighted men of Numenorean descent whom Sauron corrupted and exploited. It's even possible that Sauron had those same Gondorian men oversee the construction of the physical statues, promising them great rewards of power, such as immortality, or even greater, longer far-sight than they had before, not telling them that the promise would only be fulfilled once he killed them and trapped them in the statues. That way, it would even still be true that the statues were actually made by Gondorian men. This also mocks the original purpose the Gondorian men had for the founding of Minas Ithil: to put a watch on Mordor. Instead, Mordor has put a watch on Gondor, and used some of Gondor's best sons to do it.

Cool! I need to watch doctor who at some point

Thanks, yeah I’ve been informed haha will fix the pronunciation in future videos

Welcome aboard! Choo choo

This is a great theory, thanks for the input!

I like this theory, orc spirits could definitely be a possibility I hadn’t even considered!

Thanks for this, & also really appreciate the Pierre bourdieu bit at the end. Trying my best over here haha, more cool videos to come!

I saw another person with this same theory so you aren’t alone!

Yeah this also makes a lot of sense, I want to do a video on some of the details about Wights at some point

I’m trying to find more niche topics to cover, the more obscure the better!

Good comment

Appreciate the comment!!

You’re right!… bummed I missed that in this script but that’s a pretty cool visual, the arch and gate crumbling behind them as the watchers wailed one last time

Wait, is this really AI? I am not supporting any AI channel. I was about to sub, then I saw this. I'll withhold my sub/like until I know.

I do like these lore explaining videos but come on, why not talk about it yourself? AI is getting more annoying each day..

The voice is, but all the content is written and researched by an actual human, so it's basically like hiring a voice actor I guess??? @@sannyassi73

This is from indeep geek not AI

@@Tohma_Ed Wait Indeep Geek is AI? 0.o

Yes, in deep geek😂

Thanks for the clarification!

Definitely gotta check that out, thanks for the info!

Helpful, thank you will change pronunciation in the future

I remember that when reading the books as a kid (around the age of 10-12) the scene with the Watchers felt really confusing, and I had hoped the movies would have explained that a bit more. The same thing with the Barrow Downs scene, but that didn't even end up in the movies.😕

@@Vohaul86maybe PJ thought the same and was like how do we do this scene

Hi! Yeah, I’ve got the correction on Cirith Ungol now a few times from others and will be making the pronunciation change in future videos. I research and write all videos myself, no chatGPT involved, the only AI I use is for the AI voiceover, I wanted to keep myself and my voice out of the videos and I just liked the way the older British gentleman’s voice sounded so that’s why I picked that. I also scour the internet for all my videos trying to find my favorite pictures/artwork to represent parts of the script, so yeah that’s me too. And I do all the editing in premiere. The music is from different lotr games

@@MiddleEarthExpress GREAT! I’m subbing now (I am Subscriber no. 588). There are *way* too many A.I./ChatGBT Tolkien channels popping up and I refuse to reward lazy content creators (These A.I. channels are the antithesis of Tolkien IMO). Cheers and thank you for your videos 🤘

Thanks so much subscriber #588!

Who knows? I wonder if Tolkien consider AI at all in his development of Middle Earth, doubtful but possible

they had to have ended up somewhere! we need answers haha

My favourite guess, even if the Blue Wizards feel a bit too high profile for this use. Kind of funny to make Palacendo into a Watcher, ahaha... In earlier drafts, the orcs say that getting past them would take wizardry, so I wonder if Tolkien did originally conceive them as having once been the Blue Wizards, then decided to downgrade them, or even leave it an open question?

After Sam saves Frodo, they return through the gate that the watchers guard

Thanks for the heads up, should the C sound more like an K?

​@@MiddleEarthExpress Yes. In all cases of people and name places starting with a C.

@@MiddleEarthExpress Yes, like K.

Just watched part 2 so I appreciate the Dune “not reference” lol

I understand the cut for time but it would’ve been cool to have seen this scene in the PJ films

Yep, will be making that pronunciation change in future videos, thanks for the heads up

I like this theory lol

Anything’s possible & some comments have great theories too, I just felt like imprisoned spirits made the most sense given Sauron’s past actions

Last year or so, AI has become quite popular among these types of channels

I honestly just felt that I don't have the right tone of voice to capture the feeling of Middle Earth, may look into a voice actor in the future but I'm working with a zero dollar budget...

just to be 100% up front, the only AI I'm using is for the voice. This is all researched and written by me in a disorganized Google Doc

@@MiddleEarthExpress It's not that I hate the AI voice, It's just that it's gotten popular lately

This the future we have to look forward to. Soon, most videos on YT will be AI assisted and or completely AI generated to spam our for profit.

Thanks, got that note from a few others and will make sure it’s pronounced right in future videos

@@MiddleEarthExpress I also didn't realise it was an AI voice, so obviously, it says what it "sees". Quite impressive for an AI voice, sounds real!

Yeah I have to go in and redo basically every Middle Earth term to get it to pronounce it correctly. My recent dragon video was a doozy getting the voice to sound right pronouncing all the names and locations in Rohan. But it is helpful knowing the C = K thing moving forward

You do you! The only AI I use to make the videos is an AI voice, I write, research and edit the videos myself but thanks for the comment