These messages are profound, and tell very specific stories, they are important to understand how aliens would see our reality. But let’s look at the same guy struggle to walk across the stage and gesture with his hands the entire time.
ATTENTION! Anyone who films lectures in any setting, please spend most of the time showing viewers the visual aids the lecturer is sharing with the audience (NOT their faces, no matter how pretty...). Unless the person is a comedian, we usually don't need to see the speaker much at all. Thank you.
I have ADHD, so see the speakers hands helps me to control the rythm and focus on his words a bit better. Keeps my attention on him if they're used right.
I like how the messages we've sent already basically tell anyone where we are, that we're extremely weak and how to infiltrate our culture. Could you imagine if those messages reached a race of beings that behaved just like us only they CAN get here?
aren't we jumping to the conclusion that they will perceive EMR the way we do? That they only see in visible light? That they only hear what and how we hear? We based everything we do on sight because most of us can see. We even based how other species perceive the world in terms of visualizations we can understand (because we don't intuitively know what echolocation or UV light look like). Given the variety of data, I'd hope that they could interpret at least SOME of it, and realize it's organized, intentional transmission and not background static. But it could also miss entirely, because they don't percieve anything we do. And the same could be true for us, as well.
+SkyWolfAlpha - Good points. It is interesting to consider how 'alien' the ways other species that share our planet are in terms of how they perceive and interact with their environment, as best as we can tell - and yet these same creatures, like say octopi (plural of octopus) - are amazingly closely related to us humans, if one is going by the current understanding of DNA. Geesh, we humans even seem to have a difficult time seeing things from the viewpoint of other HUMANS! Then again, the whole genetic thing may not work quite as we have been led to believe. Dr. Bruce Lipton, among others, has shared some interesting info on how relatively complex organisms such as humans can have fewer 'genes' than corn/ maize. Apparantly this is possible because the 'genes' get rewritten on the fly, with 'letters' added, omitted, or both - in response to the organism's perception of the environment. More complex organisms reportedly rely more on this than simpler organisms. Yet John Cairns did some interesting experiments demonstrating rapid and specific mutations in response to environmental stress among colonies of bacteria. The more we look, the more fascinating the world reveals itself to be. It seems shocking that many soil organisms - on which our own lives directly depend - remain undiscovered and un-named. Soil microbiologist Dr. Elaine Ingram speaks about how these, and organisms living in the oceans, etc - were basically ignored if they could not be cultured in petri dishes on agar gel. Wow. Talk about a blind spot. Now, with PCR and other tools, the billions of organisms living in tablespoon of soil can be identified. And technology allows us to see some of these strange creatures, and even see some of the behavior among the vast array of species there. Thinking about and exploring the possiblity of life elsewhere is important, but we have only begun to learn about life on Earth - even as we are destroying it. And the life-support systems of Space Raft Earth. More food for thought. Appreciated your thought provoing post as well.
You mean either 'conceal' or 'disguise' and the answer is: as long as possible, any aliens we encounter will most likely not be organic, and so will not understand the constant masterbating we do.
I'd imagine it would be like the "welcome to Camelot" scene in Monty Python and the Holy Grail. This planet doesn't make any sense, best to move along.
It's sad to think that the odds of us being the generation that gets contacted is so slim we will probably die never knowing if there's anyone else out there or why we're here
We can't even communicate with our fellow earthlings yet: dolphins, apes, elephants, save for some extremely basic things, or in the case of some of the apes, slightly more complex. Yet we all evolved from common stock on the same planet, sometimes in the same environments. I'm all for reaching out, but we still have a long way to go in learning how to communicate across species lines if we want to ever try to communicate with an extraterrestrial.
Brandon McGinnity 100% the species on the planet have the same basic consciousness, process similar inputs from the environment. We should be able to communicate with them in some reliable way first.
The more sophisticated (smart) the message we send the smaller the chance we can get anything across. Plus we send messages that can be read with our own senses, forgetting that aliens may or many not have the same senses. Not at all because we might be smarter, but rather we might be talking to totally different paradigm of beings that doesn't even use our 5 senses and logic. There are 1000s of other weaknesses in our thinking when it come to taking to other smart beings. This shows how narrow minded (and arrogant for that matter) we still are in our views to our real value in this universe.
If we received a message from an alien culture how should we respond? First, what is the message? If we can understand the message for what it is communicating, then respond in kind. For example: The message has some type of code or sequencing that can be understood as a DNA structure. Since we can understand the coding then we can communicate the coding so send our DNA structure in the same coding. If we can't understand the message for what it is communicating (which is very likely) then the only way we can let them know that we got the message, understood that it is a message as well have the ability to receive and send information is to send their message back to them, first identical, then a few more times with each slightly modified. For example: Same coding as above but we don't understand what it is relaying. Send it back as we received it. Then send it backwards, upside down, altered by some consistent numerical scale, etc.
I really enjoyed how the camera lingered on the speaker and not his slides, even when he was talking about his slides. I really appreciated that the Mauri representation of a human was on my screen for maybe 100 milliseconds. This is sarcasm.
I've yet to see anything which I think correctly predicts what meeting an alien in person would actually be like. The closest was Whitley Streiber's 'Communion'. Sagan and Hawking, though brilliant in their fields, have it completely wrong. An experience meeting a being who was the culmination of an entirely separate evolution, would be life altering and terrifying. Only someone who hasn't given it much thought would think otherwise...like kids who naively brag they'd be able to handle torture without giving out secrets to the enemy. As Streiber wrote, despite our knowledge and technology, we're still animals on an emotional level, and our reaction to aliens, especially if they're superior in intelligence, would most likely be the same as wild animals encountering humans for the first time. People would be in shock. Even if the alien's intentions were benign, they'd be able to do anything they wanted, and there would be nothing we could do to stop them. They could come into your bedroom at night to watch you sleep, remove random people for analysis and study, take the gold from Fort Knox, appear randomly anywhere, and they would not care about, nor understand 'human decorum'. Just being aware of their presence here, and their capabilities, would cause us extreme anxiety and mass panic. They'd travel around like gods, and we'd find their movements and abilities confusing and totally unfathomable. But despite possibly possessing vastly superior intelligence, they'd still find it difficult to communicate with us to explain their intentions. Think about how biologists have attempted to communicate with primates. In some studies chimps were able to learn sign language, but can only communicate concepts like 'I want a banana' or 'I am tired'. It's not possible to explain even rudimentary properties of physics to them, because these concepts are beyond their comprehension. And only a few million years of evolution separate us and chimps, and between us and aliens it could easily be greater. And this is on top of the fact they'd evolved on another planet. Many people ask why they don't just land on the White House lawn to alert us to their presence? We'd soon be cowering in our houses, our economic system would most likely collapse, as everything we think of as important would be rendered meaningless. There's a good chance many people would create 'screen memories', which rape victims and combat veterans often experience, rejecting the reality they're here, and instead attribute the disruptions to our lives as the result of a terrorist attacks, even ridiculing those who say otherwise.
And something rarely to never considered or discussed is that aliens we encounter may be less developed than us and even less capable than us. For example: What if we invented the airplane before we invented the kite? We could be flying everything from bi-wing crop dusters, stealth bombers and helicopters without ever having thought of a kite. Then along comes someone with a kite - alien technology beyond our imagination. Our reaction? A head slap, a "duh!" And then off to innovate the kite and invent windsurfing... The point, as you so well put it, we just don't know but it will likely change our lives.
Hey thanks for the kudos Kudotsu. Sure....the order in which various beings in the universe make scientific discoveries could vary wildly. And yes, there may be major inventions waiting to be discovered, based on known physics, we haven't thought of yet...some undiscovered combination of technologies. Gunpowder was known for centuries before they invented the gun...they just needed the right technologies to come together. I don't think though, that a civilization would discover space flight before discovering computers or light bulbs. But you never know, they might discover a way of producing huge amounts of propulsion using very simple means.
I think you have very little faith in humanity, perhaps you've spent too much time being surrounded by snowflakes at the university. Boooh! Hope I didn't scare you.
J.D. Waterhouse Here's a pin for your balloon. What if they are advanced enough that they CAN communicate with us. Are you sure you're not being hipo critical in assuming they would not be able to?
The best thing to say to a being from another galaxy is "Greetings Brother, We welcome you!" As We have sent too much already that is violence-related, and from the way, we acted to ETI's already and our use of weapons and thought to harm others of our kind and all other life on this planet. It is not a matter of them getting here as they are here already, and the easiest way to communicate with them is with our minds. As in many books, we can find that we are basically all one.
GongsunXin it’s called pancrea-cratic muscu-lafribria. It shortens each day, small scale. By his 90’s it’ll be a nub :/ he’s a great guy for putting his best foot forward in this situation.
The two times I had contact, I had absolutely nothing to say. I did a lot of listening. There would've been nothing I could say that they would'nt already know
I would use periodic system of elements. It's easier to use it, because elements are te same in every planet/galaxy etc and every inteligent race knows tchem like we do (or even more).
I think this guy is goofy. Talking to an alien would be worse than trying to explain psychology to a monkey or fire to a fish. Most of the animals on earth humans can't talk to.
So this guy who works at SETI Isn’t going to mention that we received a reply from the Arecibo transmission. A direct reply in a crop circle. Same as ours but with alien information. What a guy what a guy
Did I misunderstand or did in the first 5 minutes he say: we sent a map of our solar system and our location in the galaxy (so...a map of the terrain) and information about how our chemistry works with us being made of chemistry (find our biological weaknesses
Deaf people can feel music. They can feel the pulsing so as long as ETs have a physical body and the ability to observe time the way we do they'll understand the it is organized.
Really good point. This all seems to be based on our physics, mental, technical and scientific limitations. They could be based in a whole different physical reality altogether. I imagine they would be way more advanced than us though and so therefore able to decipher our collywobble.
@@etelrosenberg5141 The ones that are completely and way advanced can hear the music you are listening to. They can also get into your dreams. They are definitely not to be played with. They are many steps ahead and can can make you see things that are not real.
The first thing you would do is establish the foundation of the communication method. Then one would ask about the third conceptual step if steps 1 and 2 in the universe are 1. matter/energy and 2. information. What is the third, higher, step in that sequence.
The reason we haven`t received any messages from out of this world is the fact we are being blocked or jammed at the frequencies we`re using. The beings operating these spacecraft surely don`t want us communicating with them aboard their craft nor their home planet. I think they would have a simple method and if they could, would they? Of course they would!
hi alien. we need to do the equivalent of 197 Apollo moon landing projects in 4000 days to prevent exponential changes in the climate.. think you could lend us a hand?
I think it's very naive to assume that an ET form of life would be "friendly" by definition. It's actually pretty dangerous for us going in a desperate search for ET life, because beware about what you hope, one day we may finally find someone out there... Someone or Something. And if their intentions are not friendly, we could end in deep troubles in a blink of an eye. Jeeez people, didn't Star Trek teach you anything at all about this matter?
- space is abundant in resources , any civilisation capable of traveling distances in light years would have more than enough of whatever they need on their way to us so there is no reason for conflict in space because of aboundance in resources and ofcourse space. What possible reason could ET have to invest vast amounts of energy and time to come to earth and destroy us ?
Since we have no idea what is in the evolutionary interests on other planets, we have little conception of what life on other planets is like. But there is one thing for sure, and that is that the overtone series is the same all over the universe. The pentatonic scale is the first item to be fished out of the overtone series, which is why we have pentatonic folk songs all over the world. That is why the Kodaly method of teaching music begins with pentatonic folk songs. Betcha they have pentatonic folk songs all over the universe too. That is why the Kodaly method was given a free commercial in Close Encounters of the Third Kind.
"visit us now, we have tea. it is a bitter drink so we sweeten it with sugar, then we make it less sweet with some lemon juice. the essence of mankind in a cup"
We should stay as silent as we can. If you were dropped on an unknown island, you'd first want to stay silent, keep a low profile for a while to know if there are dangerous animals, even cannibals. Same applies to our presence being known, there's no hurry.
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WHY DOESN'T THE CAMERAMAN SHOW THE GRAPHICS THE SPEAKER IS REFERRING TOO??!! this is so frustrating I don't know if I want to even watch these TED Talks anymore!
The year is now 2019 ...They are here !!!....They can engineer music ....We need to use music to convey an understanding between us ....Put a song in your head so you can function in the presence of an ET event ....
We should sew a load of bits of animals and humans together to make a really interesting corpse. And maybe add a chainsaw engine and/or a toaster to it for added alien confusion.
Contrary to common believe and a global population that is kept hostage in ignorance, a certain group of extraterrestrials have answered hundreds of questions as can be read in the Contact Notes of Billy Meier. If your question is not answered in the Contact Notes you can send him a question and it might very well be answered, just as mine was.
Type 3 or 4 civilisations will have interdimensional travel. The distance problem will have been overcome. They will have the capability to come and go as they please. Why would they communicate with us if they can come and go. Communication with a type 3 or 4 will b one way.
Im happy to see that SETI is reaching out to the public to join in their activities and to engage the public's imagination. Truth be told though, first contact is not going to happen through radio. The first steps happen through what science would think is "woo woo" stuff. First after the majority of the population is positive to ET contact will there be an open physical contact "a traditional, meet and greet situation". Because people!..., traveling in space is not an issue for them, they overcame that when they became space-faring. They come and go as they wish through portals, trans-dimensional travel and teleportation through consciousness shifts. In effect, they are just waiting for us and the governments to say "OK, you can come". My first communication would be "What took you so long?" ^_^ followed by "Selamat Ja" which is "Be One, Blessings" in Sirian, a major component of the Galactic language.
Since we are all energy images, then imagine what you want in front of you. Your constant focus will build it because we are images ourselves. It's only fair that we are cameras of our own. I see energy and light beings that look like that one on the movie Mission to Mars. I like the energy and light beings in the movie The Abyss, too. To them, I say, hug me and never leave me. I want to be where you are.
You should say Goodbye,- we are just on our way. Actually you would not be able to communicate at all. That is why they have been here before us and ignoring us.
Thats a little bit ridiculous isn't it? Its just a basic representation of humans by a country in which most people (at the time ) were caucasian. We are all members of the same species, do you honestly think an alien would understand what the hell you were on about if you showed them dozens of pictures of near identical humans and started to point at tiny physical differences between them and explaining that these tiny differences were very important, they would think we were a bit nuts.
If we were able to communicate with intelligent extraterrestrials then what would they say to us? . John 8:23 So he went on to say to them: “YOU are from the realms below; I am from the realms above. YOU are from this world; I am not from this world. . .