probably because we’ve never seen charlie make a sexual remark, she’s yet to even show a hint of interest in a sexual relationship whatsoever. meanwhile, angel makes a lot of sexual remarks and is a pornstar who actively trades sex work for drugs.
I heard that when hazbin hotel was in the works, vox and Val had online persona in Instagram and Twitter made by Like, some of the crew and that it was confirmed that they have an on and off relationship and we're very toxic to each other.
its been confirmed by viv that alastors romantic side will be explored later in the show, however he is strictly ace!! So anything strictly romantic is on the table for our red fellow :)!! (I should probably clarify that if you hc him as aroace you're valid aswell
@~{Alis🌹} ;3- amiga de pj pug viv ha confirmado que el lado romántico de alastor se explorará más adelante en el programa, ¡sin embargo, él es estrictamente un as! ¡Así que cualquier cosa estrictamente romántica está sobre la mesa para nuestro compañero rojo :)! (¡¡Probablemente debería aclarar que si lo encabezas como aroace también eres válido
Being AroAce doesn't necessarily mean romance or sexual relationships are off the table, like many other commenters have mentioned. It's a spectrum and where Al lies on that, is unknown
Alastor to husk: if you ever say that again... I tear you soul apart like every other DISRESPECTFUL WRETCH that dares to question me.. Understood? Fans who ship them: OMG SO CUTE SHIP SHIP SHIP 💗💗💗
Technically those old Instagram, of vox and Valentino‘s fight is technically no longer canon because of the redesign because some of the instagrams post are canon just not all are 100 percent canon i think
@@kawaiiemolga Ok but from the show so far, valentino is an awful person obviously, and hed probably be an awful boyfriend, but not to vox. Him and valentino get along rlly well somehow 😭
Angel Dust and Alastor I can get behind because it allows Angel to sleep around and not have a partner that would get jealous. While also having someone respect his body and just be romantic with. And Alastor has someone to slowly understand his boundaries Edit: it has been brought to my attention and after a quick Google. Alastor is both aro and ace. In support I shalt upgrade Angel from boyfriend to best-ish friend Another edit: clarifying. Aro doesn't mean complete lack of romantic attraction it's a spectrum. Ace isn't a complete lack of sexual attraction, it too is a spectrum. If Alastor is or is not aro is up in the air. I would support Alastor with Angel romantically or Platonically. Be nice about the shipping. They are literally fictional characters.
Agreed why does anybody think Alastor even needs someone? He’s the depiction of me. In his Eternal Prime, a demon both literally and figuratively, and doesn’t take shit from anyone yet can put every disrespectful bitch in their place with one look. Why does he need anyone but himself. Though I can’t deny I do understand the appeal of the enemies to lovers trope. Though Disney fucked up thiers since Rey and Ben were actually siblings in the original script.
>radiodust 1) while ao3 has a bunch of nsfw fics of Alastor and Angel dust, there are also a lot of fics with "Asexual Alastor" in the main tags. All these fics openly work with the topic of asexuality and don't make Alastor engage in any sexual stuff. 2) I'm aroace myself, and for me it is important to see, that aspec people can still form deep connections and personal relationships. Soo I really don't think that this is an exclusive case of "erasure"
THATS WHAT I WAS THINKING! 1. I don't think it was ever confirmed that Alastor is Ace, if it was I'm completely unaware. I'm however here for the idea that he is Ace, he just doesn't seem like the type to be into anything like that 2. Ace people can have romantic relationships! They just don't have sexual ones, so it's not far fetched for a romantic relationship to be sparked between them And hell, it's not far fetched that on Angels road to redemption he falls for Alastor and learns to respect his boundaries
@@onyxtheskywing7914 Vivz said that Alastor is aromantic and asexual on one of the streams. But like, you are still totally right. Aroace people can form meaningful relationships. And in the end aromantic people are all on the spectrum one way or another and the fact that Alastor is aromantic doesn't mean that he can't have special connection with other people
I like Chaggie AND Charlastor tho 😭😭 all of the fanarts of them are so cute and just fluff!! (I started shipping Charastor first, then I realized Alastor was aroace and Chaggie was canon)
@@ThePaperBag i love charlastor cuz they give 80-90's couple vibes and its so adorable, also it made kinda sad they will have that father and daughter-like relantionship, but yeah, whatever makes vivzie happy 🤗
@newtbrain Well, ships are not really about that, though. They're about people personally paring up two characters that they think could make a good couple or relationship in general, ignoring the boundaries set between them in the show. It's more of an evaluation based on dynamics and such. One example would be the ben and gwen ship from Ben 10. Regardless of your stance on the ethics or whatever behind cousin on cousin incest, ben and gwen make a really good duo, and the ship is a response to that.
Pov: you call a ship toxic and then they actually make out in the finale (im talking about Valentino and vox) Edit: Shut up about it being 'toxic'. Shut up about it 'not being canon'. They are canon and I've heard the same "it's such a toxic ship even if they are together!!!" So many times.
While they are cannon, they aren't healthy for eachother and this is actually a plot point, as its meant to show their abusive and unhealthy relationship?
@@who4251 not everything is always healthy 100% + it's an actual psychological fact that there is more interest to a romance story when it's not completely healthy and etc. +They both are assholes, so why not ?
Chaggie: absolutely. Huskerdust: yes lmao Cherrisnake: not shown bonus Charlastor: yes, BEFORE I WATCHED THE SHOW. As you can see i currently enjoy canon ships a lot.
Radiodust💖 1> I do want Angel to have a healthy relationship 2> As sexual as angel is, he still has a great deal of respect for people's boundaries. And seeing them work out their details is life goals. Not everything has to be about sex and two people on total opposite of the spectrum can deff be perfect for each other. 3> They're both cheesy. That's it.
I agree completely. Just because they are on opposite ends of the spectrum doesn't mean they cant have a romantic relationship. Adding on to what you said, just because alastor is ace doesn't mean he strictly cannot be sexual. Asexuality is a spectrum and not everyone on it fits into that same mold. Also with what happened to angel, I think alastor could prevent that from happening again with how powerful he is.
@𝘚𝘯𝘦𝘢𝘬𝘺 𝘚𝘱𝘢𝘳𝘬𝘭𝘦𝘴 u can't ignore that he's still aroace Queerplatonic, a word that originated in the asexual and aromantic communities, offers one way to describe nonromantic relationships That's probs what I would describe there relationships but as a person who is part of the aroace spectrum it really just depends technically I'm in a relationship
It is a bad ship. Just because its cannon doesn't mean it isn't? Its literally made TO BE a bad ship. Its an unhealthy relationship dynamic with jealousy, indifference, manipulation, dependency, cheating, and sexual abuse????? Its a part of the fucking plot dude. You aren't supposed to fucking like it?? I'm so confused on just how many people are saying this shit.
EXACTLY! JUST BECAUSE YOU WANT A TOXIC SHIP TO BE CANNON BECAUSE YOU THINK IT COULD CAUSE INTERESTING PLOT/ETC DOESN’T MEAN UR TOXICCC finally a smart person.
imo this rule only works if there are no age gaps/ they are adults with the ability to consent. i dont believe you can say the same thing about shipping a child and an adult together, cause at that point its nothing but pedophilia and grooming.
yeahh, but it makes you look weird..let's be honest, most of those who like toxic ships just love reading about how one character mocks another. Perhaps they will not carry it into real life, but the very fact that this abusive relationship excites them is not very pleasant tho
As an Asexual, Radio Dust doesn't make me feel comfortable at all, but if you like it more strength for you! I'm not going to ask you to like it, I just don't think it makes sense.
@@laraprisma6381you do know an asexual can still have sex right? and an asexual person in a relationship with a non-asexual person doesn't need to include sex? it can be strictly romantic with no sexual instances.
bro Husk and Angel Dust is a wholesome ship nothing more or less they just organically got to know each other and have a serious vibe. Plus both can relate to one another. However them being friends is everything ❤
@Local Orel Fan I'm So Glad Someone Finally Said This. I Also Agree With It Too! I Genuinely Think He Is A Good Guy, But In His Own Type Of Way. He Is One Of The Main Protagonists In The Show. If He Was A Bad Guy, I Think He Would've Been An Antagonist. And Like I Mentioned Before, Alastor Is A Good Guy, He's Just Stubborn And A Mood Most Of The Time.
Not really, because overlords are kind of the people who RUINED his life, and it’s not like Alastor would ever be able to properly understand or connect with Angel. Also, the power dynamic would be just as horrifically toxic as with Valentino
@Local Orel Fan That’s true, but another thing I would like to add is that Valentino supplies Angel with pcp to get him to cooperate easier, which is something that Alastor also does to Husk (but with alcohol) so it’s clear that Alastor doesn’t have a huge problem with it
I don't know how this relationship would be "healthy". I feel uncomfortable with this ship. and the idea that it simply ignores alastor guidance makes me very uncomfortable. out of everyone on this show, he's the only one who represents my sexual orientation along with Husk. and erasing his asexuality for me would be a crime and makes me very uncomfortable!
I literally had to search up what tsudere means and how to pronounce it just so I could know what I’m into. And they’re right. I do love a ship where one of the lovers is usually cold and harsh but sometimes shows a soft, kind, mushy side to them.
Angel Dust × Alastor "Your probably really desperate for Angle to have a healthy relationship." Me : Yes, actually I really am Edit : Dang, I think that's the most likes I've ever gotten on a comment lol
I love how vivzie just shut down all of the charlie and alastor shippers with the “its a little funny, you could almost call me daaaddd” in the actual show haha Edit: holy shit, thats alot of likes, rip my email, anyways. I understand people still ship charlie and alastor i was just making a joke, please put down your pitchforks 🙏. And i didnt say anything abt ppl erasing his sexuality
@@heidisandy7490 tsudere is when a person acts differently than what they actually feel. Let's set an example: A guy is rude to another guy but eventually warms up to him and now they're friends. This one isn't relationship wise, but it can happen in relationships too. Actually, this happens in most relationships I've seen so far in my life. If I got anything incorrect, please inform me because it's been a long time since I've even heard the word tsudere. Hope this helps!
I really love alastor x rosie, I ALMOST DON'T SHIP CHARACTERS BECAUSE I'M A CLEAN MEN BUT IF I DO IT BETWEEN NON-CANON PARTS IT'S FOR A GOOD REASON OKAY?! Do not judge me 😭
what you favorite ship says about you: literally any ship- despite the fact that your ship is probably not cannon and probably never will be, it's completely fine to ship whoever you want because these are fictional characters and liking a certain ship says nothing about you as a person.
Yeah, if only half the fandom could understand that. It sucks people will get criticized for not liking canon ships, or changing sexualities in other AU's (despite the fact vivziepop doesn't care what we ship or do with the characters).
@@PureCurebyFaith lmao thats a lot of salt but im just saying shipping a 'problematic' character or a canonical asexual character with someone else is a lot different than shipping a child character with an adult character. People can enjoy media however they want so long as it isn't illegal but if you wanna attack fandoms there are a lot worse ones to attack than Hazbin Hotel.
As an ace I kind of like how Alastor is shipped with so many characters lol. It's nice to get a powerful rep that everyone still sees as being capable of not only still being attractive without all the frick frack, but also is a character where it is not all he is. Yay for not overtly buttoned up, stuffy, repressed ace representation! If people like to headcanon him as allo or not sex repulsed then I think that's chill too. As long as no one is hurting anyone!
@@orel_puppingtonit’s also a case where many Charlastor shippers are just using Charlie as a way to project when to comes to a romance with Alastor instead of just making a self-insert
Alastor x Lucifer Alastor x Charlie Alastor x Vox Alastor x Val Alastor x Angel Alastor x Vaggie Alastor x Rosie Alastor x Husk Alastor x Adam Alastor x Mimzy Alastor x Nobody Alastor x Sir p. Alastor x Cherri Bomb Viv said you can ship her characters with anyone. But everyone has a opinion, like i hate radio apple, so please respect that.
