Almost all world class pianists started piano lessons when they were 5 or younger, when the brain is developing and open to new learning experiences extensively.
@Mowskii Nice. How are you doing and what pieces are you learning? I’m practicing prelude and fugue in f minor from wtc2, invention n8 and n13 and prelude and fugue in b minor from wtc 1 for my 2 years since I started piano recital (I’m gonna complete 2 years of experience in piano this month day 18)
@@alainspiteri502 Of course you can have your own view and thoughts about her career. I cannot judge her decision to rule out solo recitals and engage only in accompanied performances. There must be something quite painful behind it. However, her legacy is undeniably formidable, well worth the worldwide recognition and acclaim she has received throughout her artistic life. Adieu or a rivederci, I do not know which applies since you have a french name and a I guess italian surname.
@@jlas0324 j known Arg. since 1968 , j bought her first recordings ( DG ) Lizst -Sonata , Schumann Sonata-2 In 1970 also : phenomenal viril and feminine Liest-sonata for me the best since 70' no only technic but above technic of keyboard so j known very well Arge. ; j didn't her first recording of Chopin- cto n1 ( with Charles Dutoit conductor ) too fast it's a personnal choice . In two words j like and j listen Argerich before she was 35 y old because after 35 only -mostly Arg.plays with orchestra , she was a prodiginious teenager pianist , a Genious as Roberto Benzi ; all pianists have their Discography Argerich nothing !! where are her Chopin Beethoven Schumann Bach Liszt... ???? Chopin is not only op35-2 , Preludes ! Where is Beethoven where are Beethoven sonatas ? where is a Discography of Schumann ? only Sonata Kreisleriana where is the composer of piano solo ? are you stupid ? The Young Arg. is phenomenal but very far from Great Pianists in 20Th Century as Walter Gieseking -Debussy , Rubinstein-Chopin Cziffra Liszt , Backhaus Kempff Beethoven , Schumann- Yves Nat etc etc ....do you understand that there is not a Discography of Argerich ( François René said ) ? J hope !
@@alainspiteri502 Your comment could have a point, but due to its rudeness deserves no elaborated answer. I consider myself not that stupid, but as I said before, you are free to have your own views and opinions about Argerich, myself of whoever you like.
My daughter was like that, age 9-12 …. Simply amazing. I wish something more came from it. People are born with such talent. Sometimes they don’t see or feel it.. Shame
Was so moved to hear and see Martha Argerich so young. I walked out of my first student job to go and listen to her in London. Best decision I've yet made.
"Astonishing" perhaps, yet Larrocha at 9 is nowhere near the standard being set by the 9 year olds of today - as is manifest in this recital of Couperin, Rameau, Prokofiev, Lokshin and Debussy. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xdDhy1gGePw.html
@@YoshiyukiMukudai_NBC-ABC-CBS While I don't disagree with myself (re AD v AL at 9), I am a bit disappointed by AD's development after the annus mirabilis of 2018.
@@YoshiyukiMukudai_NBC-ABC-CBS Comparative evaluation of performances of different works X and Y is tricky (especially if you stopped listening to the composer of X years ago). The best way I think is indirect: find the gold standards of the two work, and then estimate the respective distances of the two performances from them. Well, AL is extremely interesting and fine, but she does rattle through this nocturne at a pace that no professional pianist (e.g. her later self) is anywhere near. In contrast, AD's Krainev recital is more mature. E.g. the distance of her Couperin from Sokolov's is vast, but the reason is technical, not musical. Moreover, in this case a direct comparison is possible. AL''s recording at 9 of the nocturne was accompanied by her performance of the op 34/2 waltz that AD performed in round 1 of the Grand Piano Competition. (Admittedly, the comparison isn't a level playing field, since by that point AD was 10 and a year is a lifetime for such young artists.) Still, AD's greater maturity is very evident. AL's tempo is again excessive, ranging from fast to frenetic, and on occasion leaves one on the verge of chaos. No woman would put up with that on the dance floor! In contrast, AD is closer to the mature performance of the work that AL gives thirty years or so later (although again some distance off it). AL's later, mature performances of both nocturne and waltz are on YT, as is Sokolov's incredible performance of the Couperin. The performances by AL at 9 and AD at 10 of the waltz are here, for convenient direct comparison. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fRoaxTt7m1Y.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-CIepg9rmK10.html
@@jackburgess8579, I had and have no intention to compare these two pianists (especiallly with the fact Alexandre Dovgan is my favourite while Alicia de Larrocha is not, and as it is clear in my comments), for which one is better. But, thanks for the links.
I enjoyed this. Cziffra's intensity was amazing, and Gilels blew me away (as he always does, for reasons I can never put my finger on). Not sure Gould's duet partner contributed much.
That recording by Gilels (of the Liszt "Figaro" Fantasie) is pretty widely available (likely elsewhere on RU-vid) and with better sound, which you might enjoy even more.
@@emilgilels Gilels recording in this video is not common or even not on youtube. The common record is from 1935, this is from 1933. It's not a studio recording, I think it's a recording from a competition, so the sound quality is poor.
@@OzanFabienGuvener I very happily stand corrected! :-) This is a truly historic recording then. It would likely be his earliest known recording. This also explains the lesser audio quality. Do you know if more of this performance was recorded, or if other pieces were recorded?
Really wonderful collection, thank you! The Gilels was astonishing. Very impressed by de Larrocha's maturity for a 9 year old. Also interesting to hear Gould at such an age, he clearly wasn't fully developed, but still demonstrates maturity in his approach to playing Bach.
Maturity? She banged out that nocturne. She sped through the whole thing. I acknowledge her giant talent at that age, but her interpretation was anything but mature.
Amazing and wonderful we can hear those young pianists - despite the primitive recording. I'm so impressed with Alicia de Larocha' sensitivity, and only nine years old.
Unimaginably gifted. How many cognitive and physical variables have to fall so precisely into place so that anyone could be blessed with such capability is beyond human comprehension. I think “blessed” is the proper word. There are no biological accidents as miraculous as that.
I have subscribed to your site. Wonderful. I have startet playing the piano at 78:after spending my life as a clarinet player on professional level. I am overwhelmed at the technique and musicality these children havevat a very young age. Unbelievable prodigies.
When 10 great pianists under age of 18 were properly guided and weren't forbid from doing art because it's too this and that, or that they won't make a living from it etc.
My father won’t let me pursue a career in music because it “doesn’t make me money” and wants me to be a doctor. Thank goodness I have a mother. Who cares what my father thinks…..
Hai ragione Remoto Adamo troppo…..! Pensa che mia figlia suonava così, ad un’età tenerissima… Ed ora, niente… Che tristezza 😭 La più dotata che abbia mai avuto, in 45 anni d’insegnamento.
Another excellent posting! Thanks! I'd just add in passing, that even though a few of these recordings were made by pianists who'd arguably 'aged out of' official Prodigy territory, it would be correct to say that each and every one of the pianists represented (not just some) was a child prodigy. :-)
Love your videos and your persistance! Shura is my favourite, how can a kid just come up with stuff like that? BTW: if you find footage of young Korngold, that'd be great. This seemed to be a strange kid as well... Take a look at his youth-Sonatas especially that one with the Passacaglia, it's just completely nuts!
Gould e De Larrocha incredibili e maturi per la loro rispettiva età in una maniera sbalorditiva. Non da meno Cherkassky, ancora più straordinario pensando al fatto che qui è attestato anche come giovanissimo ed incredibile compositore.
Barenboim's performance at 13 of the Mozart K265 variations is staggeringly mature and better than many recordings by renowned Mozart pianists in their prime. He performed the entire Beethoven Sonata cycle in his first concert appearances in Australia at the age of 16! Another pianist you should include among these is Evgeny Kissin. Several recordings exist of his incredible performances at the ripe old age of 13-15, including his debut concert at the Moscow Conservatory playing BOTH Chopin Piano Concertos, and several invitational concerts in Japan. The 10-year-old Kissin was often brought into my teacher's class in her matriculation year at the Moscow Pedagogical Institute, to show the class how a "real Soviet pianist" plays the piano!
Мне Шура Черкасский понравился, два раза прослушала, эмоционально его игра очень отозвалась, как мальчик сыграл такие эмоциональные переживания... Прекрасно!
О, Шура Черкасский - интереснейший музыкант! Думаю, по большому счету недооцененный, хотя он был довольно известен. Мне посчастливилось дважды слушать его вживую - он приезжал в Москву в конце 80х. Ему тогда было около восьмидесяти, и по своему исполнительскому облику он казался уже чуть ли не динозавром - великая старая школа (он же ученик Иосифа Гофмана!), так непохожая на современный стиль. Совсем другое отношение к звуку, к фразировке, к rubato... Помню у него бетховенские Вариации на тему из "Творений Прометея", шопеновские пьесы и особенно Третью сонату Брамса - очень необычное, очень "своё" прочтение, и в то же время абсолютно убедительное. (Кстати, на обоих его концертах я видел в зале, с цветами в руках, его близкую родственницу, если не ошибаюсь, двоюродную сестру - актрису Татьяну Пельтцер)
When I was 15, I took part in a competition in which Jeanne- Marie Darré was one of the judges. I remember her as a very dignified but friendly elderly lady.
The abuse that Ruth Slenczynka received from her father was pure torture; yet, somehow, someway she was able to forge ahead and have a somewhat normal existence.
It doesn't shock me and I know why they are so good. They lived in a time with no distraction from social media, TV, computers, or gaming. Kids are very dexterous and can get their hand, eye coordination quite fast. They were tutored under good teachers to get their techniques down and founded for focus on emotional phrasing. They also lived in an Era where people especially parents had high work ethics and understood the practice time it took to achieve the higher level of playing. They allowed their kids to do nothing but the piano and music and most likely were musicians as well even if they were not professional ones, and when you immerse in the journey of learning music with your child it becomes apart of your daily lives and develops like a second language. This is how you produce prodigies.
Yes a lot easier in that respect. Coming from a musical upbringing no distraction. The top pianists have of course latent talent that can't be taught but if others had their same advantages most would be competent pianists
I don't think so. My son is 10 years old and plays piano from 3 years only for two hours per day. He plays computer games, reads books and have time for everything. When someone has talant, everything is easy for him. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-6JcreX4YX2g.html
Also the willingness back then to work hard and a good work ethic. No one wants to work hard these days. I could never hope to be as good as them- or can I? (Even though the recording of Gyorgy Cziffra was made at 13, my age now) unless I work. Speaking of which, I better get back to practicing.
I have to admit, I didn't know those recordings. Thank you! I am only aware of Pollini's 18-year-old Chopin piano competition recordings. Now I've listened to the recordings you mentioned, it should definitely be added to the video. But interestingly, the exact date of these Chopin etudes recordings is not found in any official source.
@@carlosjavierguzman1509 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-kvvWRzQcn04.html if you understand Italian it is an extraordinary documentary.
I jut discovered your channel! Thank you very much Xo 😘 I just had a hard time seeing the names of the pianists, as they were written too small… The words blended in the photo, making it hard for me to read. Loved your content and everything!!! Ohh, and I subscribed!
Nice list! But there is a recording of the great Maurizio Pollini playing Chopin etudes op. 10 as well as a recording of etudes op. 25 no. 6 and 10 when he was 14 YEARS OLD. If you want to check it out...
Haha, I am 13, and geez, how unconfident I feel, but I will never be the greatest. I can only be greater than myself. Still, amazing performance from 13 year old Cziffra!
Valioso documental histórico.muchas gracias.el piano, mi debilidad. Amo la Llave de Sol.lo primero que vi.en mi hermoso libro:.mi amigo el piano.estudie música ocho años ,un sueño que quedo inconcluso.🎼 🎹🎶
I find those young age recordings much more soothing and enjoyable than modern recordings. Maybe children play more musically with less harshness than adults or also all these piano are not Steinways which have a harsh bass sound (Steinway lead the industry in the wrong direction, older piano recording always sounds more pleasant), last the analog recordings were more natural than digital which brings out the harshness and distorsion.
@@OzanFabienGuvener I'm glad others feel the same way. Most noticeably when compared to historical recordings (your video of liszt La Campanella on Liszt's Bechstein is a wonderful striking example). It's especially in the bass register that Steinway has ruined the instrument's sound. Just yesterday on the radio i heard another one of those muddled harsh metalic bass sound on a D model that is undeniably ruining the music. It's surprising so many unmusical people in the industry don't realize this is wrong. I hope at some point the competition will redesign pianos to undo all the bad direction that has been followed for half a century. While Steinway has a rich treble and mid registers sound great for part of the repertoire, it is not good for most of the repertoire. The secret is that to obtain those extra harmonics they are distorting the resonance by design, and while this is okay for the top register it creates a huge cacophony of muddled sound in the low register and that muddies the mids too when sustain pedal is used. Also, the huge tensions in the cables requires massive hammers that cause a stomping sound on every attacked note especially in the bass. United Statians are notorious for not changing their bad designs for example before the 2009 financial crisis the US motor vehicles industry looked like 1980 and even 1970 era. Then they massively copied european designs of sleek, efficient cars only when they were on the verge of bankruptcy. Something similar should happen to Steinway if a competitors exposes and undoes all the musical flaws of their design instead of copying it !
Very good! Please update and expand to include Yunchan Lim (16 years, e.g. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GFjtI3ggpFc.html ). Youngest winner ever of Van Cliburn!
@@OzanFabienGuvener no possible censured by Y Tube about Classical Music , think a little ! J wrote Argerich was a prodiginious teenager pianist , j have her first recordings Lizst Sonata also her first Ravel it s des in 1970 : j repeat that after 30-35 Argerich don't play in solos pianos but mostly play with great orchestras it's not you Tube who have erased this comment of a pianist -music lover . Argerich died where is her Discography no only one Composer ! Can someone answer me ? This is unheard in the History of piano . J agree Argerich was prodigious Young not when she's mature : true or false ? it's that RU-vid has erased ? ? do you think this ? in French better for me " les réseaux sociaux comme RU-vid existent pour s'informer dans tous les Domaines et pour un échange d'idées entre youtubers "
@@OzanFabienGuvener ok this showed up again in my feed: it's Barenboim - I don't understand how people think he is any good at all... he was not good a 23 (about when he released the 32 Beethoven sonatas) he was not good at 63 and now you show me that he was not good as 13 - he was never good - please delete this video and make "When 9 great..." one instead. Is this a popular opinion? no... is it correct? according to me it is... :)
@@antoniomonteiro3698 Oh I understand. I don't like Barenboim either :). In my opinion, he is not "great", but I said that because of the general opinion. But I think youth records are good "for their age". For example, there was Beethoven's hammerklavier, which he did at the age of 15 (I think, maybe 16). But yeah, it wasn't "big" for me either. I can put the phrase "great" in the title :)
Ahora hay pianistas geniales, muy superiores técnicamente, sin embargo; hace falta la flexibilidad de interpretación y creatividad que hubo en aquellos tiempos.
