When 3 Aces Fought Germany's Super Pilot 

No one Cares about stupid Allies

"Sailor ' Malan has long been a hero of mine both for his combat skills and courage as an ace and his post war fight against apartheid and racism .A truly decent man.

​@Wardad did he go by sailor because his name was Adolph, and he didn't want to be associated with THAT adolf?

@@indianheadlogan No, jhe was a merchant navy sailor somewhere in his past.

Bro playin trios (no fill)

I did research on Hans Marseille, and, as it turns out, he was killed in action after his plane's vertical stabilizer hit him after his plane suffered engine failure a couple of months after this historic moment.

@@jarrodkopf6813 indeed mate if he didn’t got killed his ground crew should check Marseille engine but if his 109 engine didn’t work he could have be miss his mission And he would have survived.

@@Spitfiresammons stupid statement 😂

@@guaporeturns9472 how

@@jarrodkopf6813 The reason why he had to bail out in the first place IIRC is because issues with the DB605's in the early BF-109G.

Their is no action packed cinema when it comes to a ally being killed. The same background noise that is harmless, is the same background noise that kills your friend. But what do I know, I'm just a random reply on RU-vid.

lol it's funny how he uses every word he can to avoid saying 'kill' or 'die.' The algorithm will do that to you though.

True, but depicting Marseille as if he was some sort of demon whereas the 3 southafrikaans were the goodies, it's just war, it's kill or be killed.

If you declare with your mouth, 'Jesus Is Lord' and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. -Romans 10:9

It needs to be handled Via reparations.

That is truly a heartwarming moment, that they didn‘t fight each other!!!

Scene was wholesome and funny

It is a rare and cherished treat for Wartime Aviators being able to chat with your Opponent. This was still happening at this early stage of WW2, especcially before cities burned everywhere in europe and honorable duty was replaced by sheer hatred . The English are a very special crowd in that regard because they acted mostly honorable even after their cities turned to rubble in the Blitz. A reason more for me thinking so highly of the Brit's! And I mean the Commonwealth as well.

the african theatre was in general a bit more gentleman-like than the other theatres

​@@stayhungry1503 imagine if the pilot was japanese instead of german

i think it's because as the adage goes, young men with no animosity towards each other get suckered into fighting stupid wars for old cowardly evil men

@@followyourbliss101every time

I think back then it was illegal to leave a combatant. So if someone is down you must assist them.

It's something common in the air back then. they're the knights of the sky, with steel birds as their mount. once they get "dismounted", they're no enemy anymore. well, at least for most of them. later on, this gentlemanly behavior was replaced with sheer hatred the moment bombs started wrecking the cities across Europe, and we find less and fewer examples of it.

​@@ImprovingSlowlyif it was "illegal", it's something one could easily disregard in most cases. One pilot was severly injured and the other must have been injured as well after just crash landing in the desert after a dogfight. The German plane was on fire as well which added another element of the danger and risk the pilot was taking to save an "enemy". I think it does a disservice to suggest this wasn't anything but bravery, honor and decency though I'm sure you meant no disrespect

He’s probably the closest thing reality had to Maverick, both in terms of personality and in terms of skill as a pilot.

@@bkjeong4302maverick is a myth these guys are real

Erich Hartmann: Am I noone for you? *G*

@@remrich1225 Even Erich Hartmann would concede that from pure flying ability and gunnery Marseilles was superior, the difference was that Erich Hartmann was far more effective as a doctrinal fighter, and was more effective in formation, thus this kept him alive. The star of africa was killed by engine failure however he likely wouldn’t have lived through the war fighting the way he did

That party quip is intriguing but makes me wonder because that play on words might not work in German in the 1940s. A political party is called 'Partei', but a party in the sense of a celebration is a 'Feier' or a 'Fest.'

Even with the experience, its very hard to aim only to concrete part of a plane. Even on modern jets, its possible only due to computer trajectory calculation. No need to say, that these old pilots couldnt afford anything near much

Yes, hence why I stated allegedly

I wouldn't be surprised, most pilots were like that during WW2. Their job when up in the air was never to kill one another, only shoot down the aircraft. Of course bombing runs and everything like that is a bit different. But when it came to dogfights, pilots tended to hold high regard for one another due to the dangers it entails.

Skilled enough? Disrespect. He's probably the best around in the war for aircraft gunnery. Man never runs out of bullets. His shots reeks of lifelong marksmanship in nature, despite the continuous twist and turns a fighter experience.

He also *hated* the Nazis, especially after he returned home on leave to find that they murdered all his Jewish friends. He even indirectly started a small resistance movement among Luftwaffe officers and in JG27 itself (which included a man familiar to viewers of this channel called Franz Stigler)

We thought this was a good episode to cover rather than do a less exciting bio. Glad you liked it.

yoo frenchy why did you leave DACS

@@Yarnhub Fair enough haha!

@@datankz2498 our suggestion

​@@Yarnhub fair enough but, Joachim Marseille's life was anything but not exciting

Well, I can bet you are goin' to say that again after 15 videos later too😂

05:55 "Damn... he got me."

Even by wars end he was still pretty high up there in the rankings with only Gerhard Barkhorn and Erick Hartmann being at the top of I remember correctly. Sadly if you look at a list of German aces only a handful survived the war.

The reason Marseille is notable is because most of his kills were Allied fighters, not bombers as with most German aces. He was going after targets that could hunt HIM down.

@@claytonmerle976 he died due to a accident involving his plane imagine how much more victories he would've had if he lived

@@hekmatyar4476 Yeah or better yet just lived through the war. You should/listen to a couple books called German aces speak. They talk a bit about him as well as other aces of the time.

@@bkjeong4302 Not to mention all of his kills being on the RAF as opposed to the Red Air Force, where most German aces got their massive kill counts due to the poorly trained pilots in the east.

"victories". Pilots never called a aircraft shot down a kill except in movies and video games.

@@thebanananacam Some of those victories unfortunately resulted in the deaths of the pilots. But Victories is the right term.

unfortunately or fortunately however you decide to look at it the star of africa "Hans-Joachim Marseille" died in a accident

@@hekmatyar4476 Engine had issues, and when he tried to bail, he got disoriented. The ME found he didn't open his chute indicating he lost consciousness before impact

@@goldosprey It’s thought that due to how he bailed, he struck the horizontal stabilizer and got knocked out. Very sad.

I've just replied to another lad, about an aspect / story of Marseilles that many people DON'T KNOW His "bat-man" who looked after him, WAS a captured South African BLACK soldier (a Lieutenent IIRC) Knowing he'd get the living $hit beaten out of him (or worse, used for medical experiments), he saved him Marseilles took A LOT of 'verbal flak' & abuse over that, some calling him an "N-gg-r Lover" Nonetheless, he stayed & actually became friends with Marseilles, despite being former enemies When Marseilles died, it's rumoured that the Black Lt. cried & was definitely a "pall bearer" at his funeral There ARE photo's of the two of them together, clearly & flagrantly friends, by "body language" alone Sorry I cannot remember the Black Lt's name, but I'm typing this $hit out by memory alone (without checking) Most folks don't know about Marseilles link with the Black Lt (No, not gay !) but it was there - Friendship Remember, the war WAS still going on whilst their (platonic) friendship took place, quite remarkable

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NWyfcgyHAKE.html Part 2 is also available.

racist try not to glorify a nazi challenge

@@chase5298 At the home of Willy Messerschmitt, industrialist and designer of the Messerschmitt Bf 109 fighter, Marseille played American Jazz on Messerschmitt's piano in front of Adolf Hitler, party chairman Martin Bormann, Hitler's deputy and Commander-in-Chief of the Luftwaffe, Hermann Göring, head of the SS, Heinrich Himmler and Reich Minister of Propaganda Joseph Goebbels. Hitler allegedly left the room.[105] Magda Goebbels found the prank amusing and Artur Axmann recalled how his "blood froze" when he heard this "Ragtime" music being played in front of the Führer.[106] Marseille's friendship with his adopted helper also is used to show his anti-Nazi character. In 1942, Marseille befriended a black South African Army prisoner of war, Corporal Mathew Letuku, nicknamed Mathias. Marseille took him as a personal helper rather than allow him to be sent to a prisoner-of-war camp in Europe. Over time, Marseille and Mathias became inseparable. Marseille was concerned about how Mathias would be treated by other units of the Wehrmacht and once remarked "Where I go, Mathias goes."[109] Marseille secured promises from his senior commander, Neumann, that if anything should happen to him [Marseille] Mathias was to be kept with the unit. Mathias duly remained with JG 27 until the end of the war and attended post-war reunions until his death in 1984.[110] But a more telling incident of his attitude to Nazism was to come. On one occasion when he was summoned to Germany, he noted that Jewish people had been removed from his neighbourhood (including his Jewish family Doctor who delivered him) and grilled his fellow officers as to what happened to them - what he then heard were the plans for the Final Solution - the extermination of the Jews of Europe. This shocked him to the core and he actually went AWOL (Absent without Leave), he became a de facto deserter and went to Italy were he went into hiding ‘underground’. The Nazi German Gestapo (Secret Police) however managed to track him down and forced him to return to his unit where other pilots noticed that he appeared severely depressed, concerned and wasn’t anything like his normal happy self that they were used to. Besides Mathew, Hans would often see other captured Allied pilots and talk to them in English and socialize. Hans would also violate a direct order not to notify the enemy of the fate of their pilots - he would take off solo with a parachute note explaining the names of the captured pilots and that they were alive and well. As he flew over enemy airfields to drop these notes he would be attacked by AA fire, so he was risking his life to let the families of his enemy pilots know that the pilots were alive and well - or dead, removing their MIA (Missing in Action) status. According to various sources he was like that. Person who believed in chivalry who’s country was taken over by Nazis. The man wasn't a nazi at all. He did everything the nazi party forbade him to do. He listened to black jazz music, befriended a black south African pow and protected him. He played jazz music in front of the entire nazi leadership and he didn't give a flying fuck. If you can make Hitler storm out the room and you refuse to join the nazi party during your entire lifetime, it's safe to say the man wasn't a nazi. The world isn't so black and white as you try to picture it. Rather war is grey, extremely grey. Marseille, just like Rommel, defied ridiculous nazi orders and rules when they could, but at the end they remained Germans who loved their country. Same goes for many Russians today in Ukraine. I bet the majority of them don't want to be there and don't support the war, yet they love their country and fight for it. Also most of them, just like the majority of wehrmacht soldiers, didn't have a choice. One day someone knocks on your door and they tell you fight now or you die. Not much of a choice at all. Don't sit so high and mighty on your throne looking back on history from your comfy chair. We all say we would do x, y or z if it would happen to us. The fact is when shit hits the fan, we all try to survive. And when staring into the abyss, the darkness takes most of us.

Oh yeah! Quartermaster General knew how to count! But some how most of the german pilots disapeared on the eastern front. Counting engines of hitted aircraft (even then they get home) does not make you really stronger

500-600. he shot down 100 planes in 7 month. the war would go on for another 31 month.

I don't think Hartmann wasn't a skilled dogfighter pilot. However, his preferred method was to ambush other planes. That makes him an extremely good pilot when it comes to tactical awareness. Something that kept him alive. And that makes a great pilot in my book.

Ja warscheinlich

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it wasnt suicide, since his first kill he always made sure to hit fuselage over pilot even marked the locations of crashed planes to have pilots in his own territory recoverd.

Was thinking the same thing, and yet, the reality of the downed pilots is so different. Hope still lives on for humanity.

More to it than that - You may not already be aware (?) But his "bat-man" who looked after him, WAS a captured South African BLACK soldier (a Lieutenent IIRC) Knowing he'd get the living $hit beaten out of him (or worse, used for medical experiments), he saved him Marseilles took A LOT of 'verbal flak' & abuse over that, some calling him an "N-gg-r Lover" Nonetheless, he stayed & actually became friends with Marseilles, despite being former enemies When Marseilles died, it's rumoured that the Black Lt. cried & was definitely a "pall bearer" at his funeral There ARE photo's of the two of them together, clearly & flagrantly friends, by "body language" apparent Sorry I cannot remember the Black Lt's name, but I'm typing this $hit out by memory alone (without checking) Most folks don't know about Marseilles link with the Black Lt (No, not gay !) but it was there - Platonic Friendship Remember, the war WAS still going on whilst their (platonic) friendship took place, quite remarkable

@@hawnyfox3411 Mathias Letulu was his name.

@@buckrowe9196 = Cheers for that, it's appreciated - (BTW, "My Memory" bungled his rank, laughs !)

He was a nazi and for that he should burn in hell

@@hawnyfox3411 Oh yeah. Marseilles was the closest thing I would consider to be a decent German during that timeframe. He knew about the atrocities that the SS were committing and he had a change in attitude about Nazi Germany and the war. Also the piano jazz stunt was also witnessed by Martin Bormann, Herman Göring, Heinrich Himmler, and Joseph Goebbels, Magda Goebbels, and Artur Axmann.

Not RAF. SAAF.

I think they still use older stuka model, not everything is Stuka D

Boom&Zoom vs Spray&Pray. Allied planes were perfectly suited for masses of young men, while the Me-109 was a sportsplane with guns & thus more dangerous to inexperienced pilots than to it's enemies.

Germany never used 7.62, they used 7.92

Me too

He just lacked one thing, luck

Erich Haartman *Am I a joke to you?*

Absolutely

@@Chaz_Enjoyer He’s no joke but your statement is

​@@Chaz_Enjoyer São pilotos diferentes em combate. Marseille morreu precocemente de acidente trágico, Hartmann lutou toda a guerra com mais de 1400 missões de combate no fronte oriental contra pilotos russos desesperados e inferiores. Marseille combateu apenas 382 missões, todas no fronte ocidental contra a RAF e os americanos. Tinham doutrinas de combate muito distintas, Hartmann só atacava quando tinha total vantagem, em potência máxima com passagem rápidas e arremetidas. Marseille adaptava de forma inteligente as melhores táticas, com manobras precisas e acrobáticas, muitas vezes em baixa velocidade com uso de flaps para total precisão dos tiros. Ele era temido por atacar sozinho esquadrões inteiros e obter múltiplas vitórias em questão de segundos.

American planes are trash

Yes, that was Erich Hartmann, followed by Barkhorn and Rall... M was only average, because he lost lots of his wingmen... but naturally, he was one of the best.

Don't forget Manfred von Rechtoffen (I forgot how to spell his name) and his nickname was "The Red Baron" (Prussian Pilot/Germanic Pilot)

@@LSG_Squadron Yes,He was a WW1 fighter ace with 80 confirmed kills

@@steffenjonda8283 Hartmann got a lot of kills, but he wasn't a good pilot. If I remember right there's a story where his squadmates let him have a 1v1 with a British Spitfire and he struggled to actually take it down.

Best Tank Aces too !

I've just written two replies to other lads/lasses on this thread, regarding his "humanity" He 'saved' & had a close (platonic) relationship with a captured British/South African Lieutenant Read more on those replies AND the photo's ARE out there, on the 'net

Thank you

That is wrong, he was shot down 4 times in the battle of britian over the enlish channel.

@@MakotoAtava you are kinda correct. He was forced to ditch in the channel after combat damage lead to engine failures. Although it was later after he was transfered to Africa that he got shot down in other occasions. I do recall a very famous german fighter pilot that was never shot down or forced to land in combat. I think it was Erich Hartmann?

@@D4rkn3ss2000 On the other hand, Hartmann was mostly up against Soviet bombers rather than RAF fighters….

Well that's wrong. They shot him down at the start I think. Problem was he survived and went back to get annother plane. Mechanical failure was however the cause of his death. He was probably the best pilot in Africa, no question. But you can always get shot down, even when you are the best, if it is not a 1vs1.

There was 1 pilot, undoubtedly Canada's Mobius 1 that tangled and damaged Marseille's plane which forced him to escape; James Francis Edwards "Stocky".