Note to police- never ask the victim if they want to press charges in front of the person getting the charges. The suspect can intimidate the victim into saying no.
yeah, even worse when its a elderly who trusts the scammer. He was guilting and manipulating her constantly, they shouldn't have let him near her and need to make sure to establish its not a oopsy its a crime, she was feeling like it would be wrong to press charges as she was looking around for others input, the cops need to be that input, not passive putting it on her.
@@HevensdragonNo, cops should not be trying to persuade people to press charges. It is up to the person. All the other points are valid though about asking in front of the criminal.
@@NousagiCaptain Push no, but explain why logically, yes. And more importantly they should be helping her not feel like she is in the wrong to do so, that indifferent its on you, made it sound like he was dealing with somthing troublesome and didn't want to. Further making her feel like it would be wrong to do so. Making her feel like she is justified is what I am saying they should do.
As a medic I would constantly get people either faking a seizure or faking passing out, a great trick of the trade…Flick their eyelashes…if they move, we know it’s not real. After seeing so many real seizures… you kinda just know.
How about the part where he said " _Thats not me, I don't really steal, I wasn't brought up like that_ " 🤔 ...right after confessing to stealing it, & offering to pay it back from his, (hypothetical..), future earnings, ...with the firm he stole it from.. 😂
I'm so sad for Miss Donna. To have a trusted individual steal from you is the worst. So how many other clients has he stolen from? DCF workers will all be pissed he is denting the publics trust in them. They are under paid and over worked and have to be above suspicion. 😮 A full investigstuon needs to happen immediately. Freeze his assets, take his computer and phone, and lock him up so he can't get to a devise to make any corrections or hide his actions!! Trusted contacts /scammers are the worst!!😢
Have you ever had a dream that you, um, you had, your, you- you could, you’ll do, you- you wants, you, you could do so, you- you’ll do, you could- you, you want, you want them to do you so much you could do anything?
Yeah no dad in the picture at all. Unfortunately this isn't the case of teenagers doing a dumb mistake, and learning and growing from it. He's going to be a POS just the way he was raised to be. So mission accomplished mom I guess she got that going for her.
@@finchvalorI agree. I also grew up without my father but I was lucky enough to have uncles and older cousins to help me through somethings that my mother couldnt teach.
He’s such a liar too! On the phone he said he was doing a home quite loan and he’ll pay the money back, then in person he says it’s for his son. He said he picked the lady up off the floor when she fell and such, trying to make himself sound important and like she was feeble and confused. I wouldn’t be surprised if he pushed her and that’s why she falls.
I worked in a county jail and this repeat juvenile offender turned 17 and came to jail on his birthday. It took us long time to convince him he wasn’t going home. It was great😂😂
@@nexxusty lol. When I was in fed, I used to daydream about them just releasing me. And I thought I could make reports of mistreatment and they would just let me go. Heads up, they are allowed to mistreat you as much as they want 😂
@@godsrevolver9737 I was in solitary one time for 4 weeks from drug withdrawal and some crazy guy was singing R Kelly in the cell across from me 24/7. I was legit losing my mind after a while cause I had absolutely nothing to do. At some point they just released me without telling me beforehand and since I had so many dreams about being released I legit thought everything was fake and I was still dreaming for like 4 hours.
It doesn't bother you at all.That the state considers a seventeen year old and adult when they commit a crime but a minor when they want to do anything else, like vote?
@@ryanisbelle6107 when did I say that? I think 18 across the board should be legal. The courts should decide when a juvenile should be charged as an adult. It’s the law in Texas. I don’t pick and choose the laws to follow.
31:53 - The bearded guy in a white sweater is all of us when trying to get somewhere, stuck in a queue behind someone who's decided they're the main character in a drama of their creation.
Why that first guy sounds like a Dave Chappelle character.... And he lying his tail off. He knows he can't lie to save his life! "How do you know Mr Erik?"... "I met him" 😂
This mom who continually got her 16-year-old son out of trouble before him finally getting arrested as an adult was doing this young man absolutely NO favors. And save the tears young man, where you're going, you'll need 'em.
My youngest thought it was big and clever to shop lift he got caught they didn't want to involve the police so when I got him home I called the police when they arrived I left the room and left them to have a little chat, after they left he said sorry mom I won't do it again I don't want to get locked up. Apology accepted with a just so you know if you do I will call the police.
I noticed that too. I certainly wouldn’t mouth off to that guy! I’m only 4’11”… couldn’t imagine how short I’d look next to that officer. 😂 It might be a bit comical.
I had a young man helping to post on eBay..I think that was my biggest mistake, after watching this.I should never give phone and info to anyone again, my suspiciousness 😭 verified.
Okay so the guy who stole $2200+ from his employer thought he couldn’t be arrested as an adult, and since he’d just turned 17 I’ll bet he believed that gave him almost a full year to continue to steal without serious repercussions. Surprise! 😮😮😮
Yeah his mom should’ve nipped it in the bud when he first got caught as the saying goes. But the icing on the cake is that his mom have done absolutely nothing to steer him in the right direction so that makes her the enabler. Not saying the kid doesn’t know right from wrong, he knows exactly what he’s doing. Sometimes family doesn’t have any idea what their kids are up to, of course it happens, but not in this case!
My cousin is a heroin user. Her mother knows. She still gives her money when she shows up asking for $40 for gas, groceries, etc. Can't help herselfsteelslets her stay with her and steel from her over and over and takes advantage ogoodwimother's goodwill. I have nothing but sympathy for my aunt who cannot help but love her child unconditionally. I have nothing but contempt for my cousin who is a waist of space on this earth
I don't believe for a second that maggot's son needed surgery any more than I believe the guy with the gas can who tells me he just needs gas money to get back home to his son. Smh
That’s why laws have changed because before you could get a slap on the wrist and leave havoc around the community until your 18, we don’t want people under 18 in jail but if you steal 2200 you deserve everything you get
@@timgalivan2846 I'm surprised that lady didn't want to push charges. Does she actually believe that he's going to pay her back? He probably spent most of the money already, and probably has no income.
The delusion and stupidity of the 17 year old is off the charts. He is offended and upset that they “lied to him” about pressing charges? As if that somehow rises to some kind of wrongdoing when this fool just robbed them of $2200. He actually had to ask if he’s fired. Mommy can’t help you ya dirty thief!
You want something for nothing, well then steal things and you will get free room and board courtesy of a level of government like a county or state and the taxpayers. Three hots and a cot.
@@barbarat5729 I'm not sure what the cutoff amount is, but it might have been that $2k is felony material. A lot of states will charge people under 18 as an adult if the crime is severe enough to warrant it. Basically the idea is that if you were adult enough to commit these types of crimes, you're adult enough to be held responsible. The fact that dude already did this twice and _was just let go_ is just wild to me. When the hell did we start operating a 'catch and release' system as a society??
@@cookie5535 17 with parental consent so still a minor unless Federal Law changes, and it should. You can die for your country but you cant buy a beer.
In some states 17 is a minor, since a "minor" is generally defined as "someone under age 18". Sadly, quite a few criminals decide to start their sprees young, prompting states to alter the age they consider to be a minor.
Spencer is a real piece of work and I feel sorry for Donna. He snookered her, but she feels bad. I believe most jurisdictions have laws that say do estic violence will be prosecuted even if the victim won't press charges. I think we should have laws that make prosecution mandatory in cases of elder financial abuse. My SILs mother lived with her the 10 years of her life as she descended into Alzheimer's. Her SS check was deposited into her account and another daughter was joint owner. That sister kept siphoning off money and putting it in CDs in just her name; I think she got away with almost $8k before my SIL realized what was happening. SIL did go to the authorities but nothing was ever done.
My gaydar must be off with him? I mean it’s normally pretty good but he is supposed to have a kid, so unless adoption and all I am no longer trusting my instincts. I’ll end with I didn’t trust anything Spencer said, including about his “family”.
@@Mantuamakerive heard of a lot of gays here in the midwest with kids. A lot of small town gay dudes fake being straight or thought they were and have 1 kid lol
The 17 year old...wow, "I don't steal, that's not my thing..." and then steals 16 times. SMH🤣🤣🤣 Does not matter 'who' you stole it for, it's still theft...Bro
22:40 "Can I talk to Donna real quick?" "No, no. You can talk to her when you get here." before she looks up and smirks giving the little thumbs up. Hell yeah, Donna and Deputy Harrison
Why would the cops let Spencer be inMs. Donna’s presence while asking if she wanted to press charges against him?? He basically manipulated her into saying no and the cop just let it happen.
@@stvnsn That cop was horrible! So unconcerned, impatient and unhelpful as this elderly woman is confused and being taken advantage of. When she appealed to the Officer to act as an ally” you can be a witness. He said he’d pay me back.” The cop dismissed it with “I can’t attest to anything” instead of seeing that she didn’t trust Spencer‘s word , He met her confusion, not with any clarifying explanation or reassurance, Gave non-answers like” Well, then that would be a civil case so it’s up to you” most civilians are not going to understand what that even means. That officer could have held Spencer accountable with plenty of pointed questions that would expose him as a fox in a hen house.But No. That cop is such a disgrace. It turns my stomach.
@icu3869 He can't attest to it? That's not how it works. He is a storm officer. They testify all the time and his camera footage will be admitted into evidence, too.
When I was 5 years old, I took a plastic necklace that belonged to my friend across the street. Obviously my mom saw it as soon as we got home. Thus, my mom marched me across the street and made me knock on the door to give it back and apologize. I was in TEARS bc I was so embarrassed - when my friend was actually super nice/understanding about it. Anyway, that experience traumatized me so much that I've never stolen since & have no plans to either 😂😂😂
Yeah when I was a kid I stole a pack of gum. My dad noticed when we got to the car I was chewing gum and dragged my ass back into the store to return it, apologize, and pay for it out of my allowance. The cashier said to me "what you did was wrong your parents told you no but you grab the gum anyway and walked out of the store without paying for it. You can't do that. However when I did see you grab it and try to sneak it out poorly I paid for it because you were very well behaved and I overheard your birthday is this week. So I'm gonna ask your dad if you can keep the gum along as you promise to never steal again" I was 7 when that happened and well I've never stolen anything again. Because I was embarrassed and scared but thankful for the kindness of the cashier and manager.
We did the same thing to my daughter when she was that age and stole and handful of, get this…pinto beans from the barrel in the grocery store. Lol. She’s grown now and still remembers it.
When I was a kid we would buy patches to sew on the jeans. I stole on from Woolworth's that said "SCHOOL IS A DRAG" The cashier caught me and I was so scared. I was sent to the back of the store. Surprisingly they never even called my parents--probably because I looked like I was going to throw up. I guess they didn't remember me because a few years later I got a job in their cafeteria !!
For all we know, she's been trying to correct him, but once they reach a certain age, there's only so much a parent can do. At the end of the day, he's old enough to be accountable for his own actions.
@@xitheris1758True. My mom is raising my niece. She has commited so many crimes it's ridiculous. The police/judges do nothing. My dad is there but he can be blamed because he pretty much enables her activities because he has no back bone and spoils her too. I feel so bad for my mom. I wish she'd come move in with me but she don't want to live in CA, I don't blame her either for that choice. I don't want to be here either. I'm stuck till I can save enough to leave.
@@Atryxia-y7tyes it is, that family is probably so messed up 😂 best case scenario he hangs out with a homeless guy who he steals money for to “help him” and his bro (mother) doesn’t care about anything
@@BIaccCatyou're latching onto the language they use instead of the crimes they committed. What's the problem with using nicknames for eachother if its respected mutually? The problem is the mother allowing the criminal behavior, not the nicknames.
I love the screaming for help.🤣 I'm a handyman. A manager of a rental property called me one late evening after dark to do a temporary window cover with plywood. What I didn't know, was that the renter and his neighbor had it out for each other, and was the reason for the broken window. As I'm attempting to do my job, the neighbor decides that I'm on his property and he's screaming at me through an open window. I explain to him that I'm not on his property and that I'm a worker for the land owner of the property that I am on. He then threatens me and states he's coming out to beat me up (I'm keeping this clean where his words weren't). I retreated to my truck and called 911 as he came around the corner. He proceeded to bang on my window and curse at me. Then he steps away about 15 feet, while I'm still on the phone and calls 911 himself. Police arrive in literally under 2 minutes. Two of them escort him back to his place while the officer in charge talks to me. I tell him what happened, and one of the officers comes back. She asked me a few questions based on what she had listened to while she was standing there. Then she proceeds to go back to him, and all I hear is: "Why are you arresting me??? I'm the one who called you here! This isn't fair!" Without skipping a beat, she goes: "You were warned a half hour ago about this. You trespassed and threatened to kill someone. You can't do that!"🤣 The reason they showed up so fast was because the officers were just around the corner, writing up a report from an incident that had happened there prior to my arriving. The officers had warned both parties that if they received another call regarding them fighting at any time, they would be arrested. I guess the guy just wanted a night in jail by finishing the night off with felony level threats of violence.
@@CraigChrist8239 Your mama brought you into this world, she can take you out! Or so I've heard. I did call the cops on my son 5-6 years ago when he was out of control, and didn't let him come back home for about a year. He was homeless the whole time. He learned a lot from that, he's doing well now on medication for the last 4 years. He has schizophrenia, and that's my rule. Take your meds or live somewhere else! He effed around and found out that Mom doesn't tolerate some behaviors.
So she can’t confiscate the phone without a warrant. He is obviously lying but he wasn’t arrested nor did he allow them the right to check his items. If he had a good lawyer he could escape the criminal act for a few things
The 17 year old thought he could keep stealing until he was 18, surprise sweetheart - you going to jail. Now wipe those tears away and welcome to adulthood! 😂
Scammers do that too, they work a "legit" job where they can get access to people's private data. After my father died in 1996, my mother started getting harassment calls from "bill collectors" who claimed that my father took out a student loan for thousands of dollars for a 21 year old black woman who was an "exotic dancer" (among other things, quite the rap sheet). These creeps even told my mother that this bimbo was "probably" my dad's illegitimate daughter! Strange that when we got a copy of the loan agreement, it showed that my father signed it 4 DAYS AFTER HE DIED!!! The police found others who were scammed, all had recent deaths in their families. The scammers worked for Restland Funeral Home and cemetery and had been running this financial fraud ring for some time. They stole identity information from customers and used it to get loans before the deceased person's death certificate was registered with the county. Restland staff never reached out to us, never apologized for the pain my mother went through being harassed by scammers. My father was murdered, so my mother was already going through Hell and dealing with police detectives, she didn't deserve this cruelty too. We should have sued Restland. Those scammers got away with 100s of thousand$$$, maybe more.
"How do you know him"? "I know him" "Yes but where did you meet him"? "I know him" ...if you are you going to scam someone, you might want to take an IQ test first.
In what world would a company continue to retain an employee accused of theft? He is wanting to work off his amount of theft. Mom, you didn’t do a good job raising this young man and now he is a three time arrested thief. Shame, shame, shame!
I think $2200 must be a felony so if he was just charged with theft, they’ve already done him a favor. A felony at just-turned-17 would be hard to come back from.
@@vivelaresistance3239true but most likely it would be pled down significantly and likely offered a deferred adjudication expungement type situation provided he successfully completed the terms of the plea and subsequent supervision. I see it all the time people walk right out of prison and into a really desirable lucrative job and qualify for an apartment etc
I've been taking care of my elderly disabled Aunt for over a decade for free and I never once took a dime from her, I hate it when people steal from the elderly
I love when they yell "Help" like someone is gonna come push the cops off or get them out of a cop car and cuffs 😂 Absolute stupidity at its most natural form
The cops talking to the old lady with that douchecanoe standing right next to her were HORRIBLE! How dare they put her on the spot like that?? Also, it should not be up to victims to press charges. If someone breaks the law, they should be charged. No questions asked, especially to the victim.
@@LennyMiller739but you don’t interview a potential suspect directly next to the victim. that’s textbook 101. just like when police get called for DV situation they try to separate the 2 parties while they get both sides. having a potential suspect next to you can definitely sway what you say and do. while i agree the police shouldn’t automatically have the ability to require someone to press charges, sometimes it’s necessary especially in this case because that’s a vulnerable old lady who knows this guy has access to her and she might not feel 100% safe with him. use some common swnse
@@kithe304 II get that. But saying "if somebody had broken the law, they should be charged" doesn't make sense. Cops don't go on patrol with judges. Guilt is determined AFTER being charged
If a cop is giving you a Miranda warning, ALWAYS keep quiet and ask for a lawyer! You can’t talk your way out of a charge, but you can definitely talk your way into more charges lol
