When Copying gets morally sketchy | Art + chat 

Betsi, not only is Ur art so special and beautiful and inspiring, SO ARE YOU. Generous, sincere, unassuming, humble and so full of respect for others. This video touched me deeply, not only because of its content, or the charming little doodle, but because of Ur beautiful heart. ❤thank U.

This is sich an important topic for discussion and awareness to the world. Well done for discussing🌻

Proper use of social media is sharing other creators as intended. Stealing content and claiming it as one’s own is just theft. Same goes for copying other art in the process of learning techniques and skills, but the line is crossed if someone sells the copy as their own original art. Your work is lovely and greatly appreciated.

With true artists there is an enormous generosity.

1) I stumbled across your channel about a week ago and your drawings have ignited my creative spirit. After not picking up a drawing implement for years, I went out and bought a small notebook and a couple of decent ink pens. And I’m copying lots of elements of your drawings! But I’m NOT posting them anywhere, lol! Your techniques and instruction are simply infectious. The fact that so many of us are following you is testament to that. Thank you for making me feel like a real artist. I wish you could have heard what my husband said when he saw my sketchbook! 2)There is a special ring in hell for those who appropriate others work and talent for their own glory.

The highest form of recognition is to be copied.

I totally agree, one painting i did someone's sister inlaw took inspiration and did a similar yet different take on it, you could clearly see the similarities in it but it was different enough to be her own which was the most amazing feeling especially because at that point i didnt think my artwork was very good. I was actually very shocked they thought it was that good that they wanted to do something similar! But if it was copied exactly the same it would have been a different feeling and is the same reason i share videos to hopefully inspire someone to see that one thing they can apply to their own unique creations 🙏💖

Miss Betsi- I just found you. What a great composition artist you are. I, also, have been doing my own version of what is now called Zentangle since 1956. I find your designs quite inspiring and appreciate your honesty. You’re right. Recognizing and giving credit for inspiration has never hurt an artist. It only adds credit and trust to their own art. Thank you for such a good explanation. Vickie / STL MO U. S. A.

I was just showing your art with my sister and I told her that you are someone who I’d like to meet. You have such a sweet personality and I hoped that nobody was stealing your art. And here comes a brand new video on that subject. I’m so happy when artist brings this subject up; protect your beautiful art and I thank you for sharing with us. 💞

So sorry to hear that people have stolen from you, Someone once said that first you walk in someone elses shoes,(when learning) but eventually those shoes wear out and you get your own style, I just want to doodle, I do some Petrikivka art (for my own relaxation), but doodling is relaxing and I'm looking for something relaxing and not for making money. Thank you once again.

, you are an outstanding artist! Thank you for sharing so much!❤

You make this look effortless. I've tried this a dozen times and it still doesnt look as beautiful as yours. Your work is beautiful. You are one of 2 of my favorite to watch and learn from. Zentangle is something i discovered a few months and love it. Still learning and my work is not the best but i keep trying. The process has been great for my mental health. Thank you

I'm a bit shocked, but then pleased that you found that Instagram video! Everywhere people are so greedy, and it such a shame. I usually put on my FB that this was adapted from or inspired by.... Your videos inspire me all the time - thank you so much for that 🙂🌻

I was absolutely astonished what I created from one of your tutorials from never drawing this kind of thing before? Always admired this kind of work but never thought I could do it. I posted my creation on my FB page and all my friends were wowed but I gave you credit for the tutorial on my page because that is just common courtesy. It didn't come out of my head it came out of your head and hand. Thank you for taking me there I'm addicted now 😁

As someone who worked in a school library copyright is a major discussion we had with students. Unfortunately we had to have the same conversations with many teachers.

I had to double check my Instagram post from earlier today to make sure I tagged you🥰 I use your techniques but my designs are different but I still tag you. I don't draw for money I do it for healing. Please reach out if I ever over step. Thabk you for sharing your work with us. You are so inspiring!! I appreciate you!

I absolutely do not share what I don’t want copied.

I love your artwork. It is beautiful and I love the messages that come with it. I am very sorry that people can be so awful as to steal your work. I thank you for sharing your work and helping people like me draw and doodle with the knowledge you impart. Most people love to draw and doodle and if you can do this with some knowledge and be happy with what you have done that's a blessing and a very positive experience. I thank artists like you every day who put themselves out there so we can learn from your teachings.

17:57 You don’t think you’re talented??? I’m sorry, I have to disagree, Miss Betsi! You’re an inspirational artist PLUS a fantastic teacher!

I’m sorry people have taken from you, with out permission. I’m not sure how to share the drawing/doodle I just finished, but I’d love for you to see it. I have not drawn or doodled in ove 4 years and I just picked it back up. 4 years ago, I did not feel my work was enough. Tonight, for the first time I finished and was Simple excited about it. Thank you for putting content up and the RU-vid algarythem helping me find your work. I am extremely happy to support your art

I really admire your work. Your line work is so free! I copy your work hoping to figure out how you do that. The frustration of having your work stolen must be miserable. Thank you for sharing what you do.

Plagiarism, the passing off as your own, the work of someone else. You are not wrong to call it out. I love your work, truly amazing and inspiring x

I never make an exact copy of others work. Since I am still new at this I watch what others do and try to do the elements i love and try to add other elements from my head. I am aware of the " ownership" of others talent.

Yes, it's strange, some people seem not to understand. Someone I knew personally often put photos I made on her Facebook account, as if she made those herself. When I told her she could SHARE my photos, but not copy them without mentioning who made the photos, she reacted almost angry!

I understand exactly what you are saying... You are happy to "inspire" someone to be creative... But you do not authorize someone to use your content to further their own situation.....I agree with you. And I applaud you for being bold enough to tell that person that they are wrong. There is nothing wrong with standing up for yourself and protecting your beautiful artwork. It's a shame you would even have to confront anyone. Smh.... People won't put in the work to create for themselves... Instead they troll other peoples channels or pages... Committing artistic robbery. Sad.

I'm so sorry you've had to experience this kind of betrayal in our arting world. I totally agree with everything you've said. I think it's good that we, the "choir," are reminded of this because we may know of someone who is misrepresenting themselves with their art, and we can call them out. You don't want to think there are people who would do something like this, but you are right. Unfortunately, there are, and they shouldn't get away with it. We should be giving credit where credit belongs. I love your work, and as a beginner, studying your and other videos is truly how I learn. Instead of using the word copying, perhaps practicing your process might be a more palatable term for those of us who are genuinely trying to learn. I pray that we all help to keep each other honest with our craft, and I thank you for having this conversation. By the way, this piece is gorgeous. I'll be studying and practicing this one for a while because I can't seem to get the flow, shading, and then what to do with the edges that need some fill-in quote right on my own. I'm just so new! ❤❤❤

I am a writer. On several occasions I have had people blatantly steal what I have written and claim it as their own in public and even in published works. They didn't even have the sense to hide it! I have had people take credit for my artwork and photography as well. Obviously, artists inspire others. Why bother doing anything if it isn't inspirational? There is a big difference between being inspired to try something and replicating something with your own name on it. You can't let it make you bitter or stingy though. Give what you have gladly. Creating is risky business! You have a great attitude about it all. :)

I understand what you mean.. I notice lots of thieves harvesting other folks content! Its one of the reasons I haven't posted my own original doodles in a while. Plus, I was unsure if it was ok to mimic my favorite inspirational artists ( such as yourself 🤗). I always gave credit go who I !earned from just to illustrate how excited I get to learn ways to express my pleasure in achieving a higher level of skill Your narrative here is 100% spot on!! Thank You so much!!!! I really Love your design process here!! Please have a Lovely and Creative Week!!! Happiness Blessings To You and Yours!🙏🌹🙋‍♀️- Mindi

What an amazing and beautiful artist / person you are to share so people can learn. You absolutely deserve to be acknowledged for your art especially when someone has copied or taken your tutorial as their own. You have given me that push to get back into my drawing and following your videos helps stem my creativity. So Thank You!

I love to watch you draw you make it look so easy, I'm retired and I like to doodle you've opened my eyes to so many ways,my grand daughter love to draw I can't wait to show her your style thank you.

I do this for a hobby. I enjoy trying to draw what I see. It is satisfying when I do. These are my personal use, always on the back I write the original artist and where I got it. Sometimes on pinterest I see pictures I saved and when someone else saves it comes up saying " like this, let me know" as if I am the original artist. I apologize to anyone when this happens. I don't want to steal anyone's work.

On all my practice sketches from your videos I write "after Miss Betsi" an online teacher. Even if I don't share. If anyone found my work, took it, or I died, I don't want them to think they were original.Even if my copy is very poor quality. I do the same when I copy famous oil paintings for practice. They are all studies after a great artist, like you!

Copying has been a part of how we learn to make art for as long as people have made art. Sitting in museum galleries sketching from the collection was, historically, an important part of any artist's education and training. Unfortunately, that historical practice has fallen by the wayside.

Thank you for this video. It's such an important topic. I can really relate because I have two self-published books and they are constantly pirated. As a small business I don't have the capacity to go after the pirates but every time I get a notification it pisses me off. Just have to let it go though. Anyhow, I really appreciate your thoughtful comments, you're willingness to share and inspire! If I ever start posting my work to Instagram, I will be sure to tag you and mention any image I make that has some inspiration from your work.

Ty for sharing this and let me commend you for putting this so succinctly that I believe it is a master class in the subject of thievery that applies to the digital world and the world in all aspects of creativity. I agree with you wholeheartedly! Whilst in my effort to not ramble on…I’ll share that I just received the pens you’re using here, and so generously shared with us (I used the link), and hope you receive the stipend for my purchase. Today I will be using them on my journey to add ink, to my quest to remain calm, keep my wits about me and hopefully my blood pressure and heart rate down. I could never thank you for all you’ve brought to my life so far, and I’ve just recently found you. 🙏 So very grateful! 💜🌻

In my mind I could NEVER claim someone else's artwork is mine because I KNOW I didn't create it! What benefit would I get - it's lying to myself... However, there will always b ppl w/o a conscience and will steal anything for the sake of it... Your artwork is amazing and INSPIRES me to create...

I know everyone says they have it. But there’s a big difference with someone with a real learning disability ❤

I can not thank you enough for your, art, wonderful instruction, the calm I feel when listening, watching and learning from you and the art you are so willing to share. Because of multiple issues with my spine, I have had to give up the many artistic persuits I have found great joy and pride. The litany of those pursuits as well as those I found suscess in, mainly painting florals in watercolor ( I love painting and drawing leaves) I can no longer enjoy due to the limitations of my back and neck. I found your wonder art, I love shading and just doodling. I always have pencils and ink pens and have a collection of drawings pinned up on the walls of my art room. I carry a small art journal with me now all the time. Yours lit up my mind and I thought "could I do this"? Well yes I can, not with the gentle flowing of ink to paper you display. But when I do copy and practice your work dispite the fact that they are nowhere as beautiful as yours, I always feel like Im stealing a portion of you. Thank you so much for not only knowing what I do is ok with you, but learning a new skill from you and honing my own. Oh! and I have always shown and mentioned your videos to those who see my own work. I am lucky to have found your site.

First time here; I was mesmerized watching you draw. Very relaxing and listening to your message and your soothing voice was a good experience. I like that you are humble and sincere. Don't sell yourself short though, you are a good artist and have intuitive talent.

Your art ideas are the only "doodles" I've managed to emulate that made me feel good. I've tried "copying" many many other doodly art styles before, and my attempts always looked horrible to the point where I thought I was doomed. But I tried those fanned leaves from Aug 7th the other day, and they looked good. My brother even glanced at it and said "huh, I didn't know you could draw" and I've shown him lots of things I've drawn before... So thank you! You've shown me that I'm not doomed, I just need to keep experimenting.

He knew exactly what he was doing.

I guess you helped me understand stealing. In my mind, I steal from you all the time. For example, this video you're doing leaves. If I were to tag you you'll be deeply confused because what comes out from the thought of drawing leaves is nowhere near what comes. Basically, it's motivation and inspiration to get started, but frankly, it isn't stealing at all. So thank you for your inspiration.

I love this! I would love to put something like this on top of a watercolor background. I know that these pens aren't waterproof, but you could totally do a drawing/design like this on top of dry watercolor.

Miss Betsy…….I have really enjoyed your videos but this one was the best. Thank you for putting things right. Now they know the difference and hopefully this will be a better world. Thank you, thank you and thank you again. You are one awesome lady ……and talented too.

Thank you!!! What you said needed to be said! I sure love your work! I am learning how to create beautiful drawings from your tutorials. You are so amazing.

Thank you very very much for showing the start to finish in close to real time with the shading. It is very beautiful! Thanks for taking into consideration my suggestion on adding the shading to the video too :)

Your doodlings are absolutely mesmerizing. Thank you for sharing your passion and inspiring others to create something beautiful 💚

I understand where you are coming from as an artist myself. I and a few of my art friends Copyright our work with watermarks. Not sure if it is possible on RU-vid. I am so sorry you were taken advantage of, I feel it in your demeanor. ❤

😊 i absolutely agree. This is a matter of personal integrity!

Couldn’t wait to wake up and watch ❤

Thank you for bringing this subject up because it is definitely something we all need more awareness of. You were so kind in your description of the problem and calm. That too brings a civil tone to this serious topic. I greatly appreciate your work and your integrity in helping all to understand this topic more clearly.

Thank you we are listening.. don't ever stop showing us your beautiful videos and masterpieces🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻

On the pictures I drew from watching your videos, I put from Miss Betsi at the top. Or whoever’s page I got it from, I am trying to learn but also believe in giving credit to the original artist.

And meanwhile in the world of zentangling..... people copy a simple pattern, from others, and some add their own 'flair' to the design..... lol. i always credit the person i got the pattern/ideas from. Mostly out of just plain descency. i like the way you fill in the negative spaces and heavy outlining. :)

Dear Miss Betsy, your work is absolutely gorgeous! I have just subscribed to your channel. Every thing you have discussed in this video is on point! What that person did was not honorable at all. That person was taking your creative work whether subtle or not, and claiming it as their own. That is thievery…Period!!! Shame on that person for doing that. On a lighter note, I must say that, as I try to follow along with you, trying my best, to be creative, your voice is so soothing to me. Sketching while listening to your voice is the best ASMR that I have come across! Thank you Miss Betsy. Keep up the great and very inspirational work. We appreciate you 😊🙏🏽💖

Betsi, you are inspirational to me! I have never feel this way with any drawings before and I am feeling very joyful! ❤

You ARE good. Great, in fact, in my mind anyway, and in many others, I'm sure. I actually attempt to copy your drawings in order to get the method and technique down, but they're hardly recognizable, and I certainly wouldn't share and try to pass it off as my design. But copying is how I learn, and I can't even express how grateful I am to have discovered you and to you for constantly sharing. So thank you...again.

Thank you for all you do much love ❤❤❤ if I ever create from your creations and share I will add your link for sure your a sweetheart … I’m here to get inspired to start creating again 🤗🤗🤗

❤️❤️❤️Your tutorials are better than therapy for me❤️❤️❤️❤️Thank you!❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

I'm inspired by this. Beautiful!

There is so much of that going on over at Insta. I've seen so many artists that have had their stuff stolen. It's horrible

This was awesome. Sorry you’ve had negative experiences with that but you deal well with it. It is good to hear your perspective regarding the ethical line that can be easily crossed without fully comprehending the consequences, however, as the judge will tell you, ignorance of the law is not a defense. On a different note, I love the process you’ve shown in your tutorials and I’m impressing myself(mostly an appreciator of art, not usually a creator) with attempting to copy your process as I learn how to create the shapes and learn shading. So…thank you so much for that. Sorry for the tome.❤

Thank you for your amazing work. I think a simple ‘inspired by’ is the right thing to do. It acknowledges the original and also showcases any progress made.

I didn’t but will do it from now on. I use your work as inspiration for my own interpretations but I definitely think u deserve a shout-out for that👍!

You are absolutely right!

I have just discovered Miss Betsi on youtube. I think you are doing a grand job from what I have seen... I will definitely be trying your patterns for my journal. Thank you for sharing your talent... Robin

This is so wrong ! As a fellow artist I feel for you and support you, keep standing up for yourself and reporting these scammers.

Your artwork is amazing. I get not bragging about yourself and your accomplishments but let me assure you, you are really good.

Loved watching you drawing whilst you where talking ... I feel for you because I feel for me an artist my self. And yes, I would be more than sad and distraught if I discovered someone else stole my Work! .... Being inspired by someones artwork is happy. Pretending someone else's artwork is ones own is Not! Sorry to say, but from what I learned from other artists, the Chineese are very much involved in this kind of greed !

@Miss Betsi Something that's morally wrong can be just as bad as stealing. The people who copy your art down to the circle (you draw circles 😊) may not be getting financial gain but they are still getting visual gains. People are thinking that picture belongs to the thieves advertising it which could hurt you down the line. What if people are looking at the thieves as the originator and come after you as the thief? Don't apologize for feeling however you feel. I can appreciate you giving thought to what's going on despite your feelings about it. Emotions aren't logical so it's good to go over things logically. Just as there's a thin line between love and hate, there is a thin line between admiration and thievery. Thank you for sharing. You've given me food for thought about something that wasn't on my mind to think about. Stay Awesome. Stay Blessed. ❤‍🔥❤‍🔥❤‍🔥❤‍🔥❤‍🔥❤‍🔥

I see your art work and I get so excited and want to learn how you do it. I really enjoy your videos.

A very informative video your work is lovely!

so sorry that you had to go through that.. my son is an digital artist and gets commissions and that is how he makes his living. some body stole his images and even went so far to put his own name on the images and tried to pass them off as his own art. however.. my sons work is quite recognized and people started messaging him to tell him what this person had done. what a mess trying to get that all straightened out legally. it made him so upset.. and of course it would. I enjoy your videos so much.. you have been such an inspiration and are the reason i have delved into doing zentangling. i have learned so much in the last week.. you make it look so simple. i did indeed do one of your tutorials... and shared my result on my facebook page. it was different than yours, because i dont follow instructions well.. lol.. , and i told everyone that it was inspired by a video tutorial on youtube, however did not name you . ( im old and had forgotten your name to be honest as you were just one of many zentangle videos i had watched before settling on one to learn from ) i will go back and change that though, to make sure that my friends know who to look for on youtube. you do awesome work and i am so glad there are people like you that are there to help people who are new to this kind of art to find their focus. Only a couple of weeks since i discovered this zentangling and i am currently participating in the Inktober 2023 and loving it... that is because of you. thank you. :)

I don't really share my drawings beyond family & friends, but even with that, I let them know who or what I've been inspired by. If for no other reason than possibly pointing them towards someone or something to look at as well. It's just the nice thing to do. But you have pointed out something to me. I have noticed that a few of "my" pins have been removed on Pintrest. I add something I like so that I can look at it later. Now I wonder if people think those pins are mine. Something I need to look into. I've just never thought about an online presence like that before.

This happens all the time. My daughter had her documentary footage stolen on youtube and tiktok and the robbers made money out of it.

I would like to tell you that you are amasing and drawings that you do have inspired me even helped me to overcome latest troubles in my life. So please do continue your work. I admire composition in your drawings and how everything blends into one amsing picture. 😊😊 thank you

And everyone should read "Steal like an artist" by Austin Kleon

Hello! I just found you yesterday, but this video convinced me to subscribe. I agree with your point about stealing. There's a button somewhere in the YT videos to report these thieves. Thank you for your beautiful tutorials and for inspiring us non artists, who just love to draw :) 😊

I love your work. When I look at it I feel so uncoordinated😄, but I will get there. You're very encouraging.

I think the problem is that if someone saves your video on RU-vid it can save it as public in the account that saves it. I didn’t even know I had a channel until I found out that I had 13 followers! I think that RU-vid shares stuff that folks have saved for their own use not knowing that it was saved as public in their account. I know their are people that do steal content but some times they don’t know their saved videos are being posted by the RU-vid algorithm. Just a thought.

Your version of zen tangle is beautiful. I do not draw, but I am a free motion quilter. I would love to try quilting this version of leaves.

Love your channel ❤

thank you for talking about this touchy subject, I think even more prevalent ini the zentangle world. I'm sure you're aware of the huge battles regarding AI. Will be interesting to see where this takes us. Thank you for sharing your incredible talent.

Thank you

Love your creations, I have been doodling on my paint pours trying to get similar creations like yours. I wish I could show a photo here. One day I might do a video and share with my viewers but I promise to put a link to your channel if I decide to create on video. Your amazing to learn from thanks so much for sharing❣️❣️👍😁🇨🇦👩‍🎨

I do copy artwork I admire….but I make sure I’ve changed it….and add original work by….or inspired by the work of….to anything I give as a gift. NEVER sell as mine someone’s work. It is theft and in this new AI world it happens all to often. Big name artists have had their work turn up in books they don’t know about. Thank you for sharing your talent and concerns. 20:15

Thank you for this, it really clarified some of the thoughts I’ve had floating around my head (they do that at lot 😂) Thinking about it, virtually every artist is inspired by, learns from, or is taught by, another artist. You very often see it being talked about even with the great masters throughout history. And techniques and tools are definitely learned. My grandmother taught me how to use oil paints. I used her technique for painting eg trees at first, but I never copied her subjects, I was inspired by different ones. I was hugely inspired by Aubrey Beardsley at one time, I used his technique a lot, but never actually copied his subject matter. I still have that inspiration many decades later. I think that’s why I like your art so much, there is something about it that feels similar. Of course years ago before social media people could get away with outright copying other people much more easily, as long as you weren’t exhibiting in a prestigious gallery you could copy a painting and sell it and no one was any the wiser, I’m sure that went on. Now everyone wants clout on social media and many don’t care whether the clicks and likes are actually for their own effort or just for reposting someone else’s. Which is sad, because they are kidding themselves, and somewhere deep down they know that. Out and out stealing for profit is a different thing, and that’s always happened, with everything. Many artists, particularly makers of sculptures and art dolls, are having their photos used by Chinese companies who scam people into parting with cash for something they never get, it’s a huge issue and all over the big selling sites. You are right about people taking inspiration making you happy, it really does. Teaching something to someone and seeing them succeed is the best 😊

I give you credit when I do anything that you sparked me to try. I am a very new follower but I've been an artist for decade's. Credit due is credit due!!!!

Thank u for ur work cause I love ur teaching and I have now become a doodle nut. I never knew where to begin and now I think about it everyday and want to add more to my page. I only so far have used pencil and my stuff is so unlike yours but I certainly picked up a few key things. I actually think this is the 2nd vid I've watched of yours but have subscribed. I am new and novice but thank u for ur inspiration.

Even though some other channels offer some of your approaches, and I follow them, yours has a dynamic which inspires to think creatively. Such as what would your leaf be in color or done smaller or very large? Thank you for your offering of this art.

I'm rediscovering some long-buried artistic talent. I also just discovered your channel and am so inspired to follow your tutorials. (So beautiful, "organic", natural!) In the near future I may have the opportunity to display artwork that incorporates your "techniques" at my church or other local venues (but never online). If so, I would want to give you credit in some way, if that is appropriate, possibly in a little backstory note about my inspiration or creative process. Any suggestions that apply to real artwork on walls? The answer may be simple, but I'm new to this! Thanks.

I sale cards, I use stamps, I don’t copy what I see with the stamps or reproduce someone card. I make it my own and put my touch on it I can’t even make the same card twice and I have a lot of cards. When doing pattern drawings even if you copy someone’s drawing it can maybe look like it but it will never be it because it’s done with a different hand. So I do see we’re your coming from and understand also to make something your own from something you see has to be changed 80% and that makes it yours. So if your going to change something just do it 100% and then it’s inspired by you and a credit to you would be nice.

I'm learning so much from you. How to draw leaf how to draw petal and I'm inventing some new art though not as good looking as yours but your art is really helping me improve my art. And I got afraid looking at the title. I was like oh no I did something wrong. But it was completely different topic. How could they just like that steal other work.

It's an interesting question you pose...at what point does copying become stealing? Its simple to solve, just tag the artist whose inspiration you used. Unfortunately, I've learned that not everyone operates by a similar set of ethics to me or you and if they can take something for free, they will. You should see what goes on in some of the buy nothing FB groups and digital art. Anyhoo, keep doing what you do Miss Betsi; you've become my inspiration and i will continue to credit you whenever i share my work 💜

I am so sorry this happened to you, such a personal violation! I love your videos and would love to post pics of my work but I'm only on here, not other social media Thank you for your time and efforts ❤

OH! I see this happen a LOT with other creators. I know this one Bushcraft creator who is VERY popular and some took all of his videos and posted them at you tube as if it was their own content. NO. That is outright stealing. And yes, some don't really understand that they are stealing. Other know darn well what they are doing, and they are looking to make money from clicks/views, etc. I would NEVER take credit for someone else's design. Whenever I work from a tutorial, I always post it saying that I used a tutorial and I name them.

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I always follow along with you, but mine never looks as good as yours 😂 I don’t put mine on social media yet, but when I do I will be more than happy to tag you ❤ I’m a painter and I always tag other painters when ppl put their work up- it is only fair I think.

thank you so much for the wonderful drawing you just did and for the inspirational conversation. Having never tried art of any kind until almost 3 years ago, I didn’t even think I could draw a stick figure. Then I found Zentangle and I am amazed at what I have created over the last three years, but I still am lacking in thinking up my own ideas to draw so to speak. I follow lots of videos and like you say they come out quite different than the original, but I always try to tag the creator because I couldn’t even think of claiming it as my own. Like others have said in the comments I read, if you ever see anything that I have done, and I’ve crossed any lines, please be sure to let me know, because it would be purely unintentional. Even after three years of drawing, I still rarely can just put pen to paper and draw first line and see where it goes. I am learning 😂, But at almost 77 years old, let’s hope I learn soon although my mother did live to be 102, so I may still be around for quite a few years. 🤪❤️

Isn't that a form of plagiarism? I take screen shots for my own gallery so I can learn from you. Your work is awesome. Wish I knew what pens to use. Went shopping today and had a few in my hands but put them back because I wasn't sure if they were the right ones. Didn't see any with the point that u use. I would love to do a wolf howling at the moon,(for my son)" but don't know what kind of doodle to put around it. I was thinking ribbons for the night sky but don't know what else to do. Any suggestions