When F1 Teams Try To Break The Rules… 

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And that got me thinking... if team had idea of a grey area.. who else they can clarify without other team stealing your idea?

I don't understand the FIA sometimes, it just looks like they have no authority

Almost like lego and MOC builders lol

Either everyone can do these or no one can, that's all there is to it

Well it’s just a purpose alliance between them. They just unite, if it comes to new regulations and reforms by FOM and FIA, doing everything to hold the small teams dependent on them. Wolff and Horner are not really buddies drinking beer together, I am sure

I can confirm literally there are no such kids so find another analogy

Yea true

Russell*

@@l.v.3952 fuck me, I missed a L! It’s not that deep 😂 go get a hobby instead of crawling through comments just to correct people 🤣

@@Wohlstandsmuell I’d be careful! Most people have stock put down lines. I have a private detective who bums people!

@@Wohlstandsmuell he’ll take the rohypnol himself so he can forget about you

@@Wohlstandsmuell you gonna bark all day doggy, or are you gonna bite?

Red Bull*

Love my parents arguing, hypes me up for the divorce

@AST Poentiefishy Red Bull*

@@katlegokgotse dont be stupid and pretend it isnt merc also.

Before 2005

@Akash Verma Exactly. Mercedes has never protested another team. Complain, sure but they have never once formally protested another team. The same cannot said of redbull who formally protested DAS. Ferrari also protested the blown rear axle.

@@Bahamuttiamat how do you think merc has never protested against a team

@@Jusuff begore 2010, pre merc

@@Bahamuttiamat hahahha

_We can make a religion out of this_

@@leonard3374 a man of culture is see

@@leonard3374 exactly what i came up on mind

teacher is better but yeah

Welcome to F1 teams, they all do it

Well with millions on the line instead of a biscuit

@@valcant940 money biscuits

Yeah but the only difference here is that the mom favors one of the child .

So he says "I'm Mr.Controversial."

Who wouldnt tho? If you wont do what it takes to win a championship you are wrong in f1

@@Infiltator2 But that doesn't mean you can complain. As Ron Dennis said,the rival teams need to accept the innovation challenge and go even further,not complain.I have never seen Mclaren complaining about anything because that's the real spirit.

@@Infiltator2 Every time the FIA release their rule book for the upcoming season, engineers from every team will try and figure out how to push and even bend those rules to their advantage. It tends to be that when a team is able to introduce a new technology not covered by those rules, one of three reactions would occur. Either the new technology is admired, it is ignored, or people complain that it must be breaking the rules and thus a punishment should be handed down. I think in engineering, you can either be proactive or reactive. Proactive is to take the initiative and try and make your product better than everyone else's. Reactive is to simply wait until someone does a better job than you then complain about how life is not fair. The reality is that Mercedes has been doing a far better job in recent years and the only chance Red Bull has had has been to complain about everything. Do not get me wrong though. Max Verstappen was doing a brilliant job in Baku and I felt sad for the guy when his tire failed on the main straight so close to the end. With how dominant Hamilton has been in recent years, it takes someone truly special to be able to compete against Lewis on the track, however, that is where the racing should take place.... on the track, not the boardroom.

@@myk1137 Indeed. F1 is all about finding the grey area's. Honestly, this tends to be the difference between most the other teams and Red Bull in my eyes. Other teams look to innovate, find things that aren't in the regulations and make it happen. Red Bull seem to prefer finding things that are in the rules, strictly prohibited, and working out how they can pass the test for it anyways. When another teams finds something geninuely inventive, or they just do something totally legal better then anyone else, Red Bull are like "THATS NOT FAIR BAN IT!"

Neither because they'd both claim the other was gaining an unfair advantage from where in the cage they were starting from...

Would you really want to be in a fight with Toto?

This comment is underrated on the straights and overrated in the corners

Flexi wings ❌ Flexi rules ✅

Breaking

@@bobbob123ful ok

also literally the moment infamous "Fan Car" was introduced/seen on track, Collin Chapman said its illegal.

This was said after that double brake pedal thing.

@@myk1137 I know but the message can be applied to any innovation.

@@SirMsuni Yeah

thing is though not every team has the resources to "rise to the technical challenge" so F1 has to balance innovation with cost

Exactly, but don't tell these fanboys, who are hellbent on turning a clear pro-Merc bias for allowing the test into an anti-Merc bias by banning it eventually

yeah..belive that...guess Mercedes told you that right? xD

Yeah, Russell was reminded to use DAS during the safety car period.

It was the already had speed

Yes DAS was mainly used to put heat in the front tyres. So it was used in safety car scenarios or when qualifying. Was not used much during actual races. It was evident for who watched the on boards or followed replays when the commentators noticed it.

@@Lunarfox That is a lie.

Merc goes to protest once just once and you sat they both bad??

@@katlegokgotse Mercedes has never formally protested anything.

@@Bahamuttiamat can it be because they never had a real challenge?

@@3XICS no because they were in the midfield for their first 4 seasons

@@3XICS What does that have to do with anything?

Except they didn't protest they just threatened to 🙄

@@kityhawk2000 Yes, because they would have lost their protest. They even acknowledged that.

They just complained. Never protested, never tried. The only time they protested was probably pre merc.

"It would make the driver pass out from the massive g-forces" that already happened in the US iirc

@@GloomGaiGar true. Maybe they could survive it with super tight jet suits.

I’m not saying you’re wrong, but did you watch f1 from 2010-2013 (when red bull was on top)? Red bull were under fire A LOT back then.

@@roxss6538 this vid is about merc v rb, so looks like merc might’ve not officially complained back then about anything on the rb

@@_mundi bc they werent fighting for the top.

Irrelevant but Russell partying is a new vibe

@@roxss6538 they weren’t really. Apart from the Flexible front wings in 2012, they were pretty much left alone. They even protested Brawn’s double diffuser in 2009.

Red Bull be like:Imma complain about this because I don't want to innovate anything.FIA should just ban the teams that complain about innovations.Innovation is what keeps this sport alive.Some people complain that innovation gives the team a big advantage.Then apply that innovation to every car on the grid(If the team accepts ofc. You know,it might be against the philosophy of the car.)

they had a year headstart in the development of their engine. That's the reason why they've been so far ahead.

@@OnionChoppingNinja a year headstart and NO ONE managed to catch up since then? Ferrari had to cheat just to get close lol

@@GloomGaiGar Well if you sink as much cash into your F1 project as AMG been doing the last 7 years. Makes it kinda hard for the competition to catch up if you're already a lap ahead. Besides Red Bull might have caught up sooner if they had the same commitment from Renault in those early days of the Hybrid era as they've been getting from Honda these last 3 years.

I mean its facts🤷‍♂️

It's that Karen Horner's fault.

@@matthewthomas2546 u have to be at least a decent team principal to have 4 championship lol

@@matthewthomas2546 he isnt qny worse than toto

@@Gl-my8fw based on this video he is

Mercedes has not officially protested Redbull yet, they just put it out in the media.

@Richard Lewis Das was never used such an extent. Only to warm up front tires.

@@Bahamuttiamat there are plenty of on boards of them using it during hot Laps in Quali and FP. Preseason testing was a good example, used on hot Laps frequently.

@@MaavRickk There are zero videos of DAS being used on a hot lap. In testing maybe, but never during the season.

Merc didnt even have the highest budget on the grid.

@@J.D.... yea but Ferrari are clowns lol

F1 has been pay to win since (basically) 1983 with the start of the first turbo era - the only time since then that a team without a massive budget has won was 2009 with Brawn GP and even they had a car that had huge amounts of money sunk into it because Honda had put all their resources into the upcoming rule change before pulling out in the '08-'09 off season

What delusions are you living under that makes you think that F1 hasn't been pay to win for the majority of it's existence?

@@shawnpitman876 Before several teams and several drivers won, when they won two consecutive years was considered a huge achievement. Many drivers won races with few competitive cars, such as Piquet. Nowadays the same pilot wins over and over again.

well, DAS was an incredible innovation that only they engineered and got banned because no other team would be able to do it during the season. Meanwhile Flexi wing is something that is clearly illegal even if Mercedes are doing it

@@santiago-cb9lf no team would/could care to invest in developing the technology (redesigning from zero the whole frot suspensionen an stearing system) because already before seasons start, during testing, they knew the technology was going to be banned next year

@@JotaSE30 ask Mercedes front wing about moving aerodynamic bodywork and regulation!. Truth is, F1 has always been about finding the grey area in the regulation (again none complined about DAS during 2020, they just corrected regulation for 2021). The aim is the pass the test (load test in this case). How the wings behave after that thershold is not specified in the regulation and thus allowed, everyone knows it and everyone does it (Mercedes included, just not as much). Problem is that the test to pass at the beginng of the year, accordig to which everyone design their car, and tonwhich everyone agreed to was one thing, and now, under pressore from one single team (should i Say 4?), is a different one. Its like if we are competing at running 100m, I train for 100m and i'm great at 100m but I gas off at 110m. You suck att at 100m but you can hold the same pace for 400m. Would't be a problem for me because race is 100m so I would win.. but suddenly you get to complain an change the rules so we run 400m instead. It's unfair because you get to change the scope of the test for which I optimised my training (designe our case) for.

Merc ran a toe-in to heat up the tyres. Something they're struggling with this season.

Red bull protests others... this the first Mercedes-Benz protest as we call all clearly see

And is still a huge advantage.

suuuuuure...mercedes said so..so it must be true

You have 10 years of idle time?

There are some weird rules about not copying each other, though.