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When is the right time for PH to invoke its Mutual Defense Treaty? 

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#LongConversation | Retired Rear Admiral Rommel Ong believes it is too early for the country to invoke its Mutual Defense Treaty with the United States.
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@raymondukit6807
@raymondukit6807 Месяц назад
Kahit i-invoked o hindi, hindi lang sa Philippine President nakasalalay ang desisyon kundi kailangan ng mutual agreement sa lahat ng parties na kasali. Kahit isipin ng Philippine President na i-invoked ito (malabong mangyari kung walang pagsang-ayon ng U.S. kasi talagang iiwas yan sa diplomatic crises), ang ganoong invocation ay parang formality lang. Ang United States, na nag-maintain ng strategic ambiguity, ay may flexibility na umalis kung kailangan, para protektahan ang kanilang interes at iwasan ang public embarrassment na nangyari sa Vietnam at Afghanistan. Ang tanga-tanga natin kung akala natin may kontrol tayo sa sitwasyon kung ang labanan ay sa pagitan ng Estados Unidos at Tsina. Kahit pa, sa swerteng palad, mabola natin ang U.S. President na sumuporta sa atin, ang mutual defense pact ay bound sa constitutional process ng Estados Unidos. Ano ang ibig sabihin? Kailangan ng approval mula sa U.S. Congress. At ano ang nangyayari? Kailangan ng suporta ng American people, kung hindi, magiging katatawanan lang ang mga politiko sa U.S. at baka hindi na sila iboto ulit ng mga tao. Ang press release ng DND pag nandito na ang mga Kano, magdadalawang-isip na ang mga Instik. Ano nangyari? Obvious naman, hindi umubra ang power talk, lalo pang lumala ang sitwasyon. Natakot ba ang mga Instik o lalong naging garapal at tumapang? Clearly, hindi naging deterrent ang presence ng mga Kano. Eh ano ngayon ang dapat? Hindi uubra ang hard power, that's for sure. Daanin sa Soft power. Dapat merong diplomatic missions na labas ang mga kano sa usapan, student exchanges, pop culture exchanges, tourism, scientific collaboration, joint projects-maraming areas ng collaboration na pwede nating i-explore. Kaya napakabobo niyo kung akala niyo na kapag humingi tayo ng tulong sa Estados Unidos, tutulong agad sila sa atin. Parang pag nagsumbong ka sa kuya mo, sigurado ka bang makikipagsuntukan siya at kung nakipagsuntukan siya, sigurado ka bang panalo siya? Yung power talk, yabang, bakbakan, muscle talk, may binabagayan yan, at wala tayo sa posisyon para mag-angas ng ganyang lenguahe. Dapat pag-igihan mo lahat ng paraan para iwasan ang giyera, kung hindi man, para manatili lang ang status quo na matagal nang nasa lugar.
@I_upload_Akira_memes
@I_upload_Akira_memes Месяц назад
True
@AT-rs9jz
@AT-rs9jz Месяц назад
US will surely help cause they don’t want to see the world view them as a unreliable partner especially when the world is watching.
@arnoldmanzano5064
@arnoldmanzano5064 Месяц назад
Ikaw dapat ang nasa upuan ni Heydarian. Hindi ko alam bakit siya binibigyan ng platform ng mainstream media. He is just an armchair expert with practical experience in war prevention and diplomacy.
@shadowheart2337
@shadowheart2337 Месяц назад
@@arnoldmanzano5064 pro US yan eh. expert daw yan pero nakalimutan nya noon 2012 nagalit ang america ng nadawit sila dahil sa MDT, mismong is H clinton na ang nagsabi na hindi makikialam ang US pagdating sa territorial dispute dito palang makikita mo na ayaw ng america madawit sa gulo tapos heto tyo umuasa parin kay uncle joe.
@carribyanadventures
@carribyanadventures Месяц назад
Yung rule of play sa mdt na explain mo. But when push comes to shove.....tandaan mo ito, mag iiba timpla ng sinasabi mong desisyon ng american people sa mdt pag sila ang inagrabyado. Ginagamit na nga tayo ss warplay nila sa China dahil nga daw 1st Chain tayo sa indopacific. Meaning una tayong makikipaglaban kung me gyera.....gusto man natin at sa ayaw. Yan dapat ang iginigiit natin dahil strategy pa nila noon yan na ikulong ang gyera malayo sa lupain nila. Kung mGmamatigasan ang pinoy sakaling lupa nila ang paligiran? Sa tingin mo, hindi manggigiit ang US niyan? Kalokohan.
@wiltanschannel82
@wiltanschannel82 Месяц назад
MDT is the card. Dont throw your Ace early just to loose it.
@princekeemeraroma
@princekeemeraroma Месяц назад
for small craft, what if you put spikes around it so they couldnt ram you?
@marieeleonorespiritu4737
@marieeleonorespiritu4737 Месяц назад
I like this format
@SamSung-mj6lg
@SamSung-mj6lg Месяц назад
Tanong ko din to!
@Billy_Almighty
@Billy_Almighty Месяц назад
Madaling iinvoke, ang importanteng tanong ay ano ang isasagot ng US kung iinvoke ng Pinas yan. Kasama ba yan sa MDT noong 1950's at kung ano ang ibibigay na itutulong ng US sa Pilipinas.Political ba? Military Supplies? or makikipagbarilan sila against China para sa Pilipinas.
@jhustbie
@jhustbie Месяц назад
The question is how long can we wait for the President to invoke MDT
@winzmiaga221
@winzmiaga221 Месяц назад
@@jhustbie I think the you mis interpret the MDT. The MDT is always active. the consultation of manila and Washington are always in full swing.. Imost interpretations think that MDT is a war(kinetic). There are other options such as economic war, which china and u.s have been clashing since 2016 UpTo date.
@shadowheart2337
@shadowheart2337 Месяц назад
@@winzmiaga221 dami eck eck d mo naman sinagot ang tanong kung kailan ma iinvoke ang MDT. Ang tamang sagot dyan ay kung papayag ang congress nila, wala sa kamay ng mga pinoy ang pag activate nyan. Kahit pa salakayin ang pinas ng china kung sa tingin ng congress nila hindi wala tyo magagawa. kaya nga ganito ang sitwasyon natin dahil hindi natin alam kung maasahan ba natn ang america baka pag namatapang tayo tapos umabot sa punto na nagbabakan na ang navy natin at china tapos hindi pumayag ang US congress e paano tyo.
@LeeSkJohn-sv8wi
@LeeSkJohn-sv8wi 19 дней назад
As if philipines can use USA whenever they wishes. Keep dreaming. USA is the master and you are slaves that will move under USA command. USA just informed Philippines spratlies is not Philippines territory when the MDT was signed in 1951. Still don't get the point?.
@zeusbalmaceda4334
@zeusbalmaceda4334 Месяц назад
Dude, Richard. Thor IS NOT A MEMBER of the JUSTICE LEAGUE. Maybe you mean AVENGERS.
@Cleanyourearsbro
@Cleanyourearsbro Месяц назад
Out of all that, this is the topic you chose to talk about? My goodness 🤦‍♂️
@zeusbalmaceda4334
@zeusbalmaceda4334 Месяц назад
@@Cleanyourearsbro Yes I'm a purist when it comes to superhero subjects. That doesn't mean I didn't listen to the entire conversation about MDT. What are you getting bent out of shape for?
@Cleanyourearsbro
@Cleanyourearsbro Месяц назад
@@zeusbalmaceda4334 Woa easy bro relax. I get it, you like superheroes...
@vicentemaquinad8283
@vicentemaquinad8283 Месяц назад
Lapu Lapu Andres Bonifacio Bolo Men Battalion of WW2 Heydarian
@markosalojado1429
@markosalojado1429 Месяц назад
Jun 17 ang pitsa nakaka baba nang moral
@motesdepictions
@motesdepictions Месяц назад
Imee Marcos still believe a war scenario will happen. Poor head Senator this woman is.
@botvenikmikail-qv6od
@botvenikmikail-qv6od Месяц назад
No...better let the partner do the honors..better for the Philippines to exercise its natural right to defend itself and gain self respect and the respect of the world in enforcing the ruling by Unclos dismissing the baseless chinese claiming the west philippine sea...mabuhai..😂😂
@Leon-mk1wn
@Leon-mk1wn Месяц назад
im not a Duterterist but tbh, he's kinda right naman na nagpapagamit tayo sa mga Kano
@enriquemarcella3436
@enriquemarcella3436 Месяц назад
Paano tayo nagagamit? Yung Amerika ba nam-b-bully sa atin sa West Philippine Sea? Linya iyan ni Duterte at China e.
@NCM-xy8ow
@NCM-xy8ow Месяц назад
Pinoys think the Americans would come die for them. Wait long long. They dont even do so for white-christian Ukraine. 😂
@normanocampo4466
@normanocampo4466 Месяц назад
You have an AMNESIA, who CAME during WW2, Mc Arthur DID, do NOT twist the TRUTH, you are just NOTHING but in the league of KUPAL Duterte, nothing but SCARE tactics, the Indians, Indonesians and Vietnamese, STAND against the Chinese, WHERE is the KUPAL war DUTERTE always parroting?
@LeeSkJohn-sv8wi
@LeeSkJohn-sv8wi 23 дня назад
Agreed. They think they owned their white master 😂😂😂
@hilltopintegratedfarm1693
@hilltopintegratedfarm1693 Месяц назад
Propagandista lang naman etong si boy lgbt😂😂😂 ng America
@winzmiaga221
@winzmiaga221 Месяц назад
🤣🤣🤣 all suggestions or countermeasures always fall to gentleman's agreement. 😂😂😂😂 Sino ba Kac Ang nag politicized Ng tactics as a gentleman's agreement. 😂 Kahit c Richard gusto nyang e drag Ang previous admin to the gentleman's agreement. But his suggestion can be considered as a gentleman's agreement.
@glenngarcia6322
@glenngarcia6322 Месяц назад
Hindi nga nila matukoy o matumbok ang talagang gusto nila 😂. Ang solution lang naman talaga dyan negosasyon na tinatwag nilang "gentleman's agreement "😂
@marygrace7781
@marygrace7781 Месяц назад
Agreement talaga pero hindi Yung oo ka sa lahat ng gusto lang nila
@winzmiaga221
@winzmiaga221 Месяц назад
@@marygrace7781 I think the keyword there para Hindi Tayo malito o gamitin ito for partisan agenda. The keyword is ayaw Ng TSINA na mapahiya cla sa kanilang constituents o sa global community. in short gustong ipalabas Ng china na kusa nilang ibinibigay sa pilipinas Hindi yong ipalalabas na ninakaw ito. Kac alam Yan Ng TSINA na Hindi Yan sa kanila parang casualty lang yang ayungin sa nangyari sa Scarborough wayback 2012.
@raulsaria2247
@raulsaria2247 Месяц назад
Hopeless ang agreement sa china. Kung sabihin nila u shud follow 10 dash line. Paano na? At Philippines shud kontow to china? Knowing their character, unless a big threat to them then they will not give up. You see our DFA keep talking to them, but no progress.
@winzmiaga221
@winzmiaga221 Месяц назад
@@raulsaria2247 your an idiot if that's your argument. Hindi ba pwede Sabihin look we have possession here and you have there can we draw a line or create a mechanism that can avoid miscalculations or understanding. Yan Ang ginawa Ng previous admin. Drawing a line. And as a result we upgraded the pag-asa island which 4 administrations failed to do so and allowed the resupply mission on ayungin shoal twice a month with construction materials onboard the previous administration do it covertly without hiccup. NOW the problem with the current administration they wanted an aimless resupply mission on siera Madre which is a catastrophic failure that led our soldiers injured. Now after the incident the current government wanted a new negotiation. do you think china will give a better deal? if the previous government can resupply twice a month I bet china wouldnt do such a deal on second round. I think what we can get to new negotiation will only be allowedp once a month or even worse they will conduct a security check on materials we bring to siera Madre.. I believe that WPS is being politicized by the current admin to divert his administration failure on domestic issues.
@gloriabort2879
@gloriabort2879 Месяц назад
Can we not put a lighthouse instead to this Sierra Madre Ship? Can a lighthouse be in the middle of the ocean? Offshore Lighthouses are lighthouses that are not close to land. There can be a number of reasons for these lighthouses to be built. There can be a shoal, reef or submerged island several miles from land. en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Li... Lighthouse - Wikipedia
@EternalGoyim
@EternalGoyim Месяц назад
Maybe if they decided to use civilian infrastructure but hinde tau Maka resupply ng maayos
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