When Paintless Dent Removal Goes Wrong! PDR Fail

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Every now and again we come across a dent that somebody has tried to fix themselves. Now, this was the case with my customer and his Vauxhall Astra as you can see he's had a go unfortunately made quite a mess of his panel.
Ultimately it's a real mess and I've got to try and figure out how to fix this dent and get the best results I can.
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@jimruthem6587 8 месяцев назад

One of the best demonstrations I've seen. I'm 81 and beginning PDR as a hobby. It takes hours to get right but is very rewarding when the dent is truly gone. Thanks for putting this content on U tube. I'm not going into business just proving that you can teach an old dog new tricks.

@LearnPDROnline 8 месяцев назад

Thanks for your comment Jim, I love that you are getting into PDR now at 81, I often have students ask me if they are too old to learn, the day you stop trying to learn new things is when you are too old, I'm glad my videos help!

@gtbigdog3507 5 месяцев назад

I’m 62 and trying to learn it I figure it may be a good thing to know after I retire during a few extra bucks

@scissrface2182 5 месяцев назад

Im 23 getting into autobody and trying to get ahead of the game

@LearnPDROnline 5 месяцев назад

@@gtbigdog3507 You are not alone I have quite a few former students that wanted to learn a new hobby that could also bring in an income in retirement, its a great skill to learn and is a good challenge!

@LearnPDROnline 5 месяцев назад

Great getting into it young, lots to learn and plenty of directions to go in for the future!

@colinpierce2585 Месяц назад

Great video, very well explained… iv watched a few videos on PDR and this I far the best. Keep up the good work

@LearnPDROnline Месяц назад

Thanks Colin, I'm glad you enjoyed it!

@roblewis6498 Год назад

OMG... Just unbeliavble what can be done withthe expertise and tools

@LearnPDROnline Год назад

Thanks Rob, Yes this one was a bit of a mess, but after a few hours repair work I was able to get it to a satisfactory standard for my customer!

@dentremover01 Год назад

Merry Christmas Tom and family….. Well done on a super clear explanation, using the line board too…..Looking forward to working with you on some projects in 2023

@LearnPDROnline Год назад

Thanks Martin and Merry Christmas to you too! Yes 2023 will see some new collaborations and ventures for us both, roll on MTE :)

@hoojchoons2258 Месяц назад

Great job! How long does it take to train for something like this? I'm 50 and now out of work, really fancy this! I'm a perfectionist so I may not make much money though!! Cheers

@LearnPDROnline 26 дней назад

Thank you. Each student has a different learning curve depending on how much time they have to put into their practice, hand eye co-ordination and current experience, generally you can learn to do simple small dents within 3 -6 months but the more advanced damage can take years to truly master. I have plenty of students learning this skill later in life and going into retirement as a part time business! I am happy to help and advise you further if you do decide to get started with PDR

@richcooper6989 Год назад

Not knocking as it does look a really nice job, at the finish shots u see almost orange peel is that just a massive amount of micro highs and lows that will never come out? And is this a standard for all repairs?

@LearnPDROnline Год назад

Hi thanks for your comment and question, the standard is to get each dent 100% clean where possible but in this scenario the panel had already been stretched when the customer attempted to have ago himself so my job here was to try and save the panel. I did advise it was unlikely to be 100% and he was happy with PDR over the alternative option of a bodyshop. To answer your other question yes there are lots of tiny micro highs and lows which is the result of shrinking the metal manually to avoid the panel popping in and out. The finish shot here is just before I gave the panel a light flat and polish which further reduces the appearance but another alternative would be to use something like an induction tool to shrink the metal. I do not use one of these myself though. Hope that helps answer your questions

@lpatierno84 Месяц назад

Wish I could find someone this good to fix the hood of my majesta. Just had a branch fall and mush it real good😢

@LearnPDROnline Месяц назад

Ah that's a shame, sorry to hear that. Its worth looking around there are a lot of good PDR techs around!

@ajmac996 Год назад

Well Tom another tidy job from you,can you always fix the oil canning

@LearnPDROnline Год назад

Thanks Anthony, not always Oil canning is one of the things I struggle with the most asit really depends on the depth of the damage. If its pretty stretched often there is a very slight ripple or bulge in the panel when looking along the side views. I dont have a power pdr or hot box but they're other options to help shrink the metal.

@iwontbebeat7111 Год назад

Wow that's a mess !! ... I wouldn't challenge it even . LoL 😂 Especially, Oil Can part . Without hot box I do t know how one can fix it.

@LearnPDROnline Год назад

Yeah it was definitely a mess but it came out well, a hot box would have helped to shrink the metal in the later stages, without one I had to make small accurate pushes in the right locations surrounding the dent to help create stability in the panel!

@billramsey800 Год назад

Nice save Tom have a great new year 😎👍

@LearnPDROnline Год назад

Thanks Bill, I have friends out in Australia at the moment and I'm getting pretty jealous of their photos of blue skies and sunshine. Currently sitting in my garage/studio and I'm freezing ha ha. Hope the build is coming on well and wishing you and your family a great 2023

@joaquinlanzetti2499 Год назад

Perfect bro ! great job, tanks for your info and capacitation,,gracias, saludos desde Argentina

@LearnPDROnline Год назад

Thank you, much appreciated 👍

@Hammondt88 Год назад

Good work Tom :) Happy new year buddy

@LearnPDROnline Год назад

Thanks Tom and Happy New Year to you too! You'll be pleased to know I've actually been hitting the gym at last so will keep it up for 2023. All the best mate!

@hermankroon7803 11 месяцев назад

Hello tom, i assume you prefer the board from the light?

@LearnPDROnline 11 месяцев назад

I mostly work outside so for me a reflector board is often clearer/brighter than a light, I do switch to using my led board inside, but yes my preference is the reflector board!

@sprother_pdr Год назад

Nice job

@LearnPDROnline Год назад

Thank you! :)

@sheerwillsurvival2064 Год назад

I did the same thing to my daughters car it’s a new wrinkle finish. Could only use glue pulling and tapping. But man tapping is tough ☹️

@LearnPDROnline Год назад

Yes tapping is a huge part if the process, I often spend longer on the tapping side than I do pushing or pulling!

@edwinmedina4338 4 месяца назад

See I stopped before it got that bad 😅. I got about 50 60% at best but was fighting with highs and lows on a 2014 Toyota Rav4 rear quarter area.

@LearnPDROnline 3 месяца назад

😅 Yeah this one was a bit messy but all ok in the end. Usually these types of reworks require a lot more tapping down than anything else 👍

@bird6691 4 дня назад

i just make sure I park my zebra away from the dented side

@prebaned 7 месяцев назад

Pretty good.

@LearnPDROnline 7 месяцев назад

Thank you 🙏

@refugioramirez4599 12 дней назад

A sharp tipped tool would have shrunk the metal better. No blending.

@FutureProofNothing 2 месяца назад

It's not finished though, You can see line breaking at the end of the video

@LearnPDROnline 2 месяца назад

I took the repair as far as I was willing to, to meet my customers budget and expectations, if they had not already stretched the metal with a failed PDR attempt before I attended, it would have been possible to remove completely but once stretched the panel can only be bought back so much with manual manipulation, next step would be to shrink the panel with induction system or potentially repair and repaint in a bodyshop. 👍

@Zaur_bezkraska-pdr Год назад

no colleague no. edging pull edging half-circular edging and sheet the very thing is that the stretched edging and plane are invisible to the eye.) and then the plane

@LearnPDROnline Год назад

I don't understand, planes? edging? half-circular?

@condhy 6 месяцев назад

His actually did u a favor

@LearnPDROnline 5 месяцев назад

In what way? Do you mean because he had already started the repair? I'm intrigued...

@Orbitaakter Месяц назад

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@a96ozsteak Год назад

just me or are 90% of European cars hatchbacks?

@LearnPDROnline Год назад

We do have a lot but still plenty of estates, saloons, convertibles and vans too! 😀

@Aikaramba12 Год назад

Why didn’t you show the shrinking part… dislike

@LearnPDROnline Год назад

This video is not about shrinking metal which is why I titled it 'When PDR goes Wrong'. The repair took around 4 hours to rectify so its not easy to show every single aspect of every repair in a free RU-vid video. We have our dedicated training site for this purpose, to allow us to go into the real detail of what's involved in every single repair and the tools and techniques involved.

@chuckjankoviak9829 3 дня назад

How does one acquire the hockey stick tool? What tool company?

@Swenser Месяц назад

One thing that makes me think I'm dreaming is that every ding and dent I've ever had has left paint work scratched up. How the damn you get smacked hard and paint survives. What planet does that happen?

@LearnPDROnline Месяц назад

Yes it is surprising some of the damage we see where the paint is undamaged! Occasionally there are small surface scuffs that can just be polished off but I do see a lot of enquiries where the paint is damaged too, I refer them to a local bodyshop 👍

@rodthomas3050 2 месяца назад

You left out what would have been the most interesting part . I wanted to see how you shrink stretched metal?😢

@LearnPDROnline Месяц назад

There are a couple of methods for shrinking metal which we go through in our training, this video was mainly to highlight what can happen when someone with no experience or training tries to repair dent damage and some of the repairs we come across out on the road where people have had a go themselves. You can learn everything you need about PDR at www.learnpdronline.com 👍

@weejohnbb 14 дней назад

How long did this repair take and how long would you estimate the repair to have taken if you were the first to touch it?

@wyattoneable Год назад

I sure enjoy the videos. I hope your Christmas holiday is going well.

@LearnPDROnline Год назад

Thanks Wyatt, I'm glad you're enjoying them and hope you've had a great Christmas, all the best for 2023!

@camilo9611 Год назад

I have something same did job on A pillar,may could you tell me if it is repairable with pdr when there is no acces from inside?

@LearnPDROnline Год назад

Hi Camilo, when there is no access to the area behind such as an A pillar then you may be limited to 'Glue Pull' only. It depends on the severity of the damage and your skill level with the tools available but you would likely have to work from the outside only.

@rubenbalderrama3922 Год назад

What do I do if I pulled the metal too far out creating a huge mound?

@LearnPDROnline Год назад

Hey Ruben, the best fix is to gently work the mound back down again with accurate tap down work. If the high spot is sharp youll need a sharp tap down if its soft then use a soft tap down. Depends how big it is but I usually start in the middle, the highest spot.

@rubenbalderrama3922 Год назад

@@LearnPDROnline do you use metal tap downs or plastic for this mound?

@Msleelee9487 9 месяцев назад

i might look into training i have popped a few dents out but didn't have these tools i love cars and hate dents

@LearnPDROnline 9 месяцев назад

Yes, the right tools and some training can make all the difference, so when you're ready to learn, send me a message and Il share some info with you on tools and training!

@AtticAZ Год назад

Damn!! Killer job!! How do you go about getting them micro lows out, with no access from behind? Open them up, by blending and glue pull with a small tab. I have the small root beer tabs.

@LearnPDROnline Год назад

Thanks! Yes if I can not access the area behind, open them up and try to pull up the centre and repeat this process until its out. With this repair I did have access so I di both.

@AtticAZ Год назад

@@LearnPDROnline nice. Thanks. I got the top half mint. The lower is close. The body line on rear panel above the wheel in a 2017 Mustang is tough to get back. But I’m close there too. Couldn’t do it without your Vids. 🙏🏼

@craigsmith4419 11 месяцев назад

Easy save for a good tech.

@LearnPDROnline 10 месяцев назад

Thanks 👍

@tomc.4860 14 дней назад

Unfortunately, what we don't see is how badly it was damaged before it was partially repaired. I had a very large dent in the side of my car and I repaired it. The large dent could be seen for a quarter mile away but after I repaired it you had to look very closely to see the ripples. I think the repair was well worth it.

@planetina1145 Месяц назад

Like a dealer magic guy who says, nah we aint trading in your shit, ya should clunk it, buy a brand new 2025 Camry.

@wyattoneable Год назад

Now that I've had a few days to work on my own vehicle I'm back to watch this again because this is exactly what my panel looks like now (ha ha) Us DIY guys can keep you busy!

@LearnPDROnline Год назад

Yep it makes a big difference knowing how to start a dent because how you start will often dictate how you'll finish 👍

@jimhimesjr Год назад

Same here. My wife thought it looked good (it’s her vehicle), she said oh wow you got the dent out and I thought it looks awful lol. Just gonna take my time and work at it. Not a good enough car to spend big money making it look perfect but nice enough where I’d like to make the dent look a little better.

@jonathannagela2130 4 месяца назад

the things you pdr guys do look like magic

@LearnPDROnline 4 месяца назад

Ha ha thank you!

@VictorVillacis-fn4do 9 месяцев назад

Muchas gracias, excelente lección

@LearnPDROnline 9 месяцев назад

¡Gracias por tu comentario! ¡Muy apreciado!

@michaelcabz 4 месяца назад

You are an artist.

@LearnPDROnline 4 месяца назад

Thank you! 🙏

@mouslarb6976 Год назад

Good job bro

@LearnPDROnline Год назад

Thanks Mous 👍🏻

@dentdingking4878 Год назад

Love it Tom!

@LearnPDROnline Год назад

Thanks Lee, hope you're well buddy!

@AirborneMediaScotland Год назад

This does my head in customers trying to fix damage then come in expecting us to fix their bodge up ,I have a transit 1/4 tomorrow that a customer thought he’d try fix himself but didn’t know the bottom hinge on the quarter is still forward holding in the quarter ,so now it’s all stretched and he’s been hitting it with a pointed hammer

@LearnPDROnline Год назад

Ouch! hitting it with a pointed hammer.... You'll have your work cut out for sure. Yes its tricky finding the balance between showing customers the benefits of PDR without making it look easier than it is Thanks John

@JasonValencia 5 месяцев назад

Then why all the PDR DIY videos? I’m here because I kinda feel like I did botch it (enough at least to start getting quotes) but should I expect to get ridiculed by the PDR experts and get sent to a body shop because I ruined my one-time only chance? I don’t get it.

@JasonValencia 5 месяцев назад

@@LearnPDROnline Tom you’re great! My comment was for the other guy ☝️

@bulldogkarma Год назад

What's the best indicator to identify a high spot. Some dents are hard to identify.

@LearnPDROnline Год назад

I use lines to read damage so for me I check the reflection of my lines and when it appears the lines are pinched together or any areas where the lines appear closer to each other than they should be then this indicates the panel is high in that area, Thanks

@bulldogkarma Год назад

@@LearnPDROnline thanks, sometimes I see that and I can't tell if that's high or low. Can you also elaborate why You focus on correcting the high points before the lowest points of the dent?

@LearnPDROnline Год назад

@@bulldogkarma No problem, sometimes when a repair has multiple highs and lows its tricky to see with the line board, the best method is to move the line board around and try it further back until you clearly see the damage. I usually tap down all the highs I can see from one angle to allow me to have a clearer view of the damage, you can either remove all the lows to see the highs or remove all the highs to see the lows, I like to tap down the highs myself as that often reduces some of the 'fake lows' ie areas either side of a high spot that can often look like minor lows