Even her maid doesn't want to save her she shouldn't have let that gross Eunuch abuse her maid in the beginning. An eye for an eye indeed. I don't pity her evil character at all.
She did not know the eunuch was abusive and was doing that to her. She only forced the marriage so she could use the eunuch as a spy, she just never foresaw the consequences. If she knew he was abusive, the marriage would not have happened because it would have shamed her for arranging the marriage, which it did in the end. The only people she directly harmed were Ruyi and Gao Guifei by giving them the laced bracelets to prevent them from getting pregnant. Aside from that, she never really plotted anything to hurt anyone, unless it was in retaliation. She only directly tried to harm Ruyi after her son died, when she was coerced into believing she cursed him to death, and after believing Ruyi had been plotting against her/taking all the favor and wanting her position for years, by trying to kill her while she was in the cold palace, still thinking she was out to get her. While yes she did some evil deeds, they were not nearly as bad as others in the series.
@Myrtle Snow Im pretty sure she had people killed (used Aruo as scapegoat while she and Jia killed those babies) and tried to have Ruyi killed several times (through Aruo and directly). Everything Hui did was under her order and Hui did nearly kill Hailan too although Hui wasn't the type to bother on those much below her in status. As for the maid, the Empress knew but didnt care as long as nobody else knew. Her maid begged her not to get her married off to that eunuch as he had awful reputation and she didn't care. Later the maid pleaded with her more but to no avail. That's why her own personal maid wont help her here.
@@margaritanoir Clearly you did not watch the series fully. The Empress did not kill the unborn babies, her maid Su Lian was working with Noble Consort and Jia Guiren to kill the children with the Empresses power (even though she did not know) because Su Lian was told by the mother of the Empress, that her daughter is not strong willed, so Su Lian acted own her own accord to benefit the Empress without her knowing, by killing the unborn children because she did not want the Empresse's sick son to have competition for the throne. The Empress even states on her deathbed swearing not to reincarnate that she did not do it. That is why Su Lian was murdered after she passed as well, because the real person who killed the children and was the mastermind was Jia Guiren, because she wanted to have the first son of the Emperor after he ascended to power. The Only time the Empress acted against Ruyi (besides giving her the bracelet) was after her son had died, and she was manipulated into believing that Ruyi had cursed her son to death with witchcraft, which is why she tried to kill her, she always believed Ruyi was trying to take her position and her power, which is why she gave her the bracelet in the first place, so that she would be infertile and never be able to gain favor and power through children, because she knew Ruyi was a threat because she held the Emperors heart.
@@myrtlesnow2397 She tried to have Ruyi killed and betrayed her ally Hui by giving her that infertility bracelet and although Hui desperately wanted children, she kept insisting they wear the bracelets. Mei was killed by the Emperor for causing a concubine's infertility but the Empress made the two highest ranking Consorts infertile which is an even greater crime. Ill repeat and say that she also betrayed her loyal maid too. It seems to me that you're just making excuses for her by omitting many of her crimes and saying I didn't watch the series. Whatever floats your boat. Clearly you see something in her character that you have to defend.
@@margaritanoir When did I ever omit any of her flaws or evil deeds? I barely elaborated on her or her importance in the entire series, especially as it relates to the the real Empress Xiaoxian. You replied to my comment with inaccuracies, and if you would have watched the series with a closer eye, you would have been able to see that Su Lian, Noble Consort and Noble Lady Jia were manipulating her power without her authority to kill the unborn children for their own benefits. It is more than apparent, especially after the scene where Ruyi is about to be released from the cold palace, and Noble Consort visits the Empress concerned and brings up the the evil deeds (thinking the Empress knew about it) and the Empress had no clue what she was talking about, and Su Lian instantly interjected herself into the conversation to stop it. Do I think she was as squeaky clean as she wanted to appear, no. Do I think the proper storyline however and realizing who took part in what is important, absolutely. I have watched this series 10+ times and am very passionate about it. This character was probably one of the most important in the entire series, and that is why even after she dies, she is constantly brought up and compared to Ruyi
Respect wasn't always mutual back then, but everything someone does comes out from the dark to get them. Sad really she was exposed near death but she deserved it.
How does the queen not know of Karma? Since they prayed so damn much. Buddhism/Hinduism has Karma as their basic knowledge and prayer. Honestly I wouldn’t have saved her either. She’s gonna stab be in the back if I did
True. But when the Empress's maid that was married to the abusive eunuch (Lianxin I think is her name) tried to commit suicide by jumping in the water, and she told Ruyi it had been accidental after she saved her, Ruyi said she wasn't being truthful because "anyone who fell in the water would surely scream for help" so it seems to be a widespread belief here. And maybe Yu Fei doesn't care all that much if she drowns after everything she did to Ruyi...
I have finally put 2 pieces together with why the Emperess's servant, Lianxin, let her drown. No. 1 The Emperess gave her to that psycho eunuch who tortured her in order to spy on the court. No 2. Lianxin was the servant of Consort Gao. Gao was given a bracelet to make her infertile by the Emperess and this servant swore to Gao that she would seek revenge.
I don't quite get why Jia is taking these steps to kill Empress Xiaoxian. She says after Ruyi becomes Huang Guifei that she didn't aim to become Empress before; but then why kill Xiaoxian? It made sense that she would manipulate Mei Pin to kill Yongcong, he was a potential rival for Yongcheng. Why is she killing Empress Xiaoxian if she doesn't currently hope to be Empress? Is she just trying to ensure Xiaoxian can't have more kids, or is she satisfying some other grievance?
She actually does want to become Empress. When Langhua fell sick, she saw her chance. (Spoilers) That's why Zhenshu, Jia's maid, picked up Chun Fei's hydrangea hair pin and left it at the scene after murdering Sulian, the Empress' personal maid. As a senior consort with two sons and a daughter, Chun Fei was a very strong candidate for step-empress. Then, when this didn't work, at Langhua's funeral, she set up Chun Fei and 3rd prince, so that they would appear greedy for the Empress and Crown Prince seats respectively. Neither of them recovered their status. She also utilized the same funeral to put 1st Prince in a similar position by using the rumor that Langhua had killed his birth mother and sister. So she cleared the way for both her as Empress, and Yongcheng as Crown Prince. Then, when it started to be rumored that Ruyi would be set as Empress instead, she fabricated the evidence of an affair between Ruyi and the visiting Grandmaster. And when this failed, there's a scene where she tells Yongcheng: "So it is her turn (Ruyi's) after all. Listen to me, son; I won't be Empress, but you must be Crown Prince no matter what". I'm not sure when she said she didn't mean to be Empress but she was likely just lying to whoever she was talking to. Or it was before she thought she actually had a chance to get rid of Langhua, maybe.
@@RavenSutcliffe the scene I'm remembering is after Xiaoxian's funeral when she's stirring up the affair rumor between Ruyi and the Grandmaster. She's talking casually with Zhenshu and mentions she had never aimed to be Empress before. I wonder if there's a scene missing in these clips that's meant to convey Jia's change of mind to try to become Empress.
@@PennyForTheGuy1605 Maybe. Or perhaps it was a subtitle error and she's talking about the wife selection or how she didn't plot against Langhua until she was sure she would fall. The plan is already in motion here, after all (in this clip) and very much so by the time of the fake affair. I think she meant she didn't have the aim when she thought it was impossible, but she does now.
I think Chun Guifei and Yu Fei were both not sure of what was really happening, and Mei Pin tried to brush it off and keep them from intervening, knowing that her plot worked and the Empress had fallen, she surely knew she had heard them as she spoke loudly on purpose without a filter to upset her. Her maid was probably in disbelief seeing her in the water, and after the abuse she caused her to suffer, probably did not want to intervene/was too afraid to do so.
@@goodnessmirikwe6595 That exactly what I said but in a different context. She may have had her life ruined but she was still loyal to the Empress, which is why she took her own life afterwards (in those time taking your own life as a slave to follow their master who had died was a sign of loyalty and devotion to follow them into the afterlife). She also had no future in those times because she would be seen as damaged goods and no one would probably marry her (why she was still working for them Empress past the age when she could be married off).
@@myrtlesnow2397 I agree. Can't see Chun Guifei letting anyone drown like that, she never tried to harm anyone and tried to always get along with everybody. I really respect that Chun Guifei had absolutely no interest in causing drama and at most was concerned about her children (and not in a "they need to be crown Prince" way, she just wanted them to have good lives and for their father to love them). Yu Fei may have been a lot colder and she really did not like the Empress, but I can't see her doing this either.
She died naturally. Her overthinking killed her. She heard consort mei saying that what goes around comes around and knew that her time was up. Everything she did came back to her.
