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When to 3-Point and When to Wheels-Land Your Taildragger 

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The definitive answer to the question; when should you wheels land your trail dragger, and when should you three point land it? While they can be used interchangeably, there are certain situation which requires a tailwheel airplane to be wheeler landed or three-pointed.
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@LetsGoAviate
@LetsGoAviate 2 месяца назад
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@user-qw1gf2zd2u
@user-qw1gf2zd2u 2 месяца назад
Once a pilot learns to reflexively control tail height by moderating brake pressure, the risk of a nose-over is eliminated, and wheel landings become the safest and best method in any gusty or crosswind situation. In most taildraggers, differential brake steering is far more positive and reliable than either rudder or tailwheel steering, whether the tail is up or down. Whenever rudder and/or tailwheel steering does not immediately accomplish the desired result, the most effective way to exert and maintain precise directional control is to add in some differential brake steering. Learning tail-up braking and controlling tail height with brakes allows pilots to maintain precise control of their taildraggers in practically any wind conditions. Wheel landings offer better visibility of the runway and/or obstacles, better rudder authority prior to touchdown, and the ability to choose exactly when and where to touch down, rather than just waiting (very vulnerably) for the lift to run out, as is the case in every three point landing. After touching down, as rudder authority begins to diminish, differential braking becomes the primary steering method until the tail is let down, which can be as late as the pilot wishes. Adding power to increase elevator authority and tail-up braking to counteract the resulting increased thrust allows pilots to keep the tail up until stopping completely if they wish. The tail can then be let down softly by reducing power. Alternatively, the tail can be let down softly immediately before stopping by applying as much brake pressure as required to prevent it from falling rapidly. For more details and a series of exercises for developing these skills, see “The Art of Avoiding Ground Loops,” available on Amazon.
@mikepittman8295
@mikepittman8295 2 месяца назад
A wheel landing goes through the same point of transition is a three-point, so be careful
@Captndarty
@Captndarty 2 месяца назад
@@mikepittman8295at 1/3d the speed…
@chipcity3016
@chipcity3016 2 месяца назад
All wheelers end in three points anyway so why carry more energy near ground for longer? Wheelers physically make no sense.
@skyboy1956
@skyboy1956 16 дней назад
@@chipcity3016 Better tell that to DC-3 pilots. They never make a 3 point landing.
@healerf18
@healerf18 2 месяца назад
You're a brave man for wading into this topic! :D I'm an Aviation Medical Examiner in Alaska and I see a lot of pilots, many of whom own and fly taildraggers. I always ask "Wheelies or three-points?" It's a fun poll. Roughly 80% prefer wheel landings and virtually 100% of Part 135 operators prefer them. I've had a few tell me they never allow their pilots to three-point. I own and fly a Cessna 180 and learned to fly it from three very experienced bush pilots. Every one of them taught me to wheel land in all conditions except three-points for short field grass and gravel. I think the three-point comes much more naturally for pilots since almost all of us learn in tricycle gear airplanes ("hold it off, hold it off, more right rudder!"). It takes work to master the wheelie. But those that do generally believe it provides better control through all phases of a landing (and no, using a bit of differential brake to maintain center-line does not cause a nose-over.) Thanks for posting!
@dwaynemcallister7231
@dwaynemcallister7231 2 месяца назад
Thanks for your comment, I grew up watching my Dad fly Cessna 180's and Helio Courier's in the 1960's and '70's Canadian Arctic, I would observe his technique of course. He would vary the technique depending on the situation but on the average day it was a wheel landing. His take-off in the Helio was almost always tail high and lift off cleanly, in some very early years he had a Helio that came with cross wind gear, seems to me he would land three point or tail lowish with that airplane, if I recall correctly. That's a long time ago, I have a Homebuilt British kit plane called a Europa Monowheel, it has a tailwheel and does need to be three pointed always on landing.
@LetsGoAviate
@LetsGoAviate 2 месяца назад
I have been known to dive into dividing topics 😆 Probably because I see no point in picking one or the other since both has it's pro's and cons. That's interesting, thanks! When I did my tailwheel conversion training initially years back, the wheel landing came so naturally to me. I struggled with the 3 pointer and only did a 3 pointer every 10 or so landings. Then I started getting into short field/STOL type landings, and when I couldn't get my landing roll shortened, I knew I had to use the 3 pointer. Fast forward, now I very much prefer the 3 pointer (in the 172 taildragger as well as our previous plane which is a Kitfox clone). I pretty much only wheel land in gusty headwind. Yep I hear ya, you can use the differential braking to maintain centreline with the tail up. That's not what I'm on about though. If you get a massive crosswind gust with the tail up, one that weathervanes you a lot, I'd like to see you stomp on one brake without nosing over. And if you don't, it's off the runway with you, split second reactions. I know 2 pilots that left the runway doing wheel landings in a gusty crosswind. Both are somewhat high hour pilots and managed not to groundloop, but went off the runway nonetheless.
@rogermatheny5512
@rogermatheny5512 2 месяца назад
Tail has to come down sometime. Might as well start there
@wadesaxton6079
@wadesaxton6079 2 месяца назад
4K hrs of tail wheel time and I agree. May as well find out if you have enough rudder in the 3 point attitude from the start.
@markhilsen2528
@markhilsen2528 2 месяца назад
Douglas DC-3 in civilian life is wheel landing only, 3-point not permitted. The military C-47 or Dakota does not prohibit 3-point landings but warns of adverse handling characteristic associated with stall and engine drop off. Nice showing a T-6, though. The strange thing about the Texan/SNJ/Harvard is that when facing a nasty crosswind, a 3-point gets you safely on the ground l, tail down l, and airspeed decayed to taxi way better than wheel landing.Sure a wheel landing gets you on the mains and rolling … but sooner later, you have to get the tail down, tail wheel locked and holding the centerline, as you slow. That’s when you’re vulnerable and wishing you hadn’t got it your faith in the wheel landing. The 3-pointed is a misnomer l: you’re really wing-down-into-the-wind and make runway contact with the upwind wheel •and the tail wheel• for longitudinal control! When under control, lower the downwind wheel and roll out straight. Not necessarily the easiest crosswind landing you’ll ever make, to be sure.
@ZhihengCao
@ZhihengCao 2 месяца назад
FINALLY A DEFINITIVE ANSWER TO WHEN TO USE WHEEL LANDING!!! THANKS!
@ChrisPinCornwall
@ChrisPinCornwall 2 месяца назад
Brilliantly explained, thank you so much. I'm a tricycle pilot slowly trying to get to grips with taildraggers, this was most helpful.
@LetsGoAviate
@LetsGoAviate 2 месяца назад
Great to hear! Thanks
@hgiudful
@hgiudful 2 месяца назад
Well explained. I prefer wheel landing my Stearman for forward visibility reasons. For my Cub, I prefer three point. I found that if I try to land tailwheel first then I get the three point stance every time.
@willjohnson3907
@willjohnson3907 2 месяца назад
In the old airtractor radial days guys would put geared 1320s with huge dc3 props on them and if you wheel landed them you’d have a bad day.
@vacuumelite2065
@vacuumelite2065 2 месяца назад
I am never going to fly a plane. However, I am an engineer and I really enjoyed your concise overview. 😊
@LetsGoAviate
@LetsGoAviate 2 месяца назад
Thanks 🙂
@darrenbell3534
@darrenbell3534 Месяц назад
Learned to fly 2 different tail draggers, The flying school for the Tiger moth wanted a wheeler, the flying school for the more modern Skyfox type wanted a 3 pointer. The theory if I recall was that the tiger moth needed more airflow over the rudder to as not to try turn itself around and kill you, the Skyfox was more responsive with rudder at lower air speed and so they wanted a 3 pointer and have the tail wheel in control as soon as possible.
@gutsymovies
@gutsymovies 5 дней назад
The Pitts biplane community generally sticks to 3 point to avoid prop strike on landing. There are people who wheel land a Pitts, however. I was taught 3 point and that's what I always do.
@TheFleetflyer
@TheFleetflyer 2 месяца назад
Not production aircraft, but many of the Reno Unlimited race planes need to be both taken off and landed on three points due to prop clearance.
@Tom-tk3du
@Tom-tk3du 2 месяца назад
The RV-8 has a reputation for not liking to 3-point except perhaps with aft CG. I ran out of elevator the first time trying to 3-point mine while solo. Most of us wheel them on. Use what works best for you. Know your cross-wind limits and remain within them. The best way to stay out of trouble is to avoid it.
@Coops777
@Coops777 2 месяца назад
What a great discussion and one I havent ever seen before in a video. What you say makes perfect sense. Three point is my favourite for the cub as it lands a little shorter. But your point about secondary lift off or ballooning is such a valid one. Yes the taildragger should always be 'flown on' and not stalled on in a strong headwind
@jimmydulin928
@jimmydulin928 2 месяца назад
Yes, in strong headwind we will have to fly it on, thus wheel landing. No we don't have to increase airspeed to do this. Get slow enough on short final to sink. This will require dynamic throttle to nail glide angle and rate of descent to the exact needed spot. At this power/pitch airspeed, the Cub (most small airplanes) can be angled across wide runways from the downwind corner (exact needed spot) to the upwind big airplane touchdown zone marking which is a thousand feet. In a 20 knot headwind component of a strong crosswind, the Cub should be able to be stopped without braking in fifty feet. The Stromberg carburetor will gulp (sounds like the engine quit) with necessary rapid dynamic throttle movement. Windmilling prop will get you going again. Really. No tailwheel airplane will wipe out the gear, wing tip, and prop/engine in a ground loop going 20 mph ground speed. Not saying we need to ground loop, but when fast the airplane is totalled. No, we will not be stalled. Yes, we will need ground handling or the fuel truck to block crosswind to taxi.
@antiquehealbot6543
@antiquehealbot6543 2 месяца назад
I've never flown a tail dragger and don't have any plans to fly one but this was very interesting video. I'll keep this in mind in case I fly one.
@excellenceinanimation960
@excellenceinanimation960 2 месяца назад
Good video Thank you! Hope to own a tail dragged some day!
@ulrichb3937
@ulrichb3937 2 месяца назад
Excellent explanation ... and btw if in doubt the wheel-landing (two point) is the safer one, because some aircraft have the tendency to start jumping out of the three poit attitude. Thanks for the video.
@RV7FlyPer
@RV7FlyPer 2 месяца назад
Wheel landing on rough or bumpy/hard grass runways usually leads to the aircraft goes flying again - I prefer 3-point in those conditions. If you could address the runway condition too instead of only focusing on the wind that would be great 😃 thanks for a great video
@marcoantonioandresherrero7439
@marcoantonioandresherrero7439 2 месяца назад
I have a Courier and my FI told me to never try a 3 point landing with a crosswind, because if youre slow, close to the stall, you have no control over the longitudinal axis, so you cant roll the plane if a gust suddenly wants to push one of your wings up, also the slower you are the lower control you have on your rudder, so moments before touching down and being able to correct using the brakes, the nose of the airplane can aim into the wind because it is pushing way to hard along the tail... Speed means security and assure you have enough roll and yaw control. So i cant agree on using 3 point landings if you have a severe crosswind, better have speed roll into the wind opposite pedal, touch down with one main wheel and keep it until the other wheel touches the ground, keep ailerons deflected and use brakes to maintain the nose straight.
@jimmydulin928
@jimmydulin928 2 месяца назад
Good coverage of all the variables. Wolfgang, in Stick and Rudder, talks about finishing the touchdown in a three point attitude all slowed up and ready to squat. But he doesn't go into the variables as you do. Because tw airplanes are becoming more expensive and are totalled when ground looped with considerable airspeed, I think we should go back to his advice regardless of technique used to finish. I have alway taught the power/pitch deceleration on short final coming into ground effect technique. If we are in a three point attitude with power (well below Vso in low ground effect) just before touchdown, we are as slow as possible. Now simply levelling the fuselage gives us the wheel landing options you mentioned without enough extra airspeed to total the airplane in a ground loop. Yes, serious gust spread requires an active throttle. We bring the throttle into active and dynamic play as glide angle and rate of descent control when we pitch up to decelerate (with power) enough on short final to get a sink requiring us to bring the throttle into play. Balloon, close throttle and then adjust throttle. Sink, full throttle and then adjust throttle. LOC fatalities, more prevalent than they were mid last century, result from too much airspeed. Driving it on with the wheel landing technique is good wind management, but the extra airspeed is not needed nor is it safe. Get into the three point attitude slow and near the beginning of the runway and then three point or wheel land to your heart's content.
@LetsGoAviate
@LetsGoAviate 2 месяца назад
Thanks. You are touching onto something valid. This is why I said the wheel landing doesn't necessarily need faster approach speed than the 3 point, but I don't go into it any further. I'm in agreement about the dangers of approaching too fast. Of course I also didn't talk about the variations of the wheel landing, like tail low, tail high etc. which gives even more control.
@timking2822
@timking2822 2 месяца назад
Great video. It's interesting to note that wheel landings transition into a three point position, and at this point you're exposed to the same risks.
@LetsGoAviate
@LetsGoAviate 2 месяца назад
Yep as I said at 5:04 Same risks, but risk is a lot lower when the tail comes down as speed is barely enough to hold the tail up, much less enough to go flying again if there is a gust.
@captratty2167
@captratty2167 2 месяца назад
I liked the video because it was clear and unbiased. The great pity is few pilots training today ever get near a tail wheel aircraft, so don't develop some basic skills that are just as relevant today as they always were. When the crosswinds blow hard or the runway is slippery - no matter whether it's a light single or a heavy jet you fly - the pilot with tail dragger time will be ahead of the game Besides which, modern nosewheel aircraft are a bit lame, tail draggers are FUN.
@adrianusseto1737
@adrianusseto1737 2 месяца назад
Thank you !
@gonek8814
@gonek8814 2 месяца назад
I was doing my taildragger training on PZL-104 Wilga, and its AFM clearly says that only 3 point landings are recommended. Great video BTW.
@LetsGoAviate
@LetsGoAviate 2 месяца назад
Interesting! Thanks
@aviatortrucker6285
@aviatortrucker6285 2 месяца назад
Wheel landings have always been the scariest because sometimes it’s just a sensation that you’re leaned over too far and that you will have a prop strike. My instructor told me to look to the side to see the angle of attack against the horizon. That in itself is scary as soon as you take your eyes off the front of the airplane, you risk the possibility of a ground loop.
@craig7083
@craig7083 2 месяца назад
I always three point my Stinson 108 because even a wheel landing soon becomes three point and the sooner all wheels are on the ground I feel absolutely in control. One technique I use when I need tail rudder control at low speeds is to input the rudder in the direction I want the nose to turn then momentarily nudge the throttle. Works great even up to 30 knot gusts.
@kentmichaelsen8212
@kentmichaelsen8212 Месяц назад
I owned a 108-3 about 40 years ago (when it was only 40 years old or so.) Metal wings and a Franklin engine. What a sweet airplane Stinson made!
@sparkyr22
@sparkyr22 2 месяца назад
I always, save the tiny wheel!!! :)
@williamaldenblank6218
@williamaldenblank6218 2 месяца назад
The Mosquito was normally wheel landed. If you tried to three point it, the extended flaps would block the air flow to the rudder and a loss of directional control was likely.
@PDZ1122
@PDZ1122 2 месяца назад
During WW2 and before there were only a few aircraft that were regularly wheel landed. The C47 was one but it was a structural reason; when heavily loaded it could bend the fuselage if stalled to high above the runway. Same with the earlier Ford Trimotor. The Corsair was landed in a tail low attitude because of turbulence over the tail at high AoA... EVERY other aircraft manual or instructional, British, US or German , teaches three point landings. Show me one that doesn't, and it will be a rare exception. What's more, none of them show this currently fashionable technique of shoving the stick way forward, forcing the tail up as soon as possible and then violently rotating. I see no benefit in wheel landings whatsoever. The tailwheel steers. It doesn't steer when it's up in the air. In my Maule I never resorted to wheel landings, even in the gustiest crosswind. Racing down the runaway with a crosswind and your tail sticking up takes twice the runway length, higher touchdown speed, less braking , you're more susceptible to side gusts and as you slow down, guess what: you're now in the same position as you would have been had you landed three point in the first place. It's illogical. Whatever perceived benefits there are they are outweighed by the negatives. I think it became fashionable among nosewheel pilots who were (badly) trained to just fly the airplane onto the ground instead of properly flaring. My 2cents. Worth about $2,40.
@LetsGoAviate
@LetsGoAviate 2 месяца назад
"Fashionable"? 🤣 The wheels landing is a tool/skill, and a pilot should have many tools. That's all it is, nothing more, nothing less - at least to me. I certainly don't know anything about being fashionable. Thanks for the comment, I didn't know that about the C-47 / DC-3.
@Lt_Tragg
@Lt_Tragg 2 месяца назад
Wheel landings in my Funk with its oleo struts generally result in bouncing down the runway at stall or otherwise. 3pts are always smoother in it. The tailwheel is locked to the rudder directly. Brakes are mechanical. Differential steering in like steering a boat at best.
@willjohnson3907
@willjohnson3907 2 месяца назад
Been in the cropdusting industry for years and I’ve never seen a single 502/602/802 do a three point landing. I do three points in my 402 but they say it’s easier because I have much shorter gear legs
@LetsGoAviate
@LetsGoAviate 2 месяца назад
​@@willjohnson3907 ​Interesting. Now that you mention it, I've got video clips of the 802 doing a bunch of wheels landings, but no 3 pointers. But they are all so bouncy, you'd think the 3 pointer would be easier.
@janskibinski6847
@janskibinski6847 2 месяца назад
Just curious as to your opinion on wheel landings being "preferred" with Globe Swifts over three point landings.
@alexarnoldy
@alexarnoldy 2 месяца назад
I had a Bushby Mustang II, which uses a laminar airfoil. The stall characteristics for that plane are sudden with little pre-stall buffet and a sharp wing drop (to the right on mine). That combined with stiff main gear legs meant three point landings were extremely difficult to pull off well. I bounced my way down many runways until I figured out that a wheel landing could help avoid those problems. After that, bounced landings were fairly rare and I greased more landings than I could count. Also, the plane had a naturally aft CG so using the brakes at any point in the landing was never a problem. A Cessna 120, however, will definitely punish you for being too heavy on the brakes at speed (tail up or down).
@saltnsunshine9127
@saltnsunshine9127 Месяц назад
Quicky Q2 and Q200s cannot wheel land due to their extremely low prop clearance. KR2 struggles immensely with three point landings due to the poor pitch authority at low airspeeds, and will usually tail strike first
@rotorhead2877
@rotorhead2877 2 месяца назад
Actually one taildragger I have owned that requires wheel landings only is the Pitts Model 12 due to the length of the prop.
@mhoeltken
@mhoeltken 2 месяца назад
Why would a long prop prevent a threepointer?
@steeldesignerpro261
@steeldesignerpro261 2 месяца назад
Most Pitts 12 pilots will say they should never be wheeled on. The prop clearance is very small. I have known pilots who did it out of ignorance much to the panic of the aircraft owner. The margin is quite small.
@LetsGoAviate
@LetsGoAviate 2 месяца назад
Yeah I'd say so, but the Pitts can be wheels landed safely, albeit carefully. In one of my aerobatic lessons, the instructor wheels landed the Pitts S2A. The video of that flight/lesson is actually on this channel. [EDIT] I missed your reference to model 12, and as per Alex's reply below seems it's different to the S1 and S2 Pitts I was referring to.
@alexmonroe3111
@alexmonroe3111 2 месяца назад
@@LetsGoAviatea regular PITTS yes you can wheel land it. But the model-12 is a totally different PITTS. It’s huge and has the big Russian radial with a huge prop. Nothing like a standard model 2
@LetsGoAviate
@LetsGoAviate 2 месяца назад
@@alexmonroe3111 Ah yeah ok, noted.
@steeldesignerpro261
@steeldesignerpro261 2 месяца назад
A Pitts 12 is a different beast all together. My memory is the MT prop is Ø98" and may be bigger for the higher HP versions of the M-14. I had the pleasure of riding in the original prototype A/C and was forbidden from wheel landings. My favorite technique has been the slow wheel landing. Fly it down like a 3 point and then raise the tail to stick the mains. This does not use up extra runway and prevents ballooning. @@LetsGoAviate
@mmascitti
@mmascitti 2 месяца назад
I prefer three points landings but a good pilot has to master the two points as well.
@LetsGoAviate
@LetsGoAviate 2 месяца назад
I agree
@bolenander6291
@bolenander6291 10 часов назад
Rans S-9 and probably the S-10 can not be wheel-landed. And it is not because of prop-clearance but the wheels are too far in front of the CG so the tail drops down directly when the wheels hit the grond, increasing the alfa and you take off again, usually with a not desired result ...
@kyleeames8229
@kyleeames8229 2 месяца назад
2:43 My grandfather used to have one of those!
@redfalco21
@redfalco21 2 месяца назад
There is no universal recipe. It’s not “paint-by-numbers.” Wheel landings are possible, but discouraged in the Extra, for example. Most pilots breaking the main gear in Extras are dicking around with wheel landings. The Extra handles big crosswinds pretty well in the three-point attitude and there is a much lower chance of side-loading the gear.
@georgeblackwell1881
@georgeblackwell1881 2 месяца назад
Pitts model 12...3 point only
@mazlinger
@mazlinger 2 месяца назад
Sukhois cannot be two pointed for both landing and takeoff due to the very little prop clearance they have…
@flycatchful
@flycatchful 2 месяца назад
It all depends on wind velocity and direction.
@gliderfan6196
@gliderfan6196 2 месяца назад
DC-3 was mains first and threepoint was discouraged, no?
@captratty2167
@captratty2167 2 месяца назад
In nearly 50 years of on/off association with the DC 3 and 3000 hours actually flying it, I never saw any official documentation discouraging or prohibiting 3 point landings. I have seen the statement that a mishandled three point landing could result in wing drop at the stall (the DC3 did have a nasty power on stall) and the potential to damage the fuselage if it dropped in from a too high flare (duh!). In various operational manuals I have seen various recommendations regarding crosswind landing techniques - some good and some dubious. All recommend wheeling it on (understandable!) and various crosswind limitations from as low as 15 knots to as high as 21 knots, but these were operator imposed limitations. Somewhere I recall that the ‘demonstrated’ crosswind was 17 knots. All that means is that on the day that they certified it in a particular airworthiness category, the test pilot found 17 knots to do the handling test. However different countries make their own rules, so varying limitations and prohibitions for such an old aircraft type would be quite likely.
@gliderfan6196
@gliderfan6196 2 месяца назад
@@captratty2167 Thanks for the insight. So it seems it was the opposite, mains were encouraged. I'll have to investigate if Li-2 was handled in a similar way behind the Iron Curtain.
@00timf66
@00timf66 2 месяца назад
Europa mono wheel can't be wheeler landed
@cameronmolt5649
@cameronmolt5649 2 месяца назад
Im able to do both interchangeably. And..... fight!
@alexmonroe3111
@alexmonroe3111 2 месяца назад
PITTS model-12 only 3 point. You don’t even run it on the mains during take off. Pretty sure the prop clearance isn’t great
@LetsGoAviate
@LetsGoAviate 2 месяца назад
Yeah I saw your reply on another comment, thanks. Reminds me of the P-47 Thunderbolt which I seem to remember can't be wheels landed or even the tail lifted on takeoff due to prop clearance either, but obviously an extremely rare aircraft today.
@alexmonroe3111
@alexmonroe3111 2 месяца назад
@@LetsGoAviate yeah hmm, I didn’t know that. I luckily got to see the restored p-47 razor back “Bonnie” at both Oshkosh and the Reno air races. I don’t remember if they ran I on the mains or not though. It does have a massive prop on it.
@GroovesAndLands
@GroovesAndLands 2 месяца назад
The terminology of this is interesting. "3 point" is obvious and intuitive; you're touching at 3 points simultaneously. Why not call the other a "2 point" landing??
@LetsGoAviate
@LetsGoAviate 2 месяца назад
Not sure, I didn't make up the terminology 😆 But likely because the 3 point will only be a 3 point touchdown if there is little or no crosswind. Doing a "3 point" touchdown in a crosswind, with aileron into the wind like you should, touchdown will be on the windward main wheel and tailwheel, with the leeward main wheel in the air. In effect this will is a 2 point touchdown. So if we also call a wheel landing a 2 point it will get confusing 🙂
@madcotter0074
@madcotter0074 2 месяца назад
I wheel just to protect my tiny tailwheel as much as I can.
@williampaden7774
@williampaden7774 2 месяца назад
Don't forget the go around ....
@birddogaustria2103
@birddogaustria2103 2 месяца назад
The US ARMY AR FORT RUCKER ALABAMA ONLY TOUGHT FULL STALL 3 POINT LANDINGS
@rech-ka
@rech-ka 2 месяца назад
The rear parachute will save you from a somersault
@soaringflightgliderrides506
@soaringflightgliderrides506 2 месяца назад
G109b POH says 3 point only.
@LetsGoAviate
@LetsGoAviate 2 месяца назад
First type commented on here for which only one of the two landings are allowed by the POH. Thanks!
@chipcity3016
@chipcity3016 2 месяца назад
The object of landing is facilitated by the absence of energy used to produce lift. Their for landing with with more energy than less is counter productive. In my 40 years of flying tail draggers there is not one valid argument I've heard for not landing three point.
@alexmonroe3111
@alexmonroe3111 2 месяца назад
Dc3 can’t be 3-pointed either. It has a locking tailwheel so you can’t steer it. Also once the tail is lowered you lose all rudder authority. Many dc3s have been ran off the runway due to this. Lower the tail and you lose all ability to steer the plane
@captratty2167
@captratty2167 2 месяца назад
I was taught both wheel and three point landings in DC3s for Papua New Guinea highland operations. The three pointer was preferable on short, rough and often wet/soft strips. Fortunately winds are generally not too strong in those areas. At the other extreme, I also flew the DC 3 in Scotland and the Shetland Islands, where 25 knot gusty crosswinds were par for the course. In those conditions a wheeler with lots of into-wind aileron countered by opposite rudder during the rollout was essential. Fortunately most British DC3 s had been modified with heavy duty disc brakes, so as the tail came down directional control was good if your feet knew what to do. At the other end of the scale, I had a home built Sonex tail dragger. It was the world’s easiest aircraft to three point, but I felt that it did not have enough prop clearance to risk wheeling it on.
@AlaskaRog
@AlaskaRog 2 месяца назад
It’s “wheel landing” not “wheels landing.”
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