A funny thing I discovered Yesterday while playing an evil thalmor: when killing jorn Battleborn you receive a letter from the gray mane family and get rewarded for the murder 😂
@@IlluminatedUser he was just trying to save her. The alik'r was looking for a redguard. By painting her white, they wouldn't suspect her at all! It's foolproof!
@@miniman649 Why are you acting like this would change anything? The plot won't change if you mod her white. The plot will only change if you add a mod that changes the plot.
Thanks for taking the low road, and showing it to us, so that we don't have to... (Being overly dramatic and silly, but even though it's a game, I couldn't do some of those things.)
I always tell myself on the second playthrough, I'll do these "evil" choices, but then the decision comes and I still don't have the heart to do it.... lol. I feel like it would take me 3-4 times before I end up truly picking all bad decisions just to see.
@@WildWombats It happens just like that to me to, I think is the music, or maybe the hole ambiance, this game is so immersive in so many ways that when it comes to being evil or ruthless its hard if you are a nice person by heart on RL
I am with all of you. I personally can never play evil. Most players I know are the same way not only with Skyrim but with other games such as Baldur's Gate 3.
even with mods I get for evil choices like getting sacrosanct and becoming a vampire, I tend to hunt bandits and necromancers and at the most bad times drain a guard lol
Man leave it to Bethesda to cut these awesome quests like assassinating Elisif! They also had a quest where Jarl Balgruf of Whiterun could be killed during the Mephala Daedra quest. That also would have been pretty metal. Bethesda if you're reading this for Elder Scrolls 6: - Please add the option to make all NPCs non-essential. Killing them will lock us out of quests. - Please allow us to fail quests and get kicked out of guilds permanently. I find it hard to believe that the College of Winterhold would allow us back in after murdering someone. - Please bring back fame and infamy. If my character saves the world and does a bunch of heroic stuff, guards should be super nice to them and shopkeepers should give hero discounts. If you are infamous and doing a bunch of evil stuff like Daedra quests or assassinating people then guards should just attack you on site. Regular citizens should also recognize you for your deeds like the hero of Kavatch in Oblivion. - Please add an approval/disapproval system for companions. If they disapprove of your actions they could turn hostile against you.
An option in the menu to disable essential characters would be nice (though it would be a problem for brainless characters you have to escort and for followers who get themselves killed constantly) That said, unfortunately after playing Starfield it’s very apparent Bethesda won’t be making another game worth playing, whether that’s elder scrolls or fallout or otherwise. Hate to say it as they were one of my favourite devs, but the spark has clearly been gone for years now. It’s up to new devs like Larian and CD projekt to carry the torch I suppose. Cyberpunk and especially phantom liberty are in some ways Bethesda type games that are up there with anything Bethesda made at their prime. Better in terms of narrative choice and combat, that’s for sure.
@@Marchochias I would not be that pessimistic about Bethesda. Making Starfield was a huuuge mistake indeed, but that is because they tried something new and different. As a result, they stopped doing what they were good at. If they went back to making Elder Scrolls games which is something they are good at, then they would go back to making really good open-world games. Starfield was pretty bland. But I think if they made a game with a hand-crafted Hammerfell that they have been working on since 2018 then yeah it might actually be really good. Starfield was just a terrible idea and so was Fallout 76. Elder Scrolls Online has also been taking away main-title Elder Scrolls games from us. Bethesda if you're reading again: stop making these new games and just go back to making an Elder Scrolls game every 3-5 years. It's a no-brainer on how to save the company.
I dpnt remember that elisif assassination. If you kill astrid and go to solitude and talk to the captain you can exterminate the rest of the brotherhood.
In-game the quest progression is changed so that you reach an alternate conclusion to the quest. Boethiah's Calling, the quest, is actually one of the more buggy quests in the game because of vestigial game code left behind of the unimplemented part of the quest where you assassinate Jarl Elisif. If you attack Jarl Elisif in-game while you have the quest active, you can end up causing permanent hostility between Solitude guards and yourself, even when it makes absolutely no sense. Plus, sacrificing certain followers during the quest can break tons of other quests from other factions and NPCs. Very buggy indeed.
Huh I got the ebony mail and don’t remember getting that assassination quest at all? Elisif is alive in my game and none of that stuff happened. Do you have to do something specific to trigger that?
Yep, it's a removed quest but you can trigger it with console commands iirc. But it's not completely finished, it was scrapped before the game released.@@recordedbeast4466
@@recordedbeast4466not cut content, someone added it as a mod it has nothing to do with the legit game! this is why you fools needto stop playing with mods your playing not legit missions and trying to pass them off as real. fyi the wardrobe worn on the char in video is a modded getup and proves they play the unoficial patch aka a mod full of claimed to be re added missions in reality someones just pulling your chain....
@@antlerr Playing Skyrim without mods is something only the most insane people would do, it’s like eating a hamburger without the meat or buns, it’s just not the same.
Dude used one of those racist "remove the blacks" mods. Racists did the same thing for Baldurs Gate 3 because Wyll (who is an awesome character) was black, so they made a mod to make his skin white instead.
@@harrabi15 damn fr? That makes sense why I never see anything about it. It would be really cool to be in the game tho, it looks basically 100% finished
@@dSWISHm I was very confused when I saw it in the video so I had to google it because I only recently did the quest and I do not remember any Jarl-killing. Pretty neat tho!
I thought Sybille was essential, I remember trying to kill her when I realized she was a vampire and not being able to. What quest removes the essential flag?
She is essential normally. The quest shown in this video is cut content and isn’t in the final release, but it’s that specific quest that removes the essential flag on her
I think it’s after you complete the Solitude Questline to thwart Potema and she subsequently goes to sleep forever since you foiled her plan. After that, you can kill her.
I have a mod installed that makes Elisif travel the roads of Skyrim with General Tullius and Falk Firebeard. Always give her some kickarse enchanted armor, weapons and jack up her stats to make her a warrior queen. 😁
Every playthrough without fail I always end up like 40 hours in after beating the Companions questline only to find out Eorlund croaked out of nowhere by either this hag or Adrianne. There was a point where I just assumed he's scripted to die of old age after a certain amount of in-game time or something. Does he leave Whiterun or something? Because I swear I'm not around when he dies. He's way up at the skyforge whenever the vampires ambush me so I don't see how he'd make it all the way down to get shanked.
@@smillernexus Not that I'm aware of. In one of the playthroughs he died, I did have open cities, which probably let a dragon sneak in. I also have the mod that makes low level NPCs avoid fights rather than charge in with daggers/fists, so I was hoping they'd live longer.
Yes it happened to me too even back in days when playing on PS3. I think it is some kind of bug where npc spawn in the high in the air and fall down from the sky.
Man revisiting this game after i got morality back makes it seem so dark and disgusting... I remember entering it with morality, doing good, and slowly getting into the dark stuff, and years later i purify my morals and wow... I do believe videogames, like any media shapes you a bunch... Watch out, you become what you consume...
@@timkerer9607 Is murd3ring someone and paying 250 bucks and everyone being fine with that not dark? Or working for demons? What is unclear or untrue about my comment? Do you really believe this does not influence ideology? I'm not a boomer, i say this after having played many hours of this game...
Oh crap! I must have forgotten that Boethia tasks you with killing Elesif. I remember getting the ebony mail one time many years ago but that must have slipped my memory. Edit: no wonder I didn't remember it - it's an unused quest. I just looked it up and it was cut from the final game.
i've gotten so used to smp physics that I forgot how horrible the game looks without them. especially Nocturnal's robe. It's like you left the iron on way too long and now it's stiff as wood.
Because people are boring and don't want to look at black people. I'll never understand the motivations to make media less interesting by making everyone look the same. Take a whole race with tons of culture and history like the redguards and make them look the the same as every other race. Why would you want to simulate everyone being white? Because your ideal world is a comfortable bubble where nothing ever challenges you, and no other cultures or perspectives exist. I dont know why you would try that in skyrim though. Just ask yourself why its only redguards and not kajitt or argonians. Because theres a very real belief that black people are somehow ugly or bad.
13:48 What about the alternative choice when confronted by her, attacking her on her perch and killing her? I found from the point of learning that possibility the more interesting one… Killing the three others is a simple one… Everyone must have done THAT at least once, I figure.. But never figured you could kill Astrid in that moment instead and get the gear & dagger early… Plus that quest you can grab after the fact- sure, more to gain in gold and stuff by doing the Dark Brotherhood quest line (namely Astrid’s Horse who never really dies) but still… I am a big fan of killing Astrid for what I can get and hunting down the rest in their hide out for an insulting low price 😅 🤣
How Dare You Kill Balimund and Eorlund. As a fellow blacksmith player I will find you and make you pay for that. (Btw paying 250 gold for killing someone is WILD)
I don’t recall Boethiah to ever task me to kill Jarl Elisif when I got Daedric mail armour, was that a part of the quest that was cut off from the game before its release?
@@smillernexus oh ok, because I am not the type of person that skips dialogues and I am pretty sure I never had Boethiah asking me to kill my Jarl Elisef. :D. Thanks for clarifying.
@@stowlicters8362 emojis aren’t indicative of anything but insinuating they are is a mark a low iq, which white supremacists do have in common, statistically 😭😭😭
Hold on... Boethiah tasks you with killing Elisif? I've gotten her armor before, but this never happened! Is this an Anniversary Edition only? What are the consequences of her death?
