Kaido isn't dumb, but it's worth pointing out that one of Luffy's biggest claims to fame was breaking out of an impenetrable prison, and his first response after beating Luffy was locking him up in a prison with everyone else in the country who has beef with him.
My theory is that kaido built the prison not just to excavate stone but to gather strong people who have the balls to say no, I won't serve you I'd rather get up and fight again in order to find someone strong enough to give him a good fight
@Furor Teutonicus I mean hes just making a point that one of luffys greatest feats is breaking out of impel down and kaido thinks locking him in a prison is a good idea... whether or not he had help doing it dosent matter. You act like kaidos over here reading the manga with us and knows exactly how luffy broke out . The news report hid alot of the escaped prisoners. Luffy and buggy were the ones who got all the credit. So whoever read the paper saw that luffy was the mastermind. They don't know the details that we do.
I like to think that when Kaido let himself get captured so he could get food, he always made sure to spare the cook. Everyone else dies, but Private Jimmy Jenkins and his world famous chili get to see another day.
Not saying they need to have a prominent role in the story anymore, but we do need to address the Big Mom and Kaido situation. There's no way we could just have them defeated the way they were and not discuss their canonical fate
Precisely. Whitebeard's death led to a plethora of pirates and marines alike gunning for his territory. If *two* yonko are down then the amount of chaos involving their land and subordinates has to be mentioned!
Yeah and all their crew as well. We know for sure we haven’t seen the last of katakuri. And I think kaido will lick his wounds and now he realizes luffy is joy boy. I think kaido will come back and back up luffy in the end game .
Since it was left so vague i'm expecting one chapter in the future to end with Kaido out of nowhere coming back😱 Maybe he doesn't appear infront of the strawhats but somewhere else.
I have a personal HC that Kaido will help the straw hats at the final race to the one piece. He lived his life believing that might makes right and that only Joyboy could change the world. Well now Joyboy defeated him so I believe he would defend Joyboys dream. Just imagine the scene: the straw hats and the BB pirates are neck in neck on their way to Laugh tale when suddenly the marines show up with a giant fleet. A straight up buster call. Let’s say Fujitora starts sucking the SHs towards the marine ships with his gravity powers. But then, the sky goes dark, thunder and lightning boom above and a giant (burnet to hell) dragon god descends from the sky and boro-blasts all all the ships in the front line. The dragon transforms back into a half beast form and says “only Joyboy is allowed to change this world and if anyone wants to stop him they’ll have to go through me! Now… who wants to try and claim the head of the king of the beasts”. And kaido then proceeds to fight of the entire fleet as well as multiple admirals until he finally falls because of the combined power from the admirals, the never ending reinforcements of marines and the injuries he received from his dip in mt.Fuji I feel like this would be the perfect end for Kaido as he would finally get the great death he always wanted. He always wanted to be joyboy but couldn’t so he became a obstacle for joyboy to overcome instead. “If someone wants to be joyboy they have to overcome me first” kinda mentality so having Kaido die in defense of joyboy and continuing his role as “the gatekeeper” til his last breath and thus dying for the birth of a new age just like his idols before him would be perfect. Alas.. this probably won’t happen. Would be cool tho
Its strange to think that it is plausible in an alternate universe of One Piece that Kaido & Lilin still would have worked together as members of the admiralty because Mama would have been successful sold by Mother Carmel into the Navy.
Also they would be crazy hot, as going to the Marines would have been their good path in life. Probably would have been trained by Garp and stuff as well
The dude jumped off an island thousands of meters high, that sounds a lot more epic than “he drowned” He didn’t just want to die, he wanted to die in an epic way.
One Piece has to be one of the few series where you have someone that was punched through a planet into its molten core where we wonder when and where we will see them come back.
I think it’s also worth pointing out that however likely Kaido returning is, Big Mom’s return seems even more likely. Her fight with Kid and Law ended with her saying “Don’t you dare assume that this will kill me, You’ll pay for this” and I don’t think Oda will just leave it at that.
I feel like Kaido will return and the only way to plot this is to make him a Straw Hats ally. He accepted the existence of JoyBoy, as a character it doesn’t make sense to go back on his own belief. Probably he will fight against the World Government in the final war (we still don’t know how powerful a lot of enemies are). Also, wouldn’t make sense to bring back someone SO strong to fight Luffy again. At this point we have to assume that Luffy Gear 5 would win a 1-on-1 against Kaido without any help
Yeah it would be great as an insanely grand but one of many and “short” moments in the final war, maybe he drops in from the sky like his original appearance to fend off some gods knights or some seraphim or something who knows
I mean Luffys power as stated in marineford by mihawk I believe was quite literally “the ability to turn anyone into an ally” i definitely think that line was foreshadowing for the future final war coming. That aside, Luffy is the Sun God. Of course he turns damn near every person into an ally. He embodies freedom and leaves liberation in his wake. He is going to take down the world government and make the entire world his ally. Besides half the grand fleet is complete fodder anyways. (They’ll probably be fighting pacifista or something 💀) We just got the introduction of a whole new antagonistic faction in the God’s Knights!! that alongside the seraphim, admirals, goresi, imu, and whatever else oda wants to add, luffy has quite the battle cut out for him he will need some very powerful Allies especially since it seems the final villain will quite literally be immortal. WHO better to serve as ally to luffy than Kaido?? I mean he was literally the litmus test for Joyboy after finding out he couldn’t be him. Kaido dies in the final war and finally gets the warriors end he seeks.. but this time it will be fighting for the dawn on the right side of history.
I was literally thinking about when this video was going to come out at like 5am this morning. It’s literally been over a year I thought my thought was so random but here we are.
I hope we get a direct update on whole cake island and their territories as I doubt they will stay safe like what happened to white beard before My guess we will see a lot of riots and panic and the areas will be taken by shanks Blackbeard buggy and Luffy causing a massive shift
@@TheRiku57 could be a good idea as their slimes can scale large mountains but nobody is strong enough to beat Yamato in that group. Best thing to do is to get king and queen and run away with them making a counter group to vegapunk. I feel wano will stay dormant until pluton is released then we see them get invaded to prevent the war ship from being released
BM crew is good for nothing I mean literally everyone can reach onigasmia even a 8 year old child but BM crew and a yonko commander failed to do the simplest thing 😂
I sincerely believe that Kaido is too overpowered to come back. How do you even beat that dude in a way that would make him a side character? He’s too strong.
Kaido's entire mission in life was to either become Joy Boy or pave the way for Joy Boy. If it's revealed that he DID survive the volcano, it's entirely possible that Kaido ends up joining the Grand Fleet recognizing that Luffy succeeded in becoming Joy Boy. I'm 100% sure that Momo wouldn't just automatically forgive Kaido, but Kaido would be reinvigorated and could continue his mission to change the world. Not for himself, but to support Joy Boy.
@@orbboom6119 yes but why? What would the point of it be? What would be his goal? Is he going to be allies with somebody else? What’s he going to do when he comes back, just wreak havoc? Because that dude is STRONG.
Big Mom potentially returning could have a purpose for the Elbaf arc as we know she has history with the giants so her being truly defeated could happen there. Yet at the same time, I can't really see how her and Kaido aren't dead given what happened to them and where they currently are. This isn't the best comparison, but I thought the same of Pell when he had a nuke blow up right in his face and he ended up surviving. So at the same time, you can't categorically say they are gone for good because Oda doesn't kill off characters that much at all. We need answers.
I always thought it would be an interesting twist if Kaido was the man marked by flames, who traveled back from the future to protect the last road poneglyph in secret in order to make sure Luffy was the one who got to it because Kaido knows he is Joy Boy.
I think Kaido and Big Mom will come back into the story with Pluton and their awakenings and wreak pure havoc together in the final war having each other's back, and maybe perhaps even Luffy too having grown some respect for him as the Future Pirate King.
It's funny how both Kaido and Yamato had been waiting for Luffy their entire lives in a way. Kind of gives a new meaning to chapter 999-1000's titles "The sake I brew while waiting for you, Strawhat Luffy"
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I am curious if Oda will give us a back story to the Oni race as well as the Lunarians. I wonder if the Oni race met the same fate as the Lunarians because of how powerful they were. Edit: It was stated twice the Rocks Pirates downfall was because they didn't work together. Did it also occur to anyone that the big war Kaido wants to be a part of is the final war?
Yeah it kind of is implied that someone betrayed them. Big Mom and Kaidou actually come off as the loyal ones. So I'm guessing Shiki or Whitebeard. (Wang Xi taking over their old island can be read as him remaining loyal too to be honest.)
We need a real good explanation for how a group able to produce a Kaido can go near extinction. Like Kaido without his fruit is still a top 10. There had to have been others who either had better fruits or were just stronger naturally.
@@PlayerJay425 Oni and Lunarians are OP for sure. Might be the Holy Knights. Not sure how they would be built up otherwise as if they took out a lot of current day characters it might take away from the ending of the story. (Unless it's pirates like Capone or the like).
The kitetsu blades are known as "demon splitter" presumably they got that name for a reason That or the blacksmith just thought it sounded cool whichever
Wow "When is kaido" I remember when u joked sbout making a video like this in the future n then being serious about it! U finally did it🔥🔥 I remember i actually looked forward to being this far into the story of OP, back when u made the first "___ is kaido" vid
Tekking now that you are done with your "Who, What, When, Where, Why, and How" series on Kaido, you can start working on a "Who, What, When, Where, Why, and How" series for EVERY SINGLE One Piece Character.
I'm expecting a cover story for Kaido and Big Mom any week now... because based on Oda's past, the villians are all still alive, but that's literally all they (and we) have. I feel that Kaidou's best return story-wise would be if Kaidou and Mom have both been approached by the CP0 to turn on the pirate world, taken as much info as they could from that, and then turned down the CP0's offer, whatever it was, because they are truly PIRATES. Kaido knows that Joyboy is prophesied to return now, and Kaido has SEEN Him. I do wonder that he will have to say about that. and how he feels about being bested by another and learning that he is NOT the true joyboy, but that there IS one, and he HAS returned. He has died and risen and he his a God. That's Luffy today. We've come so far.
When you started talking about been frozen in time, at the beginning I thought you were humming the intro of futurama, because that's how he gets in the future. But then you said the 25th century and that reminds me duck dodgers, a looney toons show based on Buck Rogers. That was an amazing reference my friend
People always think kaido and shanks fought during or near marine ford. But what if shanks showed up with a bunch of booze and shanks distracted him with drinks and a party. Seems like something Shanks would do
i do really like this theory because it gives kaido a new purpose. before it was just fighting or finding something to kill him. now he becomes a separate piece of the story that allows luffy to fulfill his fate in a different light
I think Kaido is done. He got the death he wanted. There is no narrative importance for bringing him back. The only strand we have for his survival is that you have to think there had to be questions about their survival asked prior to the release of volume 104/105, yet the SBS doesn't include any mention of it. He will of course appear during the Rocks flashback.
It finally here, WHEN IS KAIDO, its always bug me a little that we don't get a lot of his backstory but as you said if he continues to be the gat keeper then I really want to see how he change form trying to be joyboy to helping the next one
You know Tekking about that Oreo in the treasure chest thing in the end. I literally got RU-vid ads about oreo in the middle of watching this video so they spoil it to me lmao
1:18. Funnily enough, the Boston Celtics have a player(Robert Williams) who goes by the nickname "Time Lord." Would have been a good meme to flash him on screen
I like the idea that Kaido will be like "Respect Luffy" But I prefer the idea that Big mom will be senile due to overuse of her soul soul fruit to heal herself and then the Big mom crew will have to take care of her as a senior.
That’s pretty good idea. Big Mam could still be a deterrent in their territory. Peeps would think twice before trespassing, lest they get a crazy senile Big Mam rampage, still strong af in its own right
When he listed the rock crew and said what if they combined to do some attack I proceeded to have thriller bark flashbacks thinking about them combine like the strawhats did 😂
Honestly you do have to remember Raleigh and Scopper plus Sengoku (and whoever the other 2 admirals were when Garp was in his prime) were likely at the battle of god valley so it was likely a split fight like the average straw hat raid. Which must've been EPIC.
Random thought, I wonder how much power the Kings who meet at Reverie really have. Supposedly they decided to abolish the warlords, but it would seem like they shouldn't be able to just make decisions like that, I guess after Imu makes decisions he lets the Kings think they did it so they can feel good
Why would Im care? At all? The warlord system is beneath him. It's inconsequential. Let these petty provincial leaders make their petty decisions about the things that don't matter. The king of the entire world doesn't need to micromanage.
I actually had a dream for a future arc where Luffy 1v1 Big Mom, no help. While Kaido takes on Luffys captains and Zoro can get his final attack on Kaido. And I was soooo hyped
I'm a time traveler from the future and let me tell you something: Chapter 1160 sadly didn't feature Kaido or Big Mom but what Rayleigh did there? Oof, huge. And the whole thing with Nami and the Wado-Ichimonji was also interesting. Most people didn't like the part about Franky and the vegetable juice, but it was at least a nice throwback in my opinion.
Everyone is wondering when Kaido will return. Others wonder when Doflamingo will return. And I'm here, along with everyone else, waiting for the return of Eneru. And then there are a selective more wondering when Don Krieg, Arlong, Morgan, and Kuro will return as well.
I picture Silver Axe as a 6'8 buff dude in Silver armor with a Spartan Helmet a long Silver Beard and mustache combo and a big Silver Axe which is also a Gun
33:44 It would be out of character for Kaido to not want to fight Luffy again. His entire deal is he loves fighting, but it might be a situation where Kaido recognizes it's not the time nor the place and he tells Luffy that he'd better not die because when the fight for Laughtale is over, they're going to have a rematch.
It’s strange that Kaido didn’t see being sold to the marines as a cushy promotion. He’d be doing the same thing as before (violence for hire) plus get a higher standard of living. Food! Authority! Maybe he just didn’t want to have higher ups telling him what to do.
I’m writing this so it’s written down somewhere. Rocks inherited will is Rocks refusing to let go like Oden did. So Rocks learns how to be immortal by possessing other people. Black beard has Rocks inside of him.
Idk…thinking about Luffy standing with his arms folded as Kaido charges past him to demolish fodder standing in the straw hats way is something I never knew I needed
BABIES IN A CHEST!! THE NEW CACHA GAME FOR YONKO CREWS!! You can get a 5 * character, like Shanks, but that's like less than 1% chance, and Jack is the 1 * you get all the time with like 80% probabilities
Love your videos Tekking!! Although didn’t Kaido say the selling out thing since that’s what Kaido’s kingdom did to him? It could also be related to the crew but still wanted to bring up it was mainly due to Kaido’s past
Silver Axe is on board as the captain of the black ship with the last pone-glyph. Seems more like the Rocks pirates were inadvertently protecting the red pone-glyph's. Whitebeard = fishmen island ( this one could be the one on the ship). ( but i personally think that Shanks moved it to Zou after his death.)hence why he has that rubbing already. Big mom = WCI Kaido = Wano Wang Zi probably had it on Hachinosu, but he then left after his defeat & joined Silver axe to the ship to be in continuous movement and cant be approached.
I believe that Silver Axe was Shakky's pirate alias. The reason why nobody knows about Shakky being Silver Axe is down to two eventualities: Option #1 in Greek myth it is known that Penthesilea is the daughter of Ares the Greek God of War known to the Romans as Mars so I believe Shakky might be the daughter of the Gorosei marked with Mars so like Donquixote Doflamingo was able to come to a special agreement where she agreed to be disowned to have her time as a Rocks Pirate removed as well as not being jailed at Impel Down. Option #2 Garp used his contacts within the Naval archives to remove Shakky's time as a pirate on the Rocks crew due to Shakky passing intel on the Rocks crew
It's really hard to guess what Kaido will do when he comes back. - Retake Wano? Probably not, but he might show up, have a confrontation with momonosuke and yamato and the scabards, might have some interaction with Pluton and wano's walls coming down. - Attack the marines? Unlikely, though I like the theory that he'll break down the gates of Impel Down - Go against Blackbeard? I just don't see it. There's a lot of possibilities, but honestly you could bet that he winds up working with Buggy and it'd be as likely as anything else
If Kaido is alive then he would side with Luffy since according to him Luffy is Joy Boy after beating him. If Big Mom is alive then it becomes a bit more interesting. She just lost the person she considered as a brother, lost face to straw hats twice and now, her territory has been invaded by Blackbeard pirates; they got a copy of her ponegliff and kidnapped Pudding. Ceaser and Germa have escaped and her territories are all endangered. On top of all of that, she is dethroned as the emperor of the sea.
The reason Yonko Crews keep finding babies inside of treasure chests is because the world of One Piece is a gotcha game. The system will reward you a 5-star crewmate guaranteed (delivered to you in a "treasure chest" ) every 100 wishes. This is why Yonko Crews tend to have so many riff-raff pirates and only a few powerful ones. Im-sama also knows this secret, but rather than earn "wishes" in game like the Yonko, Im-sama just pulls out his credit card to buy wishes and uses the heavenly tribute to pay for his gotcha addiction. (Which is why the HT is so expensive.)
Hey Tekking, toward the end you touched on a theory of mine where “Pirate King” isn’t just a title. I think that toward the end of the story when Luffy gets to Laugh Tale and finally defeats BlackBeard, the pirates of the world will acknowledge him as a literal ‘King’ of the Pirates. By this I mean that Luffy will have garnered the respect of all the pirates in the world and will lead them, as a King, in a war against Marie Jois. This would include: The Supernovas, Shanks, Buggy’s crew, Kaido (if he’s alive), and the rest of the Straw Hat fleet. Lemme know your thoughts and thanks for making these awesome videos!😁
Maybe Silver Axe was a silverback gorilla mink. Also i, too, find it hilarious that Kaido was intentionally getting captured just so he could eat the marines' food.
I really don't think he needs to return in any major capacity. Just in flashbacks to the Rocks era. I personally liked that he went out with a whimper, because that's exactly what he deserved. He wanted a grand death at the hands of JoyBoy? Too bad, get dunked in a volcano with only Momo and Yamato as witnesses.
so I did a drawing of kaido and king appearing at the final war on luffy's side. Kaido still wants to turn the world upside down, he sees luffy, the one who defeated him as joyboy surely he would want to fight by joy boy's side. kind of a parallel to rocks or BB where kaido acknowledges luffy's Freedom even more so then his strength. I really do see kaido as having this lobo sort of no F's given rocker attitude. I could easily see a Drunken kaido and king make a return for the final war. I feel king will appear because king isn't like queen he's genuinely loyal and believes in a world turned upside down by joy boy. I feel if Kaido is alive he will still be seeking a grand death and king like zoro for luffy will be there until kaido is no more. ngl if kaido gets a list of injuries like white beard at marineford it would make alot of sense. kaido's final 9th defeat sounds like a great climax to his incredible story like a warrior of to Valhalla kaido has to go out swinging
It would be sick if he dies just like Whitebeard, taking in all the Admirals, and the Navy fleet while also holding them back so Luffy and the Straw hats can make it to the One Piece. He would finally have his great death he’s been seeking.
I could see a flashback of Kaido pledging loyalty to the king of the Vodka kingdom, then regretting it and think he would never do that again. Then making the same mistake with Rox. And now realizing Luffy is Joyboy and is actually worthly of pleding loyalty to
Tekkings next video of kaido will be "IF it`s Kaido?" will probably we a cliffhanger to a future chapter where there will see a silhouette character, the whole community will guess who the character will be, and we will have a scenario of IF its kaido, then this scenario will occur.. example, instead of York as the traitor and we didn't know, there would be a if its kaido, debating why kaido kidnaps vegapunk or something, or if imu was kaido, ect...... lol
That is exactly how I imagine Kaido coming back. Kaido deserves an epic death like Whitebeard’s. Gate keeping against the admirals would be crazzyyy epic. Of course he would die, but if he atleast gets oneis gonna be amazing.