Hey everyone! Thanks for watching the video! Seeing a lot of people commenting before watching the video (which is fine), but the final third of the video goes into whether he even is a movie star and the state of the industry. It's definitely a topic worth discussing. Also any actors / directors you want videos on? We got a lighthearted video on an actor and another film production / list video in the works.
Michael J Fox made a bunch of great movies (mostly in the 90's) that nobody ever talks about, although a few have memes. The secret of my Success, Greedy, Life with Mikey, The Concierge and a few others.
Absolutely not....there will be many more people who can and will be superstars. I remember every one talking about Tom Cruise being considered the last movie star.
Yup! We go into the idea that’s it’s a next gen of movie stars but don’t compare to the pull the originals had. But it’s not their fault but just how the industry is evolving. Hopefully we’ll get back to more original filmmaking in the future but at the moment its super risky not making films on existing IPs
@@FilmStack I mean I don’t say this to sound rude but I feel like you’re kind of using the original films issue to just not acknowledge how selective with the actors you mention is. Daniel Kaluuya has been the face of many original films that have been financially successful and award winning, always in the posters and has an acting Oscar to which Timothee, Ana, and Florence do not have still. I’d even bring up Dev Patel who just started in his directorial debut to a successful box office run on his own. There are movie stars, you’re kind of just being picky with who you want them to be tbh.
Nah, he’s the first of the new movie stars. And half of them were in Dune Part Two. Glen Powell’s another one. But I’m glad this new batch is celebrated for their acting as much as anything else.
Glen Powell hasn't proven himself at the box office outside of one successful romcom with Sydney Sweeney. His only upcoming movie is Twisters, a reboot of an established IP. None of the "new movie stars" have proven themselves so far.
@@TheRockerX Top Gun: Maverick, Anyone But You, Hit Man, and Twisters have all been hits, and the last three especially due to his star presence. Now it's likely that the first two will get sequels. I'd say he's proven himself? I know people who went to see Twisters purely because of him.
It's actually incredibly impressive how many of the future stars and best actors Denis snagged for roles in Dune and Dune Part Two. It's probably the best cast I've ever seen
Zendeya, Tim Chalamet, Austin Butler, Florence Pugh, Glen Powell, Anya Taylor joy, all people who will be the stars of Hollywood and the faces people will look back on. Coincidentally most were in dune 2.
And 80% of Society Never Even Heard of Those Actirs You Mention..Tom Cruise/Denzel Washington/Daniel Day Lewis are Movie Stars and Were WELL Known Early in Career
Maybe but he also has shown the poorest judgment and the worst taste of that same generation. Name another serious young actor who has joined the Kardashian family.😱
It isn't often that an actor/actress can keep my attention. The last one was Shia Labeouf, whose star power burned out fast. I have watched Timothée in several movies, and he is very good. He plays so many different characters. It is refreshing. I am looking forward to Dune III. Just my thoughts.
Good video, but I wish there had been more focus on Miss Stevens. As a wannabe actor, he delivers a monologue from Death of a Salesman which may be the most powerful thing he's ever done. It's even better considering it was from a time in his career (pre-CMBYN) when he thought he was a failed actor himself.
Well many people hated Wonka and said no one asked for it yet it made 630M+ he brought many people to watch Wonka, bones and all despite being gross people still went to watch for him it wouldn't even make what it made if he wasn't in it, he brought many people for Dune as well, the 90s Dune movies flopped it's not a huge IP
It's amazing to me that this kid who looks like he's been taking an estrogen supplement for most of his life has not only risen to great fame as an actor but is even adored by many young women. But I will concede that he has talent and a certain amount of charisma.
Hey this video is great who doesn't love timothee chalet I love his movie by Wonka because he's singing it's just amazing and emotional make me cry by pure imagination 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I love his acting he's funny and talented i actually have a blanket of him that i got for my 18 birthday this year
He had so many connections to the industry and went to a very preppy acting academy ever since he started all his roles are given to him like candy which doesn’t happen for most other actors. It’s like they want him to have a most versatile filmography as possible at a young age by putting him in wonka to appeal to kids so they know who he is then a Bob Dylan biopic to get the boomers familiar with him and in dune as an action heroine for the teens. whoever his army of people that are behind his career know what they’re doing to get him to be seen as this Hollywood golden boy because most other working actors will never get the opportunity to get the roles he has
I went to the theater just to see Timothee play Wonka. I'm not a fan of either the other two. His small role in Don't Look Up made me notice him, Dune made me love him. Dune 2 is an incredibly film. Movies at the theater are so much an expense, it's cheaper to watch at home. Huge television with high Def and surround sound make it easy to wait for the comfort. He is an amazing actor. I have an eye for it. I knew Tom Hardy before he was a household name. I knew of Walton Goggin's talents before he was the Ghoul. Hollywood itself is going downwards bc franchises are killing the industry. People are growing tired of them. It'll likely pick back up one day, but it'll need some change.
I agree that he is the most promising star!! I for one have watched all his films after seeing him in Beautiful Boy! That role introduced me to his amazing and gifted talent and I will definitely be watching any future films that he stars in.. I’m waiting patiently for A Complete Unknown
I dunno, it seems like people are always claiming that one thing or another is ruining the movie industry. Some things I've been told ruined Hollywood are Intellectual properties, Marvel, sequels, special effects, politics, block busters. I think I even heard once that Talkies ruined movies. All of these things have killed the industry in the past btw. For example, Intellectual properties is not a new concept for Hollywood. Monty Python, James Bond, Carry On, The Three Stooges, Universal Classic Monsters, Police Academy, National Lampoons, Pink Panther, and many more are all IPs that were hugely popular for a time but are not being made anymore. Excluding Bond of course, but it too has nearly died several times in the past. In my experience it's best to just sit back and go with the flow. The movie industry is an ever changing beast and something different will be killing movies in another decade. Probably narrow AI or something.
Put Timmy in a taxi driver remake. Even if it went scene for scene unchanged, it would be magnificent. This man will one day play a romantic/life/full-bodied film role that will make everything which came before, and will one day follow, seem negligible.
I’m Gen Z which starts in 97 he was born in 95 he and Florence Pugh Anya Taylor Joy are the last of the millennial stars Gen Z hasn’t barely begone to have stars
@@FilmStack Maybe, but so far he hasn't had his big personal movie in my opinion. Elvis is a biopic so it barely counts, and he was a great villain in Dune 2. But he hasn't had his Wonka/Challengers/Anyone but You. I think he can evolve into a Willem Dafoe-like figure, and i'd be happy with that.
Denis Villeneuve said he believed timmy was perfect for the role when he was already writing the script but he also said he believed certain faces would pull in a demographic that wasn't familiar with dune towards the franchise. I know younger people who didn't know anything about dune but simply watched it because timothee was acting in it. the same demographic also went in because of zendaya. After his performance in call me by your name, people went through his catalogue and watched the movie miss stevens and the reviews on imdb just talking about his performance alone in that small indie movie is insane. same with hot summer nights, which flopped and yet reviews said 'it was worth watching because of his performance'. hell his character in 'don't look up' a movie leo and j.law were in, where he improvised practically all his lines is one of the best characters in that film, which apparently also flopped somewhat. so sure, that's not carrying an IP but giving memorable performances in movies small or big that have people singing his praises even when he's not the main character is quite a pull for someone at the stage he's at in his career. Also, IP's flop very easily these days even when they have a good director. considering how much people say they want to see original content these days. People getting mad when they call him a 'star' makes no sense to me. nobody Is saying he's better than seasoned actors. people like leo have over 30 movies under their belt but at 28 leo had majorly Indie movies under his belt aside from 'titanic' and 'catch me if you can'. there were people back then who doubted he could act and said he was only popular because he was pretty . and johnny depp was well into his 30's when he started being recognised for roles AT ALL. aside from 'edward scissorhands' 'baby boy' and 'whats eating gilbert grape'. he was nearing 40 yrs when he got the role of jack sparrow, was well into his 40's when he did 'charlie and the chocolate factory' and he was even late 40's in 'alice in wonderland'. Chalamet is literally 28 right now. he still has a ways to go but has quite an impressive movie catalogue, gives memorable performances even in movies he isn't leading, and has accolades to his name that is quite an achievement for someone his age. he has clearly earned his 'stardom' based on talent and considering what he's done at this age, it's not far fetched to call him a 'star' even if evidently he has a ways to go. Obviously he's not the only one, saiorse ronan, Florence pugh, anya taylor joy, paul mescal etc are just as impressive if not more. I think a lot of good movies with the box office flops this year have nothing to do with the actors but the literal economy rn as well as the rise of streaming services. the world is changing after all.
@@dameanvil Um... Denis Villeneuve's Dune is adapted directly from Frank Herbert's book, and is not copying any of the other unsuccessful attempts at filming Dune.
Well done for highlighting Miss Stevens, which this video sadly glossed over. In it, while playing a wannabe actor, he delivers a monologue from Death of a Salesman which may be the most powerful thing he has ever done.
@@dameanvil Um... I have indeed read Dune. I'm sorry, but your English is extremely poor, so I may have misunderstood your posts. It's pretty clear you are talking complete nonsense anyway. Nearly all readers of Dune agree that Denis Villeneuve made an excellent adaptation, probably the best cinematic adaptation that was possible. (Obviously films and books are different artforms, so there are slight changes, but the spirit of the story has been conveyed perfectly.) Please don't reply to me with any more nonsensical posts.
He was awesome in The King! Really changed my mind about him. Also why is being a nepo-baby such a bad thing? Lots of people get regular jobs based on who their parents know
True, but he isn't even a nepo-baby. His mother is a Broadway dancer turned realtor, and his father is a journalist turned UN worker. His uncle directed tiny things nobody has heard of, and certainly wasn't responsible for his success. It was years of small indie movies that led to his success.
@@AbcDef-ww2gy right that makes sense! I'll concede to nepotism baby point to you. Although, since his mother was in Broadway, she could have known people in the jndustry rhat know people in the industry to help him on his path to being a great actor
@@SmithSens16 True, she could have, but I doubt it, because she was a chorus girl not a star. He was just another jobbing actor, doing auditions and getting countless rejections. If any one person can be given the credit for starting his career, I'd say it's director Christopher Nolan, who liked his audition and cast him as Matthew McConaughey's son in Interstellar, back in 2013/2014. That's where it all began.
I am appreciative of the effort the creators put into summarising TC movies, however I fundamentally disagree that he is not the actor for whom people would come to see the film. I might not be a representative of the general population, but I literally watch movies with TC only because of him. I personally find Dune sequels dull and uninteresting. His best movies, as he said himself, were Ms Stevens - a prelude, CBYN - part 1, and Beautiful Boy - part 2. Hoping 'the complete unknown' will become part 3. I am not even talking about his intelligence, humbleness and sense of style, which set him far apart from the other young actors mentioned here. He is one of a kind, and if the mob is generally excited by blockbusters and other commercial IP crap these days, this has nothing to do with TC talents, just a way of keeping up with career. Nothing to compare with Di Caprio either. Completely different style of work and set of talents. He can shine in Broadway shaws or in Chanel commercials. He is bloody good.
You can forget him as the next big movie star. He is the newest inhabitant of Kardashian World and all the serious movie makers and actors hate the Kardashians. They are cheap and poisonous. Word is his fiancé, Kylie Jenner wants to be an actor and she plans on TC opening doors for her.
Could you do a video on Humphrey Bogart, John Wayne, Mel Gibson or Steven Seagal? Not that I want to pressure you or anything, but I would find it interesting.
this is the age of youtubers being handed A-list status given to them by a faulty algorithm. And I'm not alone in believing it has lowered the quality of both the film and music industry.
Lets be honest, there aren't much young actors, that are as unique as for example Jim Carrey, Jack Nicholson, Nicolas Cage, Maggie Smith or my absolute favorite Geoffrey Rush. So much of the old movie stars have something to them, that let them stand out the masses and that makes you wanna see them, not especially the movie itself.
Tim Isn't *that guy* - Hollywood has cherry picked him and proceed to attach him to iconic IP's. He Isn't capable of single-handedly carrying an obscure movie like a prime Will Smith, Tom Cruise, The Rock or Leonardo, It's not even close. He's not even an A lister yet
People think because an actor is in successful movies he is one a movie star. And two the success is because of them. It has more to do with the property and execution than the actor.
Am I the only one or you guys also think that timothee is the type of personality that is only limited to trend on the internet. But when it comes to shine as a global movie star and run the movie by his own name then it's gonna be really hard for him. Not just hard but impossible ig. Because he is just not that type.
Agreed, until he can show that he's capable of taking an original studio film like Jerry Maguire / Vanilla Sky, Hitch / i Robot, The Game Plan / San Andreas or Shutter Island / The Revenant (as the stars you've mentioned above) to box office success, then he's not even in the conversation with those guys.
Don't get it twisted, I agree that the kid, Timothée is in fact a great acting talent. His peers are not as talented as he is, he's next level. So, he would be the last of is kind if the movie industry in this era hadn't killed off the movie star. Until the movie industry flips back to original movies carried by a *_movie star_* here will be no more movie stars.
What If The BayVerse ended with Dark Of The Moon instead and the TF film series rebooted with Travis Knight's BumbleBee in 2012 and sequels like Age Of Extinction and Transformers: Last Knight didn't exist
@@stdamonsbeard Actually Dead Reckoning released the same time as Barbenheimer so for most folks who only go to the cinema 3 to 4 times per year, it was over before it had even begun.
@@thetalentof That isn't a great excuse especially since you say Tom Cruise is the last movie star. Also Dead Reckoning opened the week before those two movies. And even then the opening was weak which is important.
@@thetalentof What is harder to open IP or non IP movies? Also the MI series has been Tom’s most consistent box office franchise. And even the previous installment one did well. And Top Gun his previous film was a massive hit. And yet couldn’t open Dead Reckoning. Point being every film is a crap shoot. Especially now a days.
Calling him a movie star is a stretch. I personally don't consider any of the young crop of actors "movie stars". They're working actors. A movie star to me is not only someone that can fill theaters but also someone with cultural impact and influence on a global scale spanning across different demographics such as age, sex, nationality, ethnicity, etc. The post-2010 actors simply don't have that same pull due to the rise of social media and streaming.
He is a Good Actor But so are MANY Other Actors...He Certainly is NOT a Household Name and Highly Doubt He Ever Will be...SUPERSTAR??...Stop it...You Must be a Big Fan of His i Guess
I feel like he can’t really carry a franchise on his own to box office success. The only real movie star that can carry a box office under 40 would be Ryan Gosling
Actually chris hemsworth Tom Huddleston cillian Murphy Jake gyllenhall fassbender and maybe even Tom hardy are all top names and are more of household names than this guy an I’m sure most if not all of them are under 40!
The last movie stars are Tom Cruise & Jackie Chan. Had to say it. These men are still alive and active and are referred to as a legends while they still breath. They do their own stunts.
Under 30? He's under 30? It's not that he looks over 30. If something he looks like a teen, but I thought he was one of those cases of "too young looking for someone in his 30s". Altho, let's be real: he probably will be one of those cases eventually.
I feel like we need to stop talking about who is considered a movie star if we’re not gonna cover the actual industry politics of that label. Timothee definitely isn’t a movie star, such a thing just doesn’t exist unless the definition is updated.
Besides, except for Wonka and Dune 1&2, his lastest films have been underachievers/flops at the box office: French Dispatch, Don’t Look Up, Rainy Day in New York, Bones and All, Beautiful Boy. Little Women, Intergalactic and Lady Bird were not starring roles for TC and his Chanel Ad stunk. I don’t think this Bob Dylan biopic is going to do well either.
The haters would say the author is a hack spewing idiocies for the sake of clicks. But that is not true. Now, with Chalamet dead at 95, we can certainly make such statements.
List of his movies: Hits. (Financial Successes) Dune 1&2 (ensemble cast) Wonka (starring) Interstellar (small role) Little Women (ensemble cast) Lady Bird (small role) Call me by your name (starring) Flops (financial failures) Bones and all. (Starring) Don’t look up (ensemble cast) French Dispatch (ensemble cast) Rainy Day in New York (Starring) The King (Starring) Beautiful Boy (Starring) Not a overwhelming success yet.
@9:38 negative. audiences want good original stories and all we're getting is watered down or subversive shit platters of once beloved IP now run into the ground.
He’s ruined every great movie he’s ever played a major role in and is no way anywhere near DiCaprio who played a perfect young king Louis the 14th and fur trapper being mauled half to death by a bear. He’s no where near DiCaprio. Sorry.
People keep trying to push this idea that movie stars are disappearing somehow. Here is a list of modern movie stars who are not known for their characters or stuck in a disney box: We have Ryan Gosling, Margot Robbie, Mia Goth, Barry Keoghan, LaKeith Stanfield, Bill Skarsgard, Aaron Taylor Johnson just to name some
literally none of those people quantify as 'movie stars'. movie stars are people with international appeal to all demographics who can make non-ip projects (blockbusters, independent and studio backed films alike) a success with critics, audiences and most of all, in box office numbers. i love all those people you mentioned, but none of them qualify as movie stars. no one really does anymore except maybe cruise and, despite the fact that i don't particularly like him, the rock.
@@ikateeo so ryan gosling isn’t a movie star, right margot robbie isn’t either neither is bill skarsgard All such versatile actors who we’ve seen strut their stuff time and time again. To me these people are movie stars.
the last movie star? seriously? I never heard of him before dune and still might not recognize him on the street. how long have you been working for him?
False. He was middle class. His mother is a Broadway dancer turned realtor, and his father is a journalist turned UN worker. He had no useful connections in Hollywood. It was a decade of bit parts and indie films which led to his success.
Huh? It is a massive global blockbuster and also acclaimed by critics, being Certified Fresh on RT. The most important audience was children and their parents, and both those groups raved about it.
Haha it wasn’t meant to be so bleak! It’s more of a discussion and we end off on a positive note. But yeah i agree there will be new movie stars, but they aren’t like the ones we’ve been used to. Atm at least, their names don’t have a major impact on a film’s success
His performance in call me by your name is nothing short of stellar. The way he completely captured what it’s like to be in love from his mannerisms and his little gestures really add to his acting capabilities
Yeah that performance along with Beautiful Boy show he can act very well! Most people only watched him in Dune which he was good in, but there are so many other great things going for the films that you don’t really focus on the performances
@@FilmStack I agree I’d say for films like dune performances are never the forefront of the film unlike the more grounded tamer films like CMBYM, beautiful boy and bones and all
This guy?? A film star?? Barely heard of him. Give it a few years and a few bombs. Movies as we knew them are over. There are no "stars" anymore. What a bunch of nonsense.
This guys been in 6 best picture nominated movies-and he’s not even 30 yet. Just because you aren’t up to date on the zeitgeist doesn’t mean others aren’t.
Holy spice you need to chill out with that title …….put it back in your pants and lets see what he is like in 10 years time ..with his film choice and success
Death of the movie star is very common topic these days, and a trend we’ve been seeing over the last few years. Not something we just made up. But we do look it at in a more positive way near the end
@@janpol466 Neither does he! Understand that it is YOUR OWN problem that you haven't kept up with good movies recently. (He's been in 5 or 6 Best Picture nominees. Why haven't you seen them? YOUR problem!) It's also your problem if you don't keep up with modern culture, because he is a significant part of it. If you want to improve your knowledge, I suggest watching Dune Parts 1 and 2, Call Me By Your Name, Little Women, Lady Bird, Don't Look Up (which were all Best Picture nominees), or if you prefer, the children's fantasy musical Wonka, which was a massive global blockbuster hit.
