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When you don't play with your team in Overwatch 2 (Spectating Gold) 

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@HmongHeroo
@HmongHeroo 6 месяцев назад
Team just seems like playing on 5 different speeds erratically and the enemy team is feasting from multiple 2 v 5s, 1 v 1s, and early picks (that hanzo and dva were eating)
@noobiesensei6281
@noobiesensei6281 6 месяцев назад
It was a tricklefest, I totally get what the person who sent this replay was doing. They were just trying to help a goon that went 1v5 and... They're already down. Time to disengage.
@thekrakenguy6962
@thekrakenguy6962 6 месяцев назад
@@noobiesensei6281 if you’re trying to help in a 1v5 you are as much a part of the problem.
@cruzerro3451
@cruzerro3451 6 месяцев назад
That’s how I play hog just treat the fight as a bunch 1v1s
@aiiimeee
@aiiimeee 6 месяцев назад
i'm
@TheShapingSickness
@TheShapingSickness 6 месяцев назад
Only reason why they almost won was because this guy was FORCED to play together because of the Overtime... I'm willing to bet anything that this Moira had INSANE healing and damage, despite being of no use for the team in the slightest.
@emieyebrows
@emieyebrows 6 месяцев назад
"Use ur ult" *uses ult and gets rolled anyway* "Should have saved it" oof /j
@crisdelgadillo6502
@crisdelgadillo6502 6 месяцев назад
that's what im saying
@epsilon1876
@epsilon1876 6 месяцев назад
He said the timing for that ult at 3:18 was earlier. The Kiri waited too long and was too far back to use it until her teammates were dying (or will die) from Soldier ult. The earlier ult would've allowed Kiri to heal or suzu instead of being in her ult animation to potentially save the team and hopefully get the elim on Soldier. That's what made it a waste - you could see her hesitate before using it
@declanmadden6058
@declanmadden6058 6 месяцев назад
She kind of sat there waiting until her doom had already died and she couldn’t save her soldier because she was ulting
@TgPepper
@TgPepper 6 месяцев назад
I mean no disrespect to people that main Moira. But I notice a lot of Moira mains have this severe problem called “scoreboard syndrome” where their derive their in game value off of the scoreboard. Don’t do that, if this were CoD, maybe even Val, do that. Overwatch and Scoreboard don’t go hand in hand, trust me.
@MrCageinblood
@MrCageinblood 6 месяцев назад
Good take
@lloydfromfar
@lloydfromfar 6 месяцев назад
love that comment! :)
@TheShapingSickness
@TheShapingSickness 6 месяцев назад
"but I have 20k damage and 20k healing!!!"
@roguechemist2529
@roguechemist2529 6 месяцев назад
played with some guy once who was the stereotypical "how can a support have more damage than dps" "i have the most healing and the most damage done". im just like yes, cuz you played moira. doesnt mean you were valuable when you needed to be. as a moira main i rly dont like moira mains
@DragonMagiccircle
@DragonMagiccircle 6 месяцев назад
Oof, realizing that this applies to myself more than I'd like to admit. I'm not one to throw around scores at other folks, but I just realized how much I lean on it when deciding whether or not it makes sense to switch.
@nightsxgames
@nightsxgames 6 месяцев назад
He keeps turning to heal the tracer... right when the doom dives in - he turns back just enough to see doom die. - It looks like the Moira keeps saving fade for escape but is playing with mobile team members so cant keep up - use that fade to keep close but dont enter enemy space with it.
@Pluto_ISA_Planet
@Pluto_ISA_Planet 6 месяцев назад
I usually use fade only to keep up with teammates or dodge
@Tinyqil
@Tinyqil 6 месяцев назад
Genuine question Emongg! Would you ever want to do a team review Vod??? I play with a 3-5 stack majority of comp games and most of us watch your content! We’re all working on getting better and would love advice to improve and hopefully hit high diamond this season. I was just curious
@LtWaphlz
@LtWaphlz 6 месяцев назад
Now that he’s on a team for OWCS, absolutely agree. Might be good after their second attempt in April or after more scrims in the interim for story reasons. Hope it happens even just once to see how it goes. It is a lot more to think about and a co-spectating might be better, so one time cool thing probably.
@stevegelec
@stevegelec 6 месяцев назад
I’d watch it 🤷‍♂️
@felipemoraes9488
@felipemoraes9488 6 месяцев назад
Spilo coached Emongg's team, there is a video on his channel
@stevegelec
@stevegelec 6 месяцев назад
@@felipemoraes9488 cheers I’ll look into it 👍
@LtWaphlz
@LtWaphlz 6 месяцев назад
@@felipemoraes9488 Sounds like the perfect person to collab on one with! Also that was a fantastic watch. It’s been awhile since I’ve seen the game analyzed from that perspective
@ZarelidT
@ZarelidT 6 месяцев назад
Naw this Doom is literally NOT having fun. We all know that walking back from spawn to the fight is NOT fun. Him refusing to switch while OBVIOUSLY not having fun is the worst thing about OW. He’s genuinely not caring about anyone else but himself and this is a team game. That’s why this game is awful
@crisdelgadillo6502
@crisdelgadillo6502 6 месяцев назад
honestly he just kept diving in alone getting rolled respawn and repeat
@ZarelidT
@ZarelidT 6 месяцев назад
@@crisdelgadillo6502 yeah I know. But the fact he keeps doing it while making his team suffer for it is INSANITY
@moleedaboi
@moleedaboi 6 месяцев назад
It's not the game that's awful tho
@crisdelgadillo6502
@crisdelgadillo6502 6 месяцев назад
@@ZarelidT oh in no way am i disagreeing with you
@ZarelidT
@ZarelidT 6 месяцев назад
@@moleedaboi it’s the people this game attracts
@mathildebrun408
@mathildebrun408 6 месяцев назад
Hiya!
 I’m the Kiri/Moira in this vid and I really want to thank Emongg for watching my VOD! 
I know that I have a LOT to work on to get better in the game. I need to stop playing so defensively, I need to trust my team more, and understand other player’s playstyle better (also, my mechanics, oh boy). I also want to offer some context, though, for why I was playing the way I did, and why I wrote that I wasn’t the problem in this game. Throughout the entire game, the Doomfist and Hanzo were going at in VC, saying possibly some of the most horrible things I have ever heard in my life. When it got too awful (slurs got involved), I went in VC as well to put my foot down and say enough is enough, just play the game. However, when you are a woman playing and you go into VC, there is automatically a target on your back. The moment they heard that there was a woman among them, they did not hesitate, especially the DPS. How dare I play a video game? In my anger, I made a mistake - I engaged. I told him that currently, a woman was doing better at the game than him. In my haste to defend not only myself, but also our Lucio, my playstyle started reflecting how I felt - alone. I was trying to handle DPSing, healing, pushing all by myself. Meanwhile, I was still hearing the vilest of words in my ear, leaving me with little faith in my team - expect the Lucio, I loved that guy. It’s not an excuse. I should have done better, have been better. But I’m only human and hearing what I heard for about 13 minutes, it would get to anyone. 
So, I’ll take this game as a lesson. As soon as the slurs come out, that’s an immediate mute, no matter how much I want to tell this person off, to stand up to them. But please, let this game also be a message for the entire OW community - when someone attacks someone else simply for existing, for simply being a woman, please show your support. This isn’t the first time that I personally have faced stuff like this and many other women will tell you the same thing. So much that many of us don’t even want to talk, knowing that it will just cause trouble. Please, look out for us - it means more than you think
@agroteraaaa
@agroteraaaa 6 месяцев назад
ugh, that sounds like an awful experience. as another gal, i totally get where you're coming from. hope you get some good games in the near future
@sethescope
@sethescope 6 месяцев назад
the biggest lesson I have had to learn re: the Internet is that you're not required to give someone the opportunity to be shitty to you. in an ideal world, people wouldn't be shitty over a video game of all things, but unfortunately we live in our current world. and we can't control other people. however, we can control whether we give them space in our lives to be shitty to us. now, ymmv, but I'm old enough that I don't have time for people's shit, I don't even bother with text or voice chat for the most part. if people want to throw tantrums, they can throw tantrums but I don't have to hear it. the ping system is robust enough that I don't think voice chat is necessary whatsoever until maybe masters, especially because you can indicate to your teammates how long it will be until you have important cooldowns again with the ping system. now, is it a very cool and chill thing that online bullshit disproportionately affects marginalized communities? no. I'm part of a marginalized community and I think a lot about the effect online toxicity has in terms of limiting meaningful access to equal opportunities in online spaces. but I can't control that. I can only control myself. it's a hard lesson to learn because people just shouldn't be shitty in the first place. it's unfair. it's not okay. but accepting that you can only control what is within your control is very freeing and it's a big relief. overwatch is so much more fun now that I'm not constantly on edge waiting for someone to be an asshole.
@hammadvulgar5884
@hammadvulgar5884 6 месяцев назад
The problem is that standing up to them gets you reported and your account silenced, as I’ve recently found out
@StarsetFlight
@StarsetFlight 6 месяцев назад
Gotta toughen up and get your mental game strong before you're ever gonna get your gameplay strong.
@whysoserious8177
@whysoserious8177 6 месяцев назад
I totaly understand y when I play with a girlfriend she somtimes get blamed for no reason. A than i know what kind of players they Are and we dont Care about them. A good Tipp this games happens mute the VC and ignore the bad vibes in Team Chat do your best take the loose next game will be better. But you will See with the mindset „i do my best and i Look at my mistakes“ you help your Team and even if you just win 1 from 10 of this games you win 1 More and over time you will win 2 of10 than 3 of 10 and So on. Thats the way i climb up To High Dia from mid Plat.
@Shadowfex
@Shadowfex 6 месяцев назад
I use to do this alot, but they are playing scared. Every time they would get pressured, their instinct was to run away from the fight instead of towards their teammates. It was really evident on their Moira, as the fade was constantly used to go back toward spawn even when the team fight was still happening.
@ralphforbes5807
@ralphforbes5807 6 месяцев назад
This entire match is what the hell are any of you doing, it's not just your team it's you too lmao
@vcp2077
@vcp2077 6 месяцев назад
The hanzo was rolling their entire team, I've been noticing the same in my lobbies too, looks like a lot of the higher rank hanzos have started to terrorise the lower rank lobbies, or the projectile changes have made all hanzo players into gods
@loopymomy2532
@loopymomy2532 6 месяцев назад
nope its because they nerf the hell out of hanzo so hanzo players are stuck in lower rank lobbies
@MyName_Jeff
@MyName_Jeff 6 месяцев назад
​@@loopymomy2532nope
@Anvients
@Anvients 6 месяцев назад
This game is certainly moiras fault 😂 as soon as they take a tick of damage they fade into a different map
@AluRooftop
@AluRooftop 6 месяцев назад
Like i get that there's people who just like playing the "macro" game more but imma be real. I don't really care about how bad this gold kiriko's aim is but the specific way in which it was bad looked a lot like getting overwhelmed by trying to heal and deal damage in quick succession and not being able to switch between the two modes of aim. Either that or just not paying enough attention to the damage. After watching more of the gameplay it really seems like this person doesn't pay a lot of attention to their damage output and doesn't look a lot for opportunities to deal damage. Paying more attention to the damage they are doing and practicing this switching or simultaneous attention to protection and aggression would be my first suggestion for making that hyper defensive playstyle more flexible.
@gogool808
@gogool808 6 месяцев назад
The funniest thing for me is that doom constantly diving into and focusing the dva but the hanzo was uncontested everytime. Uses full rotation into dva and is always stuck in the open, doesn't even get a kill for his efforts. Yeah I don't think diving with this doom is the play my man. Lmao
@moleedaboi
@moleedaboi 6 месяцев назад
They're playing to survive alone rather than to help the team win...
@thomaswestendorf9213
@thomaswestendorf9213 6 месяцев назад
I know console isn’t as popular, but I wouldn't mind having more Gold or Plat console lobby reviews (for context I play on console, so it doesn’t feel like certain things on PC translate to console the same).
@bootoo
@bootoo 6 месяцев назад
the first spectating where i don’t agree with emongg
@crisdelgadillo6502
@crisdelgadillo6502 6 месяцев назад
same, the doom seemed to be a huge problem they kept diving in and getting rolled and refused to switch.
@EmoTheElephant
@EmoTheElephant 6 месяцев назад
yeah the doom kept going in 1v4/5 and yeeting himself halfway across the map, only way the moira could have followed a lot of the time was by burning fade and then have no CD to escape, and with the dva there any heal orb used would have been eaten immediately. Instead of the match going doom going in > dies, it would have been, doom goes in > gets kept up by moira > escapes > moira dies. Also with the hanzo locking down the mid cuthroughs I can understand why they were worried about running through that area. The moira didn't play so much with the team as they could have but honestly neither did the doom, who was going in before the tracer had set up and kept cutting off line of sight to the kiri.
@vvarui
@vvarui 6 месяцев назад
Even tho the doom was hard diving, this moira is literally playing uber back - almost as if babysitting the tracer (crazy)
@emilior934
@emilior934 6 месяцев назад
​@warui46 nah. Doom not contesting the enemy hanzo, while enemy Dva is. Basically hanzo got staggered and Doom refused to peel the whole match.
@moleedaboi
@moleedaboi 6 месяцев назад
While it's true that doom was feeding, moira was playing way too scared.
@ladyshinx2973
@ladyshinx2973 6 месяцев назад
As a woman who mains support in ranked on overwatch I feel like my teammates are only ever rude/sexist to me when I do poorly or lack mechanical skills in the respective rank. As I've gotten better my teammates have also gotten nicer and I've even reached level 5 honor only ever playing support and openly communicating with my team in VC. While i won't excuse the harassment the team gave towards this person I do see a lot of mechanical faults in their gameplay and can understand the frustration from their teammates. Scoreboard syndrome for support overwatch players is a real thing and i feel like it especially affects moira/mercy players (no disrespect) who think that they are being more useful to their team than they actually are simply because of stats.
@ariannaeleanor314
@ariannaeleanor314 Месяц назад
Eh, I don’t think she even dealt with any sexist toxicity anyway. It’s convenient for her to come up with that story after seeing how harsh people were being about the horrible gameplay. I don’t think she realized how bad it was and was surprised by the reactions, so why not make a sob comment claiming sexism, because people will eat that up, feel sorry for her and stop commenting on the crappy gameplay. If what she said were true, there’s no way she wouldn’t have added that to the description when sending it to emongg. It doesn’t even make sense to send this vod in if what she said is true. Why would you want somebody to critique a game where you were being “bullied” and “harassed” to the point where it affected your skill? She’d at least offer that warning beforehand “keep in mind I was dealing with sexist teammates that were being toxic to me in VC for being a girl”. I can’t stand this notion that as women we are immensely bullied and tortured on video games. 15 years of playing games and talking in VC across several games and very few times have I actually come across people like she’s describing. I’m sorry for the rant, it just annoys me haha.
@Miguel_Gabriel_
@Miguel_Gabriel_ 6 месяцев назад
Ok! I know you are a higher rank player, but when you said that he or she has been all over the place and nothing is really happening. The entire composition they had at the start were heroes that are played by people in bronze/silver even in gold, with the sole purpose of doing their own thing, usually with the mentality of; “I’m going to carry this team”. Instead of grouping up or at least be around each other. I have such a hard time with matches like this one. Yet I know I’m not a bad healer. It is basically all I have done since I started playing mmo’s. I usually start my matches asking who is on VC or asking people to get on VC. Doesn’t happen! Had the entire team been more organized, I don’t believe the healer would’ve not realized at any point during the game, that he or she was part of the problem. Also; I would continue to argue that, Widow and Doom should never be played by bronze or silver players.
@soaksoped_feline9888
@soaksoped_feline9888 6 месяцев назад
u say that the comp at the beginning was full of heroes that people pick to do their own thing but what i see is semi dive, a pretty popular team comp right now. in practice it looks like everyone is doing their own thing but every character on the team has the ability to take off angles to spread enemy support resources thin. yea ofc these are lower ranked lobbies so not everyone understands how to play efficiently but at the end of the day if everyone is “doing their own thing” with a team comp like this, it’s pretty efficient either way. yes ofc doom was just flying in there but at a certain point you godda realize u just godda play with ur team rather than run awake when u take a hit.
@BloopTheNoop
@BloopTheNoop 6 месяцев назад
That hanzo is insane
@ohm8334
@ohm8334 6 месяцев назад
I mean there also literally missing with the kiriko heals ☠
@moleedaboi
@moleedaboi 6 месяцев назад
The lack of mechanical skill from this player is depressing. I mean, 11:23 missing heals on a tracer who's 2 feet away from her as Moira. How?!!
@ohm8334
@ohm8334 6 месяцев назад
@@moleedaboi thats also something I dont like about emongs spectating videos, he usually completely ignores the players mechanical skill and only talks about their positioning and timing as if mechanics dont determine your rank. like these games could have easily been turned around with basic aiming skills
@ariannaeleanor314
@ariannaeleanor314 Месяц назад
@@ohm8334 You clearly don’t watch many of his spectating videos, because he talks about mechanical skill all the time. He may not use the term “mechanical skill” every time, but he absolutely does.
@ohm8334
@ohm8334 Месяц назад
@@ariannaeleanor314 ive watched quite a few, usually he doesn't mention it, or he will say some obvious comment like "you could definitely rank up if you worked on your mechanics" but other than that he doesnt address it
@ariannaeleanor314
@ariannaeleanor314 Месяц назад
@@ohm8334 I’ve probably watched all of them, maybe a few have slipped through the cracks, but many of them he talks about all sorts of different areas of gameplay, including mechanical skill. Most of his advice is given in passing as he’s spectating. A lot of them are meant for fun, like the bingo videos. He isn’t going in depth in anything for the most part. Teaching somebody how to better their mechanical skill takes work and dedication that he doesn’t have in a 20 minute spectating video for RU-vid.
@JugsMcNasty
@JugsMcNasty 6 месяцев назад
Imo, team should play around their tank's space. Go in when they go in. Fall back when they fall back. Ride or die. Might as well, if tank dies you're losing the fight anyway😂
@ntech216
@ntech216 5 месяцев назад
The biggest problem I've seen is the Moira gets shot once and they fade all the way back. At some point you have to trust your team will protect you. Or instead of falling all the way back play cover near your team heal up and get back in there
@Cursedmanplays4631
@Cursedmanplays4631 6 месяцев назад
This dude played like a silver Moira. He wasnt paying attention to his teammates critical conditions, barely healed the Doom, and was more damaging than healing. He WAS the problem.
@eyrenuest
@eyrenuest 6 месяцев назад
tbh I am not gonna blame my teammates no matter how shit they play when i am missing 99% of my kunais, I am just as shit as they are
@aaromalvarez2372
@aaromalvarez2372 6 месяцев назад
This is just every moira on my game and then they are like switch off doom its not working
@crisdelgadillo6502
@crisdelgadillo6502 6 месяцев назад
but it wasn't working doom basically kept diving in by himself and getting rolled. Doom was being an idiot
@MisseryMoth
@MisseryMoth 6 месяцев назад
this doom used every cooldown to jump into the fight, then fell over. and kept doing it over and over. my brother in christ he never learned anything, he never even saved his leap to retreat back to a healing pack or team lmao he used all cooldowns to engage then falls over because hes 40000 feet from his team. hes gotta learn the hard way
@JugsMcNasty
@JugsMcNasty 6 месяцев назад
What I like to do is sit back and just look at my team for a minute. Look how they are using their cd's to deal with enemy cd's. Observe their successes and failures to get a feel for their skill level. It shouldn't take long to figure out who the mvp of both teams are. Then its a matter of shutting down the enemy mvp, as well as facilitating your own team's mvp. You'll see the tremendous value is executing this very simple strategy.
@soaksoped_feline9888
@soaksoped_feline9888 6 месяцев назад
nothing makes me more annoyed than a lower rank moira. not cause they’re lower rank but because of the fact that there is the idea that “moira takes no skill” that floats around despite there being a VERY CLEAR level of skill expression when you compare lower ranked moiras to high ranking ones. (same kind of idea with mercy, although in different ways)
@soaksoped_feline9888
@soaksoped_feline9888 6 месяцев назад
yes i know moira has a very hard capped skill expression ceiling at a certain point but sometimes common sense is an insanely valuable way to express skill when playing these “no skill” heroes. e.g orb placement, fade jumping, healing/damage priority, proper heal/damage balance, resource management, and other things that come with playing support like ult tracking.
@okwardmexican3800
@okwardmexican3800 6 месяцев назад
No big steppa Emongg, I am sad 😭
@anershak
@anershak 6 месяцев назад
Oh god this mythic skin is so so so good
@Nothersheys31
@Nothersheys31 6 месяцев назад
I love ur spectating vids hehe ❤
@chrisworthy5471
@chrisworthy5471 6 месяцев назад
They should have just played Ana with how far they were
@looof3719
@looof3719 6 месяцев назад
He is def playing as ana or zen in range, n they can be aggressive too
@kurumi5850
@kurumi5850 6 месяцев назад
Great skin. But same with ana mythic the voice get extremely old the second game u play with the skin. Its good the first game but after it gets old and annoying.
@aidan_cro_vamp
@aidan_cro_vamp 6 месяцев назад
Yeah agree
@michaelpellegrini4756
@michaelpellegrini4756 6 месяцев назад
I’m a Moria main and this is one of the worst Moria’s I’ve ever scene. They are barely tossing orbs!! How do you not toss an orb before you engage!?!? If you’re going to dps, toss a healing orb for your teammates!
@ZarelidT
@ZarelidT 6 месяцев назад
2:30. Why does TP go on CD but you never TP. Happens a lot on kiri for me
@rickygamingproductions
@rickygamingproductions 6 месяцев назад
TP doesn't happen instantly. There's a few milliseconds before you go to your target. Notice how her hands are together but then dies. She didn't have enough time to teleport
@ZarelidT
@ZarelidT 6 месяцев назад
@@rickygamingproductions I guess when I think about other teleports or the invulnerable moves I never question why CDs go off but the move didn’t come out as much as this one. Like never have I experienced this with Moiras fade or tracer rewind etc…
@rickygamingproductions
@rickygamingproductions 6 месяцев назад
@@ZarelidT that's probably because those abilities are near instant. But Kiriko's Teleport has a very small window before she teleports. She was taking too much damage so she died before she could teleport. So she did use the ability, but just could not finish teleporting
@ZarelidT
@ZarelidT 6 месяцев назад
@@rickygamingproductions it’s the one vanish in the game that has a cast time lol
@sethescope
@sethescope 6 месяцев назад
​@@ZarelidT very few abilities are actually instant, including ones that give invulnerability. given how powerful swift step is (you can teleport through fucking walls lmao), a noticeable cast time makes sense to me lol
@davidsalinas2918
@davidsalinas2918 6 месяцев назад
Use it here, there you go, what happened there was you were to late lol
@g_vost
@g_vost 6 месяцев назад
imagine being a boosted moira but still being gold
@patrickmcdaniel5756
@patrickmcdaniel5756 6 месяцев назад
Ahhh the typical no one is doing well or playing good but they all "think" they are good enough to blame someone else for the loss. Losses happen, sometimes they are no ones fault but a team effort. Even when someone is hurting the team, adapting and playing with it can mitigate the weak links and make the stronger links even better. My only piece of advise for this player is understand what your team is doing. Everything for the first 11+ minutes was so reactionary. I will heal my 5 health teammate, disengaged and being chased whos probably already dead vs that person is about to engage, heal orb is already out to keep their health up as they are taking damage enabling them to stay agro longer and enabling you to dps to secure low hp targets.
@crisdelgadillo6502
@crisdelgadillo6502 6 месяцев назад
The person who sent it is in the comments. She said that the doom and Hanzo were cursing each other in the chat. She went to VC to tell the Doom to knock it off the doom and dps started bashing her for being a woman playing and blamed her for everything going wrong. So that's why they were defensive when they sent it in. Tbh the doom seemed to be the team's biggest problem diving in alone being nowhere near the rest of the team. He's dive in get rolled and then they were down a tank. He was dying almost every 30 seconds and barely got any kills
@patrickmcdaniel5756
@patrickmcdaniel5756 6 месяцев назад
@@crisdelgadillo6502 I kind of guessed by the opening statement the submitter wasn't the one blaming others but in response to being blamed. Kind of like no one says "its just qp" in a vacuum. Either way they are all wrong because it was a team effort, but on the self accountable side this player could have done alot different from hero pick, to play style to either better enable the doom, or more likely in this case still turn the teamfights by enabling the others and them to make up for being down doom every fight. It does amaze me how quickly the playerbase of this game makes their own team the enemy. And props to this person for playing peacemaker, or at least trying to.
@TraumaQueen65
@TraumaQueen65 6 месяцев назад
There's too many supports these days who are more concerned about their K/D than they are keeping the team alive
@felixbelanger2659
@felixbelanger2659 6 месяцев назад
That's my problem with Kiriko in S9 though... Unless your teammates are using cover and your other healer has good burst heal, she pretty much turns into a heal-bot :(
@ashketchup247
@ashketchup247 6 месяцев назад
Ngl this is the most helpful emongg video I've seen
@KicsiNao
@KicsiNao 6 месяцев назад
Is it only me who finds it annoying that during the whole review the sender keeps crying in chat about toxic VC? Turn it off, you play in gold not T500, if they are calling you names take 5 secs to turn it off and focus on your game. Failing to do that doesn't give you a free pass when you play this bad, half the time you heal the air after someone died... As a wise man would say: you have the reaction time of an acorn.
@cookiedoodle5582
@cookiedoodle5582 6 месяцев назад
This person is really bad at aiming their heals. This is a tough game, though. Feels like it fell apart because no one grouped up and everyone was playing too fast.
@vitszu8393
@vitszu8393 6 месяцев назад
Honestly, the player backs up too much. As a Moira, I would target hanzo if I know I can. Otherwise, go for the support. Bad fades also led to wasted engagements. Could've been dueling with doomfist and not worry about being left out since I know I have low cooldown. Orbs are also being wasted. Lots of opportunity to bounce or walk with it to heal while dueling. Instead, it's being thrown straight with it being used only about 15% of the duration I'd say
@blackblitz2011
@blackblitz2011 6 месяцев назад
Feel like your lying by not telling them there playing bad. With kirko they got pure tunnel vision, ignoring the tank who's dying just to dps. Positioning is was pretty bad aswell, they need to work on. There awareness and learning how to heal before they start trying to dps. Now with moria it's the opposite. How they was playing kirko is how they should've played moria. Stop running away after you take 1 damage, save your fade for when you need it. If you see a hanzo on his own and no diva throw that damage or then fade and secure the kill, there's no need to be running. Plus you keep healing the enemy team at times which just shows that you're not really paying attention to whats happening. Learn the basics again, master them then mylu can start learning the advance stuff. Also please play with your team more, you are nowhere near the and lucio heals aren't gonna cut it unless there dps is really good.
@ethanphillips889
@ethanphillips889 6 месяцев назад
Here to comment for the algorithm lol
@danielbrandstetter8713
@danielbrandstetter8713 6 месяцев назад
dude always wants to suck the tank when she's at full. like sure, I get that you can damage through DM, but you really think Moira suck is going to kill a full health diva? How about killing the enemy hanzo or kiri or something?
@sanguine_sujeethpv9132
@sanguine_sujeethpv9132 6 месяцев назад
noice
@DerUli-zg8uh
@DerUli-zg8uh 6 месяцев назад
wtf this is one of his best games of a gold player??????????????? biggest misstakes that i see after 2 min not useing the tp not aiming when he wanna heal someone and dpsing in wrong moments. for me this looks disgusting
@ravijotsingh7831
@ravijotsingh7831 6 месяцев назад
Really a shotty healer. Starts to heal others when they die. Heal and damage is just off...
@thekidd6422
@thekidd6422 6 месяцев назад
Doom wasn’t doing good neither was the Moira
@FenekkuKitsune
@FenekkuKitsune 6 месяцев назад
I remember a game some asshat tried to tell me my Moira positioning was terrible. I feel vindicated knowing I wasn’t wrong, emongg saying stay with the core, heh. Also, as a Moira player, his orb usage could use some work. Fade too…
@ChefRengar
@ChefRengar 6 месяцев назад
@ChadHunt-k9u
@ChadHunt-k9u 6 месяцев назад
This is looks like too much dps and you dont seem to know moiras healing range and you are just wasting go into practice range with a friend and have them spray and watch its actually much shorter than a lot of people realize and like video said you arent pushing with your team you seem like all you are doing is trying to stay alive instead of actually supporting the team
@jason23189
@jason23189 6 месяцев назад
Entirely the miora/kirikos fault
@only.korê
@only.korê 6 месяцев назад
I LIKEWW CHEEESEEE
@xd_Corruption
@xd_Corruption 6 месяцев назад
I don't understand the matchmaking and ranking system in this game. I can confidently say I play 150x better than this kiriko but I'm also in gold??? It might honestly just be a teammate difference but who knows.
@minituberplayz1644
@minituberplayz1644 6 месяцев назад
I hard disagree bro. Watching you or someone else play makes you notice all the mistakes. You need to think on the spot ingame and you dont have time to reflect. You make mistakes all the time but its hard to notice while playing.
@Marco-qo7ct
@Marco-qo7ct 6 месяцев назад
Typical low elo Moira gameplay. This character carries players who are bad and her kit promotes bad habits and gameplay imo. This Moira fades away from her team instantly after taking like 1 hp of damage lol. At least with life weaver and mercy you need good game sense and positioning in order to properly heal.
@seansmyth2899
@seansmyth2899 6 месяцев назад
All I’ve seen lately is enemy Moria in my back line forcing me to swap brig and hit her with my purse. Easy clap get gud.
@cjerp
@cjerp 6 месяцев назад
moira flanking the backline in S9 is just throwing, sure you could get lucky with a kill but other heros do that better. doing damage with your team while also healing them get's way more value
@amber-xh4gv
@amber-xh4gv 6 месяцев назад
this persons just allergic to healing their team unless its overtime, like how they played on overtime should have been their playstyle all game. who did they think was gonna heal their team? lucio???
@Senor_Fast
@Senor_Fast 6 месяцев назад
No offense to the player themselves, but I forgot how boring moria gameplay is. It's not engaging at all to play, never mind to watch. It's the same way with lw although I'd say it's worse with him.
@sethescope
@sethescope 6 месяцев назад
thanks for sharing your personal opinion. hopefully you're able to understand that it's an opinion, not an objective statement.
@Senor_Fast
@Senor_Fast 6 месяцев назад
@@sethescope I think it's heavily implied that this is my opinion. Also I never said that this is objective in any way so I don't know how you got to that conclusion.
@sethescope
@sethescope 6 месяцев назад
@@Senor_Fast just because you think it's heavily implied doesn't mean it actually is. "I forgot how boring Moira gameplay is" is not the same statement as "I forgot how boring Moira gameplay is to me." those two sentences don't mean the same thing. tacking on a "no offense" doesn't change that. I bring it up because people are constantly toxic as hell just based on someone's hero choice. if you dont say what you actually mean, you end up just adding to that noise, and someone could easily and justifiably assume you're being toxic.
@Senor_Fast
@Senor_Fast 6 месяцев назад
@@sethescope if you're going into a comment section then you should take everything as an opinion not factual. I also said no offense to the player themselves because I wasn't talking about them specifically. Nowadays people are going to assume that everything is toxic regardless if it is or not, even if you explain yourself.
@walker1686
@walker1686 6 месяцев назад
@@sethescopestop crying holy
@moody4tech635
@moody4tech635 6 месяцев назад
If you like to battle more than healing. You should be playing with illari so you can put the damn pylon down and heal some people, then you can fight. If that's how you roll
@akatsukimoontb
@akatsukimoontb 6 месяцев назад
I feel like I looking at 5 people who have either been told, or at least heard, the ever common "the only constant in your games is you, just ignore your team and focus on your own gameplay." As well meaning as that may be, and as much as it may work for people who understand to play as a team in a team-based game, it only causes the opposite effect and causes people to throw games all the time in the metal ranks. They hear that, hear "ignore your teammates and focus on yourself" and that's how you get doomfists or lucios just inting in 1v5, focusing on their gameplay and ignoring their teams entirely. Thank you emong for not saying that, and actually advising people to play as a team!
@ralphforbes5807
@ralphforbes5807 6 месяцев назад
People who give that tip, emonng has said it before, it's not anyone's responsibility to make you not play stupid in a team based game the majority of the players who do those things aren't doing it because of those words of advice, they're doing it because they don't understand even the basic concept of how this game works, majority of metal ranks don't actually watch these videos ironically, some do, but the vast majority do not
@BelphegorXVI
@BelphegorXVI 6 месяцев назад
You misunderstand the advice though. "Focusing on your own gameplay" means trying to play your character as correctly as you can, within the context of the team game Overwatch, accounting for your own mistakes, instead of blaming other people for theirs, that's pointless. As support, letting people die when you could have saved them is a mistake YOU can recognize on YOUR gameplay and try to correct, and it's still part of team play and thus part of "playing the game correctly".
@akatsukimoontb
@akatsukimoontb 6 месяцев назад
@@BelphegorXVI you misundertand my comment. I never said thats what these players are being told. I said that's how these players are interpreting it. I never claimed that "focus on yourself" means "ignore your entire team". I said that those players end up throwing games because 'they' misunderstand it.
@karamei
@karamei 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for this comment. I do feel I've taken that expression the wrong way to some extent, so what you wrote made a lot of sense to me and was probably something I needed to hear.
@RegBinary
@RegBinary 6 месяцев назад
The phrase "the only constant in your games is you" is used against someone complaining about their teammates as the reason why they couldn't rank up, not like how you said here. I've never seen anyone say not to work with your team. I don't think anyone misunderstood it.
@declanmadden6058
@declanmadden6058 6 месяцев назад
She saw her teammates rushing in erratically and dying and was trying not to do that, but the issue is that trying not to do something isn’t a strategy, so she ended up contributing basically nothing other than sitting back and healing after the fact when it wasn’t as important
@shiinaaaaaaa
@shiinaaaaaaa 6 месяцев назад
I get team mates like this and i dont even bother to win tbh i just swap heroes i dont use and practice the hero in comp if we win ok great but sometimes there are just unwinnable games 💁‍♀️
@araven2293
@araven2293 6 месяцев назад
Isn't comp supposed to be a "no matter what happen, do anything, adjust anything to try win the game" kind of thing? Atleast it make a progress or comeback? Even in this vid, their team making a progress after adjusting their playstyle.. no matter u think ur team is shitty, i hope u know there is maybe one of ur team that are solo really still trying to win the game.. if its end up win, maybe the hero u currently play or try are works well with the team or againts the enemy. If u give up easily, go QP.. even QP now really tried to win. Unless u met with a literally bot in comp that really just stand still in spawn room or leaver
@eyrenuest
@eyrenuest 6 месяцев назад
You mean having a kiriko like this who misses 100% of her kunais?
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