Where Does Kai Havertz Fit at Chelsea?

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Kai Havertz joined Chelsea in the summer as one of the most exciting young players in Europe. But, he's yet to really find his feet at the club. Alex Stewart, Dom Fifield & Seb Stafford-Bloor discuss his current tactical usage and where he might be applied within the team in the future.
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@pike101000 3 года назад

Havertz was also a slow starter every season at Leverkusen. Both him and Timo have spoken about how fast and physical the PL is compared to Bundesliga. In time Havertz will be great.

@mrbenz6227 3 года назад

Yes but the Bundesliga is much more tactical

@dektran4843 3 года назад

kai havertz has a potential of real madrid and early arsenal mesut ozil

@paulbenjamin6597 3 года назад

@@mrbenz6227 Not really actually

@denimkh9932 3 года назад

@@paulbenjamin6597 yeah it is

@phoenix-king779 3 года назад

@@mrbenz6227 your high

@muktherock 3 года назад

A brief history of Michael Ballack please! Man was underrated af in the dark ages of German Football.

@needfoolthings 3 года назад

That is so true. He was head and shoulders above everyone except Kahn and Lehmann and yet our press went only after him after a bad match. Same at Bayern. Plus, after thecworkd cup 2010, we all but just forgot about him because Khediracand Schweinsteigers did so well

@muktherock 3 года назад

@@needfoolthings I can say they missed Ballack against Spain in WC 10. The thing about him was not only is he gifted as a player, mentally he was superior. He would get his hands dirty to win games. True Leader. Unlike the players we have now, who got humbled last week against Spain. Not once would Ballack walk or stand quiet in games.

@SlippyG19 3 года назад

Does making the 2002 WC Final qualify as those dark ages? Or the 2006 WC semis? Or 2010 WC semis? Or 2014 WC Champs? Or 2008 Euro finals??? Or 2012 Euros semis??? Where these dark ages at?

@needfoolthings 3 года назад

@@SlippyG19 One of the dark ages of German football was 1997 through 2005. FIFA 2002 was an outlier during a few years where football was not so great worldwide, putting those performances in context. It was a shit tournament.

@thelunaprime1886 3 года назад

The way he just glides around the pitch. He is a top talent. He's going to do great things for Chelsea 🔵🔵🔵

@Dreampie13 3 года назад

Its like his feet dont even touch the ground

@oscr6771 3 года назад

@@oliverswales5604 You take that back right now

@benak5278 3 года назад

Also his Slick and Silky touches+movements, link up play, track backs, and aerial duels success rate are impressive. But people will ignore and call him overrated cuz he played for chelsea

@datboiii1603 3 года назад

@@oliverswales5604 haha id rather go to Arsenal than that shitty club

@jasonbourne8349 3 года назад

BlueQuality *SZN* exactly ! He was good in the 433 with mount & kante ppl acc don’t understand football

@kelvintawiah 3 года назад

Wow, these guys are so knowledgeable they need a show on tv. Definitely better analysis 🧐 than most fb shows

@absolutespoon2074 3 года назад

Yeah these guys actually know exactly what they’re talking about

@ropibo 3 года назад

TV is finished. I guess you're on tv when you're not good enough now.

@joshbrown2217 3 года назад

They actually talk about this on one of the tifo podcasts and it is just because on tv, they're aimed at the general football audience as a whole and trying to keep people engaged, while tifo's and the athletics videos are more for a more in-depth view and a more tactical based view on teams and games.

@ropibo 3 года назад

@@joshbrown2217 ok but why TV still exists ?

@joshbrown2217 3 года назад

@@ropibo Because it's the biggest form of sports broadcasting in close to the past century, so any sort of shift off this type of broadcasting will take years to put into place. Plus most people are happy to pay the subscription for tv packages, so until people decide they had enough of having to pay for subscriptions to 3 different packages, there is no incentive for football to move off tv.

@tshepomabalane5767 3 года назад

TIFO FOOTBALL IS ACTUALLY BETTER THAN SOME OTHER FOOTBALL CHANNELS

@wack... 3 года назад

this is a nothing statement....

@kiran75424 3 года назад

TIFO and DW Kick off

@PartyIka 3 года назад

I mean... If it wasn't, it would by definition be the worst football channel on YT, so thanks for that statement :D

@bryanbunga1311 3 года назад

Always has been bro

@dinohlabisa2349 3 года назад

Awu Satafrika🙄so slow

@aalm3982 3 года назад

Havertz has been good so far. Yeah he isn't in his best but the guy is only 21 so don't put unnecessary pressure. He hasn't been even bad to be worried about.

@wack... 3 года назад

he's been shit. Average at best

@kwakuadu-yeboah6326 3 года назад

Mount has been shit too, oh well, harvetz is still better than mount

@AbsoleteAim 3 года назад

@@wack... You clearly don't watch the games then.

@emmanuel8487 3 года назад

Been mainly shit and average mate. Saka is 18 and delivering the goods

@NoPerspective4231 3 года назад

@@emmanuel8487 Saka has been really mature for his age, but he isn't half the player Havertz is

@joshbrown2217 3 года назад

I always think people get the Ballack and Lampard comparisons mixed around because of nationality. From what I've seen, Havertz is a lot more similar to Lampard in terms of pure goal-scoring ability than Mount and I feel Mount just has that more energetic and work effort that Ballack had (at least similar to the dynamic Lampard and Ballack had at their time together at Chelsea). Mount is great, but he doesn't seem to have that pure scoring instinct that both Lampard and Havertz has. I think that also means that Mount is a lot better as a box to box midfielder and at leading the press, he will still get goals, just not at the same rate as Lampard/Havertz. I think if we look at it that way, it's a lot easier to see how Havertz will influence our play and how he will start to shine more when we find ourselves in situations where we need a goal. I also think Lampard has realised this as Mount has stopped starting on the wing and has also started to be played further back on the pitch and not progressing past the wingers/strikers as much as he used to be.

@luchin_paul 3 года назад

100% agree with this bro 🔥🔥

@eddyededwin 3 года назад

havertz is more lke thomas muller, jack of all trades type of player who has a great sight for goal, mount is just... aite

@R3in_Ch 3 года назад

@@eddyededwin mount is not an attacking minded more of a cm if you asked me. his work rate is really good and if he keeps deployed at cm he can be as good as kovacic

@omarBigOrashid18 3 года назад

Thing is, people are judging him based on G/A, but actually he was doing well before the COVID test. If you actually watch Chelsea games, you’ll know he’s reliable in narrow spaces, uses his energy well to track back and offers threats in the final third.

@samirashur2153 3 года назад

yes bro he has been really good and he is adapting way faster than i thought he would problem is many people just judge him and they havent watched a single minute of chelsea and say he is overrated or "average at best" as most keep saying the end product will come hopefully once he gels with the core of the group

@conradtangiri3861 3 года назад

But his G/A is quite good

@benak5278 3 года назад

Spot on mate, and Secondly, If you noticed, When he was in Germany, he always got attention towards the end of the season, and here is a amazing stats Stats before turning 21: messi: havertz: ronaldo: 110 games 143 games 153 games 42 goals 43 goals 27 goals 27 assists 30 assists 30 assists

@ocobsmax3695 3 года назад

You deserve a medal

@samhoney1020 3 года назад

Couldn't agree more, no idea why they're giving the impression he's struggling. He's only played one game in the 433 and he was exceptional

@kabs1710 3 года назад

I think he has done okay so far and he is only going to get better.

@imArcheRR 3 года назад

The amount they paid for him he can't just be okay but if he gets better then I'll take that back

@boopdeeb9444 3 года назад

@@imArcheRR they paid that much for him partly due to his age being 21 and already as talented as he is. He is still 7 years until his peak, Chelsea are aware it will take time for him to get going. The fans just needs to be patient and support him.

@abhisinhaa22 3 года назад

@@imArcheRR common, PL is not easy as Bundesliga, he came from Farmer league to One of the biggest league, let him adjust then you'll see magic

@kabs1710 3 года назад

@@imArcheRR Fair enough

@imArcheRR 3 года назад

@@abhisinhaa22 I know I'm just saying if your gonna break your transfer record he can't be ok. Don't even think that's that hot a take

@Q9Teen 3 года назад

The dynamics of Chelsea squad is scary Havertz: can play as 6, 8, 10, false nine, might also as right winger Werner: 9, left winger Pulisic: left & right winger Ziyech: right winger, might also as 10 Mount: I feel like Lampard is trying to play him anywhere (8, 10, left winger) CHO: Right & left winger Kovacic: 6 & 8

@LJMahomes 3 года назад

Tbh you kinda need that, especially in times like these. Bayerns defensive variability was a huge factor in them winning the CL this year

@chrisfraser5088 3 года назад

Yeah, if Lamps can get his team gelling and playing consistently, they’re going to be terrifying in the years to come. I played as a CB for years, and there’s no way I want to see any combination of Abraham, Ziyech, Havertz, Werner, Mount and Pulisic running at me, haha

@makskauzny3794 3 года назад

Also kante 6/8, james right back/right whingback/he even played as a midfielder, azpiliqueta right back, left back, right centre back in a back 3

@Techwithedwin 3 года назад

Why your don't get how great mount is because we did not pay 50million for him. This kid is good.

@makskauzny3794 3 года назад

@@benardboateng1501 no, lol, he doesn't. He's an offensive 8, but he has nothing to do with being a 10

@bigt1429 3 года назад

A refreshingly informed and detailed conversation - much better than anything you can find on TV. I'll definitely be subscribing and coming back to watch more.

@Ali-gi3kk 3 года назад

Its true. It's not a stretch to say that a majority of TV pundits are happy to rely almost 100% on stock phrases and clichés as well as being unwilling to criticise fellow professionals. Its lazy and safe and I assume its excellent money. There's also a huge lack of respect for people who have "never played the game, Jeff".

@RL- 3 года назад

Tough to say because at Leverkusen he spent his time split 50/50 between central attacking midfielder and right forward in his last two seasons, depending on which of their many formations were used. He's not a typical 8 or a typical 10 so I feel he's best described as a roamer who should be given free rein. I'd describe him as an eight and a half LoL He's not particularly physical or great at defending so the 4231 protects him better. If Ziyech isn't able to play for whatever reason then he'd suit playing as a right forward in a 3421 as he often did in the Bundesliga, with Abraham central to offer a target and Werner left playing the other half space while the left most player overlaps, and the same for Havertz with James on the right. He could also play in a 442/4222 as the right forward and drop in, as he would cut on to his preferred left foot when higher up the pitch or otherwise link with midfielders by dropping and give defences something to think about while Werner plays the more typical striker role in the partnership on the left. It was probably always going to be Havertz finding it toughest to adapt. Not only is he the youngest of those signings (Mbuyamba aside) and he has the most price tag pressure, but the play revolved around him at Leverkusen. It may take some time for Chelsea to figure out how to best enable his strengths as you mentioned at 4:03. It'll probably take a bit of time for the lads to sync their movements and fluidity to unlock this potential. With Ziyech's passing and then the directness and "terror factor" of Werner and Pulisic (and Hudson-Odoi), Havertz should get plenty of opportunities to do his drifting and exploiting before finishing moves.

@jackgrealish6914 3 года назад

@lucid_ 3 года назад

@@jackgrealish6914 didn’t have to do him dirty like dat 😂

@kunzy_wpr 3 года назад

You're spot on.

@ahnafdrubo9727 3 года назад

So basically another Mueller? You didn't have to type so much to say that

@elambharrathie 3 года назад

Well if look at Kai's career till now, he's been at Leverkusen since he was 11, so when he choose to leave his comfort zone for a challenge in Premier League is definitely a big step for him, so he had to cope more than just an adaptation process and that's definitely not easy for anyone

@archiehickox6518 3 года назад

100%! New country, new language, new environment, new teammates, new league.....and the kid is 21!!! Yes!

@anthonyonyedika5110 3 года назад

If Timo plays as a 9, he'll drift left creating space at the center for Havertz as a 8 or Pulisic who is direct, with Ziyech providing assists..

@chunkalunkin2000 3 года назад

I feel like Havertz is a victim of his amazing ability. Hopefully he's not hindered with the "Where's his best position?" question like Walcott and Pogba and Ox etc.

@shambhav9534 3 года назад

@Chad Tyrone No, but his Barkley type abilities, he can't do it as a no 10, I think a no 8 with complete freedom is best for him.

@wack... 3 года назад

arsenal fan alert....

@shambhav9534 3 года назад

@@oliverswales5604 Why? He doesn't even have a no. 10 type creativity, he has but not much.

@shambhav9534 3 года назад

@@oliverswales5604 I am not saying him to play from the deep but be able to get back and fetch the ball.

@aditiasarathi958 3 года назад

@@oliverswales5604 pretty he can be an 8 with mount and kante and if u think he's not great defensively pls watch all our matches again.. you are in for a surprise

@temi8192 3 года назад

It's "where doesn't he fit at chelsea" he can play almost everywhere!

@mayureshvaidya387 3 года назад

Try him at the back with Zouma😍

@temi8192 3 года назад

@@mayureshvaidya387 yeah they'd both head away every ball easily😍

@doomdoktor 3 года назад

He can disappear everywhere

@DayzAhat 3 года назад

@@doomdoktor cry more

@Jdh120396 3 года назад

He can play almost everywhere but he clearly hasn’t been productive everywhere

@justlooking1087 3 года назад

When you look at the stats, he hasn't started very well. However, he has been really good in the majority of games we've played so far. As a Chelsea fan I'm happy with his start but I do know there is a lot more to come from him, which is exciting to me.

@f1sker_karma 3 года назад

I disagree that Alonso was a failure at Chelsea.

@rogerlima4001 3 года назад

I could see Alonso scoring goals in a back three with Ziyech whipping crosses to him from the left...

@samirashur2153 3 года назад

alonso was good if you watched highlights but if you watched the games full 90 mins youd see how many times opposing wingers will simply and easily run right past him he has no positional sense in defense if he doesnt cross first time the offense breaks when he decides to take a touch because he has no dribbling ability chilwell is probably our best signing just because of how much better he is than our previous options at left back

@f1sker_karma 3 года назад

Samir Ashur a player can exist beyond his current years performances. Under Conte he was winning us prems and was essential for success. His freekicks were class and he played a system well.

@samirashur2153 3 года назад

@@f1sker_karma under conte he played lwb with 3 centre backs and two def mids in kante and matic so his positioning in def didnt have to be great and in one v one defense against opposing wingers he would still lose but theyll be a centre back cleaning it up his set pieces are really good and he can score but only place he has is as a lwb and even conte in his second ssn wanted a better lwb thats why he was linked with alex sandro

@kunzy_wpr 3 года назад

Per his price tag, he was not.

@truespartan1000 3 года назад

Kai is more than just a CAM. I think that duo of him and Mason will become one of the best in the world. They complement each other very well imo.

@NA597 3 года назад

Kai Havertz can form chemistry with Mason Mount, similar to how he worked very well with Julian Brandt

@m.abubakr.raza6118 3 года назад

That partnership in the midifield with kante is 🔥

@parthpiyushprasad709 3 года назад

Mount ain't too good, say Kovacic

@gamertamizhan456 3 года назад

Havertz and Abraham 🔥

@jessepinkman5409 3 года назад

@@parthpiyushprasad709 Mount has higher potential and fits the system better, so I think long term, Havertz-Mount is a relationship that should be developed.

@shodiposamuel6305 3 года назад

Mount is not as dynamic and creative as Brandt Havertz was responsible for diagonal runs and goals wen he was playing with brandt

@Vegito_is_king 3 года назад

Man i find it hard to choose Chelseas starting 11, I mean they have so many options. They can play a 4231 with Kante and Kovacic as the double pivot and havertz as a 10 with Pulisic and Ziyech as the wide men, and Mount can play in the no 10 position as well. The other option is to play 433 with Kante in his usual holding midfielder role and playing both Havertz and Mount or Kovacic in midfield.

@Mad_Intalect 3 года назад

Honestly, Pulisic, Ziyech and Havertz should be the starting attacking mids ahead of Mount. They're all better players.

@shambhav9534 3 года назад

A 4-2-3-1 is the best.

@aalm3982 3 года назад

By watching this and last season mount isn't number 10 He plays far better in 8 role

@Theshabadaman 3 года назад

@@Mad_Intalect Pulisic has glass bones, there's no way a sensible manager is going to rely on someone so injury prone.

@cvetomirgeorgiev9106 3 года назад

4-3-3 with Werner Pulisic Ziyech Mount Havertz Kanté Chilwell Zouma Silva James Mendy

@heintay1312 3 года назад

I don't think Ziyech will be a problem for Harvertz. In the last game they play, I saw there were constant rotation between Ziyech and Havertz. I think they will complement each other on distribution part. Frank now found the answer that Ziyech is the key. So players like Harvertz Pulisic Werner will always be looking to go inside the box. Plus both james and chillwell are both good distributors too. But I agree that Lampard is keen on making Kai the next Ballack.

@sneakyone9865 3 года назад

Don’t overcomplicate it. In a 443, He plays in the right half space and can easily link up with Reece James and Ziyech on the right while mount links up with chillwell and Werner/pulisic on the left with a degree of freedom for mount and havertz

@sethaye3034 3 года назад

433?

@ramo650 3 года назад

You uncomplicated it lol....whats a 443

@absolutespoon2074 3 года назад

They were getting at the fact Havertz and Ziyech operate in the same half-space which might congest the area. That’s not over complicating it. It’s just facts

@YosepRA 3 года назад

Havertz and Ziyech are the same type of player. As an 8, Havertz will work well with classic and direct winger on the right like Pulisic. But Ziyech tends to cut inside the box instead of making runs in-behind to cross, hence overcrowding the half-spaces. Chelsea is _damn_ fluid in positioning of their players. Pulisic, Hudson-Odoi, Werner, Havertz, Ziyech, Mount loves freedom to move around the pitch. Finding the balance in this massive fluidity will be the defining point of Chelsea's shape.

@nevinjoyce3850 3 года назад

Coming in to the season, we knew he would take the longest to adjust to the team out of all the signings, since all the other players are basically in their prime, or massively experienced. That being said, even though his first game wasn’t that great, he was been pretty great otherwise. I know the goals and assists haven’t really been stacking up, but watching him play, he truly has a great impact on the pitch, and the underlying statistics support this. I think he can be like our Joao Felix, as in, once he fits in and adjusts to the team and the league, he will explode.

@_.13_ 3 года назад

Considering he came in late, to a new league, wasn't fit and tested positive I think he is doing good.

@811chelseafc 3 года назад

I think this is pretty harsh on Havertz. I think he’s been a good 6-7/10 so far. He adds a lot of speed to our build up, he’s contributed to our press far more than he gets credit for, and he’s making a good number of chances that aren’t being converted. He’s making a lot of errors that he needs to cut out and his end product isn’t where it should be but other than that he’s been very good.

@chishmilongo 3 года назад

Kai is a shadow striker, a raumdeuter(sp) a position that's becoming extremely difficult to excel in. Dele Alli, Griezmann and Van de Beek are examples of how difficult it has become for such players to excel. Lampard was just like that as a player so we just have to hope that he figures it out. £85M is a lot of money

@benak5278 3 года назад

stats before turning 21: messi: havertz: ronaldo: 110 games 143 games 153 games 42 goals 43 goals 27 goals 27 assists 30 assists 30 assists

@Robbosso 3 года назад

Please can we reserve judgement till Havertz has played a little more than 7 league games? Is that too much to ask? Let's not forget he already has 4 goals and 3 assists in 10 appearances, and that considered poor by his standards.

@Jdh120396 3 года назад

3 of them against barnsley...

@Robbosso 3 года назад

@@Jdh120396 and? How many Premier League players do you know with hattricks against Championship teams let alone at 21 playing their first few games in a new team?

@Jdh120396 3 года назад

@@Robbosso because that performance against barnsley was an anomaly compared to his performances in the league so far

@Robbosso 3 года назад

@@Jdh120396 It's not, He's a midfielder at 21 in a new team and league and has only played 7 games with a goal and 2 assists. 2 goals and 1 assist for Germany this season as well. You are only a jealous troll tbh because he's not your talent. If you weren't you wouldn't be bothered. I don't care who plays for your club and what they've done. Hope this helps

@Jdh120396 3 года назад

@@Robbosso I’m literally a Chelsea fan and he has 1 goal and 1 assist in 7 and I’m not a troll I’m just thoroughly impressed by what kai has done so far in a Chelsea shirt. He’s been fine but I think it’s obvious that Frank and the club didn’t have a clear plan of how he wanted to use kai when they bought him...

@porassrivastava8242 3 года назад

Lampard did both in his playing days 100+ assists and 150+ goals in the prem

@tommagennis 3 года назад

Frank Lampard actually begins every phone call with "Hello, I'm Frank Lampard, I've won the Champion's League"

@chrisfraser5088 3 года назад

Generally speaking, the Bundesliga is more fast paced and slightly more tactical than the PL, but the PL is much more physical than the Bundesliga. So, for a player like Kai, it will definitely take time to adjust. Overall, he’s been good though. Give him a season or two and I think he can be Chelsea’s top player for chances created and assists.

@hamzajehangir1 3 года назад

This is the best analysis I have seen, amazing work by the team. Really good content, Alex is brilliant!

@Blackstari 3 года назад

We actually spent around 230 mil pounds. Chilwell-50 Ziyech-35 Havertz-70 Mendy-22 Werner-50 Sarr-Free Thiago Silva-Free Sorry it just gets on my nerves when people inflate our spending. Marina is the best in the game and she had a masterclass this past window.

@bdlh4285 3 года назад

a 24 minute Tifo video about chelsea. My dream

@MrMusicdot 3 года назад

Despite nationality. Mason mount has more of a similar skill set to Ballack and Havertz is more suited to follow lampards style

@onda_dr_quinn3942 3 года назад

Yes. Mason is actually not that great infront of goal, and plays way better in a deeper role. The way havertz operates in the half spaces and arrives late reminds me so much of Lampard. Literally not a better man on the planet to mentor Kai than frank.

@szymonski1905 3 года назад

As a LCM in a midfield 3 with Kante holding and Mount on the other side Or as a 10 behind Werner.

@jamesmurray5775 3 года назад

Sir Alex always allowed the debut season for a foreign player to settle in the Premier League. Considering their depth, they don't need to put too much pressure on him this season.

@siiir1322 3 года назад

As a german watching the Bundesliga every week: Number 10 role. Thats it. Dont waste the potential of him on the wing. I always hate coaches that put players that are clearly number 10s like coutinho on the wing. Yes havertz would probably be a good right winger, due to him being soo fast (yes guys he is fast, even tho he has less than 90 pace in fifa) But him on the wing would just be wasted potential, you want him to be that generational Talent that he could be, play him as a 10

@anon1534 3 года назад

And finally he has shown his class on a number of occasions. That's why you give players time, he fits perfectly now 👌

@aznmyth8635 3 года назад

i've been watching havertz for more than 2 years now. believe me guys, you guys haven't saw the best of him yet. the way he plays right now is only 1/4 of his capabilities. the kid needs some time to get used to the premier league

@joshberkin5567 3 года назад

Why you Watch him so much

@RainingFlow19 3 года назад

The way Havertz play is so beautiful, I just hope he can intergrate with the chelsea squad.

@Robin007George 3 года назад

Lol

@Noggzz 3 года назад

"Chelsea spent in excess of £300 Milliom pounds..." this isnt factual at all.

@maruf2050 3 года назад

I was angry at first but then I used the caption and it says 200 million 😂😂

@whalebonefields 3 года назад

200 million not 300 milliom u donut

@pabloavila6397 3 года назад

I feel like he has that acceleration but doesn't use it enough. I hear people saying he glides around the pitch like it's a good thing, it feels like he's wasting his pace off the ball at times

@Vibez_K 3 года назад

His best position is an advanced 8 since Lampard is likely to stick with 4-3-3.

@goodies7813 3 года назад

Havertz would suit and fit better upfront in Right Wing, which allows him to cut in, he has got the pace, the height, the technique and he is a clinical finisher too. whilst Ziyech should rather play in midfield as one of the attacking 8's because he isn't as fast as Havertz but has a higher work rate than Havertz at the moment, and he can still make his usual range of passes anywhere from midfield. Havertz cost 72m he has to be played upfront and start scoring goals and assists upfront. Hope we get Dominik Szoboszlai in January. Our attack and midfield options should be 433: LW - Werner/Pulisic. CF - Tammy/Giroud. RW - Havertz/Hudson-Odoi. LM- Isco*/Mount RM - Kovacic/Ziyech. DM - Kante/Gilmour/ Jorginho.

@jonathanforeman6112 3 года назад

Very intelligent analysis overall, but I was disappointed with the early section where you talked about why he hasn't been performing well yet. You guys put it on that he was moved around more at leverkusen and it was a different system, but Chelsea's put him in a comfortable situation with attacking threats all around him to play in behind. He just hasn't performed

@TizerisT. 3 года назад

Good video but Chelsea were in yucky red....urgh

@salexks 3 года назад

Havertz can't handle the pace and physicality of the Prem atm

@veerapetchpetchger5371 3 года назад

I mean he did say he likes to play inside RCM in a 433. Seemed to work well at Burnley

@philipsjr.3849 3 года назад

the notification came in early today I'm happy

@tesfayegezhagne3257 3 года назад

I think the 4-3-3 is the way forward for Chelsea and I think Havertz can play in midfield alongside Kante and Mount. I think he can be like Debruyne. if he is constantly shifting with Ziyech is gonna be much harder to defend against!

@VpKing 3 года назад

People forget this is a long term project

@shivachetanulavi7345 3 года назад

Mason and Kai will dominate PL in the coming years, Hopefully Rice will join chelsea and make a formidable midfield.

@StrictlyStoicism 3 года назад

If we play 4-2-3-1, Havertz needs to fit in behind Werner as a 10. We can also deploy him as 1 of the 2 8’s in a 4-3-3 with Kante in the middle and Mount on the right and Kai and the left. Similar to how Man City had Fernandinho CDM, KDB right and Silva left

@powerllesss2672 3 года назад

It’s quite simple. Play him in a 4-3-3 and as a right number 8 with unlimited freedom and give Mount instructions to be slightly more defensive.

@fuaadjafree5395 3 года назад

I would slightly disagree with their points. One is that "he doesn't have a specific role". The way Chelsea have been playing is the massive interchange of players to breakdown teams. You'll see Abraham on the RW, Pulisic up to, or Havertz there and Werner far LW. I don't see Havertz in this Chelsea team having one role

@absolutespoon2074 3 года назад

It’s more the fact you can’t really develop a generational talent in a general sense. You need to kind of taper their ability to a certain role. There were only a handful of players that could do almost everything. Being interchangeable with all the other attackers doesn’t mean he can’t have a specific role. Pulisic (dribbler) Werner (scorer) Ziyech (creator) Tammy (scorer) Havertz (?)

@blackout995 3 года назад

Always bothers me how we bring extremely young guys out to the PL and then are shocked and angry when they turn out to have growing pains? Even Ronaldo had a hard time at first. Let the man play! He will be excellent, there is no doubt. The PL is fast and physical, it takes conditioning.

@luke_will_taylor 3 года назад

Havertz his fast but utilizes his pace sparingly unlike Werner and Pulisic

@theovermansailor5519 3 года назад

Not if he plays at the right wing

@moistpeanut5986 3 года назад

Play Ancelotti’s christmas tree and have Werner as the 9 with Ziyech and Havertz behind him. Kova, jorginho and Kante as the midfield 3. Jorginho is perfect for Pirlo role.

@akhonankasela1659 3 года назад

Jorginho has no place in that team unless Chelsea is winning and wants to circulate and keep the ball, but for attack and EPL pace, Jorginho needs to be dropped.

@Seanopp7 3 года назад

@@akhonankasela1659 💯. When we play with Jorginho, it’s like we play with 10 men.

@motshwari 3 года назад

Good analysis but you guys missed a few tactical points in Lampard’s system. Timo isn’t a tall CF so, Havertz is going to drift into the CF position to make a 2 with Werner, who’ll slightly be to the left., Ziyech and Pulisic drift inside, while the fullbacks provide the width.

@delvinj7375 3 года назад

Did they think prime KDB was arriving in the first 2 months of the season??😂

@sco9616 Год назад

This is awesome.. as I am watching in 2023 as Arsenal; are about to sign the "chelsea reject" and arteta and Edu are being "conelaying idiots" yet again. In spite of the wisdom of fans with zero football knowledge, it seems that Arteta and Edu are on to something. As there couldnt POSSIBLY be any Arsenal bias in this 2 yr old Chelsea related video, its amazing how many of the things u say make him sound the PERFECT fit for Arsenal. He can play in a multitude of positions that we lacked depth last season as our players tired (while Citys rested players KDB and Grealish flourished).. it is his play between the lines that I think Arteta will se as something he can use more effectively than Chelsea did and exploit. You guys then go on to talk about the perfect player he needs to be paired with and you mention RICE, who Arsenal are also on the verge of signing. I had been thinking the price Arsenal are supposedly paying (50m plus 15m addons) is a bit much given how it hasnt gone great for Haverts so far in England, but I already had the idea he will be a good signing for Arsenl in spite of the price. Im now more convinced that it will be a good signing and maybe the cost is more fair!

@Questioneverything2050 Месяц назад

🤡

@katlegoditlhogo7675 3 года назад

Simple Lampard has favored the City system , two attacking 8s in the half spaces but I agree with the theory of congesting the half space isn't good but you should also factor we switch play alot now so the team cant get congested a bit like liverpool do with the full backs out wide , especially considering our love for switching play now it creates 1v1 which we have players for

@12meeth34 3 года назад

"Havertz can do everything more capably than most players can do one thing." Preach!

@dmavs13 3 года назад

Did anyone except Dom here watch the games against Krasnador and Burnley? Havertz was brilliant in the 8 showing a knack for winning the ball back, carrying the ball forward, great interplay with Ziyech before getting fouled and so much more. It's not all about goals and assists in a side that has so much firepower - but across all comps his numbers are decent. He'll get better given time in any role rather than shaking up everything thats working to boost his fantasy points.

@arjunchoudhary5047 3 года назад

Chelsea can play 2 formations : 4-2-3-1 - Mendy, Chilly, Thiago, Zouma, James, Kova, Jor, Pulisic, Havertz ,Ziyech and Werner 4-3-3 - Mendy, Chilly, Thiago, Zouma, James, Kante, Mount,Havertz, Pulisic, Werner, Ziyechhh

@parthpiyushprasad709 3 года назад

Can someone explain why Mount gets so much playing time? In a midfield 3, Kovacic, Kante and Jorginho add more. In attack, Werner, Ziyech, Havertz, Tammy add much much more. Heck, Mount isn't too much of a defensive assest! WHY THEN?

@colin2729 3 года назад

If you watch the games he doesn’t play(mount) the energy is completely gone. I was the same at the beginning of the season but once he came back into the team everything clicked. I think he has to be playing in games against teams who drop back. If you watch the games with kovacic, Jorginho and kante then you’ll see the missing all round energy mount brings to a team

@parthpiyushprasad709 3 года назад

@@colin2729 To be fair to Mount, his work rates are quite high. But he as a player, again imo, is still not too developed to be a regular starter for a top 6 club. Plus, using Kante in a more advanced role with the ability to rome around would easily bring out the energy!

@reidlorian9193 3 года назад

I don’t think he has had a slow start If you’ve been watching he has laid on at least 6-7 assists for the side which were not taken so bring his stats would be wonderful for viewing

@lemilemi5385 3 года назад

love the sound attenuating pillows

@delvinj7375 3 года назад

Ziyech, Havertz & James down the right side provides all the balance that Chelsea need

@mysportstakes5167 3 года назад

That’s how city play with debrune, mahrez, walker that’s how Chelsea should play. With havertz playing as Right attacking Mid, ziyech as narrow right winger and Reece James as the right back staying wide offering width.

@keepscrolling6042 3 года назад

I like him as a player, but Chelsea fucked up, we overpaid for him just so Bayern wouldn’t sign him. I would rather develop him as a long term striker, speed and skill and header, he just needs more physicality.

@upkaarsinghdhami 3 года назад

i thought this was going to bejust another stupid pointless debate but the way they actually dived into the tactical side of it ....turned out to be pretty good. Looking forward to more such videos. Thank you

@jonathanichirochia4381 3 года назад

You can't judge Havertz unless you watch his games. It's clear to Chelsea fans that he's a generational talent, he hasn't even played 10 games for CFC and ppl jumping on him like Hyenas

@mysportstakes5167 3 года назад

Stop saying he’s a generational talent just cuz everyone is saying and if you do watch the games he’s been poor and has the given the ball too many times. However he’s work rate has been good and he’s still getting use to the prem. He’s got a lot of potential and it will show soon. He’s been decent so far and hopefully he improves a lot.

@reidlorian9193 3 года назад

As far as havertz and ziyech goes watch the burnley match

@reidlorian9193 3 года назад

The spaces that havertz takes up will undoubtedly free up hakim ziyech

@PuhutaanPyöräilystä 3 года назад

I think Chelsea would do fine with a midfield / attacking formed like this: Werner - left wing, Havertz - 9/10, Ziech - right wing, Mount - roaming playmaker, Kanté - Ball winning midfielder

@parthchauhan4408 3 года назад

Best show till now

@florme6494 3 года назад

Keep Havertz in LAM and when Ziyech drops in the LAM position then Havertz runs in behind. Tammy drops deep, with Werner and Havertz making the angled run in behind. You can see that Mount in the RCM is not running in to the box as often as he is being used to switch, speed up and slow down play. He also allows Chillwell to attack anything coming in to the opponents box. Even when Kova was playing he had a lot more freedom to make continuous runs beyond the opponents defence.

@roohdarX 3 года назад

To all the haters, Havertz has 8 goal contributions (counting the penalty he won) in 10 games. And he's not even peaked yet! Plus he's dynamic, can play as a false 9, RW, a no. 8 and no. 10!

@roohdarX 3 года назад

@THE JOKER whatever you say troll

@roohdarX 3 года назад

@THE JOKER Brother can you read? I said 8 goal contributions, calling anyone a flop after 10 games is not only myopic but extremely knee jerk and poor analysis.

@dinohlabisa2349 3 года назад

@@roohdarX The Joker is a Joke😂how ironic. Quick to chat shit without reading

@dewjibenhaminternational518 3 года назад

I’m a Chelsea fan but am totally shocked to watch this player, I really don’t think he has it in him to play at EPL. Disappointed.

@trupiil 3 года назад

play him as a false nine or second striker as well, because his finishing is top class already.

@odity2076 3 года назад

When you were talking about how many of their attacking players tend to drift towards the left, you could include Chilwell too, who’s been getting very forward on the left side. If you’re going to have chilwell pushing up, providing width on the left hand side, along with Havertz drifting a little left centrally and Werner drifting left in the final third, I’d honestly just not play with a Left Winger. This means you could play with Abraham along with Werner at striker, so Abraham can play a much more central, target-man like role with Werner drifting left to make runs. Chilwell can provide quality crosses which provides the width left by the lack of Left Winger and Havertz will provide a problem for defenders centrally and on the left, while the same would happen with Werner further forward, which is all they need on the left. It’s a weird idea, but it would stop any congestion of space and could allow the likes of Havertz and Werner to do what they do best.

@zafirulrahi1124 3 года назад

Havard is the real CF. Should play

@kwakuadu-yeboah6326 3 года назад

He is a midfielder , a number 8 a midfielder box to box

@YosepRA 3 года назад

One word: *"Elegance"* Don't ever mistake his body language with laziness. He hasn't found his rhythm yet because he's so similar of a player as Ziyech, creative and full of flair. I do think having Mount's horse power can help him to be more focused on becoming the brain of the midfield, therefore an 8 is his best position at Chelsea. But I think Lampard needs to find the balance between Havertz and Ziyech in terms of positioning and overall role in the game.

@Tifo 3 года назад

No one said he was lazy, though

@YosepRA 3 года назад

@@Tifo No no no, I'm talking about the community in general rather than the video itself, though (it's a good video/discussion). To put it more precisely, it will be easy for people to scapegoat him for his body language.

@yaard2141 3 года назад

I really REALLY love Havertz, but I don’t share people’s enthusiasm about the way Havertz is playing. When Mount is playing you see him run back and forth, fighting for every ball, always supporting the attack, when Kovacic is playing he is fighting for the ball in defense and he is connecting the attack and the mid. Finally when Havertz is playing, I find it hard to find him on the pitch, sometimes I purposely try look for him and I find him walking somewhere next to the sidelines or making weird back passes. I have a feeling that they are not using him properly at all.

@Hey__andre 3 года назад

I don't know if you guys know this but Cech & Lampard took secret trips during lockdown to Germany to meet the representatives of Werner and Havertz. Lampard confirmed it during a press conference before the season started. So Yes both Lampard & Cech have pulling power on elite players. Cech also speaks 8 languages fluently which helps.

@joshwamendez1086 3 года назад

We need more of these!!

@jonathananipa9847 3 года назад

Exactly what I was thinking, Ziyech playing alongside Kai will be a problem in terms of positioning during attacking phases. Playing Kai from the left midfield also limits his magic coz he's a left footer. I hope a balance is found for this problem.

@beardbox5258 3 года назад

In his first 5 games he had 4 goals and 3 assists, in comparison Bruno Fernández has 4 goals and 4 assists in his first 5 games and yet he was hailed a sensation, Kai havertz has been fantastic make no mistake this player will do great things.

@KakashiH318 3 года назад

And now he’s won them the cl

@enjoyhealthnow1 3 года назад

the disrespect for ziyech !

@craigr4763 3 года назад

That studio looks very uncomfortable.

@mkaldatym Год назад

Arsenal ❤

@alafe660 3 года назад

This the first time Tifo has posted on the weekend for a while

@muv.nationii4507 3 года назад

I don’t know it not like he’s not playing worryingly bad or something you should get worried about

@Muslimservent 3 года назад

Do more Chelsea videos ❤️❤️

@Brandon-nl1nf 3 года назад

Tifo should be on TV. They are the most open minded and non biased

@radosjelic8748 3 года назад

Wow i was quick to see this one

@katlegotjeane5943 3 года назад

Well done

@mohammedajmalpothiyawala508 3 года назад

I swear

@ronny5788 3 года назад

Well done 2

@Sezze123 3 года назад

Well done 4

@lucid_ 3 года назад

Well done 5

@ukimenustah26 3 года назад

hes really good at carrying the ball forward so amf is his best position in my opinion

@onamiofficial 3 года назад

For me...I think Chelsea should train and upgrade Havertz physical.....he got great height now but not for his physic...and the best position for him in Chelsea is behind striker as number 10 or Chelsea can train him more to become CM👍🏻

@exploringwithkarolos1576 3 года назад

Personally I don't know if I would sign him. He's definitely really talented, but the price was definitely insane. I'd like to see Abraham start as the main striker. And one the sides have Werner and Ziyech. And then I'd also give time to Pulisic who was really promising especially at the end of last season. I'm afraid he's gonna be left out this season. Hudson Odoi is also really talented and shold play more. I feel like Chelsea didn't need Havertz