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Where Should YOU Be Putting The COLOR SPACE TRANSFORM In Your Color Grading Workflow?! 

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When you're color grading LOG Footage, where is the best place to put your color space transform? At the start? At the end? In the middle? In this video, we'll take a look at some of the pros and cons to placing your CST in different places in your node graph!
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0:00 - Intro
0:35 - Project Settings and Housekeeping
1:38 - What Does A Color Space Transform Do?
5:05 - Understanding Nodes
7:19 - Grading Before And After The CST
11:25 - Why Put Nodes After The Color Space Transform?
16:39 - Color Grading Example
20:30 - Summary & Bonus
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@426Studios
@426Studios 10 месяцев назад
I think it would have been better if it was explained what a color space. To the beginners that are reading this, Color Space is a, in simplest terms, is a space that holds the data in the video. The bigger the color space, the more data it can hold. If you put more data than it can handle, then the image will break producing banding etc. If you are thinking that you can just record in rec709 (very small color space) but edit in a bigger color space, then the image will still easily break because the data is already "baked-in" and the video would now be already limited to that colorspace in terms of how much data it can handle. That is why it's best to record in the biggest color space that your camera can record so you have the biggest leeway possible on post like Slog3 for Sony 10bit cameras. In relation to this, while it is not wrong, when you are now tweaking colors, it is very risky to grade in a rec709 space because it has a high chance that the grade will break. The reason for this is that rec709 is a very small color space, so you are basically limiting yourself by grading in this very limited color space. Yes, while it's true that some tools better react to rec709, starting from Davinci Resolve 17 up to the current version, majority of the tools are now color space aware so the reasons why you should grade in rec709 space is getting smaller. There are still tools that would react better to rec709 such as tracking and masking, but for the most part, in recent versions of Davinci its now color space aware so just grade in the biggest color space available like Davinci Intermediate then just switch to rec709 if the tool isn't behaving optimally
@iambenlerner
@iambenlerner Год назад
Another thing you may want to do after the CST - magic mask and tracking, which tend to perform better with a rec. 709 input.
@FenzirL
@FenzirL Год назад
I have had somany confusions with CST and all of that has been answered in this single video! Thanks a tonn Dunna! You are a life saver 🌟
@papsny
@papsny Год назад
Hey man, great video and thanks for keeping up with the community! You are one of the few YTubers that I still follow and listen to because you have been faithful to your program and have always been sharing what is best and what can be good for us. Never give up! Thanks again for the tutorial!
@jiggyb21
@jiggyb21 Год назад
I'm so proud of myself because I completely understand all the concepts explained here and my man, did you explain something rather complicated very clearly. Well done! And thank you very much.
@felixarm
@felixarm Год назад
These videos are awesome Dunna. Thanks for taking the time to explain everything so well for us trying to work our way around the software. Keep them coming!
@dunnadidit
@dunnadidit Год назад
Thanks so much for saying that!
@DrDrift-rl6cc
@DrDrift-rl6cc 9 месяцев назад
Thank you Dunna, you really are putting up a color grading bible of sorts on RU-vid. You and Darren Mostyn are doing something amazing. Thank you!
@Mike0193Azul
@Mike0193Azul 6 месяцев назад
Appreciate in-depth explanations and examples such as showing what happens with nodes after and before color space transform 💚
@EvanSchneider
@EvanSchneider Год назад
You have a gift of explaining complicated things clearly and concisely! Great video.
@dunnadidit
@dunnadidit Год назад
Thanks dude! This may have been one of the most challenging topics to simplify enough for a beginner while still feeling like I was covering the topic decently so it means a lot to hear you say that.
@alex_klinovoy
@alex_klinovoy Год назад
wow... this is exactly what i've been looking for quite some time, thanks man
@krsnab7718
@krsnab7718 9 месяцев назад
The best explanation I found! I have been struggling for so long with the LUTs. Thank you 😊
@des22059
@des22059 8 месяцев назад
Magnificent tutorial! Really appreciate your step by step example to show kinda real life workflow!
@NicholasLattimore
@NicholasLattimore 8 месяцев назад
This was one of the best Davinci Resolve tutorials I've honestly ever seen. Very succinct, great small tips along the bigger, more over-arching themes and useful. Expecting this to help my workflow a ton!
@BrianSellers
@BrianSellers Год назад
Dude, this is a FANTASTIC video - just the right amount of technical juice for someone who knows enough to get him/herself in trouble, combined with great explanation to help keep us out of said trouble. Thanks!
@dunnadidit
@dunnadidit Год назад
Thanks for saying that! Glad it’s helpful!
@londonztoa6359
@londonztoa6359 Год назад
Really clear excellent explanation. Big thanks!
@5five2
@5five2 8 месяцев назад
Fantastic video, very well explained! That you
@tonypinko
@tonypinko Год назад
Just finished my first project since switching to Resolve, and your videos were my primary resource for the colour page. Each tutorial has had so many useful tidbits, alongside a very clear explanation of the topic as a whole. Thank you!
@dunnadidit
@dunnadidit Год назад
Great to hear! Thanks for watching!
@melanienolley
@melanienolley Год назад
Insanely useful. Thanks!
@DBrown-ig8em
@DBrown-ig8em Месяц назад
Super helpful! Solved some big mysteries for me.
@stormrowles
@stormrowles Год назад
Just finished the black magic courses and this is exactly what I needed, they dive into so many technical things that are great but don’t touch in things like this that I really needed, you are the goat🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐
@mort.
@mort. 6 месяцев назад
They is what I needed 😭😭
@mcintosh.motors
@mcintosh.motors Год назад
Didn’t know how much I needed this video, so much great information here. I’ve doing it wrong, veery wrong, this whole time 🥲😅 Time to go back and grade some old footage!
@elshowdeoscarflores
@elshowdeoscarflores Год назад
Cool!! Thank you!!
@castyourmemories9686
@castyourmemories9686 7 месяцев назад
Nicely explained. Thanks.
@jefflacey
@jefflacey Год назад
Excellent video!!! I'm new to LOG footage and Davinci so your videos are very much appreciated. Thank you for the quality content.
@dunnadidit
@dunnadidit Год назад
Nice! Glad to hear it was helpful!
@adrianbuckley
@adrianbuckley Год назад
The video I've been looking for!!💥
@dunnadidit
@dunnadidit Год назад
Nice!
@arranpbrown
@arranpbrown Год назад
This was excellent, Dunna! Another great, well-explained video. I’m not gonna lie, I didn’t even know what a colour space transform was, but this was super helpful and it sounds like it could really help make colours look more accurate. Cheers!!
@dunnadidit
@dunnadidit Год назад
Thanks so much Arran!
@osayandeaikhionbare1636
@osayandeaikhionbare1636 Год назад
Strong work bro!
@boernin
@boernin Год назад
I love your videos! I am switching to DaVinci after 6 years of Premiere and am just blown away by the possibilities and the workflow. Keep up the great work! :D
@dunnadidit
@dunnadidit Год назад
Glad you like them! Cheers!
@tripleinc
@tripleinc Год назад
Dude I just watched your "are you using S log right?" Video from a few months ago yesterday and now you drop this one - perfect timing! I'm wanting to transition from shooting all standard profiles into mainly S log and your videos have been such a huge help. Just got DaVinci resolve and it's a night and day difference color grading in there vs premiere pro. Thanks for all the work you do and keep the great content coming! 🤘
@dunnadidit
@dunnadidit Год назад
Nice! Thanks so much for the kind words and encouragement!
@andresbernalsanchez3955
@andresbernalsanchez3955 Год назад
Great video, man, thanks!
@dunnadidit
@dunnadidit Год назад
Thanks a ton!
@thohleytholaal7229
@thohleytholaal7229 Год назад
appreciate the work thanks a lott
@Just_Samson
@Just_Samson 6 месяцев назад
This was so helpful. Appreciate you
@dunnadidit
@dunnadidit 6 месяцев назад
Glad it was helpful!
@samleslie1891
@samleslie1891 6 месяцев назад
thank you!
@CasaAllacampanile
@CasaAllacampanile Год назад
So good. I’ve been playing with leeming luts to do that job but this looks easier to expose.
@LGtheTrainer
@LGtheTrainer Год назад
Dude - as someone looking to become a pro editor and make it a career...this was the best video on colour and the specific use of Davinci. Thank you!
@LloydCarig
@LloydCarig Год назад
Your davinci series have been a great help man!
@dunnadidit
@dunnadidit Год назад
Glad to hear that!! Thanks for watching!
@Shadow_Li
@Shadow_Li Год назад
thank you so much dun
@dunnadidit
@dunnadidit Год назад
Cheers!
@michafrantzen651
@michafrantzen651 Год назад
great video bro! thanks!!!
@dunnadidit
@dunnadidit Год назад
Glad you liked it! Check out my other videos!
@JunaidKureshi
@JunaidKureshi 8 месяцев назад
Guru Dunna Did It 🙏🏻
@movelarde7551
@movelarde7551 Год назад
Great video. I'm a beginner and was just always messing with the CST even fixing exposure in it. But I'll try your method. Sounds better.
@wearetrackclub
@wearetrackclub Год назад
Really nice and helpful tips! Thanks!
@dunnadidit
@dunnadidit Год назад
Thanks for watching!
@deardaughter
@deardaughter 11 месяцев назад
You may be the most useful person in the world. Thank you.
@JeppPadilla
@JeppPadilla Год назад
Thank you so much!
@dunnadidit
@dunnadidit Год назад
You're welcome!
@geoffreymee7671
@geoffreymee7671 Год назад
That was just fantastic Duna. U laid it out really well. So I can stop scratching around for a good explanation now - thx to u.
@dunnadidit
@dunnadidit Год назад
I'm glad I was able to help!
@tylercornelison
@tylercornelison Год назад
Discovering Color Space Transform was one of the best days of my life. Don’t tell my wife 😂
@dunnadidit
@dunnadidit Год назад
Haha 😂
@georgitushev
@georgitushev Год назад
Thanks!
@dunnadidit
@dunnadidit Год назад
Thanks so much for the generosity
@aylenstudios
@aylenstudios Год назад
I have been doing my colouring very similarly to you, but i have been putting my grading before the cst. i might try doing it after now
@TIGERVISION666
@TIGERVISION666 Год назад
Good stuff I've been stuck with this problem for weeks now i solved
@dunnadidit
@dunnadidit Год назад
Glad to hear that!
@bsproductions-id
@bsproductions-id Год назад
man, nice and easy to understand.
@dunnadidit
@dunnadidit Год назад
Thanks! I try not to make it too advanced or technical!
@davidschwan
@davidschwan Год назад
Nice Video Bro !
@dunnadidit
@dunnadidit Год назад
Thanks!
@OnlyOneLifeYT
@OnlyOneLifeYT Год назад
I bought a 300€ DVR Course from a French RU-vidr (cause I am french) and he didn't explain this as well as you do. I changed my DVR language to english and I will watch all your guides. You should make an entire course with those kind of videos cause there is a great value behind this. Thank you a lot for your work.
@dunnadidit
@dunnadidit Год назад
Thanks so much for saying that!!
@RichardCejas
@RichardCejas Год назад
this is the best explanation of this topic in RU-vid by far. this content should be in a course not here in RU-vid, that being said... thank you so much!
@dunnadidit
@dunnadidit Год назад
Thanks for the kind words!
@ShakeelNaim
@ShakeelNaim 8 месяцев назад
Fantastic video. Explained it all so clearly. I just spent 3 hours messing about with Apple log video I shot on my iPhone and wish I’d come across this earlier. I will reedit my video tomorrow using the learnings from this video
@dunnadidit
@dunnadidit 8 месяцев назад
I’ve got a video about apple log coming too!
@ShakeelNaim
@ShakeelNaim 8 месяцев назад
@@dunnadidit aah excellent. I’ll keep an eye out for it 👍🏼
@ShakeelNaim
@ShakeelNaim 7 месяцев назад
@@dunnadidit just watching your new video on Apple Log ☺️☺️☺️
@PiDsPagePrototypes
@PiDsPagePrototypes 5 месяцев назад
4:50 - There is a 'right place' - Colourspace Transform ALWAYS goes first. If you don't do it that way, you get results like us Cion owners dealt with, where reviewers and colourists who'd never worked with Linear footage (but 'I know what I'm doing,...'), treated it like Log and Effed It Up Badly. Linear is great for CG and Unreal, and there's only a handful of cameras that can do it - some Sony's and Arri's and the AJA.
@mapleglades
@mapleglades Год назад
Great video Dunna! Love these dives into color space. I wonder if it'd be helpful for folks to see your process with the colour checker card, and if you use the Davinci colour chart tool in place of a colour space transform node, or just for colour correction!
@dunnadidit
@dunnadidit Год назад
Thanks dude! To be honest, I don’t really use the color checker card much unless I feel like it will be a tricky white balance situation. Then I use the flip side as a grey card. I just figured it would help with demonstrating in this case because there might not be some colors in the shot without it. I probably should look into using it more though!
@mapleglades
@mapleglades Год назад
@@dunnadidit Oh totally! It definitely is a little more niche, but definitely that next step for folks getting those exact colours matched, especially across different camera brands! Anyways, keep up all the good vids! Your teaching style is always super easy to digest, and we appreciate you!
@yann-davidakpa7635
@yann-davidakpa7635 Год назад
One of the best tuto, thanks you !!! But, where will you put the node for the skin ?
@HeyThisIsAndrew
@HeyThisIsAndrew Год назад
Your videos have been helping me so much recently. I’m finally starting to make content and that smooth zoom tutorial was incredible. I look forward to practicing the color grading tutorials soon, I’m just here watching to check it out for now but I have never color graded so this is going over my head at the moment admittedly Anywho, would you consider making a video for best camera settings on Sony A7IV or do you have a particular video you used to learn it? The menu system is so confusing on A7IV.
@dunnadidit
@dunnadidit Год назад
Great to hear the videos have been helpful. I'll definitely consider your suggestion! If you watch my a7s3 setup video, the menus are similar, you might be able to get something from that.
@sharp_focus
@sharp_focus 4 месяца назад
I've done some tests myself and you are right. I've seen many videos saying that you should have first node CST (Log to DaVinci wide gamut) and last node CST (DaVinci wide to Rec709) and all the color grading in between. But after I've done many tests myself, I weasn't able to get the best image, it had more noise when I was pushing the darks too high. If I do the same before the CST, the image looks a lot cleaer, color don't fall apart and it just makes more sense. Your video confimed what I discovered. Thanks!
@akyhne
@akyhne 26 дней назад
Well, doing the double CST is the right way to do it. Not the way you found to work better. Try shifting to use the HDR color wheels, as they work different than the regular ones. In fact, Dunna Did It responded to another post here, saying that, yes, double CST is the proper way to do it, but chose not to, in this tutorial, for simplicity.
@randyrektor
@randyrektor Год назад
Dang dude, this answered a lot of questions.
@dunnadidit
@dunnadidit Год назад
I'm glad it was helpful!
@JimRobinson-colors
@JimRobinson-colors Год назад
Although I applaud that your doing some testing and showing your results - there are some problems in your analysis when it comes to the before a CST, and after in the testing mode, and your assumptions. Firstly, the explanation of the scene referred camera colorspace and gamma has a forward OOTF that Resolve analyses, and changes the mapping to the new space accordingly. So making changes before the CST, and after need to have that to be unchecked firstly. The other problem is that you then have tone mapping set to Davinci which the option tone maps the transform with a smooth luminance roll-off in the shadows and highlights, and controls desaturation of image values in the very brightest and darkest parts of the image. This setting is particularly useful for wide-gamut camera media and is a good setting to use when mixing media from different cameras. So of course the node after will make a difference. When you set up your timeline in the project settings to Rec709 gamma 2.4 - the tools react the same before or after the CST because the timeline colorspace is set to rec709 - The whole thing is clearer when you set the timeline to Davinci Wide Gamut as you referred to in the start of this video. All your controls are actually reacting to a rec709 when the timeline is set to rec709 - same with luts - the reason it looks different on your timeline is the tone and luminance mapping. The nodes before are showing you a log image in a rec709 colorspace but they are not displaying them. I think that showing how the node placement for CST would have been less confusing and more accurate if you had of set the timeline space to Davinci Wide Gamut - then the first CST would feed the camera information in ( log to DWG ) and then a second CST near the end of the node tree showing the conversion to the monitor display ( DWG to Rec709 ) - then all the controls before the final CST would be actually color space aware and work differently. Even with this layout - it is okay to have a node before the CST if you want to change the middle grey before transform.
@dunnadidit
@dunnadidit Год назад
Hey Jim, thanks for the input. I considered doing a DWG version of this video since I do work that way most of the time but in the end I decided that a more simplified rec709 look at the node order and CST would be more beginner friendly because I wouldn't have to explain all the specifics behind color space aware tools, which ones are/aren't CSA and how to deal with that, why you want to have a wider space to grade in etc, etc, etc. While your addition is absolutely great, technical, thorough and you obviously know what you're doing, I believe it is significantly beyond what is necessary for a beginner to get going with log footage in DVR and therefore didn't fall into the purview of what I was attempting to do here. Even if I tried extremely hard to explain what you've said in more simple terms, I feel like it would overwhelm the average content creator looking to get into things here and for those who are up for the challenge, they'll get their on their own (maybe from a future video of mine if I decide to make a more technical in depth version). Anyway! I appreciate your input and that you took the time to add this in the comments section for my viewers to see! Happy to have you here.
@papithetortilla1182
@papithetortilla1182 Месяц назад
I use color space transform to convert my camera footage into Davinci wide gamma and Davinci intermediate as the first node, then at the end, transform that Davinci gamma back to rec709 gamma 2.4
@LukeAntunes
@LukeAntunes 11 месяцев назад
This is so incredibly helpful! I had heard of color space transform but assumed it was too “professional” to ever try. You make this sound so easy! Is this included in resolve out of the box or is it a plug-in? Also- I noticed you quickly re-labeled your nodes (could’ve been through the magic of editing). Is there a keyboard shortcut for that?
@mattmjlg5053
@mattmjlg5053 6 месяцев назад
Wasting hours looking for videos like yours. Please keep up the crazy technical videos in color grading with cst. Everyone else is releasing garbage showing you how to tweak sliders. We need more in-depths on these topics like when you brushed over gamma 2.0 rec709 like that could be a whole topic
@gionalachin749
@gionalachin749 Год назад
Great vid dunna! i was wondering wich settings i should take in the color space transform if i took the shot in cine4 I am pretty new to color grading and i think its simpler to start in cine4 Thank you!
@dunnadidit
@dunnadidit Год назад
You don’t actually need a CST for cine4 as far as I’m aware. It’s a rec709 based profile so you can just grade it with the tools as normal!
@FREEDOMCONSERVATION
@FREEDOMCONSERVATION 9 месяцев назад
Hello, if we use DaVinci YRGB Color Managed is there any reason to use a CST node too? I mean i can select in project settings that my input color space is lets say S-Gammut3.cine and the output to be Rec709 and DaVinci will automatically color manage that, no?
@dunnadidit
@dunnadidit 9 месяцев назад
Color managed just automatically puts in a cst at the start and end. So if you use that way it’s exactly the Same as going log>DWG at the start and DWG>rec709 at the end. The only downside is that if you have any tools or parts of your process that require you to do them in rec709, then color managed makes that a bit more difficult.
@iamzebra7025
@iamzebra7025 10 месяцев назад
Thank you. The fact that f.ex. Cineon has the built in rec 709 output was very important information also the comparison of ”what you do before CST is like what you do in camera” was super helpful because it has been a bit difficult to see reasons for certain order(s). one thing though (and I know you briefly talk about this there too): Some people seem to want to work widegamut timeline… do you have any opinion on that? Thanks 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@wildpatagoniafilms16
@wildpatagoniafilms16 Год назад
Excellent post ! Couple of questions.... When it comes to noise reduction you would do that before the CST ? at 19:33 when you create the new CS, on the "output color space" you had the choice: "use timeline", what did you have it on...? (I assume from the project settings...) and last, the final CST needs to be created not only to apply any film lut from Davinci itself, but also if we want to use film convert /dehancer...? Thanks! (hope my question is not too confusing cheers! :)
@JustinKendter
@JustinKendter 11 месяцев назад
Quick question. First, thank you for this! It's exactly what I wanted. I do like to edit on my Mac though and have export look the same as what I edited so I use Rec.709-A. Is there a different setting I want to use for the "Color Space Transform" or keep to what you have?
@danimac2028
@danimac2028 2 месяца назад
Hi Dunna thanks for your tutorial!! How do I recognise if a Lut is already for Rec 709, or something else? Also if you mix clips in Log from the camera and Drone with d-Cinelike profile, how do you manage the different profiles? Do you create a color transform node every time to change the output? Thanks
@projectcycling
@projectcycling Год назад
I'm currently edit in a Color managed timeline. Instead of using color transform nodes I set my projects with a custom color managed setup, setting the input color space and gamma, a davinci wide gamut timeline and a rec709 output. A lot easier
@orokanaworld
@orokanaworld Год назад
This video is like the ahaaaaa now i get it video
@AmillionCo
@AmillionCo 3 месяца назад
So after applying the lut you don’t need another node for Rec 709 2.4 ?
@carson_wrobel
@carson_wrobel Год назад
Hey Dunna, thanks for the great vid as always. But do you notice a washed out less contrast/saturation after Export on Davinci resolve like they do in Premiere Pro?
@AntonNordstrand
@AntonNordstrand Год назад
I think this is a Mac problem, the solution is this: File > Project Settings > Color Management > Output Color Space > Rec 709-A
@KirkwoodImaging
@KirkwoodImaging Год назад
How would you recommend grading DJI’s Dlog-M?
@user-ix4fu5bg6b
@user-ix4fu5bg6b 8 месяцев назад
Awesome video! Question, around the 16-minute mark you mentioned that the film look LUTs expect a cineon gamma. How do I figure that out on my own? Where do I look to see which gamma is expected when applying a LUT?
@mckenzerogers5297
@mckenzerogers5297 21 день назад
Right click on the LUT -> Click 'Reveal In Finder' -> Open the LUT file with 'TextEdit'. This will show what the LUTS original INPUT and OUTPUT are. Cheers!
@rdfilmefoto
@rdfilmefoto Год назад
THANK YOU !! what you think about the auto ISO in video?! so many people talking about it (saying sony ''reccomends to shoot in +1.7'' and ''ISO not causes GRAIN'') , but i ''think'' it not applies to video..
@dunnadidit
@dunnadidit Год назад
Generally, I never shoot auto ISO and I try to keep my iso as low as possible if I have the ability to increase light in other ways. It really depends on the situation. Increasing iso will increase visible noise but it’s also important to understand how your specific camera deals with iso.
@lc_videophoto2454
@lc_videophoto2454 10 месяцев назад
Hi, I wanted to ask you how can I tell if the lut I want to use works better with the REC 709 or the Cineon. Thanks, greetings
@NegrilaDumitru-lr4el
@NegrilaDumitru-lr4el Год назад
Can u make a video when u explain witch is better for video editing and why? premiere or davinci resolve
@dunnadidit
@dunnadidit Год назад
No need for a whole video. I pick davinci! In fact, I did. I was a premiere user for quite a while and switching to davinci was huge!
@IlianCosta
@IlianCosta 10 месяцев назад
How do you know with those film look lut's, or any other lut what colorspace they need? 14:07
@Supercon57
@Supercon57 Год назад
Wouldn't doing primary adjustments in a rec709 node before a CST be a bad idea? Unless your primary nodes are set to Slog3/sgamut3cine to make those adjustments based on how the log curve compresses the image, then lead those adjustments into a CST
@Gunstcreative
@Gunstcreative Год назад
What about adding an ACES color space transform after the Rec709? Where should that be?
@SSU14
@SSU14 Год назад
Hey Dunna. I apply the CST on the clip by right clicking and setting the input color space/gamma there. I was doing it in the node, but found out that was the wrong way to do it, and makes how your controls affect images with different color spaces seem really random, as well as changes the way your eyedropper works in a really bad way.
@loganwebb5449
@loganwebb5449 5 месяцев назад
I believe this only works in color managed modes. He’s not working in a color manger timeline.
@mkoepf92
@mkoepf92 5 месяцев назад
Which Input should I use in CST when I shoot with PP off, I can't find anything for that and would be happy for some help :)
@evanleemiller
@evanleemiller 6 месяцев назад
Where would you sharpen the image?
@frank.arroyo.sports
@frank.arroyo.sports 10 месяцев назад
Do you know what is the input gamma for cine2
@pieroist
@pieroist Год назад
Hey Dunna, awesome video and explanation! I was wondering why you are using gamma 2.4 instead of 2.2 for your output color space. Gamma 2.4 for timeline definitely makes sense looking at your grading environment, you are apparently working in controlled, darker viewing conditions. But as far as I know the RU-vid standard is 2.2. So how are you dealing with that issue - are you adding gamma tags when rendering or are you doing some kind of CST on timeline level at the end? Thanks!
@dunnadidit
@dunnadidit Год назад
Hey! Thanks for the kind words! To be honest, I’ve done a lot of playing around with export options (you can convert the gamma in the advanced section on export as well) and a ton of other things too but I found that in order to get the most accurate looking color from what I see to what plays in QuickTime, to what plays on RU-vid, Rec 709, gamma 2.4 seems to work for me. Though since I got a new monitor (the big 32” one on the bottom), I have been pulling my hair out trying to get it to match the rest of my system. Oh the never ending nightmare of being a creative lol
@pieroist
@pieroist Год назад
@@dunnadidit color management and matching screens is simply a mess🥲 I've done a ton of reaearch on this. what has worked for me on mac is checking the "use mac display color profile for viewers" box and using Rec709-A as timeline and output color space. That way the resolve viewer, quicktime and youtube looks about the same. but you're obviously not doing anything wrong with your workflow, looking at your videos. :) thanks for replying anyways and keep on making those vids!!
@dunnadidit
@dunnadidit Год назад
Nice tip! I don’t think I tried all of that in one place haha you’re right it is a mess!
@RafalGendarz
@RafalGendarz Год назад
@@pieroist yes rec709-a is the closest thing to quicktime and final cut - it's the same. gamma 2.4 is darker
@sammyh9542
@sammyh9542 11 месяцев назад
I am having trouble preparing the clip be for the CST. I have to keep the CST node to see the outcome correctly. Am I doing something wrong?
@49thparallelbookingsandmgmt
@49thparallelbookingsandmgmt 3 месяца назад
THANKS !! I just learnt something NEW with this video. To Use the Color Space Transform.
@SnehithPamarathi
@SnehithPamarathi 9 месяцев назад
what is the name of that piece of color board shown in the very begining and it's purpose in color grading ?
@BuildItMakeIt
@BuildItMakeIt Год назад
I saw you were using a color card. Do you typically use a color transform and then use the color card, or do you just use the card when you have it? I am still trying to find what process works best for me and to not waste too much time. My last video ended up seeming a bit desaturated when I was all said and done when I tried to use the color card in each shot.
@dunnadidit
@dunnadidit Год назад
Honestly, I rarely use the color card and just busted it out for the purposes of this example. And even when I do have it. I generally still use a CST because it works with my workflow best!
@BuildItMakeIt
@BuildItMakeIt Год назад
@@dunnadidit thanks. I think I am going to go back and try more either cst. It u it a way faster and I need to get better at my color.
@sheastlouis
@sheastlouis Год назад
How do you edit your audio?
@felixxyzz
@felixxyzz 11 месяцев назад
How do i find out which Input the Luts needing? For example how do you know that the Davinci Luts are needing Cineon Film Log?
@Alexrocks1253
@Alexrocks1253 Год назад
Make sure to turn on saturation compression in gamut mapping too so there aren’t any crazy out of gamut colors during the transform, which can happen commonly when converting from log to r709.
@wildpatagoniafilms16
@wildpatagoniafilms16 Год назад
what about Tone Mapping? what choice? thanks!
@Alexrocks1253
@Alexrocks1253 Год назад
@@wildpatagoniafilms16 DaVinci and luminance work best. Saturation preserving is good if you find the tone mapping making colors dull from the higher dynamic range but it can lead to over-saturation
@wildpatagoniafilms16
@wildpatagoniafilms16 Год назад
@@Alexrocks1253 hey thanks! Now... this is with Log footage, (from any camera...) How about lets say if I work with RED Raw or other proprietary RAW...? same steps.... CST from RAW to Rec 709...? Thanks again! cheers!
@Alexrocks1253
@Alexrocks1253 Год назад
@@wildpatagoniafilms16 now personally I use color management and let DaVinci resolve so the hard work and just select which combo for input transform the footage uses. If still using CST, as long as you know the gamma and color space, it should be an accurate conversion, even from raw footage, though color management transforms raw footage automatically.
@wildpatagoniafilms16
@wildpatagoniafilms16 Год назад
@@Alexrocks1253 I see, makes sense! I suppose that even if you use Color management and let Davinci do the heavy lifting... you would still use a CST at the end of the node tree if you want to use lets say a film LUT either from davinci or a third party one, (using cineon for instance), same if using filmconvert ... (kindly advise you seem to be very knowledgeable!!!). cheers & thanks again! ;)
@benjaminhernes
@benjaminhernes Год назад
What if I shot it with an iPhone 14, which color space should I be using? Can´t find anything that matches what I originally had in cam..
@sijilo
@sijilo Год назад
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@fsdsdfsfdfds9598
@fsdsdfsfdfds9598 Год назад
I shot 1.5 TB of Footage on the 6k pro in Full 6k Braw Film Gen 5. Its a client project and I need to deliver it in the best quality possible for uploading on a website through Vimeo. I would like to color grade the footage in DaVinci and export it to After Effects while maintaining all the quality in 6k resolution for editing. What would be the best project settings and color space transform from start to finish? Blackmagic Gen 5 Color Space and Blackmagic Film Gen 5 Gamma to Davinci Wide Gamut and Davinci Intermediate and then that to Rec 709 and Gamma 2.4 / Cineon Film Log? Can I deliver in Rec 709 as color space and Cineon Film Log as Gamma and still have it displayed nicely on all displays even tho it’s Cineon and not Gamma 2.4? What would be the best render settings or way to export the footage 6k lossless to after effects? I would really appreciate your answer! Thanks for this video.
@contemarcula
@contemarcula 5 месяцев назад
Where to put the Skin node then? Before or after the CST? If I put it before the CST I can no longer activate the skin mask, while if I put it after I have a loss of file information.
@JCBShortFilms
@JCBShortFilms Год назад
Dunna is the ultimate RU-vid photographer; a Sony shooter and a Resolve user 😂
@Fireandagrill
@Fireandagrill Год назад
does it matter having the final CST to rec 709, gamma 2.4 or can you just leave the final CST deliver in 709, 2.4. I cant really see a problem with it
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