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Where to Spend Your First Knowledge Points! - Vault Hunters 1.18 Guide 

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Which mods are the best to unlock in the early game to give you a huge boost to your Vault Hunters progression? Let's look at some of the best places to spend those hard earned knowledge points!
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@deadlypandaghost
@deadlypandaghost Год назад
Note that with Waystones you gain access to warp plates. Which means only 1 person actually needs to mod to setup a teleportation network. Also can be used to move items long distance that are dropped on the plates.
@Hellfirem4ge
@Hellfirem4ge Год назад
Yeah waystones was one of those on my shortlist. I love that mod ☺️
@marloesvaneck9948
@marloesvaneck9948 Год назад
I love that you are slowly upgrading the tutorial house
@Hellfirem4ge
@Hellfirem4ge Год назад
I'm glad that someone finally noticed 😃 There's even rooms that I've built and haven't shown anyone yet!
@An1mat0rz
@An1mat0rz Год назад
Personally I'm starting with Simple Storage Networks first because with pouches and shulkers you can manage most if not all the loot you get early game till you get enough knowledge for your first pouch. Having everything in one location makes it SO much easier.
@Hellfirem4ge
@Hellfirem4ge Год назад
Absolutely! This was more of a "these are good choices" than "take them in this order" ☺️
@timklafke4712
@timklafke4712 Год назад
I’m just starting this pack (I played the 1.16 one a bunch last year though so I know the basics). This is EXACTLY the mod I was looking at earlier today. Storage is such a pain but the other good storage systems require power and a good chunk of knowledge to unlock. Simple networks still consists of chest clutter from what it sounds like but shit if I can at least search through all my chests from one interface that is good enough for me tbh. Would you recommend getting this before pouches though, because I was seriously considering it today. I’m already sick of storage issues lol.
@Hellfirem4ge
@Hellfirem4ge Год назад
Tbh, either way around is completely valid ☺️ depends if you want to loot more or be more organised
@timklafke4712
@timklafke4712 Год назад
@@Hellfirem4ge Yeah fair, I think storage will end up being my prio since I feel like so far in this pack vs 1.16 my inventory is getting way less cluttered than before. Idk if it changes at like rank 10, 20 etc but so far just running shulkers works fine and im almost at one knowledge stat already.
@plantcraftie4141
@plantcraftie4141 Год назад
I just started playing the modpack a couple of days ago... you're saving lives with your guide
@plantcraftie4141
@plantcraftie4141 Год назад
I wouldn't have thought to take botany pots now (because I've already some vanilla farms built). But the fact that you can farm coral, nether wart and wither roses with, makes it much more interesting.
@Hellfirem4ge
@Hellfirem4ge Год назад
Yeah it's kinda crazy now much stuff you can farm! Honestly, I'm taking it for a carrot farm because I'm lazy 😂
@plantcraftie4141
@plantcraftie4141 Год назад
@@Hellfirem4ge i just made a vanilla one haha. Hey do you plsss plss plss want to make a video about how to find new obelisks and the other one that you have to find? 1 out of 10 runs I go for objectives I succeed and the rest I run out without any loot/success. (i'm level 15)
@plantcraftie4141
@plantcraftie4141 Год назад
@@Hellfirem4ge ah, to find obelisks and monoliths! (that's what they're called!)
@Hellfirem4ge
@Hellfirem4ge Год назад
@@plantcraftie4141 there's not much point since they're being reworked next patch anyway ☺️
@plantcraftie4141
@plantcraftie4141 Год назад
@@Hellfirem4ge No this answer is perfect!! Thank you so much!
@guillaumerobichaud1978
@guillaumerobichaud1978 Год назад
Simple storage + drawers is amazing. Using filtered link cables, we can pipe items anywhere (set a priority, optionally with a whitelist filter). Here's my setup: - Priority 0 (default): An array of chests for simple storage, the usual stuff. - Priority -10: Drawer controller. Having a low priority makes items fill in drawers first, to not clutter regular chests. - Priority -5: Automated processes. Like a carrot farm will store carrots in drawers in priority. Once that drawer is full, a specific filtered link cable can pull carrots into a composter setup to output bonemeal (same with all crops really, you only have to add items to the filtered link cable whitelist). Another cool process is a tree farm, storing apples/sticks/logs. The overflow of logs can be piped to furnaces for charcoal, charcoal can be piped into auto-smelters fuel. (apple overflow can be composted, sticks can be discarded). - Priority -15: This bypasses drawers so useful for smeltable ores, piped to auto-smelter input. Ores never enter the storage, only the smelted stuff does. - Priority -4 to -1: Reserved for junk. Things that you do not want to enter the system, can be piped into a thrashcan (like bread/torches/scaffolding you loot in the vault, or excess bonemeal/charcoal you produce) - Priority +1 and up: This is the system overflow. Once your priority 0 chests are all full, this will start to fill in. Add a comparator with a lamp to signal you have to clean up space, upgrade drawers or add regular chests. With drawers, you can even add compacting drawers for vault coins, beni/lari, compressed blocks or whatnot. For compressed blocks, create can also be used with a mechanical press setup to take the overflow of say cobblestone, and output compressed cobblestone. There's like 656 recipes for the mechanical press "automated packing"...
@Quickster7089
@Quickster7089 Год назад
ikr, drawer with simple storagr is jsut amazing and if you have just a bunch of random items that can't get in the drawers you can add a colossal chest and there you wont need to deal with storage for a while i haven't have to upgrade my storage system in so long
@PrismaticPixie
@PrismaticPixie Год назад
Modular routers is hands down amazing! I used it for the first time this season after seeing it at the gold farm featured in one of your other videos (that Fuzzy made).
@Hellfirem4ge
@Hellfirem4ge Год назад
I absolutely love them, they're so useful and people really sleep on them!
@mikecroakphone
@mikecroakphone Год назад
I think my first choice is pouches... with the intregated sorting chest of VH is waaay easier to keep your inventory more or less organised. You have to go chest by chest but it's fine at the early game
@lord_gregatron3246
@lord_gregatron3246 Год назад
I went pouches first and I do not regret it at all. I went storage drawers 2nd, and that I do regret. Everything is so expensive! The drawer controller takes a pog and 4 black chromatic steal. I think i selected the drawers too early.
@mickus85
@mickus85 9 месяцев назад
I miss these tutorials and wished there were some for sky vaults
@XanaTv1980
@XanaTv1980 8 месяцев назад
Thx man very THX!!!!
@BWA_O
@BWA_O Год назад
Also simple storage filter importers are cheap and work great with shullckers boxes and 1x stack and 3x speed upgrades. Empty box in about 30secs, as I fell modular routers is still a bit expensive before lvl 20
@Hellfirem4ge
@Hellfirem4ge Год назад
It can be a little but it is extremely flexible and cheaper than a lot of the bigger mods ☺️
@BWA_O
@BWA_O Год назад
@@Hellfirem4ge well in update 5 they made jei info tell you what lvl vault the items drop and that's what I was basing my info on. But yes it is able to do tons and very versatile.
@kinghosty
@kinghosty 4 месяца назад
Bro thanks i wanted to quit this mod and you made me want to play
@jonathanhutsebaut
@jonathanhutsebaut Год назад
The real MVP in vault hunters!
@HonorAiry7
@HonorAiry7 Год назад
Modular routers are very confusing to me; I had them in VH2 but could never figure out how to get them to work correctly. Could you possibly do a more in-depth video about that mod in particular? Thank you, your videos have been so helpful to me this season!
@Hellfirem4ge
@Hellfirem4ge Год назад
Yeah that is a good idea actually. I love modular routers
@Icanhasmovies
@Icanhasmovies Год назад
@@Hellfirem4ge I would love to see A video about this too! Your videos are much easier to understand
@SirDansDen
@SirDansDen Год назад
I'm not gona lie, Vault hunters v18 looks okey... to watch... I don't enjoy Iskalls new videos but it is my personal preference (I loved his old single player VH). The only reason I didn't quit this modpack is because of you, I love your passion and engagement. Its super fun to watch your guides and way you analyze VH. I don't have tons of time on my hands but I preferred the previous version... In v16 I lowered the mobs difficulty to easy as I am garbage in MC combat and the Vault resources requirements to lowest as gathering TONS UPON TONS of resources was so extremely time consuming... it was killing me. I would love to play vault hunters but I just think Iksall is just making it Forcefully Way to long to accomplish anything. I admire his and his team work but I would rather see a compromise, Make a setting where you can choose if you want game speed to be fast (not increasing costs of mod unlocks, more resources to drop from vaults, each vault to have specific amount of enemy's like in example "The binging of Isaac" kill everything and loot till your heart content). I have 2 jobs and I'm playing other games with friends but the lack of available decision for me to play this amazing mudpack FASTER kills my will to play. I don't mean CHANGE the entire modpack but ADD an options for people to adjust ALL AND ANY SETTINGS for example "Mobs in rooms as they are now, option 2 = Specific amount of mobs in each Vault Room, Option 3 = Mob traps enabled Yes or No , Option 4 = Display amount of mobs in currently occupied room Yes or No" this way I would me able to increase the way I play Finally just a change I hate, the removal of ELFISH, was it OP? yes... was it fun? ABSOLUTELLY, am i bad at the game? yes, did it change THAT MUCH?? honestly it made the playthrough way more enjoyable. Rather than removing it and balancing the game without it keep it in and balance the content with it in mind. and for the compass in the vault... I just think that iskall got mad that people didn't play as he does... that's why he removed the waypoints from the vaults... it made the game just not enjoyable to run vaults and the waypoints didn't hurt anyone... as I say give players the option to adjust it making it more player friendly Best thing is the fact that we have option that allows is to keep our stuff when we die, i am bad at this game but imagine playing PAT OF EXILE, u use map and if you die you loose your items... I'm so glad we HAVE A CHOICE TO PLAY WITH THIS ON OR FOR THE HANDSOME CHADS TO PLAY WITHOUT IT. I am curious what do you thing of it Hellfire, what you LIKE and DISLIKE about VH? what would you keep from VHv16 or whaout would you like to see Removed from VHv18? Thant you for reading, have a nice day and you are great!!!
@Hellfirem4ge
@Hellfirem4ge Год назад
So I'm basically looking at 1.18 as a completely different game. It's the only way to do it really. They made multiplayer a lot better and more accessible but I think single player suffers because of it. Honestly, things are changing so fast at the minute that I'm kinda just letting things change and dealing with them as they hit because otherwise you get yourself worked up and then it changes a week later anyway. We'll see where the pack goes. I'm looking forward to the range update and more themes and omega rooms. That's the least fun part for me because most of the rooms look and feel the same but I guess we will find out what the plan is at some point 🙂
@cy8erdem0ngaming71
@cy8erdem0ngaming71 Год назад
Going to get botany pots and drawers now
@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868
I went pouches, SSN, vault compass, and then yesterday cagerium. I'm very excited to unlock modular routers because it's just so cool but I think I'm gonna go double pouches first because my loot management is pretty mediocre even with like 3 single pouches, plus I really want the refill upgrade and bigger stack upgrade. I'm a bit torn for my first big mod, though, because create is more fun and doesnt require power, but it doesnt generate things on its own as well as thermal. I think I'm gonna go create because the fan blowing can generate a lot of blocks and I like making contraptions with it, but things like the igneous extruder would be a game changer, not to mention unlocking thermal would allow me to unlock the phytogenic insulator which I am going to NEED. I watch iskall's vods so I kinda got the tips from there, but I'm also on singleplayer sky vaults so I was able to bypass much need for waystones. Maybe eventually I'll get waystones to cut out the like 30 seconds of travelling to my nether fortress, but my base is definitely gonna be mostly traversed using elevators when I get it hooked up, not waystones so that's like bottom priority
@Hellfirem4ge
@Hellfirem4ge Год назад
I genuinely would go either botania or create. Mekanism is good but needs a lot of power. I don't think I'd want thermal as a first big mod though
@HeyItsJudas
@HeyItsJudas Год назад
i went pouches Simple storage and drawers i had no idea what botany pots did so thanks for that! do you have a quick rundown of all mods or is that something in the works?
@Hellfirem4ge
@Hellfirem4ge Год назад
It's something I have planned but it's a lot of work because I need to understand every mod before I can go over it ☺️ Definitely on the to-do list though
@BWA_O
@BWA_O Год назад
I got dark utilities first as it is very inexpensive to craft early items with vector plates being semi cheap but all the other plates are cheap except player damage plate. But non lethal damage plate with a zombie spawners farm is super fast and easy even if they are at y lvl -45. But my favorite is weakness plate and made a super easy zombie doctor farm and now eff 5, unbreak 3, mending all for 1 emerald, also 8 stick fletcher has 1 feather per emerald and a chicken pen OP. I'm also planning going into ispawners do to dark utilities being able to work amazing with it, very fast exp and item farms.... ispawners is really gated by vault lvl though, by my best case scenario on math is you kinda want to be running lvl 20+ vaults in order to get the carbon, opals, and also mystery eggs.
@Hellfirem4ge
@Hellfirem4ge Год назад
Dark utilities is a great mod. I had it last season and built a crazy pen with it. I think this season it is slightly less powerful because of things like animal pens and cagerium but still a great choice
@BWA_O
@BWA_O Год назад
@@Hellfirem4ge yes the pens in my opinion are extremely op, but super helpful to sever tick rate. And yes cagirum is that surefire way to get drops passively. But the newer recipe change does hender that when your bad at pve lol. I was running max mana shield, at vault lvl 15 before update5 but now I had to spec a bunch into heal and ghost walk just to loot more efficiently. However the cheaty beginners grace accidentally being added back on tell lvl 20 was nice for trying to figure out the full skill set swap.
@trollar8810
@trollar8810 Год назад
I had no idea that modular routers was so neat, it's definitely gonna be the next mod i get
@Hellfirem4ge
@Hellfirem4ge Год назад
THEY'RE SO COOL!!! Honestly, you can just do crazy things with them 😃
@renehjvang2272
@renehjvang2272 Год назад
i would sugest simple storage as first. as that makes it alot easyer to keep track of your items. . also via simple storage . you can put a import pipe up. and just place the Pouch /shulker on top of that. and it sucks it into the storage. can even add filters in that one. so it wont take out puzzle blocks. after simple storage pouches. for faster looting. but do need a magnet for it to be sucked into the pouch. unless you drop it directly at your feat. wich it wont do if you just breack chests or Q items out. they land often close to chest and not at your feet for pouch to suckificate it in :) But yes . Third defo botany pots. super simple . can also give you Grimson and warped wood. to make more chests for the simple storage. ! but els. okay vid ! hehe
@Hellfirem4ge
@Hellfirem4ge Год назад
Yeah tbh it wasn't an actual "take them in this order" but more a "these are good ones to take as your first ones" ☺️ good summary though!
@SethDrebitko
@SethDrebitko Год назад
Great video. Really interested to know if this list would change at all in a sky vault world
@Hellfirem4ge
@Hellfirem4ge Год назад
Hmmm interesting, I still think all of these would be great but maybe botany pots would be my #1 pick ☺️
@Mortamour64
@Mortamour64 Год назад
@@Hellfirem4ge Love your content.
@Hellfirem4ge
@Hellfirem4ge Год назад
@@Mortamour64 thank you ☺️
@kingmarrk6700
@kingmarrk6700 Год назад
thx :)
@Gaural
@Gaural Год назад
First also great and very helpful video Edit : why didn't you offered drawers int the video even though you used them while showing botany pots. (maybe there was a particular reason?)
@Hellfirem4ge
@Hellfirem4ge Год назад
You could use chests for the botany pots, it was just an better visual for the video ☺️ honestly I could have done simple storage, drawers, colossal storage, pouches and double pouches but that would have been just storage mods and also a very boring video 😅
@Gaural
@Gaural Год назад
@@Hellfirem4ge Oh understandable.
@funnymaster468
@funnymaster468 Год назад
Every video I get better at this game
@Hellfirem4ge
@Hellfirem4ge Год назад
Same (hopefully) 😅
@gage5027
@gage5027 Год назад
Do flasks of regret work right now and are you ever going to make a video explaining the different resources.
@Hellfirem4ge
@Hellfirem4ge Год назад
Already did ☺️ and im not sure if they are currently working in patch 5. They were in patch 4
@kordellcurl7559
@kordellcurl7559 Год назад
And don’t forget that you can still do things vanilla (red stone)
@Hellfirem4ge
@Hellfirem4ge Год назад
Absolutely!!!
@Mister32
@Mister32 Год назад
Dumb question, but how do you drop items out of a chest without dragging them out of the chest? Is it a specific key you hold while clicking?
@Hellfirem4ge
@Hellfirem4ge Год назад
Ctrl +q to drop the stack ☺️
@Mister32
@Mister32 Год назад
@@Hellfirem4ge Thanks so much! Your VH vids have been invaluable since I started playing on a server. Looking forward to more of your videos.
@choco698
@choco698 Год назад
Thanks this came out right after I made the worst pick
@Hellfirem4ge
@Hellfirem4ge Год назад
Oh dear what did you choose??
@user-gt1qc2ht5z
@user-gt1qc2ht5z Год назад
@@Hellfirem4ge trash cans
@Hellfirem4ge
@Hellfirem4ge Год назад
The only true choice
@friezy
@friezy Год назад
I have a question? Lets say im playing this mod with a Friend should we all have to spend our knowledge points into the same research or only one has to do it for both of us to get the benefits for it? Like for example i put one in pouches and he spends his on other stuff?
@Hellfirem4ge
@Hellfirem4ge Год назад
So some mods you don't have to unlock to benefit from them (vault compass you only need to have 1 person craft it), but some like backpacks you need to have unlocked to get them to work. It really depends on the mod, but what I would recommend is making a research team because it will increase the cost of everything by 50%, but then you both unlock it so you're saving a lot of stars in the long run ☺️
@friezy
@friezy Год назад
@@Hellfirem4ge Omg thank you, also another question? Could we both be in a party and Team Research at the same time? Or not Because we want to go into vaults together and Split the research things like u kindly suggested
@Hellfirem4ge
@Hellfirem4ge Год назад
@@friezy yeah, they're two different systems so your research team won't affect party stuff at all ☺️
@Trauma284
@Trauma284 Год назад
hopper pots need chromatic steel now too 4/24/23
@monkey9515
@monkey9515 Год назад
can you make a guide about where do we find or get the stuff for the knowlege points
@Hellfirem4ge
@Hellfirem4ge Год назад
I already have that :) it's in my "what is the loot" guide
@monkey9515
@monkey9515 Год назад
@@Hellfirem4ge thanks but its to late i got kick off the server ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@Hellfirem4ge
@Hellfirem4ge Год назад
Oh, that's a weird one
@Hennepenne
@Hennepenne Год назад
why use a compas? i only make a torch on the exit so i found it anyway
@Hellfirem4ge
@Hellfirem4ge Год назад
The compass becomes much easier to use at later levels and allows you to go back on yourself without issues. It's not needed but it's super useful
@fields1120
@fields1120 Год назад
So in the skyblock how do you get any modded resource need zinc for create
@Hellfirem4ge
@Hellfirem4ge Год назад
I checked with my skyblock players and the basic answer is... You can't 😔
@fields1120
@fields1120 Год назад
@@Hellfirem4ge thanks anyway now i know
@jophmac
@jophmac Год назад
There's now a version of the chromatic iron cave with only modded ores in raw vaults.
@gage5027
@gage5027 Год назад
What level vault do bosses and scavengers start appearing?
@Hellfirem4ge
@Hellfirem4ge Год назад
Level 0 I believe (might be level 5). I know we've had multiple scav ones below level 10
@gamerarmy936
@gamerarmy936 Год назад
Bro, your tutorial home is going to be a full mega base before the season is ip
@Hellfirem4ge
@Hellfirem4ge Год назад
Just wait until it's time for the create guide! Things are going to get wild!! 😃
@gamerarmy936
@gamerarmy936 Год назад
@@Hellfirem4ge you should do a full tour of the tutorial home at the end of the season
@friezy
@friezy Год назад
Hey i would like to thank you for ur help the other day❤️ But could you answer a question for me :( If my friend and I were in a party and team research together And we opened a vault What is the penalty if one of us dies? Does the other die as well ? Could he come back inside the vault while im inside Because idk I told him that if he died i die aswell but that might have been a lie What do you think?
@Hellfirem4ge
@Hellfirem4ge Год назад
So the only thing the research group affects is the research cost. Nothing else gets affected. If you run a crystal with afterlife or beginners grace and you die, everyone dies but you keep your stuff. Otherwise if one of you dies, then you can go and "rescue" the other person's ghost and use a spirit extractor to get their stuff back. (If you both die, you've both lost your stuff)
@koltonmyers2328
@koltonmyers2328 Год назад
Rest in Peace botany pots, you will be missed
@Hellfirem4ge
@Hellfirem4ge Год назад
It is a sad day 😭
@GompMC
@GompMC Год назад
Mekanism is so expensive with Larimare, I hope they re-balance it.
@Hellfirem4ge
@Hellfirem4ge Год назад
Yeah it's pretty rough although I think most of the big mods are larimar intensive. They've made larimar the basis of most modded recipes now
@GompMC
@GompMC Год назад
@@Hellfirem4ge True, but have you tried making a Infused alloy? Lol. Everything takes at least 2 😁. I’m so Larimar poor now I can’t do anything else. Hahahaha 32 larimar for infused alloy 😁
@Hellfirem4ge
@Hellfirem4ge Год назад
Yeah it's absolutely brutal. I think that's why so many people are going create this season ☺️
@GompMC
@GompMC Год назад
@@Hellfirem4ge This is my 1st time playing VH, sooo I’m learning 😁, mostly from you so thank you very much for all the videos and teaching.
@Hellfirem4ge
@Hellfirem4ge Год назад
@@GompMC No problem! Glad I can help ☺️
@GravityFFF
@GravityFFF Год назад
I think Botania is more profitable than Create
@Hellfirem4ge
@Hellfirem4ge Год назад
I think it really depends how deep you want to dive into botania. Create is definitely simpler and you get trains so....
@Constantinople12
@Constantinople12 Год назад
My boy draws
@Hellfirem4ge
@Hellfirem4ge Год назад
Drawers are also great
@RedLifeMC
@RedLifeMC Год назад
i haven't watched the video yet (i will later) but u are wrong first: ssn (i love ssn) second: Create i am right, trust. This doesn't only apply to complete psychos that love kinematics nah...
@Hellfirem4ge
@Hellfirem4ge Год назад
How do you know that wasn't the order I went for? 😉
@Constantinople12
@Constantinople12 Год назад
1 hour to busy baking
@Hellfirem4ge
@Hellfirem4ge Год назад
Did you make me any?
@Constantinople12
@Constantinople12 Год назад
@@Hellfirem4ge I guess I'll have to join the discord and give you some
@jackthomas1066
@jackthomas1066 Год назад
This modpack is so cool, and I can't stop watching vids about this.... but the pack is SO. FREAKING. GRINDY. That I just couldn't complete it myself.
@Hellfirem4ge
@Hellfirem4ge Год назад
Oh yeah it absolutely is 😂
@WoodlandDrake
@WoodlandDrake Год назад
Research is one of the most controversial parts of this version of VH imo; pouches are the only thing that are good for vaulting, and the rest is just a convenience for storage, farming, lag reduction. They reduce the functionality of so many of these mods that the utility is negligible for most of them.
@Hellfirem4ge
@Hellfirem4ge Год назад
To be honest, every single mod can be classed as "convenience" because there's nothing you can't do with vanilla stuff really, it just takes a lot longer
@WoodlandDrake
@WoodlandDrake Год назад
@@Hellfirem4ge yeah, very true. My favorite part of earlier versions was working toward modded equipment to help me in the vaults, but now its all done with the "the_vault" mod and the other stuff is just cost v convenience. I'll just sum up and say 1.18 VH hasn't exactly impressed me overallso far; I know they are going for something different and I can respect that. But there is something about the knowledge system that feels a bit off and in need of tweaking.
@Hellfirem4ge
@Hellfirem4ge Год назад
@@WoodlandDrake I get that. It definitely feels very different but we shall see what happens ☺️ I'm honestly just waiting for the ranged weapons update. I'm super hyped for that
@WoodlandDrake
@WoodlandDrake Год назад
@@Hellfirem4ge yeah, I am definitely looking forward to them adding options to how to play instead of taking them away. Losing splash potions really hurt my soul.
@RJL45
@RJL45 Год назад
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