Where Was Destiny Going? The Sudden END of Stargate Universe (Dial the Gate) 

yeah MGM are stupid to have cancelled it and given up of stargate as a whole but what can you do?

I agree. I just finished all the sgu episodes. When it was on TV, I was working afternoons and didn't see many. Great show. I watched all SG1, Atlantis, now sgu.

@@robertgadany4849 Would be amazing if Amazon could pick it up. Love arc episodes concept.

@@nightcrow1452 yeah what the hell was that all about anyways cause it made them look like dumb asses oniel didn't do that in sg1 he figured it out on his own with sam and jackson why cause that's what they had to do

I just pretend they never made it to the next galaxy because the fat boy screwed up, and they're still drifting for thousands of years.

I agree. It was the first Stargate series I watched even and led me to watch all of the others. I didn’t dislike the others, however, I much preferred SGU.

If the beginning had been different it could have been a huge show like Battlestar Galactica, the beginning threw a lot of people off, myself included. It's among my favorite shows now but when it came out, before certain characters were fleshed out I didn't like most of them. By the time it finished they were all awesome.

Me tooo.

stargate is awesome, please come back in some shape or form

Same. There's been an empty void in my life in terms of watching my favourite shows. The only show that kinda filled that void for me partially was Dark Matter, which had that familiarity to it, same producers, writers, Tapping directing/producing etc but then that got cancelled.

Similar. When the show premiered I was almost hate watching Season 1, just too dark and too much drama, but Season 2 turned things around so well that I was actually bummed it got cancelled.

I hated the pilot, but I continued watching because I'm a loyal SG fan boy. By the end of season 2, I was legitimately sad to see it go. I still don't think of it as "Stargate," rather as a show that stood on its own. I think it's a good thing that familiar face cameos were kept to a minimum.

I love the change of style for SGU and in some ways it is the best Stargate series. I hated to see it just get dropped like that. It deserved an ending and I think a proper ending would have solidified it as a great SGU series.

Gotta agree. SGU sucked pretty hard early on (why were so many of the people so stupid so often?) but it did get better. Even so, the ending without any follow up gave implications of what happened to the ship and crew. Somewhere in the vast, they're still out there.

@@andrewd7112 I keep hearing they’re doing an new SG1 series now that Amazon owns the franchise (or is purchasing the franchise). I kind of hope maybe they’ll throw us all a bone as to what happened to the SGU people. To me SGU seemed like it was just trying to hard to be the Stargate version of Battlestar Galactica.

@@TheHartonGroup Atlantis landed on earth cloaked, i'm not really sure how you can continue the series. It's gotta be a reboot, unless they just ignore the whole Atlantis magic transport across to another galaxy in a second.

Yeaa Capirca hawe soo BIG potencyal

totally agree about SGU. Caprica, on the other hand in my (controversial ) opinion was a a fake spin off from the start... it was a completely different sci fi show that was pretending to be be related to BSG and failed, so they started leaning into the BSG connections to try and save the show. The problem was that to me no one ever had any genuine interest in Caprica as a connected show. It was dressed up to be related to BSG just to get it made.

I've never saw it that way interesting 🤔

it would have been declared lazy but i would have been satisfied with that

Glad I'm not the only one with that idea.

This is the ending I feared. "Disappointing" doesn't even begin to describe it. To each their own, I guess.

Why then would Destiny not recognize it's own signal?

To be fair SG1 did that in spades. While solutions where based in the reality of the show rather than macguffins (except basically anything Ori related), any and all big bads have been retconned in some form. Ra was originally the last of his kind Asgard looking alien (than again I'd say roughly 70% of the movie had been retconned by the start of SG1), than Apothis was supposed to be the second in command to Ra controlling his fleet, and nearly all after that, with the exception of the NID, where basically all introduced as "but wait the guy we're fighting isn't really the big evil overlord, this new guy is". Which became even worse as the show went on with Anubis and the Ori being extreme cases of it.

@@relo999 I'm not saying macguffins didn't exist, but they didn't just introduce them in lieu of pre-existing things. But what you are talking about regarding retcons is a different thing. But even there, aside from the retcons to the movie, they didn't retcon too much. Learning that there is another bigger bad out there isn't undoing what was previously stated, it's just showing what was previously assumed by characters with limited information was false. Now did the writers always know the characters were making false assumptions? Probably not. They may well have intended that to actually be the case then revised it. But that revision didn't typically make anything else that was said wrong. And that's what I mean. They mostly covered their bases and realized when they did stuff that they'd need excuses to explain why they didn't just do X or why they didn't know this before.

I never stop lol

Im rewatching all 3 series every 2-3 years 😂 takes like 2-3 weeks of binge watching but even though i know all of the episodes i still enjoy watching them

Great idea, would be awesome to see

That wouldn't work because it's already established that the ancients are from the same galaxy as the Ori. They share the same homeworld.

Interesting...

Apparently that’s partially what they were going for - they were going to be the original Ancients or something. Apparently there’s an interview with Robert Carlyle with him saying something along those lines

So…Battlestar Galactica?

they sit at some dark shady board and sell shows to shareholders and investors like the old slavetrade public auction , this hre wont do any good any more the men wants a new shiny one type

Honestly, I think Rush finding the deck should have happened in season one. Personally, I would have combined seasons 1 and 2 into the first season, cut out episodes that were unnecessary and kept the plot at a good pace.

was rooting for Rush to get spaced

Funny thing about that. There is a comic book series called "Back to Destiny' that takes place after the last episode that has him do that to collect the energy around the ship in FTL to add that little bit of extra energy.

Those things aren't solar panels. When Destiny flies through a star, it's collecting hydrogen - fuel for a fusion reactor. At FTL, the shield prevent _anything and everything_ from reaching the ship. (a spec of dust at those speeds would destroy the ship. there was never any technobabel about how it does this, but it's flying through normal space, not hyperspace.)

yeah, it was just getting good cause the actors were getting into their groove and then boom its over shame bringing it back now it would be crappy again cause the time that has past ruined that groove now the old actors new ones would be starting out from scratch again

Not the first time SciFi channel murdered a good show before it had a chance to finish telling its story.

Jesus... Dude... That would be mind-blowing

Watching SG1 again, AGAIN for the 4th binge through. The wife finally is paying attention and now says she loves it. As I look at the series it had many chances to add new and or younger actors to it. Many chances for more spin-offs, but didn’t. Now sadly, (physically shaking my head) they may have blown their chance to bring back Stargate. Time will tell and I have no confidence any Stargate will come back, good or bad.

It was the only one I found watchable.

Are yall dumb? SG1 and Atlantis weren't boring, FARRR from.

@@XHobbiesPrime That is unfortunate, I thought they all had good and bad points, but overall the series of each were watchable.

@@ronson53 SG-1 and Atlantis just weren't for me.

But never Rush.

@@sarasorensen2650 My first thought aswell xD

@@sarasorensen2650 Eli not suppose waking anyone but going to sleep himself or doing suicide.

@@sarasorensen2650 c'mon he was an believable character...

NBC did the same thing to the Revolution series, and then a few years later they decide to complete the series via comic book, which was just junk.

there was a conclusion in the comic book, Eli solved the power issue by using the ships momentum to make more power (like a dynamo) he also wondered why the ship only had a few status pods when the ship was designed to carry thousands of ancients, Eli managed to find more rooms with status pods but those's ones were already filled with sleeping ancients who he was able to wake up, the ancients questioned Eli but then ignored him and started repairs to the ship, they were planning to dump the earth crew out on the first habitable planet, Eli woke the captain to warn him - sorry that all I know as the comic ended there and I didn't buy the next episode

I agree to disagree lol sga felt very like an real end the same way sg1 did they went through the gate at the end but it was a closed scenery overall

Imho, sga ended appropriately with that 8 book series.

Them landing on Earth is the real ending for me. The team completed their mission, brought Atlantis and all her technology home. Earth can now learn from the ancient databases. An prepare to take the fight to Wraith on our own terms as and when we choose without always thinking about protecting Atlantis.

@@DavidKnowles0 Same, their is no way they would allow Atlantis to leave earth, its would most likely be the point where they would announce the stargate to the public, that would be a nice mini series.

If you are referring to the 1994 Stargate movie with James Spader and Kurt Russell, that film is what started the Stargate universe and led to SG1, SGA, & SGU being made.

@@thoroswyrmsbane6677 I think he is referring to "ark of truth" etc.

@@jscrub6232 oh, right I forgot about that one. And continuum. Been a while so my memory was fuzzy on the movies.

And obviously kill any characters you can't recast easily

He would figure out how to retrieve Ginn from quarentine in the computer.

the problem with this idea: the ship was running low on energy, that is why they had to go into the pods, so they could preserve enough power to actually get to another sun to recharge. if Eli didn't fix the cryosleep chamber, he must have come up with some energysource that could power the ship enough to keep the life support online and find a way to have enough water and food, in only 2 weeks...

@@Tzkaar Considering that life or death problems were solved in a day or two on a regular basis by Eli, two weeks is more than enough time.

​@@macrumpton true, but even Eli can't make something from nothing. their resources were very limited. like water, food, spare parts for repairs and the most important energy. the main things that the crew and ship needed to keep going. and i'm pretty sure our favorite two bigbrains would have come up with something, if there was another posibility... besides hanging out in cryopods for a while and the hope the AI-drones don't follow them and block the next sun.

A structure? I only recall the whole signal hidden in the cosmic background radiation thing.

​@@Mate397 it was collectiong bits and pieces thru the universe of the code they found in the background radiation of the universe

@@Mate397 I haven't seen it since it originally aired, so I only have a base recollection, but I thought in the last episode or two they mentioned how there was some sort of structure of some kind in what appeared to be the center of the Universe, and Destiney was headed straight for it.

@@MrRabiddogg there was a structure to the background noise in the cosmic radiation. Not a physical structure, but the way Morse code is a structure in noise

Not a structure to me it seemed like the beginning of life as we know it or even God if you will but definitely no structure

And for the actors that can't/won't come back just say that some of the pods failed snd they died

Same. We never saw the results of scavenging the parts in twin Destinys. I wanted the aliens who restore the shuttle to brand new to do the same to destiny. Would have looked amazing when it was and the crew would have full access to the whole ship. We'd get to see un-used rooms and equipment and who knows. If they did come across another ship it may have a shuttle as Destiny had three docking bays.

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LOL that show was a massive soap opera not a sci fi show!

@@larryw5429 Honey, all the best sci-fi shows are like soap operas. Deep Space Nine, the reimagined Battlestar Galactica, the Expanse, Babylon 5. That's because they take the good part of soap operas (character-driven storytelling) and tell compelling stories with those characters that often span many episodes, forming a complex narrative. Shows like Star Trek The Next Generation, Voyager and Stargate SG-1/Atlantis are popcorn TV. They're simpler, focused on single episode stories with the holy Magic Reset Button. They're easier to watch, require less investment from the audience and are typically less complex. That's why they're also usually more popular with the general public.

I personally didn't like all the people related plots, but as a Sci-Fi Fan I totally loved the Idea of a realistic 'go to where no one has gone before' like STNG in our Timeline. The new strange aliens, the idea that this ship just was designed to go as far at it can and then the other ships who build and set Stargates just for connection and supply. Such a genius idea and they ended it like this... so sad

I was so angry when it was cancelled. It was the very best of sci-fiction on television for the time. Right up there with BSG. Cancelled because it didnt feature aliena shooting and beating each other up, and a large chested female lead for the cringe nerds to ogle.

@@larryw5429 if by soap opera, you mean "character arcs," then sure...

Rush got fat. So the machine malfunctioned and fed one more than the other 😂

@@giovannebeistline2575 There are ways to make that work lol. Being they fixed the stasis chambers who knows what could of gone wrong.

They were brilliant with the stasis pods, this way if it they somehow restart the show any actor that can’t come back can just be written off as dead in the pods. Somehow earth manages to dial into destiny again and bam, new characters.

@@giovannebeistline2575 They can explain it that Eli couldn't fix the machine, but he figure out how to stretch the power systems for life support for years. So he and Rush and co constantly switch in and out of statist.

@@manu144x Yup, I agree. The cast getting older wouldn't be a problem either - the pods simply wouldn't suspend time for them, they'd merely put them to sleep and feed them. Goes with the gritty nature of SGU. The cast would have to deal with getting older and completely wasting a couple of years of their life in the pods, despite different expectations. Or even worse, their bodies were suspended, but aged and minds didn't even sleep. Trapped in their own bodies for a couple of years, making some of them go crazy. A way to write off a character whose actor wouldn't want to or couldn't return, but still could film an episode or two. The pods are indeed a great plot device.

They most likely just haven't found the ZPM room, yet I could see that. I absolutely love your idea.

I like the idea, maybe except the "yet another, even more dangerous enemy". I can see that it would probably be a must for the show, but it's been done to death as much as Yu's name. We've already seen threats to the entire galaxy, if not the whole universe. I would prefer something original, a strange, unexpected motivation for the enemy, maybe the enemy not being enemy for a while, or perhaps a different level of threat entirely (something more subtle, in the sense of the Borg in Next Generation - largely unknown, completely alien and non-traditional, a looming threat that isn't imminent per se, but could very well be). Very difficult to come up with something even as a fan, there are MANY shows and stories, conjuring up something original is a tough challenge.

I also liked the evolution of technology. Unlike most sci-fi series, where tech stays stagnant, you actually see Earth get a big jump in tech level as the series goes on, and there's episodes where they get each piece of technology, so everything has a history. The constant references to early episodes really make it feel like a continuous story, even though it's in episodic format. It always made no sense to me in Star Trek how they encounter so many alien races with all this crazy tech and capabilities, yet there's never any advances because of it.

@@taragnor w.r.t. Trek, which races and technologies are you talking about? In TNG/DS9, pretty much everyone uses the same tech. The Borg have a version of transwarp that the federation "understands" but can't build. (Voyager has to steal TW coils from borg ships.) Voyager is the only series that's regularly encountering new races, and from time to time, they do incorporate bits of their tech. (it doesn't always turn out so well.)

@@jfbeam Pretty much all the races, obviously the Federation is the most showcased. Voyager was a bit better about showing them try to use alien tech, but in the other shows, they really don't seem to even try. I get sometimes they can get by saying "it's not compatible with Federation technology", but really, for a show about seeking out new life and civilizations, they don't seem to learn much from those other races. You see them encounter all manner of new alien technologies from the various races they run into. Some basic examples would be the Tholian Web (TOS), the Breen energy dampening weapon DS9, the Doomsday Machine(TOS), the Wadi "magical" games (DS9). When there is a new technology developed by the Federation, I really can't remember them ever saying something like "we based this off the technology from species X" or something to that effect. It doesn't really have a sense that they're gathering new technology like Stargate. Voyager is a bit better about this than the others, in that you can see the ship integrates some Borg tech thanks to 7 of 9. But really, why haven't the rest of the Federation broke down some Borg salvage and tried to figure out their technology better? The nanoprobes obviously seem to have a variety of useful applications as well as all the other technology they've got. Even the Borg who have supposedly assimilated hundreds (thousands?) of different sentient races have a relatively small array of technology they use, which seems odd for a race whose creed is "adding your technological and biological distinctiveness to our own."

That is one of my dreams as well. If they dont get it done I will fund it myself if I get rich.

the opposite for me I hated it form day one since it had yelling and personal conflicts that never ended and sex with female soldiers and they had silicon big boobs - which a soldier anywhere would not have , for me it was kiddified warmovie in space and the episodes were to short to the format - and many threads left unexplored and the stones... what raelly would have happened just about everyone on that ship would have had a earth scientist doing exploration of the ship enginers of every caliber -but i guess the script was like a Bill and Ben script made by William Marshal - every novel max150 pages and printed with big letter -no content really other than conflicts - I stil miss sgu

Thanks for the support, Jacob!

Sugar coated? How were they sugarcoated? Just curious.

@@heathb4319 SG1/Atlantis focused on single episodes. They followed a structured narrative, and there was rarely a major change except for season finales/premieres. The characters typically got along with limited to no conflict, and the stories were generally not challenging for an audience. Star Trek The Next Generation was quite similar. SGU was more bold. Characters died, there was conflict, challenging themes were presented, etc. It didn't always work, but they didn't sugarcoat things for their audience. In those other shows, you never really worried if a major character might really get hurt because you knew that they'd be back next episode. In SGU, anything could happen.

@@Cailus3542 ...Kawalski was a major character in the movie and the start of SG1..he died by having his head cut in half when tealc was forced to hold him. That is some grit for you. Oneill lost his "second son" when Ska-rah was taken. Daniel lost his wife. Those were just the first 2 episodes. Throughout the first season there were mistakes made and we got to see how they affected the characters. Some of them pretty gritty. SG1 had the responsibility of setting up everything you love about SGU. I think if you go back and re-watch SG1 and look for the loss and struggles you will see way more than you remember. There was loss and struggle throughout the entire series. In SGU when you have as many main characters as they had...of course you could lose one or two and keep the story going. In SG1 when you only have 4 well it makes it harder to lose one. But you can show loss that affects them and let us the audience see how they handle it. Even then..we still lost characters such as Carter's dad, doc frazier, kawalski, daniel for a whole season even though he came back it was well written on how and why but until that point and for a whole season we thought he was gone. Developing grit can happen in many ways... Peace

@@Cailus3542 ...Also i think the word DIRE instead of GRIT is a better word. In SG1...you had to worry about stepping through the gate with a chance of not coming back but you could always come home if unless something stopped it. SGA...started off with stepping through the longest wormhole ever created by humans with a great possibility of never being able to come home. SGU...was forced through a gate to somewhere unknown, once there you can go through a gate to a planet but if you miss your time mark and get left behind you are stuck there, even back on the ship(your place of safety or home) you still may die from a number of other things.

Absolutely the polar opposite of me. They made SGU with young angsty people in mind for the audience. Youngsters (or way-too-serious adults) who were into dark psychological drama. Those same viewers who found Rodney’s comic relief in SGA to be an insult to the sci-fi genre (while we laughed our a$$es off at it). They wanted that young demographic for the ratings. So they succeeded with you. But those of us who enjoyed the franchise from Day 1 - starting with seeing the movie in a real movie theatre? SGU left us behind. But that’s OK. We got almost 20 years of entertainment, it was your turn. Cheers.

What new series... there is nothing

@@blazer666del Have you died yet? No? Guess that makes you an immortal then, right? LOL

Eli did the only thing he could do to remove himself from those insufferable soap actors.

Uh, Eli didn't (or shouldn't have) die - he was going to fix the final pod in the 2 weeks he had then he'd get in it and LIVE. So as they said "maybe Eli" but I PROMISE you he wouldn't have left the show had there been a 3rd season.

It wasn't official from what I understand. Brad Wright was not involved.