Which Anchor? 

You buy this anchor and boat owner might give you a lifetime ride. You'll each be contributing half.

Yes I agree anchoring is as much about technique as equipment, I say pretty much that in the first line of the Anchoring 101 video. I also say in this video that Rocna’s aren’t short of holding power. The reset problem is a thing though, it’s rare so you would be very unlucky for it to happen to you. That doesn’t get over the inherent weakness with a roll bar anchor though, it’s just a fact documented by insurance companies and people it has happened to.

My personal view on anchors. Most of my cruising be done in fine weather coastal that is Now while I know one needs a good anchor set up to protect the vessel like in the case of a Lee shore when engines kaput, with increasing wind. I carried 3 anchors fisherman's,carnforth,and Bruce,one with a very long length of chain .and two with shorter, lengths. Found 90%of the time used the Bruce on a short chain the length of the boat with a rope around twice the length,this was more than adequate for shallow crowded Anchorages Up to about a force 4 or 5 Beaufort. And easy to haul by hand. But felt safe that there was also a good heavy anchor there with heavy chain ready to go if needed Over the years have lost 3 anchors at different times.one my own fault. Two were cut away fowled down one I grasped and got back fine weather It would break my heart to lose a four grand anchor and chain

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I don't think finance is an issue for this guy.

Think the anchor is expensive, try the cost of replacing the boat… We have one and it’s the best money I have spent as I sleep easy on anchor and we normally anchor in 80’ of water.

​@@atxsailor452 I don't have experience with that environment. Why would you deliberately anchor in more than 40ft?

Who are you kidding Baz, we all know you've only got that Mantis so we can have an episode where your dragging towards the shore at 3am and you have to dive down and remove the rock that's stuck in your roll bar and save the ship! No seriously of all the roll bar anchors I like the Mantus most as it's so bloody big (especially yours) you're very unlikely to get something jammed in there.

😂 Have you been hacking into our hard drive and spying on our upcoming episodes? 😀

Ha! no I just know you Aussies you're not happy unless there's been a near death experience, I reckon you guys breed the poisonous spiders and great white sharks on purpose just to make life more interesting!

60kg's! wow you're not going anywhere!

We have a 60kg on our 62' 28 ton sailboat which is the recommended size from Ultra for our our size and weight. It was a hard pill to swallow price wise but beats not being able to sleep at anchor!

Thanks Todd

It'd look good on the bow of the Amel James & your lovely washer will always keep it clean and shiny!

Hi Keith. Ultra anchors do indeed look good on HRs, but they are not standard. They are offered as optional extras on the models I've looked at. Perhaps that's what you meant; they're the standard option, if an anchor is included in the buyer's specification. You know, HR are a bit funny like this, with some of their options and with some of their standard inclusions. A teak deck is optional, but try to buy an HR without one! You'll hear multiple reasons why it won't work. And on the HR44, slab reefing is standard, but try to buy one with that. The first guy that did had all sorts of trouble, as HR were not geared up to deliver it. Funny. :-)

Frankly, any of the good Anchors are fine, and we'll up to the job once they are properly Set. and sometimes in the right place at the right time, they need to be able to fail, y breaking out sideways, as that really an Save the Boat, like happened when that First Tornado clobbered my boat, and the port side deck was going under, the Delta popped out sideways and the boat shot back upright. Believe it or not, but there is such a ting as being Overbuilt. Years ago, when we got hit in Britain by that Hurricane, the local guy with the house on top of an exposed hilltop, had been really huffed at how strong he had built,t his roof. however, when the Hurricane hit it, there was no area of the roof weak enough to reduce the pressure, no windows in it he could open even. and the Complete Roof lifted pff the wallpaper, flipped upside down, and landed in the front garden - thankfully nobody hurt, other than pride . So a Genuine to spec Lewmar Delta, tested in a pretty nasty Tornado Storm passed with flying Colours as far as I'm concerned. Talk about Confidence building that isn't misplaced. Still, ever forget, circumstances can arise that can defeat pretty much everything, and it pays to have a ba kup plan. Mine will be a Mantus 2 ready to assemble in a Locker, plus a suitably oversized inboard diesel, with a bloody good prop to get out of trouble with. Not really kidding, but I'm of the Top Fuel Dunny Car Dragster engine Philosophy when it comes to the power needed to exit stage left, With Style, but screw the elegance when you need to be Gone. There's people putting 10hp electric motors on 40 plus foot boats ffs ! what on Earth are these idiots Smoking ? Frankly, they are Influencing others to think that somehow this is an OK way to think ! What happens when shit gets really serious ? And it Will Get Really Serious at Sea, it is never IF, it is always WHEN. Anchors an be too secure, resulting in even Chains snapping. See examples when a bad storm hit the Scilly Isles off Cornwall UK, when the yacht Vagabond went in the rocks. One boat fired up its inboard diesel, and was able to exit stage left at a rate of knots. That wasn't 10hp of Diesel, or of Electric. Yet people seem to think I'm taking the piss when I tell them to forget pipsqueek electric motors, and make damned sure you don't have an undersized inboard diesel My next boat is 44ft, and It has either an 80hp or 85hp inboard Djesel as Standard. That'll do fine. There'll be a lots of grunt at low rpm Flexofold prop going on it as well. It'll hit the 8.27 knots Hull speed, with no problem, as Doing a Brave Sir Robin (Holy Brail , Monty Python) and Boldly Running Away, Frequently, is the only Plan B That Can Work. Being Stubborn, and hanging in there too long, and you end up like the Black Knight, getting your legs chopped off. There are very good Anchors out there, Pick one, and make it work, then have a Backup. Then make sure you have Very good chain. all I saw in Chandlers in the USA, was awful Chinese Crap made with poor steel, and the Galvanising was worse. I bought American Steel triple Galvanised made for the American Trucking industry, and it was drop dead gorgeous, and a fraction of the price of the Chinese Crap. A little more for regulated for use with a Windlass, but not much more. . So £3000+ anchor - how many of them end up on the end of rubbish Chain ? 🤔

PS. To me, a Real McCoy genuine Lewmar Delta (if you can find one ) is a Rocna Anchor without the Hoop ? Like with Every Anchor, make sure it is set and things should be good. I'll be backing my next one up with a Mantus 2 as they seem to set well in weed and Sea grass covered bottoms. If you have a ear for good steel that's been properly Hardened and Tempered, make it ring, and you can tell if it's a good one by the tone. Teulu Channel got a good one I knew as soon as I heard it ring, that Lewmar Delta has held in 50 plus knots now, no issues. 👍 Best Wishes and Fair Winds. Bob in Wales. ⛵️✨️✨️✨️

thwvulcan made by rockna seems very similar

If we ever sell Fair Isle and move ashore the Ultra is coming with us for exactly that purpose, thats why I'm never anchoring in rock... Don't want to scratch it!

@@svfairisle Who are you, Rodney Dangerfield?

@@ronschwolsky1626 My wife and I were happy for twenty years. Then we met.

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I miss her too:( but she's back on Sunday:)

A thoughtful and well reasoned response. In particular this "If I wasn't confident that my anchor would hold in any given situation then I'd either not anchor or I'd maintain a watch." Sadly far too many do not do this. Heck just watching their _Anchoring 101_ video with that one boat that had simply dropped their Delta anchor down and was sitting practically under the bow, and never backed down to set it, so Delta was just sitting on top of the surface is far too common. And you do have a pretty decent anchor to begin with in the Rocna. So for you and your actions, I can fully understand your reasoning. However in case others read this and think that can apply to everyone. Once again far too many do not stop and think that spending money to ensure they have decent holding, especially for cruisers that live on the boat all the time it is money well spent. Far less to spend good amount on anchor and save the cost of replacing whole boat in bad situation. Kinda like oh it is going to take $10k to replace the roof on my house, and not many can afford that so I will just let it go .... not. People will make an exception and find w/e way they can to make it a priority as soon as they can.

Lots in Turkey

Sig Sauer, what kind of boat do you have? I'm looking at a 20kg Rocna with 8mm chain for my 36-foot sloop, 6+ tons.

@@kevinfisher1345 I got talked into trying a Lewmar Dekta Oversized Anchor, by the Boatyard Owner where I had a lot of Work Done on my last Sailboat, after Purchasing it, and having ordered very high quality triple Galvanised Chain, as my Visitors Visa in the USA was running out, I was starting to Panic, and Peter said I can get a Delta shipped here overnight, you can have it tomorrow, and if you don't like it, come back once the Visa has reset, and I'll give you your money back, adding, we've never had a problem with them. Fair enough, I went with it, and tbh, was really surprised just how good a Genuine Lewmar Delta Anchor was. Problem - so many Counterfeits around, but Peter sources Genuine ones. I'll have to Sail up the East Coast to his Yard, unless the Boatbuilder has access to Genuine ones as well (tbh, pretty likely ), and I'll pick up an oversized Mantus 2 in Texas, as a backup Anchor anyway (actually Island Packet likely will be able to get one of those for me as well - disassembled, they are great to have in a Locker, not taking up much space. Best Wishes and Fair Winds. Bob in Wales. 👍⛵️✨️✨️✨️

There's no question the Rocna is a decent anchor and yes I think their new offering the Vulcan is even better, surprisingly hasn't generated the Rocna following, strange. Maybe Peter Smith is just too much of a salesman, who knows. I definitely think he pushed too hard on the 'independent' testing with sponsored magazines with the Rocna, people start to see through that. One of the things I like with Ultra is they positively encourage external testing. very rare..

@@svfairisle Well, the Ultra is now definitely high on my list to look at when it comes time for me :)

I think the general consensus is that Spade underestimate the sizes. I think they went quite strong on not having to rely on weight with modern anchors the way you did with older models as an advertising line, but somewhat overdid it! maybe to prove a point, who knows.

@@svfairisle Agreed! I think Steve needs to expand his testing and do side by side of weight to weight tests!

Too true! I was thinking of the cost of the anchor vs the cost of your boat as that is what is ultimately at stake. You would not put retreads on a Porsche!

You’re equipment is also essential but again, spending more money is not an alternative to proper technique and knowing what you’re doing. In the case of the life raft analogy, you’ll get a better, bigger, safer raft if you spend more, however imo with this anchor vs, say a galvanized rocna, (they make them without roll bars btw, look up Vulcan) the difference can’t be enough to justify the expenditure. One could quite literally buy four rocnas of the same weight.

I have no doubt the Rocna resets brilliantly 99.9% of the time, it's the 0.1 (probably less, who knows?) percent of the time when it might get something stuck in the roll bar and therefore not reset that worries me.

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Yes that’s why the snubber is so important.